That's really great advise + an excellent way to save on pipes + increase the pressure! I think any irrigation design should factor in your feedback! My system does something similar in that the main line runs from the pumphouse about hallway down the garden to where the valvebox and timer is located. From there my solenoids feed smaller diameter pipes to the irrigation zones. It's about as close as I can get without leaving an unsightly valve box in the middle of flower beds.

Whereabout are you based? Have you tried online merchants? As example many of my claber sprinkler components I ordered online from abroad. I'm informed utility companies do not use the MDPE inserts but unable to verify that. The manufacturers I checked recommend them to strengthen the connections. Your system will still work without them if needs must - just make sure to test for leaks if installing underground.

Hi Mark, you will use 25mm compression fittings similar to this: geni.us/25mmMDPEtee. Check out our website and you can see some examples of 25mm Pipes & Fittings - www.gettingyourstuffdone.co.uk/shop. Hope this helps 🙂

Great feedback thanks Antonie. Utility companies don't seem to use inserts either, however most manufacturers I checked recommend as it keeps pipes circular to prevent leaks which is why its included. Similarly manufacturers do not bevel these sizes and insert pipes directly into compression fittings as shown in the video. My plumber plier usage is wrong as I was trying to face the camera but didn't realise people would pick up on that - my bad.. Loved the comment on correct tension, thats a nugget. In the UK we use outside diameter for our pipes, so for us blue MDPE 25mm is Outside Diameter - 25mm, Inside Diameter - 20.4mm. My irrigation systems runs on smaller 20mm which has a 15.4mm inside diameter.

Pipe that seals on the outside is measured on the outside (mdpe) Ldpe seals on the inside and measured on the inside

You're correct, recommended depth for a mains supply pipe (utility) would be 750mm, which is just below the frost level. The pipe in this video is actually from my irrigation system which runs off my underground 3400 litre rain-harvesting tank. This pipe is located just below a garden fork or lawn aerator depth to avoid accidental puncture. The irrigation lines have drainage valves fitted to release excess water, which prevents freezing and damage to the pipes. The irrigation system gets turned off over winter.

minimum standard for a water pipe in the ground on private property in NZ is 3-500mm cables are a minimum of 6-800mm

Might be down to cost. I looked into this a bit. Found one chat group where someone mentioned utility companies don't use it, but nothing to say why? Manufacturers & suppliers say you should, but not surprising as they sell the products.

They are not needed for compression fittings and on push fit fitting it acts as a stopper. This video is only half right and the guy is only a handy person not a tradesman as he can't use his tools correctly.

@@antonieoostendorp1616 when I've done my level 2 plumbing in college tears ago, I was thought the plastic pipe always needs insert, especially for compression that would squash and turn to oval when compression fittings are tight if not used. I't wouldn't leak but that's a bad job without and any insurance claim would be void. Mdpe and polybutylene need inserts no matter what connection you are going to use, for several reasons believe me or ask any qualified plumber or plumbing teacher

@@antoniogalluccio4213 Well let me explain something to you, I am working with this product on a Daily Basis , teaching trainees how to install it correctly to the Manufacturers SOP and I also assess these Trainees for their Trade Certificate. PVC is no longer being used or approved except for Drainage, in some countries plumbing is returning to Copper. Polybute has the insert in built to the Crimp fitting as you do not use compression couplers on PB. PB and PVC are not MDPE or the same and I can assure you the manufacturers here do not use or approve inserts as they are not required or needed

Lovely meeting you and thank you for your comments. Very kind!!

As far as I'm aware, Schedule 80 is mainly supplied in North America. I am based in the United Kingdom where Medium-Density Polyethylene (MDPE) pipe is used for underground installations. Nothing cheap about MDPE and compression fittings as it confirms to British standards and it's used here to connect houses underground to mains for the supply of potable (drinking) water. I use MDPE fittings as it's much easier for DIYers like myself to connect than doing solder welds on PVC pipes. It also makes the system much more flexible as the fittings can be easily removed should you wish to maintain, modify or extend the system. Assuming the connects have been made correctly, there's little reason why a system using MDPE should be leaking as mains pressure here is around 3-4 bar. The manufacturers I have checked all recommend tightening their MDPE Fittings with a plastic MDPE fitting wrench, a fittings spanner or a strap wrench. You could also add a Drainage valve to each zone which helps reduce risk of water freezing and expanding which could crack or damage the system during cold periods leading to leaks. Personally I think the drainage valves helps reduce water hammer (pressure shock) when the system turns on as one of my zones does not have one and it jolts alot more which could potentially loosen fitings over time.

PVC is unreliable and expensive. MDPE is a superior product now. If you have made 3 repairs it is the installer who has not installed or repaired it properly, faulty batch of pipe and not bedded or covered correctly

That's amazing!! It's actually the video I'm busy editing to release soon, hopefully get it out this week for you. It's Claber components & timer 👍 Make sure you subscribe & press the bell so you get notified when I post it. I'll get cracking on this for you!

@@gettingstuffdone Many thanks buddy, I'm taking up the challenge to install the irrigation system in my garden which is 1200 Sqm and the bed length of around 120m.🫣🙄 Your videos have given me a real confidence and boost. Many thanks for all your hard work and knowledge sharing.👍👍 Subscribed and looking forward to the next video.😃

​ @Shoaib Cheema Amazing comment & welcome to the channel - Your post has made my day, thank you!! 1200 Sqm - Lovely sized garden 😀. You may want to run pipes round perimeter, easier to replace/ fix leaks without digging up your lawn too much. I already had a channel down the middle for other utilities which is why I jumped the opportunity to install pop-up sprinklers this way. The main line has stepping stones over the top so easy for me to get to. Think I need to start a Facebook group where people can post their progress. Would love to see how you get on with your project. Happy viewing !!

Thank you again for requesting a video. I have just published the video for you covering "How to install Solenoid Valves". Here is the link: kzbin.info/www/bejne/hZSnfKWqmNWYhKc I've covered the Claber Solenoid valves together with all the components you may need to get your system up and running. You can also find links to the products used in the video description. Happy viewing and please drop me a comment there for your thoughts.

@@gettingstuffdone Great video again. 👍👍 Thanks a million for the help and education you are spreading around. 🙏🙏 5 star all-round. ❤️

Awesome!! Good to hear and thanks for letting us know. It's great to get feedback 😀

I have seen it done but depends on how much pressure you have in your system & how wet you want to get while doing it 😂 Ideally turn off the pump or if you're connected to mains, close the stop cock. If you do connect while water is running, I'd suggest undoing the whole fitting and putting the nut and the white clamping ring on the MDPE pipes and then inserting the pipes into the body of the fitting. Then tighten up the nut, dry the connection and ensure there are no leaks.

Thanks. The main problem am facing there is no main valve to close , i have to connect while running. Will try and let you know.

@@ABUNABI2000 is there a main stop cork to the house at the roadside that you can turn off? This is where the water suppliers pipes would cross onto your property and where your water meter would usually be located.

great feedback, thanks for taking the time to respond. Will look into that! 😀

That's good spotting! Sadly the engine died and gifting back to a friend to take on as a project 👍

sure, pop over your question and we'll try find an answer or point you in a direction of someone that can 👍

@@gettingstuffdone w app namber my problem big

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Sir my pump orbit all setting is ok but not water doing to the outside why sir?

@@94news20 Assuming your pump is working correctly, you will need to prime the pump in order for it to draw water. You would also need to ensure the suction hose is filled with water, in addition to the pump casing. If not your pump is likely to switch off automatically if it is just sucking air. This is to prevent the pump overheating when water is not present which acts as a coolant.

My irrigation system runs at a pressure between 3 and 4 bar - at this pressure my MDPE compression fittings leak if they are not properly tightened. The manufacturers I have checked all recommend tightening their MDPE Fittings with a plastic MDPE fitting wrench, a fittings spanner or a strap wrench. Most DIY'ers don't own this, or like myself likely won't want to spend money on a plastic tool that would only be used a few times, which is why I use waterpump pliers. However, I do not tighten too much, so as to strip the plastic thread or damage the plastic nuts.

okay, That's fine. Thanks 😊

Your comment made my day - Thank you!!. I've added a link in the description to a 70/30 sand soil top dressing. Ideally for sand you want to be using sport sand which is washed and graded. That's the fancy stuff they use on sports fields and gold courses and doesn't compress down like other sand. Failing that, builder sand (aka river/ plasters/ mason's sand) or the more courser sharp sand (grit or concrete sand) will get the job done. Just remember sand is inert. It helps for levelling but doesn't add anything to the grass so best to mix with soil to create a top dress.

I shall look into this. Ode to a cut blade.. I like the sound of that 😁

😂 They make a very brief appearance at 00:10 and 1:31. They enjoy being part of this and feel like they've missed out if I record without them 😄

Good question, so how do you do it with 200m of 32mm? That's a whole load of pipe 😀 Back in SA we use to hoist the drum and pull the pipe but I'm not using anything near as big here. This video I'm using 20mm and 25mm thickness with max 50m metre lengths.

There's a few reasons pipes could be leaking: 1) make sure there is a washer inside the coupling in addition to the split ring & retainer nut. Also check if washer may be damaged. This is most likely the reason. 2) use inserts/liners to strengthen joints 3) check if pipe has been inserted deep enough into the connector - Check by removing retainer nut & split-ring, fitting those over the MDPE pipe first and then inserting pipe all the way before replacing the nut & split ring. 4) makes sure pipe is not cut at an angle before inserting it or 5) check if the thread on the connector is stripped in which case you'll need a new one. 6) I have once had a defective connector, manufacturer fault - switched it out and everything was fine. Let me know here if you find the reason 👍

@@gettingstuffdone thank you so much for your detailed info

@@emmanuelrabson5942 My pleasure, to be notified when I post more content/ videos be sure to subscribe and press the little bell 🔔

Hollow tine which creates the soil plugs. Moisture level of the lawn was key as mine is clay. Too wet and the aerator just clogs up, too dry and its more difficult to penetrate the soil. My lawn was heavily compacted so solid spikes would not be as effective and in clay spiked holes tend to close more quickly. (I do however own some Lawn Aerator Spike Shoes but not used in this video).

The little helpers sure do, only problem is my little helpers are growing up far too quickly!! 😂 Glad you enjoyed the pop-up sprikler moment as much as I did. It was pure joy!! 👏

Awesome, thanks for the comment and joining the channel. I checked out your channel Backyard Bushveld, love you mower you dubbed "Frankenstein" and stripes on your lawn. Beautiful!!

Thank you so much. Glad you enjoyed it

My pleasure, glad that helped. Make sure you subscribe for more videos 👍

Just checked out your channel, super fit!! 😁

May depend on regulations in your area. However, 750mm is recommended as this is below the frost level so your pipes don't freeze and burst in winter. My setup is similar coming off mains and running 750mm underground down the garden on a bed of sand. May be worth adding pipe insulation where MDPE pipe runs up to the surface. Happy digging :-)

MDPE Pipe couplers and other fittings can be purchased from any building/ plumbers merchants or trade stores. Best is to shop online if delivery is possible in your area.

It's all about the little helpers - They loved it :-)

Awesome! Thanks for the comment

LOL!! Your ears do not deceive :-) Whereabouts are you from?

Hi Melvin, pump draws from underground 3400 litre watertank through a 7m suction hose with 1inch brass connection. Pump outflow connects to MDPE pipe with a 25mm MDPE x 1inch female BSP fitting. The 25mm MDPE pipe then feeds to 5 solenoid valves controlled by a timer and rain sensor which reduce to 20mm MDPE pipes to irrigate via pop-up sprinklers (5 different controlled zones). Make sure you SUBSRCIBE as I'll be posting a series of videos on how to install the entire system & explain all the fittings.

@@gettingstuffdone thanks so much. Really like your work. Very useful information. Thanks for your reply. I have subscribed and enabled notifications :)

@@BrumGP Awesome thanks! Currently building a twin skin log cabin which is taking a bit longer with all the filming. Hope to edit irrigation footage soon :-)

The MDPE pipe in this video is 20mm used for pop-up sprinkler irrigation. You can check out video below where we use 25mm MDPE pipe from our 3400 litre underground water tank (rain harvesting) to taps and solenoid valves which then reduce to 20mm for the individual irrigation zones. For mains water we use 25mm MDPE pipe. HOW TO CONNECT MDPE FITTINGS - kzbin.info/www/bejne/h3WtY5qLg9qZY7M

@@gettingstuffdone thank

Good spot - I was aware of it and probably should have said something at the time. At 4:06 you can see I use it properly but doing it this way the camera view gets obscured which is why I turned it the other way so people can see what I was doing. Great tip of the insertion depth markings - I'll try remember for the next video - Thanks for your comments! 🙂