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@sambuujargalsaihan6101
@sambuujargalsaihan6101 Күн бұрын
Do pacifist
@kamera1890
@kamera1890 Күн бұрын
If you want to see the compassion route I’d look into downloading the patch yourself in the description. I’ve left out the compassion route so there was still new content left to see after watching this video. Alternatively, Beethovenus (TS!Underswap’s director) also plans to stream it soon so you could also tune into that!
@corruptedstriker67
@corruptedstriker67 2 күн бұрын
This is a great video and it gets me excited for the full game in years to come.
@KeenGo-di4tw
@KeenGo-di4tw 3 күн бұрын
papyrus is gender fluid! There's supposed be Mettallatte. Wait Flowey is Chara's dad!? LoL polygami and payment. He remembers (your ruthless's!). Well, this was fun!
@superlemonslicer1224
@superlemonslicer1224 3 күн бұрын
"I think I just play ASGORE for fun", that one line got me 💀
@kamera1890
@kamera1890 3 күн бұрын
This line got me too 💀
@bladebisharp1997
@bladebisharp1997 3 күн бұрын
Ooo…this’ll be very interesting, can’t wait to see how this unfolds🤩
@Ablexy
@Ablexy 3 күн бұрын
'The google route'
@clicktuck
@clicktuck 3 күн бұрын
We're gonna get a Metta hangout
@sambuujargalsaihan6101
@sambuujargalsaihan6101 4 күн бұрын
What you think about murder sans
@havzp1802
@havzp1802 10 күн бұрын
Excellent video, imo I like to think that Enemy Retreating motif is most like a Vengeance motif because it plays in Trial by Fury in a hard way, in Axis it sounds a bit like being scared, like Axis, and in Zenith being that now Martlet is totally decided to punish you for what you have done but starting to get weaker
@conquestanddeath4406
@conquestanddeath4406 11 күн бұрын
I'm a bit scared what Frisk is going to be like in the ruthless route if they show up at the ending considering Geno-Frisk seems to have a sadistic and mocking personality unlike Geno-Chara's power-hungry/completionist yet simple nature.
@kamera1890
@kamera1890 11 күн бұрын
If Frisk ends up having a somewhat similar speech at the end, then I think it will focus on something more akin to Flowey’s sense of completionism. Wanting to see every bit of content the world has to offer, although rather than just equating them to “Lines of dialogue” and “Sets of numbers” Frisk I feel would focus more on the Characters emotions, wanting to scrap together all sense of emotion, whether it be positive or negative, out of the world. Lazynick made a hypothetical of Frisk having a speech after a second genocide run that I think excellently captures this idea for Frisk: x.com/lazynick5/status/1771921352083046647?s=46&t=UuHS46TxlUDiwZjd4VVnMg
@conquestanddeath4406
@conquestanddeath4406 11 күн бұрын
@@kamera1890 I agree, though I find the idea of something with that much power just wanting to make people suffer for fun and not any greater reason or curiosity way more fucked up.
@kamera1890
@kamera1890 11 күн бұрын
@@conquestanddeath4406 * No matter when it happens. * No matter where it happens. * I will be awaiting to witness your return. * May you choose compassion, cruelty, or something in-between… * I will be there to see it. * To see the joy from those you spare, to see the despair from those kill you. * To observe all of the feelings in this world that your actions bring forth. * That is what I am waiting for. * See you next time, partner.
@Alt_DiegoBrando
@Alt_DiegoBrando 4 күн бұрын
​@@kamera1890 POGGERS.
@Superboi0119
@Superboi0119 18 күн бұрын
oh man kam dropped again boys
@Tafdewq
@Tafdewq 18 күн бұрын
You are very welcome ;)
@kamera1890
@kamera1890 18 күн бұрын
Teehee, thank you.
@kurtiskurt1
@kurtiskurt1 18 күн бұрын
Saw this on r/UndertaleYellow
@mylam658
@mylam658 27 күн бұрын
Chara is my favorite UNDERTALE character. Playing through TS US myself was very enjoyable, seeing how well they handled characterizing them. I'm glad you share that same appreciation.
@zorlex9668
@zorlex9668 27 күн бұрын
I still don't believe the one changing Chara's dialogue is the player as there is just certain things that don't make sense to me. If it is us, the player, changing the dialogue then wouldn't we be aware that we are the ones doing it? Many players (including myself) are going to go through the whole game wondering what the entity changing the dialogue is and, if it is revealed to be the player, it would be kind of strange. I get the whole 'curiosity' thing but, what about the players who are curious about what happens if you stay with Asgore, or if you want to say, "I don't know" to Sans' question? It would kind of be immersion breaking and take away that sense of choice that players love in Undertale fangames if it was revealed that you were the one changing the dialogue. Not to mention how none of the changed text is in first-person when it would be better if it was. I don't hate this theory; I just think it would make much more sense for it to be Frisk so that they have at least some role in the story. Plus, I think the player being in control of Chara's actions, not their words, is enough control to still have the player be relevant. Sorry about the rant, just wanted to share why I don't think it's the player doing this.
@kamera1890
@kamera1890 27 күн бұрын
I’ll go through this point by point to say why I think it’s the player influencing Chara. So for the first point, a lot of players may be ‘unaware’ because the game doesn’t want to explicitly confirm who it is, likely for mysteries sake. The main reason I like Player theory though is because the player themselves has to choose the overwritten dialogue, and this action is done with the red heart (something that in basically all of Undertale and Deltarune is directly linked to the player). If it was Frisk then I don’t see why these dialogue options exist at all, Chara would just something out of line independent of the Player choosing an option. As for the second point, if someone wanted to stay in Asgore’s home or have a more uncertain response to Sans, the left dialogue option exists for a reason. The last thing here is about wanting to give Frisk a role in the story; Firstly, I think it’s kind of weird to want Frisk influencing Chara’s solely to have a role in the story is kind of weird narratively. Secondly, they will very likely have a role in the story that is dependent from being the entity, since they’ll likely either be the main Temmie or Flowey. I Hope this comment helps!
@shiro_3611
@shiro_3611 Ай бұрын
=w=
@davidholanda1
@davidholanda1 Ай бұрын
considering Beethovenous' (the lead dev) comments about Asriel in Ruthless Route and that they said "if you think Harry and Larry's fight was bad, then you're not prepared for what's to come in Crystal Springs", which someone asked Asriel and they apologized for it, then it make me to believe that we might get another heartbreaking moment with Asriel in the area I think he'll try to escape throughout the area as much as possible, so then he get cornered in an area with no exit, with no way to leave and Chara would try to kill him, only for Alphys to stop it, getting hit as a result This might activate her "Undyne the Undying" counterpart to stop us, making her the hero as she always wanted Well, that's my predictation
@kamera1890
@kamera1890 Ай бұрын
I think this could happen, although as a side note since I didn’t clarify this in the video I don’t think Alphys will get a transformation like Undyne did. These characters personality are still fundamentally the same, and Alphys doesn’t have the needed determination for something like that to happen. I think she’d pose a threat mostly through her general intelligence, and being able to throw a lot of gadgets and such at you to try and stop you.
@Koffin-K_Gaming
@Koffin-K_Gaming 29 күн бұрын
I think that maybe Alphys won't be able to save Asriel in time, leading to her seeing him die before her eyes. After this maybe she would start crying or something because she couldn't save so many people and that she is a fraud but then she suddenly realizes that this moment is a do or die and she pushes through the fear to fight Chara.
@Koffin-K_Gaming
@Koffin-K_Gaming Ай бұрын
I have a theory that instead of temmie village, it might be their base of operations. Maybe we have to sneak around there without getting caught to find out hidden information about them. Maybe it will confirm or debunk theories about the temmies or even flowey. Also maybe in ruthless, asriel might to fight us before alphys shows up and saves him just as he's going to die. asriel might try to stop us in other parts of crystal springs from advancing and we have to go on a separate path to compassion/neutral (and maybe evac) before finding him and trying to kill him as he tries to stop us from entering boreal bluffs.
@kamera1890
@kamera1890 Ай бұрын
I could definitely see this yea! I’ve also seen people suggest that Asriel will undergo his own sort of weird route throughout crystal springs, conceptually I like it with how it parallels Undertale although I’m unsure as to how that would actually be executed.
@Koffin-K_Gaming
@Koffin-K_Gaming Ай бұрын
@@kamera1890 (Keep in mind that this is just speculation by me and is not based on any real evidence) For the weapons and armors added, I feel like dusty or enchanted glasses (I'll get to that soon) could be a good fit instead of the cloudy glasses. Maybe a weak spell book could be used instead of the torn notebook (This would also mean that the kid with the purple soul was a wizard of sorts and maybe enchanted their glasses, giving it more defense). The way it might function would be close to how Undertale yellow's toy gun works (but harder) as you summon a weak fireball at the monsters. As for the ballet shoes maybe something like roller skates that raises your speed (can be stacked upon other speed increases) could fit although they may want to keep the ballet part the same. I'm not sure how this weapon might function but maybe the bar goes fast across the screen dealing more damage than the dented pan if hit perfectly but less than the spell book. For the old tutu, however, I'm not sure what a name could be like, but I think it would also raise your speed.
@kamera1890
@kamera1890 Ай бұрын
@@Koffin-K_Gaming Oo I really like the idea of having the torn notebook seeing some spell book! Especially since TS!Underswap has already given more focus on how humans had their own type of magic too. The other armor and weapon ideas seem very cool too!
@thejester4130
@thejester4130 Ай бұрын
8:55 wow thats actually a really cool fact i would never have figured out, ill have to remember to go back to the bed after seeing whatever memory is shown in crystal springs to see a hint about what rhe hotland of this game will offer. Also just cool vid in general
@Bengt2509
@Bengt2509 Ай бұрын
15:12 I didn’t get this muffet encounter, I got the crossbones and papyrus one but still fought sans at the end. How do you get that muffet fight?
@kamera1890
@kamera1890 Ай бұрын
If you do the ruthless route or just an early evacuation route this fight should appear.
@Bengt2509
@Bengt2509 Ай бұрын
@@kamera1890oh so the reason I got sans and papyrus is because I did a late evacuation route? I started ruthless in starlight isles instead of ending one in ruined home
@kamera1890
@kamera1890 Ай бұрын
@@Bengt2509 Yea if you start evacuation in starlight isles you won’t get the unique muffet encounter
@Tafdewq
@Tafdewq Ай бұрын
Mother I am famous :;]
@Alt_DiegoBrando
@Alt_DiegoBrando Ай бұрын
And the Chara agenda spreads.
@justunder2765
@justunder2765 Ай бұрын
8:04 I think is Frisk
@kamera1890
@kamera1890 Ай бұрын
It’s definitely left pretty vague currently, but I don’t think it’s Frisk. All of the current overwritten dialogues are about either progression or “needing to see” what happens, and these line up extremely well with the player.
@Emily-xk2du
@Emily-xk2du Ай бұрын
Thank you for the video! I went all chin-hands listening, love listening to thoughtful analysis of Chara (my favorite UTDR character) and TS!Underswap Chara (my favorite take on them in any fangame/most fanworks I've seen). You picked up on a bunch of cool details and presented some cool theories! What I really love about TSUS Chara is how they allowed to be a KID first and foremost, instead of A) a stabby stabby demon who thinks about literally nothing other than killing, B) overfocusing on making them a bad/flawed person, or C) making them a standoffish tsundere. Like... c'mon. Does ANY of that sound like someone Asriel would enjoy hanging out with and laughing with?? They have to have A Personality for all that. :P Team Switched did SUCH a good job on capturing NarraChara's voice (which I 100% believe for Undertale, it fits too well and it not being true creates some really weird unanswered question about odd things in the narration) and also for teasing out interesting, colorful ways to illustrate their personality and make them a really vibrant, goofy lil protagonist! I love the sketchbook and their drawing habits in the Sans fight and Koffin K's walls, golden flowers having such meaning to them as a place of peace, them being such a little dramatic troll, like all of it is so dang good!! We eatin' so good with this one! As a Chara fan, I couldn't be happier with the work they've done, it really feels like the fangame I've been waiting for for years! :))
@kamera1890
@kamera1890 Ай бұрын
I agree!
@sambuujargalsaihan6101
@sambuujargalsaihan6101 Ай бұрын
What about undertale red and yellow
@kamera1890
@kamera1890 Ай бұрын
I don’t really like how Undertale RnY portrays Chara. The pessimistic personality they have, especially in the pacifist route, just doesn’t really work for me.
@matti.8465
@matti.8465 Ай бұрын
I like how Frisk's influence is portrayed here. Chara would be happy to stay with Asgore or with the skeletons, but Frisk's determination to leave is forcing them to keep going. Chara was swapped with Frisk. In Undertale Chara's influence is limited to the narrating. In Underswap that influence is based on the determination to leace the underground that defines Frisk.
@AlexIsHere001
@AlexIsHere001 Ай бұрын
Underated
@AlexIsHere001
@AlexIsHere001 Ай бұрын
You deserve way more subs
@therealestcupheadonyt
@therealestcupheadonyt Ай бұрын
chara in nihilism:
@Alt_DiegoBrando
@Alt_DiegoBrando 21 күн бұрын
Mid tbh
@BunnyAndAstorus-rx3vq
@BunnyAndAstorus-rx3vq Ай бұрын
what about undertale yellow?
@kamera1890
@kamera1890 Ай бұрын
I don’t have too much to say on it compared to TS!Underswap but if I do make more videos I might try to create something for it :)
@BunnyAndAstorus-rx3vq
@BunnyAndAstorus-rx3vq Ай бұрын
@@kamera1890 Thank you!!!!!!
@Bearman851
@Bearman851 Ай бұрын
I'd say what is pushing Chara forward is who they were swapped with. They were swapped with Frisk, and Frisk always persist. Frisk's determination to move forward is why Chara is always forced to move forward. Even when we, the player, are trying to choose options Chara wants, like the "I want to stay here" changing to the question of how to leave.
@Alt_DiegoBrando
@Alt_DiegoBrando Ай бұрын
I don't agree in all honesty, considering that everything seems to be rather implied that it's the player due to the fact that when you do Ruthless and approach Larry and Harry, they mention they don't have a soul, prompting Chara to question their own "Soul", it makes it seem that it's an outside force rather than Frisk themselves.
@darkcode4044
@darkcode4044 Ай бұрын
Ive gotta try that evacuation route
@roysparkizay
@roysparkizay Ай бұрын
haven't played it, but good video. from watching, i think ts!underswap handles chara better than almost all other fanworks, but i think some extensions of their character and personality aren't too accurate in the context of them in undertale. i still like how they're treated though, i'm surprised at how well they're written
@notpearl3590
@notpearl3590 Ай бұрын
Just curious, but why do you call Mettacrit "Mettalot"?
@kamera1890
@kamera1890 Ай бұрын
There's no official patch for this yet but the name has been changed by Team Switched, and this should be in the 2.0.6 patch of the game when that is released. If you want to know more about it read here: x.com/TSwitched/status/1770208769428906053
@notpearl3590
@notpearl3590 Ай бұрын
@@kamera1890 Thanks for letting me know. I really like the video BTW!
@someoneandsomeone3251
@someoneandsomeone3251 Ай бұрын
8:06 i think i find it obvious that it's Frisk, maybe not all of our actions but were definetly not the ones overwriting Chara's options, remind you that it was Frisk choice to leave the Ruins in the original undertale. While Chara just wants to stay. Maybe it's both Frisk and the Player, but Chara is mostly bothered by Frisk as were just moving Chara forward. Ah and, it's pretty much easy to say that the order of the fallen children was swapped, Justice was the one before Frisk in the original, and TS!Underswap we find their gun and cowboy hat in Ruined Home. So it's easy to tell they were the second after the first one. Who was the before Justice? Frisk.
@kamera1890
@kamera1890 Ай бұрын
I can't deny the idea although I haven't seen much backing to it. For the argument of it being Frisk's choice to leave the ruins, I mean I guess? But also, so did all of the other fallen humans. So if we use this argument then the patience soul is equally as likely to be influencing Chara's actions as Frisk is. As for the second part of this comment, that Frisk is the first fallen human... I agree that they are the first, that is strongly implied; This doesn't have much correlation with if they're influencing Chara's actions though or even have a similar role to them as Chara did in Undertale because their origins are basically unknown to us at this point. There's no hard proof for anything but I just think it makes the most sense to be the player, all of the dialogue options that can be overwritten currently are aligned with what the player would say. The compassion route choices always focus on the entity's desire to move forward, like how any player playing a video game would. The ruthless route's overwritten dialogue has focus on the entity's need to see what happens, which again, is in line with how most players play these darker routes in the first place.
@someoneandsomeone3251
@someoneandsomeone3251 Ай бұрын
@@kamera1890 i mean, there's the whole "re-awaken by your determination thingy" so who knows if Frisk is taking the role of the original Chara in a different way in this au, just because the other fallen human wanted to leave it doesnt necessarely mean they're spooky ghosts that are following Chara. -tho i would definetly love that one day when the full game comes out there will be a TS!Underswap Cyan-
@usermcskull4713
@usermcskull4713 Ай бұрын
4:54 i've played through this game so many times and yet this is the first time ive seen this phone call lol
@kamera1890
@kamera1890 Ай бұрын
There’s some other cute phone calls both in Ruined Home and Starlight Isles
@xSkysilver
@xSkysilver Ай бұрын
TS Underswap is the chara before UT cannon
@NotTSUnderswapChara
@NotTSUnderswapChara Ай бұрын
Wow. I didn't know I had so many fans.
@baxelbox313
@baxelbox313 Ай бұрын
dunno about NotTsUnderswapChara but tsunderswapChara sure does have alot
@NotTSUnderswapChara
@NotTSUnderswapChara Ай бұрын
@@baxelbox313 I'm definitely them I promise.
@itsniqilisitsme4701
@itsniqilisitsme4701 Ай бұрын
Did you live the fall at the end of the elevator
@NotTSUnderswapChara
@NotTSUnderswapChara Ай бұрын
@@itsniqilisitsme4701 The flower saved me.
@TheHoppyOfHopscotch
@TheHoppyOfHopscotch 25 күн бұрын
Holy shit Chara TSUnderswap??
@protol5683
@protol5683 Ай бұрын
I agree with your assumption that Chara considers Crossbones “Eradicated” just to ease their own mind about ever encountering him again, but I also have this second, alternative theory in my head that makes Chara sound a little more in control of their mind. Perhaps Chara doesn’t mean that they killed Crossbones the person, but rather Crossbones the persona. As in, Chara assumes that Sans won’t ever assume the identity of Crossbones again after this, either because there’s no point in putting on the whole act in a time like this anymore, or because his reputation has been ruined by failing to stop the human. It’d match the superhero theming somewhat from a meta level, there’s tons of comic stories where the hero takes a huge defeat or gets humiliated in some way and stops being a hero for a while. Also it’s just really funny to think that Chara considers Crossbones eradicated because they destroyed him in the free market of ideas.
@kamera1890
@kamera1890 Ай бұрын
Honestly this is a pretty interesting idea! I think both could be true to some degree.
@yourfathersinferioritycomplex
@yourfathersinferioritycomplex Ай бұрын
Thats gonna be super interesting to see develop later on, i just really really REALLY hope sans isnt the final boss of the ruthless route
@kamera1890
@kamera1890 Ай бұрын
@@yourfathersinferioritycomplex To be fair it probably won’t be Crossbones for the final boss; It’ll likely either be Papyrus or maybe even the Temmies depending on how things go.
@basedguy.4229
@basedguy.4229 Ай бұрын
PEAK!!!!
@kamera1890
@kamera1890 Ай бұрын
Thank you Mr KZbinr, your content is also great ❤