Rufus Youngblood immediately sprung to the back seat in the vice president's car and covered Johnson. To me and some others a great fault goes to the driver of the President's limo. He had a number of seconds to speed away or swerve and failed to do so. If Connally heard the shots, then the two secret service agents in the front seat must have heard them also. After all, they are trained exactly for this. Jackie Kennedy was bitterly critical in private of their performance. Will Greer the driver, later apologized.

Maybe somewhat lame, but a good example of how the cold war was going at the time and what people were thinking. Capitalist vs. Commie. A real war of ideas was going on in the world and it obviously affected Oswald.

One of the comments below say Craig was very messed up, even his daughter admits it.

Please see the video preceding this one which I posted 4 days ago.

And drop him off there to commit another murder in broad daylight which people witnessed, and then drove off leaving him alone?! Try again.

@@dks13827 about the time Oswald was being wrestled into arrest in the theater, Donald House (RIP, 2021) was being hauled into the Ft. Worth PD under arrest as the result of an APB for a green & white Ford thought to be connected to the assassination. He was immediately released upon Oswald’s arrest. I don’t think he was hounded by conspiracy nuts, like so many others with the least bit of connection to the tragedy. His obituary lauds his Army Service, family life, and is silent about his scary and bizarre Friday afternoon so long ago.

Yes, long debunked stuff keeps auto resurrecting

It is sad about Roger Craig, but the video is really more directed at Mark Lane and his followers. How he could make a film like this all those years later, when as I said, all the evidence that had been documented about the bus ride and taxi ride. Talk about insulting the intelligence of the average person, or taking advantage of people who are not versed in the assassination.

Mr. BELIN. Would you describe just exactly what you saw when you saw him this last time? Mr. BBENNAN. Well, as it appeared to me he was standing up and resting against the left window sill, with gun shouldered to his right shoulder, holding the gun with his left hand and taking positive aim and fired his last shot. As I calculate a couple of seconds. He drew the gun back from the window as though he was drawing it back to his side and maybe paused for another second as though to assure hisself that he hit his mark, and then he disappeared.

A couple things about the coke. First, his favorite drink was Dr. Pepper. Why did he have a coke instead? Was he rattled after Baker saw him and pushed the wrong button? And personally, I find it hard to believe that he would have been on the second floor at 12:05 when he had no way of knowing exactly what time the motorcade would be passing by. Since he had already taken a shot at Walker, had actually already tried to kill someone, and therefore "had experience" with going through the motions of murdering someone i.e., he had already proven to himself that he can do something like this, he wasn't going to miss a chance of a lifetime just so he could have a coke. About the direction, I tend to think he was walking west. Here is the reason- Markham's testimony on Dec. 2, 1963 to the Secret Service was she didn't see the man on the side walk until Tippit pulled over and stopped. On March 16, 1964 told the FBI that she first saw the man after Tippit passed the intersection. On March 26, 1964 she told the Warren Commission that she first saw the man in front of Scoggins car about to step up on the curb, heading east. Then she saw Tippit driving alongside the man. Scoggins never said he saw the man walk by his car. Other witnesses saw him walking west a block away at Denver St. Jack Tatum who was driving by said he saw him walking east. But the woman inside the house right in front of where Tippit pulled over, a Mrs. Ann McRaven said she saw him "run" by her house. Myers tends to think with Tatum saying he was walking east, Scoggins saying he may have been turning around when he saw him, that either running or turning around would have been suspicious activity from Tippit's point of view and maybe this is why he stopped Oswald. Because as Myers says, a lot of men in Dallas would fit the description of Oswald. Hardly reason for stopping this particular man.

@@TomVincent-JFK63 I'm west leaning pretty good myself. I know it adds two blocks to the walk, but still thing there was reasonable time to make it. My point with the coke was that conspiracy theorists use that as crucial to debunking the timeline, yet they can't prove he bought it then. Even so, the best time estimates for truly and the officer to arrive at the second floor, i believe are underestimated. The clock above the building read 12:30 before the shots were fired according to 2 eyewitnesses. So the shots could have been 12:30:30 or could have been 12:30:45. Nobody in that time Era had precise to the second time precision. The officer had to cover more distance on a horizontal plane than Oswald since he parked in front of the building. He found truly, made their way through the crowd, failed at catching the elevator, then climbed a flight of stairs. Precise timing not being available, it could be ascertained that Oswald had sufficient time to reach the second floor. Possibly with 2 minutes to spare. Enough time to buy a coke Even if he bought it then and not earlier. As for Dr. Pepper being his favourite, that means nothing. Coke is mine, but I indulge in other beverages. Usually cherry Pepsi, but sometimes others.

@@benjaminrealy5661 Jim Moore in his book "Conspiracy of One" thinks the coke or Dr. Pepper is something. Why would a man who exclusively drinks DR. Pepper select coke. He thinks his state of mind was rattled. If he had done nothing that day except work his job, why would he have the wrong drink. In the end, in a way, it's nothing, but maybe an enlightening little tiny piece that fits into the whole. I say maybe. I'd have to go back to the book and see what else he said as regards the coke. I'm thinking, did the machine have Dr. Pepper, was it empty of Dr. PEPPER? etc. LOL I'm a ginger ale man myself! Mostly juices though.

@@benjaminrealy5661 I forgot to include that Baker said in his Warren Commission testimony, Oswald had nothing in his hand when he encountered him. So he had to buy it after. Or maybe there was a coke bottle on a table that someone left and Oswald picked it up? Who knows?

@@TomVincent-JFK63 if you're ever in the Midwest, try Vernors ginger ale. You won't be disappointed.

If I remember correctly, I may have thought something along the same lines when I first read this. It would have been better just to relate the cold fact, and then later put it in historical context.

That's what this assassination has turned into for me. A study in psychology and logic. As you question- why are people so taken with implausible assertions and theories that defy logic and reality, years, decades later. Thanks for your comment.

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That film is from the fourth floor. I think her name is Ellie Dorfman, or some name like that (I'd have to look it up) and there isn't much more than that. If only she had taken more, just like the man, who had the sixth floor captured of film, but then stopped seconds before the first shot. But they have to be forgiven, they didn't know what was about to unfold. Thanks for the question.

@@TomVincent-JFK63 my iPhone is almost full, so I can’t say I’d have recorded much more myself 😅

I think it might be natural to jerk when you hear a shot, but yes, I would not use that as proof. There could be lots of reasons a person might jerk the camera not relating to sound. If only they had smart phones in 1963!

The angle would make it impossible, but it all happened in a split second, so who knows what Holland saw and how his brain and eyes put together what he saw. We can trust our senses on the one hand, and on the other, we cannot. He did say in his Warren Commission testimony that he immediately ran over behind the picket fence and saw no one. I did a little experiment when I was there this past April if you'd like to check it out. Here is the link. Go to 23:27 to get the setup and the test. kzbin.info/www/bejne/Zoupfmadq7x6jbssi=mqVvqtNJmtuQc-uv

Can't say anything about that. I don't really stay up to date with modern going ons. However, I think we are anti-nazi, but that doesn't stop us from using a "nazi" like Werner Von Braun to get our rocket program going. But, if we hadn't got him, the Russians would have. It gets complicated.

@@TomVincent-JFK63 Von Braun was a party member, but more like for career reasons, and he just helped NASA. I’m talking about high-ranking Nazis, many who were integrated into NATO, but the best-known is Kurt Waldheim, former Secretary General of the United Nations.

@@cmorea Ah yes, forgot about Waldheim. You're right about Von Braun also. He just wanted to build rockets and anyone who let him, he would go with. Something like that gets complicated too. You're young, you want to advance, most everybody else is going along with it, so I will too. But then there are others who can see that it is absolutely wrong what the Nazi's are doing, and they make plans to assassinate Hitler

Kennedy's speech is almost always seen in edited form. There was someone to his right who was translating into German for the crowd after each few sentences. So, you are exactly right.

@@TomVincent-JFK63 wow. Never knew that! Must be why they cut to the cheering crowd after each line

@@TomVincent-JFK63CBS video archive includes (some of?) the German translation kzbin.info/www/bejne/p3yUoJ-VfqxqbcUsi=1f2jQ-RB3fJlSgai

I don't stay up to date with modern politics, so can't comment. Way too much going on for me to stay on top of it.

We'll have to agree to disagree.

Exactly. And that's why I said that my little speech isn't proof of them acting alone, but It's just that I get so exasperated with these people who jump to conclusions.

I didn't know background checks were instantaneous. I should have known with modern technology. Laziness, I am convinced is the number one sin of people. They don't even want to think things through, investigate, or see what their conclusions imply. Too lazy even to think. I don't need a haircut, I need more hair! haha It is getting thinner. Thanks for the comment.

You can say that again.

Please get a copy of With Malice and read that book. All your questions are answered. I will be reading one more item from that book, about the wallet. I am also going to point out something about that shooting that as far as I know, no one has pointed out. By the way, I can't convince you, nor can Myers, Bugliosi, Posner etc. That's up to you either way - conspiracy or no conspiracy. Thanks for your comment.

Quite the contrary I've never taken down a critical comment. Look around my channel.(look down a couple comments below) In fact I have said before, it's a fringe benefit when I receive critical comments, in general, the mentality of the conspiracy community is there for all to see. And, the government is doing a great job shutting down the conspiracy community aren't they?- hundreds of books, conventions, youtube channels etc. You folks are sure being silenced.

@@TomVincent-JFK63 who is the "conspiracy community" or "you folks". That's guv language in itself, so obvious and amateur. To weaklings who hide behind crowds, it's hard to believe a person can stand alone and think for himself. Especially one like myself who knows where and how the royalty payments are made for the hit(present tense).

@@jonhenson5450 Hide behind the crowd? You've got the crowd on your side

@@jonhenson5450 So you think I'm part of the government? HKeep talking and keep making an ass out of yourself. Here is what I do in life- kzbin.info/www/bejne/nYbRmmaKZbGXh5o

@@TomVincent-JFK63 saw it, no wonder you decided to lie for a living.

They are selling books and as I've said somewhere else, it's kind of a juvenile game most of them are playing. Thank you for your comment Gary.

For an in depth analysis read pages 312-336 from Myers book. It is available on ebay

Never heard that name either! Thanks for the comment

​@@TomVincent-JFK63example: DOAK Walker played high school football at Highland Park(Dallas) also SMU, NFL, circa 40's and 50:s.

Thanks for the comment and you offer a good theory. The police knocked on the door at 2:58. So between the time Oswald was arrested at 1:50 there is little over an hour when a car could have come by. But why did she take 5 days to tell about the car and of course the two men she named didn't check out. So, yes it's possible there was a car that came by (but then wouldn't a policeman have come forward saying he drove by to make a quick check when Robert's story became news?), in the way you described, and at some point a sound (horn, maybe even of a car driven by an ordinary citizen, or a siren) but these will have to remain theories. As far as Roberts is concerned, as many as there are of us humans, there is an equal amount of different personalities, idiosyncrasies, etc. We'll never know now if she did see something or just made it up.

@@TomVincent-JFK63 well it also demonstrates we do not have to show she's mistaken to defend the Warren report. The car that she saw could have also been unrelated to checking on the house. The easiest route from the theater to dealey Plaza passes in front of her house. On a main road. A cop car could have also been going from one scene to the other, gotten slowed down in front of her house by a random car, blurbed it's siren to have the car let him pass, then sped up once past the car. As for why 5 days, I don't see what's unreasonable about that. It seems like just a trivial detail that wouldn't matter much. (Of course later conspiracy theorists made it not a trivial detail) and for getting the officers names wrong, I'm 45 with a good detail memory, I've mistaken names and faces too

@@benjaminrealy5661 All those scenarios are possible of course and we definitely don't need her to defend the Warren Report. Thank you!

@@dennisharrington6055 You're welcome Dennis

Thank you

@@rawbacon Agree. Thank you.

Update, I rewatched both segments with captions on. The John Lennon segment correctly uses "Lennon " in the captions. But in the Lenin segment it used "Lenin" and "Lennon" both. So I guess AI can get confused by both names. I know not relevant, just something I found interesting.

@@benjaminrealy5661 Yeah that's interesting. Maybe AI got the first one right because Lennon was murdered by gunshot wounds so there was no confusion there

In the song American Pie, where he says "Lennon read a book on Marx" the lyrics have "Lenin". Since the song is about rock and roll, it should be "Lennon" but it could go either way I suppose. The song "Imagine" is very communistic- "Imagine no possessions"

You know what, I think you're right. And also throw in what Priscilla McMillan said in her book, he could not pass up an opportunity like this. I think what Mailer was doing was playing the psychologist. All those things were underneath, or some of them anyway. Of course Oswald didn't start articulating all those things when he found out Kennedy would be passing by. But you can be sure, if Ruby hadn't shot him, and he had his trial, at some point he would have started expounding his ideas, either on the witness stand (if his lawyer let him take the stand, which is doubtful) or in jail when journalists, reporters and authors came to hear him tell his story, just as what happened with Charles Manson.

Not familiar with that. Without looking into it though, how and why on earth could the CIA, trained killers and experts in covert operations, be stupid enough, and careless enough to leave even the slightest kind of paper trail. Adolph Hitler for instance, never signed ANYTHING that ordered the final solution. It' was done with a nod of his head.

Haha!

Don't follow you exactly, but I have just been going through the books in chronological order. Mailer is an excellent writer by the way.One more post will be coming from Mailer then it's on to Dale Myers and his book about he Tippit murder. L

In fact, All you have to do is read the introduction in Bugliosi's book, and it's all over right there.

They want a conspiracy, no matter what. Don't worry about them. It's just a juvenile game with them. Thank you for your comment!

@@TomVincent-JFK63 You're welcome. I'm now reading Patricia Lambert's book, "False Witness," about Jim Garrison and Oliver Stone. Two bullshit artists extraordinaire! It's appalling, bizarre. Keep up the good work, Tom!

@@williamlarochelle6833 Thank you William. When was that book written? Might have to get that on my list of readings

@@tomvincentsmusicalheritage2755 I'm surprised you don't know of it. It was published in 2000. A real eye-opener it is--a must-have, trust me.

@@williamlarochelle6833 Thank you. I will get it. What can I say except, certain things we miss. Maybe I saw it and saw the name Garrison and didn't want to waste my time. It is so obvious Garrison was a nut, I don't need to read a book about it. lol

Yes, Mailer is brilliant. As Oswald being a spy and conspiring with himself- exactly what Jim Moore thought a few years earlier by titling his book, "Conspriacy of One"

You're welcome