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@francisgrizzlysmit4715
@francisgrizzlysmit4715 2 сағат бұрын
disagree that Illuvitar would not have created with out Morgoths rebellion, your augments do not convince me
@JohnDoe-tt5qc
@JohnDoe-tt5qc 2 күн бұрын
The comment about the ring being switched to a new chain in Rivendell makes me wonder if some Elf servant of Elrond did that without realizing what the ring was only for Elrond and Gandalf to slap them silly upon learning they handled the One Ring. (Not likely but a funny image)
@RicoThingol
@RicoThingol 2 күн бұрын
John I’m currently reading Unfinished Tales (after many many Silmarillion readings), which book should I venture into next? Children of Hurin, Beren & L or The Fall of Gondolin?
@John-Sierra
@John-Sierra 2 күн бұрын
If you've read both The Silmarillion and Unfinished Tales, you've essentially read The Children of Húrin, but I still think it's worth reading the compiled version. The others are collections of various versions of the stories more than anything.
@JohnDoe-tt5qc
@JohnDoe-tt5qc 2 күн бұрын
What was up with the sapient birds (namely the Thrush and Raven) in the Hobbit? Were they a special breed, or vassals of Manwe like the Eagles, a more covert force maybe?
@John-Sierra
@John-Sierra 2 күн бұрын
Originally, The Hobbit stood on its own, with only cheeky little references to the Legendarium, but knowing what we know, Tolkien spoke of animals of a "higher order". The Old thrush and his ilk would fit that bill, and the art of speaking to animals, especially birds, comes up in Unfinished Tales as something but Saruman and Radagast can do, and it seems that either Bard can, or the Thrush can speak Westron.
@JohnDoe-tt5qc
@JohnDoe-tt5qc 2 күн бұрын
@ So they’re more akin to the capital A Animals of Narnia? That makes sense, thanks.
@brovold72
@brovold72 4 күн бұрын
Dáin *literally* stonewalled the Messenger of Mordor.
@joshcreveling9
@joshcreveling9 4 күн бұрын
Why did fingolfin fight morgoth if morgoth couldn't be killed?
@John-Sierra
@John-Sierra 4 күн бұрын
He could not be permanently killed - but he could be defeated - and eventually was by Eönwë. Fingolfin came pretty close, he messed Morgoth up pretty badly, but ran out of stamina. Fingolfin at this point just believed he had no other option.
@AK-ny5bz
@AK-ny5bz 4 күн бұрын
What gappened to Nazguls and their soul after rhe One Ring's destruction?
@John-Sierra
@John-Sierra 4 күн бұрын
They finally died - they were long past their expiration date, after all, so without the necromancy of the rings keeping them in the world, they immediately perished. Like all mortal men, they would go beyond the circles of the world. Beyond that, it's only conjecture, we know there is an afterlife for mortals, but we dont know if it's the same as the heaven/hell thing- though that seems likely coming from Tolkien. As to their final fate, Tolkien would refuse to comment, he would say that is between them and Ilúvatar.
@JamesWhite-yj7sd
@JamesWhite-yj7sd 4 күн бұрын
you need to get closer to the camera ???????????
@John-Sierra
@John-Sierra 4 күн бұрын
My brother in Arceus, I take up like 60% of the screen - how much closer do you want me to be?
@briandhaze5906
@briandhaze5906 4 күн бұрын
QUESTION: Could Caradhras have been sentient? Reading the chapter, it seems like the mountain was written as a hostile entity not willing to let the fellowship pass.
@John-Sierra
@John-Sierra 4 күн бұрын
That was Gimli's thought as to the origin of the storm. It's an open question, but I agree with Gimli - Caradhras was sentient and had an evil will - in other words mountains are alive and this one is a jerk. The fact that Legolas hears the voices of stones from Eregion makes this seem feasable.
@briandhaze5906
@briandhaze5906 4 күн бұрын
@ wow thanks for your reply! You actually brought up other details I forgot. Probably could have answered my own question.
@sotiriospeithis6659
@sotiriospeithis6659 20 сағат бұрын
​@@John-Sierraisn't Caradras part of a mountain range erected by Morgoth himself to stop the Elves from going from Cuivienen to Aman ? If so, it would make sense for it to be a grumpy lump of evil rocks hell bent on preventing people from crossing.
@FrederickMueller-p3o
@FrederickMueller-p3o 4 күн бұрын
Is the dragon in "Farmer Giles of Ham" one of Melkors dragons or of some other origin? Is Ham in Middle Eartyh or some other location?
@John-Sierra
@John-Sierra 4 күн бұрын
Farmer Giles of Ham is outside the Legendarium and therefore isn't in Middle-Earth in that sense, it takes place in an imaginary Dark Ages Britain (while Middle-Earth would be an imaginary pre-antiquity Europe/Africa/Asia). Chrysophylax Dives is also not really evil, making him unlike any of the dragons of Melkor.
@FrederickMueller-p3o
@FrederickMueller-p3o 4 күн бұрын
@@John-Sierra Thank you
@thedarkmasterthedarkmaster
@thedarkmasterthedarkmaster 5 күн бұрын
Good video, and yeah I feel bad for the ent wives though If I may speak on that Link of Wise guy's question as it's one I've also had in the past. I think he may have been more referring to the physical changes caused by the ring if they'd have their lives extended/become wraiths as opposed to whether they'd fall under Sauron's power. Or if becoming greedier is the only effect as it seems they may not have had the rings for as long as others, at least not before Dragons and Sauron got them
@John-Sierra
@John-Sierra 5 күн бұрын
You might argue that the dwarves had them much longer than men - who had to turn theirs in to Sauron once they were fully bound to him. Think of it this way, the last one was still held by Thrain until just shortly before the events of The Hobbit.
@thedarkmasterthedarkmaster
@thedarkmasterthedarkmaster 5 күн бұрын
@@John-Sierra I agree with you I just thought I might explain what that guy might have meant when he asked
@ruhalajn
@ruhalajn 6 күн бұрын
I love The Tolkien Reader and those other stories. The Smith of Wootton Major always felt so dark and full of secret meaning.
@francisgrizzlysmit4715
@francisgrizzlysmit4715 7 күн бұрын
yes there is no way you can argue that Fëanor did nothing wrong, I cannot believe anyone would claim that
@OWE31SWE
@OWE31SWE 8 күн бұрын
In Swedish "stor" (pronounced with an elongated o-sound) translated into "big" or "large". It can also mean to be an adult, as a child can say "when I become (stor) a grown up". Do you think this is connected to the name of the somewhat larger Hobbit size with same name?
@John-Sierra
@John-Sierra 8 күн бұрын
Swedish shares some roots with English, tolkien used the Old English "stor" which had the same meaning, tracing back to Old Norse. So while he wasn't specifically thinking of Swedish, he was using the same root.
@RicoThingol
@RicoThingol 9 күн бұрын
Wow I remember playing this when I was in like 7th grade Christmas break. Great memories. Christimas in Puerto Rico is amazing it lasts until mid January as we celebrate 3 Kings and then the San Sebastián festivities.
@benwilliams762
@benwilliams762 10 күн бұрын
Is there a reason you skipped from "Battlelore" to "Frodos mithril shirt" section?
@benwilliams762
@benwilliams762 9 күн бұрын
Also missed the very bottom item of the iceberg about the comics
@RicoThingol
@RicoThingol 11 күн бұрын
I have a question, does Glamdring glow pearly white?
@John-Sierra
@John-Sierra 8 күн бұрын
It would have glowed blue - as certain Gondolin weapons would in the presence of Orcs. The Hobbit is not very specific, stating that Glamdring glowed "in its own light" but also did use "blue flame" as an example, though it was "as bright as blue flame" not "blue, like a flame". The Lord of the Rings is more specific, but for Sting - but it's reasonable to say that both Glamdring and Orcrist would glow blue.
@Johnathanhubertmusic
@Johnathanhubertmusic 11 күн бұрын
16:00 Lemmywinks! lol I always wondered if they were actually parodying this but wasn’t completely sure until now via your confirmation 😅
@davidmarrazzo774
@davidmarrazzo774 11 күн бұрын
This is so good,great idea to re watch it.
@MrRaki72
@MrRaki72 11 күн бұрын
Excellent video!
@kegger98
@kegger98 11 күн бұрын
Gandalfs nose is interesting thing, because when Peter Jackson was making the Lord of the Rings they realized that all the hair he had and the hat made his nose look disproportionately small, so they actually gave him a prosthetic to even things out.
@briandhaze5906
@briandhaze5906 11 күн бұрын
YAY!!! Perfect thing to watch as I carve muh pumpkins! Well played, Sir!
@ZephyrOptional
@ZephyrOptional 12 күн бұрын
1084. 8 years old. This cartoon was my first introduction to Tolkien and have read everything I can find Tolkien wrote since. I believe the door to bag end faced South. The windows would be on the left, southwestern side of the hill. Per Tolkiens drawing, the door looks toward Hill Lane that runs north to the top of The Hill. Bag shot row, the lower road that the Gamgee’s live on bent around the hill and continued north to Overhill. That said, you would likely see the sunset from the windows farthest from the front door as you see them bend around the corner in Tolkien’s drawings & paintings.
@matthabir4837
@matthabir4837 12 күн бұрын
'The sun went down. Bag End seemed sad and gloomy and disheveled. Frodo wandered round the familiar rooms, and saw the light of the sunset fade on the walls...' Could be indirect sunlight, of course... but it always seemed to me that the door of Bag End faces South and that the Road runs before it East and West... If the front of the hole is somewhat curved, perhaps one could indeed glimpse the sunset out of the western windows...
@John-Sierra
@John-Sierra 8 күн бұрын
The door faces to the east. Though Tolkien never outright says this, we can deduce this from the fact that it is mentioned that the windows, all on the left side, face The Water. Now of course "left' is relative to which way you're standing, is Bilbo facing his door or his the door to his back? However when you give such directions, it's reasonable to assume that the windows being in all the left handed rooms are relative to entering the abode, and this "tour" of Bag End starts with the door. So therefore, if The Water is on the left, left is south - and the door faces outward to the East.
@brovold72
@brovold72 12 күн бұрын
Gandalf OF COURSE uses "magic" to "appear taller" -- very often. As does Aragorn, later. to a much lesser extent.
@oklibrarian
@oklibrarian 12 күн бұрын
Dating myself here, but this cartoon was my introduction to Tolkien, when I was 7 or 8 years old in the mid 80s. Not sure where I saw it (probably either in school or we rented it from the video store), but I immediately checked out and inhaled the book from the library. I tried to tackle the Lord of the Rings immediately after (I was an ambitious reader in those days) but I was a little young for it to hook me. Tried again in my 20s when the Peter Jackson films came out, with much better luck. :-)
@L4Z3RF4C3
@L4Z3RF4C3 12 күн бұрын
I too know what South Park episode referenced this. Poor lemmiwinks 😅
@RicoThingol
@RicoThingol 12 күн бұрын
Awesomeeee, I haven’t seen this one! Just the Ralph one with the dancing Balrog 😂
@sotiriospeithis6659
@sotiriospeithis6659 12 күн бұрын
I have a question. I have seen some people say that Gondor has a Mediterranean climate. Is that true ? I dont remember getting that impression.
@John-Sierra
@John-Sierra 12 күн бұрын
Tolkien doesn't mention Gondor's clime, but it absolutely would be mediterranean, as it sits on the sea and is analogous to Italy.
@RicoThingol
@RicoThingol 10 күн бұрын
@@John-SierraI do remember reading Rotk and some of the men of Mountains in Gondor are described as swarthy right?
@John-Sierra
@John-Sierra 8 күн бұрын
correct
@MrRaki72
@MrRaki72 12 күн бұрын
Algo comment
@ruhalajn
@ruhalajn 13 күн бұрын
Nathaniel is gift from God, too. Imagine how I felt when I saw "Neithan" in the Silmarillion as an angsty preteen.
@francisgrizzlysmit4715
@francisgrizzlysmit4715 13 күн бұрын
ummm first cousin means 1 remove; more means they are not first cousins at least in conventional English
@John-Sierra
@John-Sierra 12 күн бұрын
That is not true. "once removed" refers to a generational difference, there's a difference between a first cousin once removed and a second cousin.
@davidmarrazzo774
@davidmarrazzo774 14 күн бұрын
Who were the most prominent 5th business characters in Tolkiens work? This grand story has so many to choose from.
@davidmarrazzo774
@davidmarrazzo774 14 күн бұрын
An excellent Tolkien channel on KZbin? Hard to find,love it. Thank you John
@John-Sierra
@John-Sierra 2 күн бұрын
Thank you, I'm glad you enjoy it!
@davidmarrazzo774
@davidmarrazzo774 14 күн бұрын
How powerful did Carcharoth get after eating the Silmaril?
@John-Sierra
@John-Sierra 14 күн бұрын
It did not give him power, it just burned him from the inside, driving him insane and making him go on a rampage.
@davidmarrazzo774
@davidmarrazzo774 14 күн бұрын
Beren and Luthien is one of my favourite stories in the entire story. I’ve always wondered about Carcharoth and how he was affected by swallowing that Jem. I’ve always read it like he was untouchable during that period.
@davidmarrazzo774
@davidmarrazzo774 14 күн бұрын
@@John-Sierra Carcharoth with a Silmaril in his belly sounds like an epic Halloween story…
@davidmarrazzo774
@davidmarrazzo774 14 күн бұрын
Could the Istari stop Carcharoth with a Silmaril in his gut?
@harishodzic9886
@harishodzic9886 14 күн бұрын
Dunno if u r gonna see this comment but i discovered ur chanel few days ago and i m addicted. Please dont stop with content especially answering these questions
@John-Sierra
@John-Sierra 14 күн бұрын
Thank you! I'm glad you enjoy it.
@ruhalajn
@ruhalajn 14 күн бұрын
Awesome
@RicoThingol
@RicoThingol 14 күн бұрын
You’re 43 years old but your Puerto Rican and Italian genes make you look younger than the average American 😂
@John-Sierra
@John-Sierra 14 күн бұрын
If not for the bit of gray in my beard you'd never know
@kayjohnston1132
@kayjohnston1132 15 күн бұрын
I was read Lord of the Rings as a bedtime story when I was a wee bairn. The scary bits where they're getting in to Mordor certainly stuck in my impressionable brain!
@danieldeclue1466
@danieldeclue1466 16 күн бұрын
I'm not a Tolkien scholar by any means but I actually know a very good portion of it. Please sir can you tell me, what do you think of the personal headcanon that the dead marshes could have been created by the witch King massacring the Sylvan elves in the battle of the last alliance, explaining where the Nazgul were that day and why the marshes are even a thing
@John-Sierra
@John-Sierra 14 күн бұрын
The actual marsh already existed but what happened is that the marsh expanded and swallowed up a gravesite nearby.
@ruhalajn
@ruhalajn 16 күн бұрын
John, I'm sorry, but I can't figure out Quora... 3 questions: Had Elrond been too late to heal Frodo, what would the Wise have done with him after he turned? What would have become of the ring -bearing elves if Sauron gained control of them through the One Ring? Would he have been able to control Gandalf the White? Why do we never see any form of religion outside of the Men under Sauron and Morgoth's sway? I know the Powers took a hands off approach after the 1st Age, but surely the Elves would've told Men that they were given their strange gift and favored by Eru…they talk about it in the Silmarillion. Thanks.
@ruhalajn
@ruhalajn 16 күн бұрын
The sad part is I'm in my 30s...
@John-Sierra
@John-Sierra 14 күн бұрын
Nothing sad about that.
@John-Sierra
@John-Sierra 14 күн бұрын
If Frodo became a lesser wraith there would be no saving him, only containing him as a prisoner until he passed - if The One Ring was destroyed. It's possible that someone like Glorfindel or Bombadil may have been able to free his spirit, but he would still be dead. The bearers would just take off their rings, just like the elves did in the 2nd age. Tolkien did not want to show religion in The Lord of the Rings but we learn more of it in Unfinished Tales, particularly the worship of Ilúvatar and customs of the men of Númenor. The closest to organized prayer seen in The L.R. is Faramir's prayer. Tolkien did not want to be accused of religious allegory of the type that his friend C.S. Lewis wrote. So really it was just the author's preference.
@ruhalajn
@ruhalajn 14 күн бұрын
@@John-Sierra thanks!
@RicoThingol
@RicoThingol 17 күн бұрын
Lol lol the eye of Sauron question 😂
@guilhermefaleiros4892
@guilhermefaleiros4892 17 күн бұрын
Hello! I'm kinda new to this channel. Wanna ask some questions: since galadriel gave threads of her hair to Gimli, and considering that she refused to give them to fëanor, and that galadriel's hair absorbed much of the trees light, could Gimli make new jewels of similar value to the silmarils, once he arrived at the undying lands? Also, Gimli at the undying lands seems to be the first time Aulë makes contact with a Dwarf since he created them. Hou would that go? Also, would Gandalf (olórin) introduce Frodo and Sam to his master Nienna? What to you think about that? The heroes life at Valinor kinda fascinates me
@John-Sierra
@John-Sierra 14 күн бұрын
I think Gimli would have made his gems long before going West. The reason that Galadriel gave him the hairs was not just because she liked him more than Fëanor (and she did indeed like him a lot more than Fëanor, but she asked him what he would do with them - Fëanor jealously guarded the Silmarils but Gimli said he would proudly display them to be viewed and appreciated by people - he was all about sharing the light. They probably wound up in Moria once it was restored. I could only imagine that Aulë would be over the moon to meet GImli, but Gimli would only be interested in spending time with Galadriel - it was the whole reason he went there! I think Nienna, as well as all of the Valar, would be eagerly awaiting the ring bearers, they wouldn't need Olórin to make introductions. Keep in mind that Olórin did not have only one master, it was Nienna, Varda, Manwë and Irmo.
@guilhermefaleiros4892
@guilhermefaleiros4892 14 күн бұрын
@@John-Sierra I feel kinda bad for Aulë now I asked specificaly about Nienna because of the whole mercy thing, that Frodo spared smeagol and was rewarded (I even entretained the idea that it wasn't Eru that made sméagol trip, but her, but then remembered that Eru forbode the ainur to touch his children). Its such a central thing to the story and it derives from what she represents, I guess, like mercy, compassion etc
@davidkulmaczewski4911
@davidkulmaczewski4911 17 күн бұрын
Is Adunaic the basis for the Common Tongue? That was my understanding. If so, why didn't Tolkien Anglicize/translate Numenorean names like he did with the hobbits, i.e., refer to "King Goldman" instead of "Ar Pharazon"? If not, nevermind.
@John-Sierra
@John-Sierra 14 күн бұрын
Probably because it sounds terrible. Tolkien wanted things to sound a certain way. But keep in mind that in the case of The Hobbit and The Lord of the Rings he is "translating" from Westron, while The Silmarillion is translated first by Bilbo and then by Tolkien. The Hobbit names are really just to sell the idea that Hobbits had their own language and demonstrate Westron. To be honest, if he had done what you suggest, Adunaic would have been Old Norse, as Rohanese (an older Westron) is represented as Old English. So going even further back would lead us to Old Norse names.
@onatgz
@onatgz 17 күн бұрын
that intro is awesome. wish it didn't made me feel old though... =.)
@RicoThingol
@RicoThingol 18 күн бұрын
Really really enjoying the readings! I’m reading Unfinished Tales rn and I’m loving that story so much I can’t wait to read the Fall of Gondolin. Saludos 🇵🇷
@brovold72
@brovold72 18 күн бұрын
Subscribed @ 52:05 ✅
@sotiriospeithis6659
@sotiriospeithis6659 18 күн бұрын
One thing I always wondered (like many I guess) was what happened to Maglor? I love that character.
@John-Sierra
@John-Sierra 14 күн бұрын
Tolkien's letter 131 suggests that Maglor threw himself into the sea.
@wirogalos3377
@wirogalos3377 18 күн бұрын
I do have a couple of questions: -Does Tolkien describe the armour of the Numenoreans throughout their history besides the Karma helmet? -Is there any specific iconography like crests, banners and adornments for Arnor, and the rangers of the North, apart from those specifically used by Aragorn? -Are the darts used by the Witch king in the Pelenor fields, specifies somewhere of what type they were, such as a javelin, kestros, plumbata, or something else?
@John-Sierra
@John-Sierra 14 күн бұрын
The helmet is pretty much as far as it goes - outside of Unfinished Tales and The Fall of Númemor there isn't much out there other than a chapter in The Peoples of Middle-Earth about Tal-Elmar. Arnor was gone by Aragorn's time, if anything he would have used isildur's crest, but he chose the Elessar as his icon. When Tolkien says "darts" he usually means arrows, we see this commonly in The Hobbit but it did bleed into The L.R. a bit.
@wirogalos3377
@wirogalos3377 13 күн бұрын
@John-Sierra Thank you greatly, would it then be realistic to see the Numenorean armour evolution from a Greek style hoplite, to a Byzantine style Skutatos, to Western Europeans men-at-arms/knights? And then based on the information we do have, would it be more likely for the Witch king to have used a bow or a crossbow?