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If you count total prep time and startup time the SVEA 123 wins every time. I live in a place without many trees or thick growth, just a lot of grass and weeds that isn’t good enough fuel for cooking so I have the SVEA. When hunting in areas with forests I will use wood unless there is a burn ban in place and then you will have to use a gas fuel stove just like you explained in your excellent video with the exception of your biased objectively and unfair opinion.

Nice video ❤

I have both stoves, but usually only take the Toaks with a backup alcohol stove for when the environment is wet. Used it from Arizona, through Canada and Alaska and has not failed me. Thanks for the video and comparison.

Love it!

Looked delicious! I have a small Toaks stove. I use about a handful of pellets to boil up 16 oz. of water. I light it with fire gel. It works great.

So, wood pellets make great coals but little flame. Sticks make great flame but take a bit to make a bed of coals. Could a combination of pellets and sticks optimize burning? Sticks to provide the flame, pellets to hold the heat? Say a 60/40 or maybe 70/30 mix of sticks to pellets. You'd still have ash to deal with. When the bacon caught fire and a helpful tree dropped some snow on it I was reminded of "To Build a Fire" --Jack London americanenglish.state.gov/files/ae/resource_files/to-build-a-fire.pdf

Great way to spend a day.

There are yt videos showing gasifier twig stoves burning wood pellets no problem. Boiling water in 13 1/2 minutes. One easy way to start it is with a cotton ball with vaseline on it.

Nice to see 👀👀👀 the 'three' of you enjoy the outdoors snow. ❤❤❤

So I drilled out a few of the holes in the bottom to like 5/16", then half of them to about 1/4" in the bottom of my toaks... After I did that I haven't had a problem with the ash smothering out the bottom air holes. It works great with pellets now you get perfect gasification.

Great information about this little stove. Thank you for making the video.

Great idea!

nice upbeat vibe .... dood

Amazing! I love how the top down fire burns long.

Great information. I liked your epiphany 😊 I’m in the US and just found that exact stove on e-bay *ohuhu brand* for just a cent under twenty u$d - to my door. This might help others

I've enjoyed your video on old stoves. I just purchased a svea 123 and I'm going to campare it to my coleman 400B.

Petey loves the snow like my Tucker. I know what you mean by trying to keep the tenting location a secret, meanwhile I'm going to have to move next year because I'm having to compete with the space with Coyote trappers , it's no issue for me but I don't want Tucker getting into snares, Seems Petey gets snow balls like my old dog , luckily the dog I have now has short fur and they don't build up as much. I build a in between fire I put the base of logs or two down then my ignition and then go up sort of a sandwich style. You have definitely perfected your method , great job. The distinctive sound of a wood pecker can't be mistaken. Stay safe stay warm

Love Petey the abominable snow dog.❤ I use these type of fires all the time when snowshoeing .just built a base first out of long green logs to keep it from sinking so far down. Reusable camp for bushcraft .👍

Interesting, I was taught to use a top down fire in a log burner stove and similar for a couple of reasons. Firstly it is easier, you don't need to keep putting logs on as you build a fire, it just burns all the way down. Secondly heating the logs underneath releases gasses in the wood that then get burnt by the fire above, creating less smoke and not wasting combustible gasses going up the chimney. Similar concept to secondary burn wood stoves I suppose.

I've used these and they work great. Long lasting, and they get the fire off the ground. I like my pit fires. A 15" long trench that I can lay a grate or a couple of green sticks over to cook on. Dug deep enough that I can put a small log base under them. They extinguish easily. Can't always dig tho'. Top of the ground fires, for me, are always built on a log base. All three make it easy to control draft. The pit, dug cross wind, is best in a good wind. Potstickers?? Yum!!!!

The svea excells above the tree line it's nickname is the mountaineer where there are no twigs and butane burns badly the svea will work well as always horses for courses

I love my Firebox Nano Steel stoves, I am too cheap to splurge for the titanium version but the ability to use wood, alcohol (with the Trangia burner) or solid fuel is pretty awesome and it packs flat. Hello from North Central Alberta!

👍👍👍 .. a nice blast from the past. I have the Optimus 8R Hunter .. bought new in the latter '70's and still in use .. love it! The 8R and the 123, the burner mechanisms are much of a muchness, so boil times should be similar .. the deciding factor possibly being insulation / isolation from cold and wind. The Primus looks very much the same which is not surprising, considering their genealogy. Three units well worth keeping, cleaning up and using for the next 50 years 😊. Thanks for sharing ..

What fat were you using? Looked like lard, I love cooking with lard.

Thank you for the evaluation of the pskook stove. You make some very good points. The one about size too big for one pot, not big enough for two, is a great factor to add to my list for stoves in general. You can build a fire on a welding mat, so any stove works well on it too. The mat keeps things from burning the ground. I learned to cook on a wood stove and something I notice with almost all "backpacking" stoves is that they're all heat source. With a wood stove you control the heat, partially, by moving what you're cooking toward or away from the heat source. Either the pot stand or barbecue grill in a larger than the stove top size should give you room to control heat this way. Your bannock wouldn't show hotspots. :-) It would need windscreen, and support. An aluminum foil roasting pan might fit the bill.

I think Petey has the most fun with these outings. Like the cookpot setup looks like it works well .just bought a little foldup stove.Alot of fun . easy to use and packs up nice.feels right to use wood instead of camping fuel.thanks for the video

Larry Livingston would be proud of you.

I think the trick to this is seperating the 4 pieces (3 pieces in this case lol) with small sticks, like pencil sized or so then fill the center with wood shavings or birch bark and it should go like you want. Granted you might just have to mess with it some more to get the results your looking for, but seems its getting better every time. Thanks for showing!

what was the temperature there?

Sweet. Nicely groomed thx! I will ride up there on my Fat bike about 4 hr round trip. I’ve had good luck with lighter and longer tabogans placing my pack so the straps stick out. That way you can carry pack and tabogan on your back.

Always love your videos. Creeks sure are running early this year. Haven't spent a lot of time in the Bonnington area - but would love to visit. Thanks for sharing.

LOL You cheated with the SVEA, warming it on the woodstove to pressurize it. You're supposed to go outside and freeze while the SVEA warms and builds pressure!!!! I would have done the same thing if I'd thought of it. I envy you the hut. It looks great. And the views are gorgeous. As to how long I would stay if I could, 'till my food ran out.

Great vidio.looked like a bit of a slog into there.yes i would and have stayed in alot of cabins. They need a wider bridge 😊

hey that waz a nice video amazing view too, cant wait see more adventurre lets push the channel Peace

Great video. Different tools for different applications. You didn’t try to convince everyone that you are right and that they are wrong. Use what you like, but get out there and enjoy without trying to prove anything. Thanks

I did the swedish torch in a couple style twig stoves and they worked fine. Didn't try on the gasification style yet.

Very nice video looked like ure at home in the forest. Also nice Illuminati sign, eye trough the triangle of the swedish torch , LOL im sure its not what u were shooting for but still funny

Yep, I use a loper, a twig loper. I cut them to fit just below the lip of my twig stove. Then bundle them with a fire starter inside…PERFECT. THANK YOU for sharing, from East Tennessee

It took one (1) of your videos, prompting me to subscribe. You feature many things that we work on perfecting at our home base. The big difference is that I relocated from the northeast US halfway around the globe to SE Asia. I have not used a snow shovel in over twelve (12) years. Finding dry materials to build a fire is always a challenge in our high-humidity environment. May I ask a question about your titanium stove? Have you ever experienced a failure at the bottom of the burn chamber? We enjoy our stainless gasifiers. The metal is a bit on the thin side and apparently not the best quality. After regular use, the deteriorated bottom of the burn chamber falls apart. We like these units so much we are willing to spend more for better quality if the stoves will be with us for the long haul. Good job on this presentation. We are watching from our "secret retirement location" in Bulacan province, on Luzon Island, in the Republic of the Philippine Islands. Now, time to whack that subscribe button.

Finally, someone who knows how to lite a gasifier! I can get 45 minutes of useful burnout of mine when loaded properly. Good demo.

I have the lixada version of the toaks stove. It’s a bit smaller, if I remember only 3/4” smaller. I don’t particularly care for it. It needs more air to breathe, but it also needs fuel-more fuel in my opinion than the unit will hold. On the other hand, you can use the middle and bottom pieces alone with your alcohol stove and that will work as an excellent windscreen for the alcohol stove .

Good job bro ❤ subscribed

Too many axes. Isn't that like having too many screwdrivers, wrenches, or 10mm sockets

new sub here looks like you are just NW of me I am south of Fernie in Northern MT. I go up there and fly fish a few times throughout the year. Gorgeous area.

That bannock looked great!!! Been curious about the Toaks stove. This was a great idea to demonstrate what else it can do (besides burn sticks). Would tying the round of wood you made with cotton string help? Or using a bit of butter in the center of the Swedish Torch as an accelerant?

I'm quite enjoying these videos Back 40 Bushcraft! Learning lots!

rock and roll dood

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You need more axes, not fewer. Maybe a sweet little Walter’s shaped down to be a bearded hatchet… ;)