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@tubedude54
@tubedude54 Күн бұрын
I'm currently building a shed and haven't gotten to the roof yet... this will make it so much easier! Is there a recommended size of lumber for roof rafters vs pitch?
@RoofFramersBible
@RoofFramersBible Күн бұрын
The thing that determines the rafter size is the structural capacity for a given horizontal run of the rafter. The pitch or slope only has a limited impact on the decision. For limited spans such as on a shed, they would generally be 2x6's, but if it is small enough you may be OK with 2x4's.
@aaronj9208
@aaronj9208 3 күн бұрын
Hello Mr Mussell Would you pls consider doing a bay window example with the roof framers bible
@RoofFramersBible
@RoofFramersBible Күн бұрын
I need to do that. Thanks for bringing that to my attention. Thanks for watching!
@leonperez9612
@leonperez9612 3 күн бұрын
This is probably a dumb question but I’m having a hard time understanding rise. How do you figure out rise? I noticed in the video you already started with 8/12. But how did you get 8 rise? Does it just depend on how steep you want a roof to be? Do I just pick a common pitch and go with that?
@RoofFramersBible
@RoofFramersBible Күн бұрын
Yep. You just decide how steep a roof you want. Often of course, the architects will make that decision for you and specify on the plans what pitch is desired. I just picked the 8/12 for demonstration purposes. Thanks for watching!
@waynecharlton954
@waynecharlton954 5 күн бұрын
Got the roof framers Bible brilliant book
@RoofFramersBible
@RoofFramersBible 4 күн бұрын
Glad you like it, and thanks for watching!
@martinadams6067
@martinadams6067 5 күн бұрын
I'm very surprised you didn't use a string in your illustrations. Loved the video and the fantastic information. Where can I get a roof framers bible?
@RoofFramersBible
@RoofFramersBible 5 күн бұрын
Glad you liked it. You can order a book by going to roofbible.com. Thanks for watching!
@jayleeper1512
@jayleeper1512 5 күн бұрын
A dollar store calculator and A squared plus B squared equals C squared ( Pythagorean Theory), you can figure out any rafter easily. When I apprenticed in Canada decades ago, I was told that the Birds Mouth represented a nagging wife’s ( a bird in English slang) mouth wide open and screaming at her poor, henpecked carpenter husband. The old carpenter that told me that was an ancient immigrant from England. It made sense to me after I met his wife. 😂
@RoofFramersBible
@RoofFramersBible 5 күн бұрын
That is too funny! I never heard that before. Thanks for watching!
@betodruid4422
@betodruid4422 7 күн бұрын
Grand Pa, teach me carpentry please, I need to learn how to build whole houses, what a privilege that would be, thanks for your videos !
@RoofFramersBible
@RoofFramersBible 7 күн бұрын
There is little more satisfying than building a whole house yourself. We may do that on video someday. Thanks for watching!
@pcer9973
@pcer9973 7 күн бұрын
The comments are comical 😂! I just spent an hour rewinding the video and going through it. The guy did a great job explaining things, especially if you have zero roofing experience. If you made it past the 5th grade and aren't complete idiot, this shouldn't be hard for you to understand. If you read this comment, good sir, what pitch would you recommend ( none snowy area) for a chicken coop 4x6 the run being 3ft? Look at me, go 😂! Thank you for everything.
@RoofFramersBible
@RoofFramersBible 7 күн бұрын
The best pitch would depend on several things. If you are using a shingle roof you don't want to be flatter than a 3/12 pitch. A metal roof can be as flat as 1/12 without any issues. A steeper pitch usually is more attractive in appearance. It would also give you higher head height in the coop. So, it all depends on what you are trying to achieve. I hope this helps. Thanks for watching!
@fergferguson7370
@fergferguson7370 Күн бұрын
Yes
@katieb6389
@katieb6389 9 күн бұрын
Great video.
@RoofFramersBible
@RoofFramersBible 8 күн бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it. Thanks for watching!
@af4265
@af4265 10 күн бұрын
Great to see a roof being made without a single cut
@RoofFramersBible
@RoofFramersBible 9 күн бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@ActionEar
@ActionEar 10 күн бұрын
After watching your excellent video, I want to build a 3 sided hip roof over half of my new 20x20’ deck - instead of the planned gable roof extension of the house’s gable roof - but have so many questions. I see you’re very responsive, maybe you’d entertain a few? In the video there are no columns, and the ridge beam appears to be held up only by the rafters. Is this common? Doesn’t having no columns put extreme outward pressure on the walls? Would having no columns holding up the ridge beam be suitable for a deck roof where uplift from strong winds will get under the roof? I’m very curious in how to best connect all the rafters where they meet at the ridge beam. It appears you used only nails and no metal fasteners (e.g. Simpson Strongtie). Does the video show the finished structure or would you typically go back in and add rafter hangers, hurricane ties, straps over the ridge and/or other metal connectors? Can the hip roof have the same vaulted/cathedral ceiling inside as a gable roof? Thanks from S. Ohio.
@RoofFramersBible
@RoofFramersBible 10 күн бұрын
Those are some very perceptive questions. The model in the video is just a temporary mockup. Typically a "stick-built" hip roof would have struts under the ends of the ridge, hips, valleys, etc. However, for some roof configurations, you can eliminate those struts if you have proper ceiling joist ties across the structure. As you correctly note, the walls would push out without them. An open structure would need some uplift resistance. How much would depend on your wind zone. The same is true for the rafter connections. In many wind zones nailed connections are all that is required. Typically hip roofs cannot be vaulted without some type of ceiling tie. Normally you would need either ceiling joists, or perhaps timber trusses to support those points as the end of the ridge. Sometimes people will use steel rods across the structure to furnish the ceiling tie. My limited video presentation obviously can't cover all structural variations. I wish I could give exact answers to your questions, but there are simply too many variables: the size of the structure, the pitch of the roof, the wind zone. the design loads (snow loads etc.), the type of framing material used, and many others. I hope this answers some of your questions. Thanks for watching!
@ActionEar
@ActionEar 9 күн бұрын
@@RoofFramersBible Thanks Barry - This is very helpful!
@mypadmi8656
@mypadmi8656 11 күн бұрын
Thanks for nothing 😂
@RoofFramersBible
@RoofFramersBible 11 күн бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@edwardbright9434
@edwardbright9434 15 күн бұрын
thnks for infro i learned a lot
@RoofFramersBible
@RoofFramersBible 14 күн бұрын
Glad you benefited. Thanks for watching!
@TylerJohnson-li8yt
@TylerJohnson-li8yt 18 күн бұрын
When cutting your rafters, why did you take an extra 1/8th inch off? If that length was 57-3/4”, and you subtracted the 3/4 for half of the ridge thickness, that would be 57”. Just wondering what the extra 1/8 was for.
@RoofFramersBible
@RoofFramersBible 16 күн бұрын
The 3/4" is the horizontal run of 1/2 of the ridge thickness. Measuring along the slope of the 8/12 rafter is 7/8". The values in the charts are rounded to the nearest 1/8". Thanks for watching!
@nicholasgranat2999
@nicholasgranat2999 23 күн бұрын
Very useful ,you are an excellent instructor!
@RoofFramersBible
@RoofFramersBible 23 күн бұрын
Thank you sir. Thanks for watching!
@nicholasgranat2999
@nicholasgranat2999 23 күн бұрын
👍🏼
@RoofFramersBible
@RoofFramersBible 23 күн бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@georgerlopez1984
@georgerlopez1984 25 күн бұрын
I just purchased your book this weekend. Cant wait to use it!
@RoofFramersBible
@RoofFramersBible 25 күн бұрын
Great! Thanks for watching.
@jamesoncross7494
@jamesoncross7494 26 күн бұрын
I'm sorry, I was starring at Anna, could you repeat that? ;)
@RoofFramersBible
@RoofFramersBible 26 күн бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@andrenabhan2186
@andrenabhan2186 27 күн бұрын
Could you please change the name from bible to rules bible is for prayer,
@RoofFramersBible
@RoofFramersBible 26 күн бұрын
I have heard that from time to time. The word bible just means book, so the Holy Bible is the holy book. In modern usage bible is used to signify "the comprehensive reference". That is what I wanted Roof Framer's Bible to be, the comprehensive reference to all thinks roof framing. Thanks for watching!
@Darth---Vader
@Darth---Vader 29 күн бұрын
thanks
@RoofFramersBible
@RoofFramersBible 29 күн бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@koreatownhuligan4529
@koreatownhuligan4529 Ай бұрын
so the run of the rafter is 1" foot long and the rise is 8 inches, but the span of the house is 8" feet but the run is 4" feet. so do we have two different runs? one counting for the rafter and one counting for half of the span of the house?
@RoofFramersBible
@RoofFramersBible Ай бұрын
No. In our example the rafter run is 4', or half the span. The pitch is designated per one foot of run, so in one foot of run the rafter rises 8". The actual run of the common rafter is 4'. Thanks for watching!
@victorialoud8443
@victorialoud8443 Ай бұрын
Love, love, love, your presentation! Really entertaining, friendly❤ and informative.
@RoofFramersBible
@RoofFramersBible Ай бұрын
We're glad you enjoyed it. Thanks for watching!
@narragopichand9982
@narragopichand9982 Ай бұрын
Why don’t you cut the birds mouth of hip rafter with thickness of the wall as you did in the previous video on common rafter ?
@RoofFramersBible
@RoofFramersBible Ай бұрын
Because the H.A.P. of the hip must be the same as the H.A.P. of the common. As you say, the birdsmouth (and therefore the H.A.P.) of the common is set by the width of the wall plate. For the top of the hip rafter to plane out with the commons on each side, the H.A.P. of the hip must match that of the commons. Since the hip is a different pitch, using the H.A.P. of the common makes the seat cut longer than that of the common. Thanks for your interest and thanks for watching!
@narragopichand9982
@narragopichand9982 Ай бұрын
@@RoofFramersBible Got it, cheers, pls keep doing it, I may enrol in a trade school and your videos will be more helpful.
@RoofFramersBible
@RoofFramersBible Ай бұрын
@@narragopichand9982 Good luck. Thanks for watching!
@nasha952
@nasha952 Ай бұрын
Thanks for the confusion
@RoofFramersBible
@RoofFramersBible Ай бұрын
Thanks for watching! Sorry if you were confused. If you are totally new to roof framing it can take a while to get comfortable with it.
@sledgehammer7998
@sledgehammer7998 Ай бұрын
@@RoofFramersBible I have looked at this video many times and at certain parts you do explain the info on a beginners level, but then you go off into an advanced level where someone who is familiar with this will understand. In the drawing that you have in the video the numbers do not add up, that's where its more confusing than helping. If you present the drawing to a person that has never cut a rafter before it will not make any sense to them. Most of the videos out there throw numbers at you but never explain how they got to the numbers. In your drawing the numbers on the left bottom does not match up with the numbers on top, then on the right the same applies. I like the video and how its presented but I still don't know how to cut a rafter since the numbers don't add up. How can 5' on the bottom left add up to 72-1/8" on the bottom top? Even if you add in 32" for the rise that adds up to 104-1/8". On the right side its the same the numbers are off.
@RoofFramersBible
@RoofFramersBible Ай бұрын
@@sledgehammer7998 The 5' on the left is run, or a horizontal dimension. The 72 1/8" overall dimension on the right is measured along the slope of the rafter and is therefore longer. The run dimensions and the rafter dimensions are never the same. New concepts are often confusing. Just take it one piece at a time and you'll have it in no time. Thanks for watching!
@melvis2017
@melvis2017 9 күн бұрын
And its for beginners
@aliaksandrslivinski5741
@aliaksandrslivinski5741 Ай бұрын
@RoofFramersBible
@RoofFramersBible Ай бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@seven73ify
@seven73ify Ай бұрын
Got this book its okay but its not for beginners like it says, the blue book is better.
@RoofFramersBible
@RoofFramersBible Ай бұрын
Without a doubt, bastard hip roofs are not for the beginner. The "blue book" that comes with a speed square is useful for simple roofs, but of course has no info for bastard roofs. Thanks for watching!
@MawethuMalamela
@MawethuMalamela Ай бұрын
How do you get the height of the Ridge from the wall level
@RoofFramersBible
@RoofFramersBible Ай бұрын
It is an easy calculation. You use the common rafter run to calculate the rise. Now this rise is along the top of the rafter, so you will need to add the H.A.P. (height above plate) When you cut the birdsmouth, the H.A.P. is the distance from the wall plate up to the top of the rafter at the outside edge of the wall. If you watch my video - Beginner's Guide to Roof Framing, it explains that in detail. Thanks for watching!
@MawethuMalamela
@MawethuMalamela Ай бұрын
Hi sir how do you get the high of the roof
@ARL-LifesLessons.-nk4fd
@ARL-LifesLessons.-nk4fd Ай бұрын
Best tutorial on cutting rafters seat cut etc.
@RoofFramersBible
@RoofFramersBible Ай бұрын
I'm glad you liked it. Thanks for watching!
@stanleykania7184
@stanleykania7184 Ай бұрын
Cool
@RoofFramersBible
@RoofFramersBible Ай бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@mwworkman
@mwworkman Ай бұрын
Great video! Thank you for the detailed explanation ... all the way down the rafter, every cut and how to accomplish that. You should write a book. Wait! You already did, ha ha. Thanks again.
@RoofFramersBible
@RoofFramersBible Ай бұрын
Glad you liked it. Thanks for watching!
@bch5513
@bch5513 Ай бұрын
Your plans nor your comments covered exactly where to drill ( measurements) for the hole at the rear to put in the bolt to the wheels. I've looked extensively and can't find it
@RoofFramersBible
@RoofFramersBible Ай бұрын
It is shown on sheet 12 of the plans. It is a 1/2" hole, 7" down from the top and 1 3/4" from the back.
@GAMERBOY-ez2ls
@GAMERBOY-ez2ls Ай бұрын
My favorite one on this subject!
@RoofFramersBible
@RoofFramersBible Ай бұрын
Great! Thanks for watching!
@karolchudy5343
@karolchudy5343 Ай бұрын
Great teaching
@RoofFramersBible
@RoofFramersBible Ай бұрын
Glad it was helpful. Thanks for watching!
@blaess8660
@blaess8660 Ай бұрын
Confused on how to measure the hip tail using the factor chart. You pulled up 24 3/4" from the tail. Where did you get that number?
@RoofFramersBible
@RoofFramersBible Ай бұрын
The factor chart allows you to quickly go from the value that you have to the value that you need. In the case of the hip tail length we can use the run of the high pitch side to get the length of the hip rafter, or in this case the length of the hip tail. So, since a bastard hip will always cross off of the corner of the wall to the high pitch side, we will use the overhang length (12" in the video) on the high pitch side to enter the factor chart, so 12" x 2.062 = 24.744", or rounded to 24 3/4" for the hip tail. Thanks for watching!
@blaess8660
@blaess8660 Ай бұрын
@@RoofFramersBiblethank you! I get it now, the hip rafter is married to the high pitch side for all its calculations. I’m shortening the over hang on the higher pitch to avoid building up the wall plate. As I’m understanding it, there isn’t anything else to factor when cutting the birds mouth to match the 12” overhang on the shallow pitch, the overhang reduction covers it all? Learning a lot. Thanks again.
@thomasschafer7268
@thomasschafer7268 Ай бұрын
😅😅😅bla bla. 2inch kann man ja auch nicht abgraden. Schwätzer!!👎👎🇩🇪
@kenton6098
@kenton6098 Ай бұрын
So... the king common is NOT the same length as the commons because you don't subtract half the thickness of the ridge... right? Damn good video though, Bud!
@RoofFramersBible
@RoofFramersBible Ай бұрын
There is more than one way to get the job done. Thanks for watching!
@kcm8123
@kcm8123 Ай бұрын
😃😄💯👍🤝💪
@RoofFramersBible
@RoofFramersBible Ай бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@annimclaughlin7520
@annimclaughlin7520 Ай бұрын
Thank you for this incredible video-love how you interact and include your grandkids! Also the plans are well detailed and can awesome resource to making this coop a winner
@RoofFramersBible
@RoofFramersBible Ай бұрын
Thank you! We are really enjoying the stories from people that have built and love their hoop coop!
@robertn2813
@robertn2813 Ай бұрын
As a carpenter of 40 years , I can say confidently that if you use the Roof Framer's Bible to frame EVERY roof , roof framing will become " Mussell " memory (hehe) . See what I did there Barry ? I'm serious folks , it's called a "bible" because it is a "reference" book . Forget about any sacrilegious chatter , the book doesn't besmerch the Holy Bible as some of my co-workers pointed out . The title of the book actually pays homage to the purpose of the Holy Bible in that it should always be at hand , and always be referred to . Buy a copy , and frame your " first ever " perfect roof . Enjoy . Robert from Canada !
@RoofFramersBible
@RoofFramersBible Ай бұрын
That's good Robert. I appreciate the kind words. Yeah, I have gotten that response about "Bible" through the years. Bible really just means "book". So, Holy Bible means Holy book. In modern use Bible has come to mean "the definitive reference". I wanted Roof Framer's Bible to be the definitive reference for roof framing. For 30 years now I think it has a claim to having achieved that. Thanks for watching!
@robertn2813
@robertn2813 Ай бұрын
@@RoofFramersBible No problem brother Barry . Credit where credit is due !!! By the way , we are more than carpenters . We are what I like to call "practical mathematicians" . And the God of carpentry is Pythagoras .
@МихаилАверьянов-ш1в
@МихаилАверьянов-ш1в Ай бұрын
Thanks for video!!!
@RoofFramersBible
@RoofFramersBible Ай бұрын
You're welcome. Thanks for watching!
@michaelchurchill1889
@michaelchurchill1889 Ай бұрын
Nice work, can you explain the side cut table on the framing square?
@MainoLahui
@MainoLahui Ай бұрын
I can say this is the best video i've watched bout building a gable roof. You both have made it very clear through illustration on what tools to use and how to use them..now I can say with confidence that I have a fair idea on how to build a gable roof. Thank you gentleman and Anna for the wonderfull and easy learn video..especially when Anna us involve in asking questions..you both earn my like..
@RoofFramersBible
@RoofFramersBible Ай бұрын
Thank you very much! I appreciate the feedback. Thanks for watching!
@markraymond2221
@markraymond2221 Ай бұрын
hey, Barry......I bought your book and am using it for a project of mine. I have gone over the numbers several times for a regular equal pitched roof.... and measured and remeasured.....The "rise" calculations are either flawed in your book or you didn't give info on how to calculate these...I'm doing a simple 8/12 pitch. My 2-by ridge beam needs to be much higher (about 4 inches higher) than what your book says for my run/rafter length measurements. I've run it over in my brain countless times on how it could be wrong! I have found that bird mouth depth (which depends on top width of top plate/band/top strap framing) will vary, which will, in turn, lower rise height of my ridge beam. The interesting thing about this is that even though my bird mouth is cut for a 3inch wide top plate, my ridge beam is STILL around 4 inches to LOW! I have read through all the instructions in your book (which are very clear) and, like I said, measured and remeasured (and calculated and re-calculated) as well as watched your videos and cannot find a clear explanation on why your listed rise numbers are off by so much? I realize that I could just mount 4 rafters and lift ridge beam into place to match the height of the rafters, but lifting a 16ft treated 2x8 and securing it to dangling rafters isn't ideal when working by myself on this! It is WAY easier to just temporarily mount my ridge beam at the height I need (which I sure wish was in your book) and then attach the rafters to it. If you have any pointers, I'd LOVE to hear them! THANKS!
@RoofFramersBible
@RoofFramersBible Ай бұрын
It sounds like you are not adding in the height of the H.A.P. That is the abbreviation for "height above plate". When I wrote the book 30 years ago that was not a term I used, but is more commonplace now. Some people and some books will talk about the "measuring line" for rafter lengths. They run this from the corner of the plate. I consider this unnecessary confusion. Using the method in my book, the important thing to keep in mind is that the rafter run, and rise, is always figured from the top edge of the rafter. So the rise will be the vertical distance from the top of the rafter at the outside of the plate, and the top of the rafter at the side of the ridge (if you figured the run to the side of the ridge). You will need to add the height distance from the top of the rafter at the outside of the plate line down to the level of the plate (H.A.P.). If you do that you will have a very accurate height for your ridge beam. It isn't possible to provide ridge heights for every scenario in the book, because there are an infinite number of different conditions for the rafter and birdsmouth. It will vary by the width of the framing members, and the depth of the birdsmouth cut. I hope this answers your question. Good luck with your project, and thanks for watching!
@markraymond2221
@markraymond2221 Ай бұрын
@@RoofFramersBible Thank you so much for this explanation! it worked out great!
@RoofFramersBible
@RoofFramersBible Ай бұрын
@@markraymond2221 Good deal!
@troyc333
@troyc333 Ай бұрын
They call it a birdsmouth because the shape is that of a birds mouth opened up. The inverse of that is called the "beak" as it is shaped like a birds beak.
@jayleeper1512
@jayleeper1512 5 күн бұрын
It is a slang term from England. The term “bird” refers to a women or girl. Most old English wives were known for yelling at their poor henpecked husbands and the birds mouth represented a woman’s mouth wide open and screaming. 😂
@chris4321das
@chris4321das Ай бұрын
Great information!
@RoofFramersBible
@RoofFramersBible Ай бұрын
Glad it was helpful. Thanks for watching!
@JoseCruz-r7i
@JoseCruz-r7i Ай бұрын
Thanks for your book, lots of people have benefit from your book, I'm one of them
@JoseCruz-r7i
@JoseCruz-r7i Ай бұрын
You right it is a great book thanks
@JoseCruz-r7i
@JoseCruz-r7i Ай бұрын
Hi, thanks for that book I bought it 24 years ago , did help me alot
@RoofFramersBible
@RoofFramersBible Ай бұрын
That's great! Thanks for watching.
@JoseCruz-r7i
@JoseCruz-r7i Ай бұрын
Thanks very helpful book , as well as your explanations