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@deffientllynotjalenbutler1736
@deffientllynotjalenbutler1736 2 ай бұрын
Still love it
@panopticon4
@panopticon4 2 ай бұрын
i think this is it. the best video essay that tore off the meat to get to the bones. disco elysium is about hope in the face of harsh reality. acid fuckin communsim
@mayday2502
@mayday2502 4 ай бұрын
HAAAAAAARD-COOOORE
@Dzeniskq
@Dzeniskq 4 ай бұрын
Great stuff, hope you're doing well
@Shane-A112
@Shane-A112 5 ай бұрын
I know this is an older video. I hope you're doing well comrade. we can never truly lose.
@RatProphetX3
@RatProphetX3 7 ай бұрын
disco elysium is probably my favourite game ever im so glad there are so many amazing people who make fan content for it, very excited to watch this video completely through but wanted to say a massive thank you for crediting artists from art you used <33333
@BigBadBalrog
@BigBadBalrog 9 ай бұрын
Incredible insights. My jaw literally dropped a few times.
@magpieMOB
@magpieMOB 9 ай бұрын
Not the longest essay I've watched on Disco Elysium, but beautifully curated points to demonstrate your statement. I think this has definitely helped augment my experience of the game (and of some of its conceptual contents), sincere thanks for that On a tangent, something that even essayists who comment on the musical references in the game don't seem to mention - the inclusion of a lot of Manic Street Preachers' lyrics and oblique references to their favourite literary and historical talking points. I would say that their music might be oversimplified as "wistful rock n roll leftists" - the game takes lines like "the future teaches you to be alone, the present to be afraid and cold" (from a song referencing the Spanish Civil War and fascism in Europe more generally (there's also the line "if I can shoot rabbits, then I can shoot fascists" - a slogan spread during the time and also in the song's lyrics), wordily named "If You Tolerate This (Then Your Children Will Be Next)"). Klaasje's title is lifted from "Miss Europa Disco Dancer", their song "Motorcycle Emptiness" is referenced in Kim's case files, and they've also quoted from R.S. Thomas' "No Truce With The Furies" in their lyrics and album liner notes. There's also a reference to "Door To The River" - both a title of a Willem de Kooning painting and then used as a song title (de Kooning is a favourite artist of theirs) - his art style actually feels possibly influential to the art style of the game itself, so this might just be a direct reference to him or it might be both.
@deffientllynotjalenbutler1736
@deffientllynotjalenbutler1736 9 ай бұрын
Yes yes yes another day another banger your grace way to go on that title too real high concept stuff
@luminousghosts
@luminousghosts 11 ай бұрын
That's such a good way to put it - my brain hasn't let go of Disco Elysium ever since I've played it. It settled in and nested somewhere in my head. Beautiful video, I cried (why - why does this game feel so profound, like a kind of impossible thing. Like some kind of irrational hope)
@ThatMans-anAnimal
@ThatMans-anAnimal 11 ай бұрын
Communism isn't empirically true, lmao. It's based in Hegel's idealism. It's proof is rational, not empirical. Measurehead's scientific racism has a decidedly better claim to empirical truth. No matter the technical issues you might have with it, at least it's an empirical claim.
@yeastmobile
@yeastmobile Жыл бұрын
It's been months since you released this video or reacted with a comment but I wanted to note something. In the book that the writer of disco Elysium wrote, the one that has only recently got translated from Estonian, it's noted that the Pale CAN be pushed by by a sufficiently fervent communist. Two men have a conversation in the Pale, one a nihilist, the other, a communist. In a moment of particularly strong hope and brief in their fellow human being, the pale around the communist gets pushed back, and the nihilist is able to notice this. There's a video elsewhere on KZbin that goes into the book and I would recommend it.
@MrJohnthegamerHD
@MrJohnthegamerHD Жыл бұрын
I gotta say, it's refreshing to hear someone approach the big theme of Communism in this game from a bit more of a neutral approach. Seems a lot of the videos made on Disco's political sphere tend to vehemently praise Communism. And I find it hard to get engaged with the "analysis" when the creator is shoving their bias into it. A great video. You deserve some more subs.
@yeastmobile
@yeastmobile Жыл бұрын
They don't seem to be engaging with the communism aspect any differently than the game or other communists do. This is how communists feel about communism the maker of this video didn't do anything special.
@hj-hv6rt
@hj-hv6rt Жыл бұрын
2 for 2 on making videos about some of my favorite games ever.
@Aconspiracyofravens1
@Aconspiracyofravens1 Жыл бұрын
Hey Vogon, I love your videos, will you ever make another one? I completely understand why you might not want to.
@vogontheater7952
@vogontheater7952 Жыл бұрын
Hey Mattias - short answer, yes! Longer answer: eventually, yes. I've been incredibly busy with a lot of other stuff going on in my life which has meant I haven't had time to dedicate to videos (that, and I think I'm going to shelve my next project for a bit and come back to it later for the sake of getting *something* done). I do plan on doing more here though, so do stay tuned!
@Aconspiracyofravens1
@Aconspiracyofravens1 Жыл бұрын
@@vogontheater7952 oh! thank you for responding! looking forward to it!
@mariaivanova8101
@mariaivanova8101 Жыл бұрын
it’s just downright weird at that point, but i’ve been rewatching your videos like every three months. they just haunt me in the best way possible. i really really hope that you’ll make something new one day. but if, for any reason, you won’t, i hope that you’re okay and happy
@vogontheater7952
@vogontheater7952 Жыл бұрын
That's so sweet of you to say! I've been insanely busy with other life stuff and have stalled out on the script for my next video but I haven't given up on the channel! New stuff.... eventually? In a couple months, probably?
@thefrostbee4182
@thefrostbee4182 Жыл бұрын
huh... ive never heard of acid communism. combining that with solarpunk might be my new go to
@idiotdoomspiral666
@idiotdoomspiral666 Жыл бұрын
‘egg heading’ is a good way of describing the sharp spiral one delves into when describing their love for DE and how they-whoever has triggered this sensation-NEED to play it. fantastic video.
@Kimbie
@Kimbie 2 жыл бұрын
I loved the phrase "Something *beautiful* is going to happen" since my second playthrough. After having gotten a grip on the game in the first, it kind of encapsulates what it's about to me: hope in the face of uncertainty. I love how it ties into the meaning of Cindy's "masterpiece" too. You mutually contributed to the creation and meaning of eachother's art. Her paint brush, and your blood.
@ZacFrazier
@ZacFrazier 2 жыл бұрын
I feel like I gotta replay this game at least once a year, and this is pushing me to soon
@JamieZero7
@JamieZero7 2 жыл бұрын
The game sucks, it's a point-and-click until figure out what to do. Even if things seem so simple. Falls into that typical point and click. And tries to go for a "deep story". The developer's love for communism, killing, and stealing from people. And the communist fanboys are annoying around the game.
@youmgsandwiche
@youmgsandwiche 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent video, my dude. I never actually drew that connection in my head about art being a way to process and move on from that past, and how that relates to the significance of Harry helping Egg Head perfect the music. I was like Egg Head's portrait when you said that lmao, like it really changes things that I now understand this one part of the game that I didn't understand before and I have more things to think of whenever my brain randomly brings up Disco Elysium. I love it, subbed and I hope you eventually put out more stuff.
@rainer_uncrowned
@rainer_uncrowned 2 жыл бұрын
Hopefully all those Tequila Sunsets out there find their Insulindian Phasmid one day. I’m rooting for you.
@Shinigami13133
@Shinigami13133 2 жыл бұрын
1:39 I absolutely do not think you should've revealed the main characters name in such a blase way. I consider reclaiming (or even rejecting) your identity a pretty important story beat that can really shape a first playthrough.
@vogontheater7952
@vogontheater7952 2 жыл бұрын
That's a fair criticism, that sort of slipped past me. I'm not sure there's much I can do about it now but I'll for sure pay closer attention to details like that in the future. Thanks!
@nickwimmer6954
@nickwimmer6954 2 жыл бұрын
At the end when you mentioned "At a later playthrough..." regarding the mural, I knew exactly which words you were going to say and had a big smile. Fuck I love this game.
@pissqueendanniella4688
@pissqueendanniella4688 2 жыл бұрын
okay comrade, you got my sub <3 i look forward to seeing more of your work
@shrubbins2846
@shrubbins2846 2 жыл бұрын
I'm not entirely sure if you'll see this comment, or if you use this channel that much, I hope you're doing another project. But please, *please* continue making content, the two videos you've created so far have absolutely blown me away in quality, you're working on a near professional level. I sincerely wish to see more of your content, and look forward to notifications about such. Keep going, you're going to make something out of this channel if you keep it up, I know you will.
@vogontheater7952
@vogontheater7952 2 жыл бұрын
Hey, that's incredibly sweet of you to say. I actually have another video in the works right now! The scripting has been the most difficult part, but it I am making progress! It can be kind of hard to motivate myself for larger projects like these sometimes, so your comment really means a lot to me. I'm really glad you've enjoyed my work so far, I hope you like what's up next as well!
@victoriastanton576
@victoriastanton576 2 жыл бұрын
Oh, this video fucked so hard. You should be really proud of this one.
@yari4046
@yari4046 2 жыл бұрын
actually if you follow inland empire's advice and ignore almost everything related to harry's past you won't meet dora even if you take a nap on the island
@vogontheater7952
@vogontheater7952 2 жыл бұрын
Oh, interesting! That makes perfect sense. I had no idea, I don't think I ever did a playthrough where I fully did not look into Dora at all. That's cool to know, thanks!
@LiamWhittle-tm7yo
@LiamWhittle-tm7yo 5 ай бұрын
​@@vogontheater7952 I didn't know either. I actually tried to do it but got the caustic echo thought (you can throw away the love letter) and even that is enough to have the dream
@IndieIndite
@IndieIndite 2 жыл бұрын
This was truly a beautiful analysis of outer wilds, perfectly showing how alone you are in the universe, travelling, and unknowingly being the cause for a new universe
@riebeck1986
@riebeck1986 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing video !
@Dirkgrayson
@Dirkgrayson 2 жыл бұрын
This was phenomenal, let alone for a first video. Thanks for sharing it with us, can't wait to see what else you'll write about!
@ИгорьСоколов-х1у
@ИгорьСоколов-х1у 2 жыл бұрын
Well, there was bourgeoisie executions not communist
@hipsterbrigadier9428
@hipsterbrigadier9428 2 жыл бұрын
Jesus I got some tears in my eyes with that closer, I didn’t expect that
@joaof.freitasdesousacamps1319
@joaof.freitasdesousacamps1319 2 жыл бұрын
Lovely analysis, congrats!
@kataliyun226
@kataliyun226 2 жыл бұрын
ah yes, the good ol' "i can imagine a better world therefore communism is good." what leftist forget is that they never had the monopoly when it comes to better worlds. their ad hoc justification of being the best in the best of possible worlds category falls flat. they will keep repeating that 'we've stopped imagining about life after capitalism' except the truth is they've been doing nothing else except imagining. he entirely misses his own many analogies that warn precisely against this only too reiterate it again. basically, after supposedly claiming that capitalism snuffs out our imagining, then we have to imagine harder! just like the silly little reading club.
@starlittardis2049
@starlittardis2049 2 жыл бұрын
Oh, I love this. I love this.
@northsidestar120
@northsidestar120 2 жыл бұрын
I cried when playing the game. Now I'm crying over an essay about the game. There's no escape. Great.
@chloerandolph6405
@chloerandolph6405 2 жыл бұрын
i ADORE this video i can't even be more specific. hell yeah. also i accidentally skipped the "dolores dei" dream & so i'll be back to watch that part when i finish my next playthrough
@vogontheater7952
@vogontheater7952 2 жыл бұрын
For a scene that completely destroyed me emotionally when I got to it, it's shockingly easy to miss! Kim just offhandedly mentions that you could rest if you want to. It's such an important part of Harry's emotional arc, imo that it's honestly pretty buckwild how it's sort of off to the side of the main story.
@benjamincanner2900
@benjamincanner2900 2 жыл бұрын
Just found your channel, keep up the awesome work!
@timedwards7338
@timedwards7338 2 жыл бұрын
Fantastic essay! I think my KZbin algorithm just puts every video about this game at the top of my list now, and I’m glad I came across yours
@vogontheater7952
@vogontheater7952 2 жыл бұрын
I'm glad, too! Really happy to hear you enjoyed it. Stay tuned, there's another (non-DE) video in the works that I hope you'll enjoy.
@mariaivanova8101
@mariaivanova8101 2 жыл бұрын
i’ve been trying to leave a comment for five minutes straight, but i’m just speechless. this is so incredibly cool. not just for the first video ever-this is generally amazing.
@vogontheater7952
@vogontheater7952 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much, that just made my day!
@downwithfun
@downwithfun 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome vid!
@zljmbo
@zljmbo 2 жыл бұрын
bless
@arkusworldwalker9818
@arkusworldwalker9818 2 жыл бұрын
Hello! Is it possible to have the video script? It'd be for an academic paper on Disco Elysium.
@vogontheater7952
@vogontheater7952 2 жыл бұрын
Hey there! The recording ended up being pretty fragmented across versions of the script but if there's a particular passage you'd like me to transcribe, let me know and I'll get it sent over to you. Cheers!
@dylanjulve5374
@dylanjulve5374 2 жыл бұрын
your measurehead impression is amazing
@Syfon000
@Syfon000 2 жыл бұрын
keep up the good work brother. it's quality stuff, be patient.
@coreyrachar9694
@coreyrachar9694 2 жыл бұрын
nice!
@theroadstopshere
@theroadstopshere 2 жыл бұрын
"Dad, why is my sister named Violet?" "Well son, that's because your mother absolutely loves violets, and thinks that they're beautiful and heartwarming." "Oh, okay, thanks Dad!" "You're welcome, 'Alone at the End of the Universe [SPOILERS: Outer Wilds, Echoes of the Eye]', glad you asked." But seriously, fantastic work here, man. Loved the discussion and comparisons of how the Nomai treated the Hearthians with warmth and curiosity, vs. how alien, lonely, and hostile the strangers feel to us, and how even being aboard their ship makes us feel more alone and trapped than anytime before in the game. And oooof, man, "Paper Boats" just hits so good everytime I rewatch this. The juxtaposition of the lyrics and the visuals, from the dam bursting and literally carrying our Hearthian away downstream, to the stars twinkling away their last moments bittersweetly in the backdrop of space, is just **chef's kiss**
@chasepyle6168
@chasepyle6168 2 жыл бұрын
Very good.
@vogontheater7952
@vogontheater7952 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!