Impressive and most useful insights by @notyouraveragejoe. Quite a scholar of triathlon tactics.

Joe really doesn't like kb

Lionel will not top 10 in Kona. He will bleed time to the front throughout the race - swim, bike and run… even T1 and T2 (his transitions are so slow).

Former D1 swimmer here. Sam Long could use some high level instruction to adjust his stroke and then to take the time to swim slower with a new stroke for a year and we will see real change. There appear to be a few very simple things he could adjust to be so much better. He doesn’t get the full extension of his stroke in either direction. His elbow starts down every pull creating a situation where his hand and forearm are pointed up effectively stepping on a brake. He doesn’t finish his stroke, he pulls out his hand at his waist instead of pushing it all the way through to his thigh. These are all very common triathlete issues. I really wish I could tell him how much I like him and want him to do better in the swim and how easy it could be with a few tweaks. Easy for me to say as a former sub-elite swimmer of course.

Pulling for KB, hope he is ready for heat and doesn’t cramp. Frankfurt had mild weather. Sam and Magnus going to partner on bike and put pressure on. Several longshots with nothing to lose could pull upset. Looks to be windy and hot, wonder who rides the wind the best?

Somebody stole your rear wheel.

What happened the sound for the interview with Joe?

It seems rather counterintuitive for two agents and/or sports managers to dismiss an entire upcoming generation of short course triathletes. Try Vasco Vilaca, Ricardo Batista, Tim Hellwig, Csonger Lehman, Dylan McCullough, Miguel Hidalgo,Lisa Tersch, Maria Tome, Fanny Salazai.

Big two weeks coming up. Looking forward to following the races, even more so now, given your review and predictions.

PTO with WT is better simply because I think the best thing for the sport would be if IM goes bust. Having a for-profit entity, whose actions clearly show that money is more important than athletes, basically having a monopoly on LD triathlon is a very sorry situation. Actually it's worse than a 'normal' monopoly as the IM brand is so powerful that nobody will go anywhere else, basically ever. PTO/WT buys the brand from the receivers/IM and then local races come back, competing with each other and licensing the IM name if they chose. PTO/WT runs the LD world for the benefit of the athletes, finally! One can but hope 🤞😅

Great show! Just FYI to apply for good for age for London you have to upload a picture of your passport so address doesn’t matter sadly.

How in the world did they leave Julie Derron off the Wild Card list for Lake Las Vegas? She was the most exciting racer in Ibiza came in 2nd even with a 1min Bike Penalty. Crazy😕

Enjoyed the show immensely on the drive to and from this morning’s Park Run. Impressive twenty minute swim distance. I watched all of the T100. Sam was in perfect control just cruising and Ashleigh Gentle was so good running through the top ten to fourth place.

Julie Derron is a dangerous competitor not only on the Run (almost 1 min faster than Gentle) but she was 6th fastest on the Bike at least on the Ibiza course. Lake Las Vegas should be a good battle.

Impressive placing by Ellie for the first half of the year. Listened to the end of the show on the drive to the Entrance. It gave me some additional motivation for this morning’s Park Run.

Ellie is a wonderful guest - Smart, Competitive, Well Spoken - True Pro. Good Championship discussion😎 Ironman can do SO much better @ Championship - Mechanics - NO WAY Annie was unsupported 200m from T1, Broadcast (so many issues - agree it's a Tri thing) & Finish line support - NO water, No support - thought Chelsea was going to pass out several times until her husband finally got to her - she was out on her feet.

Timestamps: 00:00 - Intro 08:25 - Women’s Ironman World Championships Chat 15:26 - Women’s Ironman World Championship Review with Ellie Salthouse 54:00 - Tim’s brief thoughts on Nice 1:01:52 - T100 Ibiza Preview

What was your marathon time? Did you meet your goal?

Honestly? It seems pretty clear (to me at least) that guys like Blu are kidding around when they are "trash talking"...and well, with some athletes (whether male or female) you can also tell pretty quickly that they are just a little too high on themselves (and their causes). I'm glad you asked...God bless, Megan

I'm flabbergasted anyone doubted me! In all seriousness I think that this race has shown that Women's IM racing has a serious lack of depth compared to women's short and middle distance fields. Nearly 20 minutes spreading out top 3 at the world champs is a huge margin. Shows just how class a performance that was from Laura

00:00 - Intro 07:25 - T100 France Announced 16:35 - IM Pro Series 2025 Announced 32:30 - Ironman World Championship Nice Preview 47:00 - Our Picks

Pretty hard to pick the order of the winners in Nice. Fully supportive of October Patreon contributions going to the London Marathon charity through James.

Re race time starting - good discussion . Love a late start to a race. My favourite and best Half Ironman was the Challenge Half Ironman at Forster NSW 2013. The race started at 12:30pm. Very civilised.

Good podcast. Yep, hard to believe that the supertri guys coming after Yee and Wilde could be possibly faster. However, when you think that Wilde is a 13.23 5k track and Yee similar, are the next generation really coming through, lower or breaking 13? They’d be in their national track team for the Olympics. So I think we are on the cusp now with these guys.

The Kristian B thing reminds me of Gwen a couple years ago…

I find it something different entirely to make "big swings" about something in your sport, like winning olympics and Kona, or maybe winning all 4 Tennis Grand Slams, to saying to win the greatest achievement at a completely different sport like the Tour de France. Maybe it was a PR gag, but then it was a bad one, because it was disrespectful to the cyclists. I'll give Kristian credit for his new announcement, because winning gold in the olympics is much harder than winning Kona, yet alone because the chance only presents only once every 4 years. And he has shown that he can train short distance and win long distance races at the same time. But all together, concerning long distance he has a long way to go to be among the best (if he wants to). There are several athletes, who won a handful long distances in 2-3 years, but there are very few, who won 10 races in 10 years. Yes, you can't compare those two things qualitative, each achivement is valid and valuable of its own, but the GOATs are people like Phelps, Bolt, Frodeno, Isinbayeva and Duplantis. If Blummenfelt wins another gold in LA he will be added to this list. But the hype around him in the tri scene is greater than his achievements, that's for sure.

What is up with all these swearwords? Thumbs down

Looking forward to the races for the rest of the year. Some good tips on how to lift the standard of commentary.

Hear you about the IM Pro series races, not much different for T100. When I am able to watch the IM (because the time zones line up) those infernally repeating ads are annoying. My biggest desire is to have better progress graphics. Frequently I have to join part way because I cannot rewind and watch from the start. T100 I rewind on KZbin. The progress graphics and current placing rarely seem to help me understand where things are at in the race. Many times it takes 30 or more minutes to figure out what is happening.

Think Yee and Wilde moved the bar on run and KB couldn’t get quite get there, especially given his muscle memory for slower IM pace probably detracted from his short end speed + age. Vincent Luis also lost a half gear too. Both remarkable athletes. Hope KB has a solid Kona.

Blummenfelt "smashed long course for a couple of years"? He won a Ironman with an irregular swim, another with no mentionable competitors except for Kienle and got 3rd on Hawaii. It's obviously a good performance, but WAY far from "smashed". His victory in Frankfurt was impressive, but he has many more to go until we can compare him with Kienle or Lange or al-Sultan or 20 other athletes of the past 20 years. Blummenfelt is a hype, due to his social media appearence with his trainer and his methods, nothing else. Until now. He has everything in his arsenal to become a great athlete (except for humility). If he won Paris, he would be history. But he didn't.

Tri suit from James Bale?? Sign me up! Also a local so think of the saving on postage🙌 New to the channel this year and great content guys. Keep it coming🤟

Talking about OD athletes going long distance. I’m picking Wilde to podium at Taupo. His Melbourne 70.3 in Nov 2023 was a solo 1.56 bike and 1.07 half backing off. I think some of these OD athletes are going to surprise the long distance picks for the WC.

Very sad to hear about Mike Brown. Knew him from all the years I spent in Penticton especially Ultraman Canada. RIP Mike.

No he cannot. The whole and only story is the bullishit theme That Anything is Possible. Its just the underdog thingy that gets everyone revved up.

Triathlon is boring as a spectator. Yet cycling fans plan months ahead where and how to position themselves on a mountain stage. Only to glimps the riders for seconds. The triathlon commentary remains very American in its nature. There is too much craziness and over the top comments and after 30 min theres still 7 hours to go. Triathlon is still stuck in this hero shit where as other sports have matured and moved past that. Maybe just take on good commentators and not neccesarily retired athletes.

Not sure the F bombs are required team.

He can!!! But won't,,,

I guess atm KB is favourite to win in Kona. Gustav will win, but maybe not this year. KB doesn't even need to be in ironman form, as we saw after Paris. KB can even throw up and win. With cramps he may end up 2nd.

I believe Lionel is on track to win the 2025 Ironman championship in Nice. The hills on the bike course will suit him well. He also said at the beginning of this year that this was a two year project. Go Lionel!

I guess it’s fine to use Lionel’s name as clickbait but Jezus inform yourselves at least: 1) run course wasn’t flat, it started with 10k trail up and down a steep hill and afterwards still had elevation 2) Lionel and Talbot confirmed he was not running at his max, and even did some “intervals” at the end of the run 3) Talbot was giving everyone on the course live splits so main players knew where they stood 4) Lionel AND Sam pushed career best watts (though Lionel technically equaled what he had done in Florida before). Doesn’t mean you’re not right on his Kona placing (seems realistic) but still

Another great listen while on my M7 ride today.

I wouldn’t say Yee is a far superior runner to Wilde as you said. Have a look at their best 5km times . Wilde did a 13.23 ligit race on the track in April this year, which is a few seconds faster than yee. It’s just that every race Wilde does the work and yee has a faster kick finish.

These dudes are on crack_ the video is headed can Lionel win Kona _ they race because on any given day any of these cats could pull off a race of a lifetime and or get sick and blow up. No one knows . He’s beaten just about all these athletes plenty of times . Go ahead and doubt him and I would love to watch these dudes next video.

Valid

Talbot was giving Lionel splits. Towards the end of the race I believe Lionel did a 3k effort. Talbot talked about it and I think Lionel mentioned this as well. I’m a Lionel fan boy but think/hope he will go top 10.

I love how people in the comments of all lionel related videos seem to think they have the answer to all of his issues. He’s more open and honest about his training than anyone else so we see his flaws more.

Been here emotionally. I've been doing triathlon for almost 20 years. My opinion is that you'll never compete for AG award or KQ if you don't draft. Athletes have been blatantly drafting for decades and there's no way to manage it in an IM race with thousands of participants. I'm a slower swimmer so I get to see how much drafting there is especially on flat courses. Even the pro's cheat as we saw in London and heard the complaints. If you're not willing to "cheat" and want a fair race you'll have to pick the course wisely. The more hills and technical course will offer the best outcomes. A flat course, well you're fucked if you get out of the water late and have an issue with drafting. The way the rules are written for AG are you can only get caught cheating twice and clubs/teams and those willing to risk penalties are going to do what it takes for that KQ or AG award.

nobody ever did im Canada then did well in Kona! its more time this year, but its a bad idea to do two ironmans that close together

LS in Kona, maybe top 10. I wonder to what extent his popularity deceives him into thinking he is 'on the right path', again. His inability to swim with the front pack will require him to push 330w the entire bike rather than the 3 1/2 hours in Penticton, after which he will run 10-15 minutes slower than the winners. And he still does not have his nutrition settled. I think that his addictive personality prevents him from relying on a coach and has him trying to figure everything out on his own with occasional successes reinforcing his behavior, again part of an addictive personality. Sadly, with proper direction, he would have been one of the top athletes at any race.