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Yeah, my uncle has an 07, but all the rest of the old Deutz's still kicking around here are the 06 series. Well, that and a lot of DX tractors.

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Yeah, the older shank chisel plows without opener discs don't work as well.

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I think so too!

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Deutz never "failed" in North America. Deutz Fahr maintained production and sales in North America throughout the entire run of Deutz Allis, and continues to, to this day. Deutz Allis was a separate company formed when Deutz Fahr bought Allis Chalmers. Deutz Allis was a North American subsidiary of KHD. And, Deutz's finances in North America were not any worse than the rest of the existing American Tractor brands at the beginning of the 1990s. KHD sold Deutz Allis to Bob Ratliff in 1990 because the fall of the Berlin Wall opened up Eastern Europe for Deutz Fahr as an entirely new market, right on their doorstep. As for "causing more fires than an arsonist" this is a wild exaggeration. The air-cooled engines require regular cleaning, especially if you work with a particularly chaff heavy crop or in a dusty region. All Gleaner combine fires are a result of users not properly maintaining their air-cooling system, and letting the fan wear down past the replacement point. I have a close friend who to this day, uses Deutz powered Gleaner combines for a huge cash crop operation here in Wisconsin, and they have never burnt down.

@@DeutzFarmer96 Lets break it down, shall we? KHD buys the agricultural division of Allis Chalmers, for 107 Million US, in 1985. Allis Chalmers was the third largest, in market share, in agricultural equipment, and first in combines, in North America, along with the largest dealer network. 5 years later, in 1990, Robert Ratliff tells the press he and others paid "40 cents on the dollar" for Deutz Allis. At the time of the buyout, Deutz was not ranked, due to their marketshare being that small, in tractors and combines, they were classified as a "minor manufacturer". Remember, Ratliff also said that KHD was going to close, not sell, close Deutz-Allis and discontinue Gleaner and their support for Allis-Chalmers and all other equipment, thus the management buyout. If that isn't a failure, selling yourself for 40 cents on the dollar instead of just plain closing, which would be another failure, going from #3 to somehow below Massey and White, I don't know what is. If their finances were not bad, why were they planning to close Deutz-Allis? So what, if the wall fell? Do you not realize that the North American market is worth more than any other market in the world, and that those on the other side of the wall would not be able to recover, or afford modern, in comparason, equipment for decades? Deutz had it all and failed, them saying "the wall fell" is nothing more than marketing, as Deutz isn't exactly a massive competitor in Eastern Euope then or today either. "air-cooled engines require regular cleaning, especially if you work with a particularly chaff heavy crop or in a dusty region" You do realize where Gleaners were mostly sold? The Great Plains, the West, The Prairies? That is the majority of the combine market in the US and Canada: dry, dusty, enviroments. The Majority of all combine production goes there. Did Deutz tell owners that you would have to clean the engine multiple times a day? No. Did they tell dealers? No. What did Deutz litteraly advertise, in video and brochures? "No radiator to clean every day", "Less maintance, just check the oil and go". Take a look at the design of the engine compartment on a Gleaner. Take a look at an N and then an Agco R, with the Cummins. What do both of those have, design feature wise? A big fan, to move air, to keep chaff and dust off the engine, to move chaff and dust through the compartment, either out or away from the engine. What does a Deutz Gleaner have? A fan, channeling air into the engine, allowing the compartment to quickly be covered with flammable material, including the exhaust. No fan to keep the exhaust system clean or to cool anything on it. Deutz basically just slapped an engine in and called it good. Wisconsin: probably corn and beans, very little small grains, usually cool and DAMP. Little to no dust, and what dust there is, is DAMP. In the plains states and provinces, harvest is during 85+ degree days with less than 20% humidity. Everything is extemely dry, everything that goes through a rotary is turned to dust. Should we start, with their uncompetitive tractors? Hydraulic capacity less than half of any US or Canadian manufacturer, from pressure to GPM to resivoir capacity. Transmissions that were comparable to a "swiss watch" as said by many dealers, making any repair, and there were a lot as the tractor wasn't made for North America, extremely expensive, difficult, and time consuming. Tractors sold in enviroments that needed heat, but as known by most, oil takes a lot longer to heat up than antifreeze, leading to propane and diesel heaters being required in a small confined enviroment. Cabs that were reminicent of 1950s. Large tractors that didn't come onto the market until a year or so before the AGCO buyout. I could go on about Deutz's failure, because I've read, and asked many, about how did KHD take something they should have been basically able to take and run with, and fail so badly, it took 10 years for AGCO to recover to being the bottom of the "Major manufacturer" list? How did KHD go from #3 to #6 to unranked, in a market that consisted of: Deere, Tenneco backed CIH, Ford-New Holland, White, Failing Massey Ferguson, and various regional and import comapnies? How and why did they take a proven, known, decently reputable line, and destroy it with an unproven, unknown, poorly recieved, line? About all I can find, is KHD did what you are doing, with what you said about Wisconsin and Deutz Gleaners: "It works here, therefore it must work everywhere, if it doesn't they're using it wrong". The tractors may have worked in Germany, with small farms that had lots of time, not to mention a very protected ag economy, even to this day. They didn't here, and they were too stubborn to think that not everywhere is Germany. Failures and fires were blamed on the user, a user who never had to worry about it before, who was not informed they bought the equiviant of a fancy, fragile, swiss watch, that needed hours of daily maintance, throughout the day. Not just "grease and vissually inspect" as before. Auction and sales results don't lie. No one, aside from a select few, want a Deutz anything from the 80s, on the "Big, Western Farms".

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Me too, that's why I'm uploading them all.

That sounds like a decent use for one of these.

Yeah, they were pretty small at the time they were released for most farmers i know.

Yeah, i know i don't know anyone with one.

Cool, thanks!

Yes, thanks

Yeah, they always do focus in on the "power" aspect. Other brands have their areas of focus as well. "Fuel Economy" "Robust Design" "Reliability", etc.

Lol, the 1980s and to a lesser extent, the 1990s were an interesting time. American consumerism was at an all time high.

And the rest of the world just got on with business as usual.

Yeah, these, the 66's and the 86's were the most popular ones around me growing up, at least for IH.

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Yep, It's from the early 80s i believe, so one of the older ones i've uploaded.

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