Good time!

Thanks!

Thanks! Do you reckon we can push this one to sub minute? I think ideal runs with my strategies would put it at either 1:00 or 0:59 but it's hard to say for sure. Obviously any time you save on L15 with the insane sub 6 runs (if those can be done consistently) really help, and with how L13 starts the run, you could in theory play out a bunch of L13 IL attempts with the 3 switch strategy and drop the run by another 2 seconds (I'm assuming that the ideal run with my strategies here gets around 15.4x but maybe that's unreasonable?)

@@void9720 Lowest possible with the knowledge we have now should be slightly lower than 50 secs, the sum of World Records in all individual runs. 1 minuyte might be manageable but it would require a way better L16 and extremely solid runs on every level.

Thanks! The trick was first discovered and implemented by Hallgro Srell so I imagine it was his run where you first saw it?

Yeah

Acully it was first discovered by me!

@@trysten4144 Well in that case your trick has completely changed the landscape of this level!

@@Gio17 It feels a bit weird. I always knew that two switches could be hit, but I got it with zero consistency and I never really tried it (probably about 2-3 times in 5 years until now). It should also be noted that my old ending to skip resetting on the last switch can be very similar to hitting two switches with one jump. Three switches I hadn’t ever thought about because every time I got two I barely clipped the 2nd one. That WR is totally insane, and to be honest this level is the perfect example of strategic evolution. From KimMinKyum’s solid 19 with essential basic strategies, to my 16.76 with the aforementioned reset skip, to our battles for the first 15 by skipping the third checkpoint area and going down to the ramp. Your incredible clip to the goal for the first 14 and finally the addition of the insane switch section from Hallgro Srell. I actually wouldn’t be at all surprised if sub 12 is barely possible with a 1/1000000 run with the insane 3 switch strategy followed by a clip, and perfect execution everywhere!

It’s a run that’s very similar to the normal Glitchless strategy so there’s a chance a quicker No Checkpoint run happened without realisation because the challenge didn’t exist back then.

@@void9720 Ok

@@Gio17 Your WR is actually a very good template for the ideal NC run. The only thing that needs changing is the way you approach the third checkpoint, which would lose half a second or so to not collect it. With the strategy used, 22 is a fairly good time but 17 or even 16 could be out there for the taking!

@@Gio17 Thanks! I expect you will be able to make a huge impact and a huge dent in time optimisation on these extra categories. I’ll have to give NC a more serious go after I finalise AC.

Damn I didn’t realise this game is nearly 2 years old. This level was very difficult at the time yea.

@@void9720 do you still play ?

@@LUCAzzzz76 I haven’t played in a while, probably not for at least a year.

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100%. This one skips way more of the level than the original. It uses your general modern strategy, like my L29. The multiple seconds bled are just general pace through the level, you are much more efficient with acceleration and holding a high top speed. I think that’s either just rust from me or a drastic level of playing the game more or higher base skill. Either way, I think comparing both L29 and L50 runs shows why you’re the better player!

@@void9720 Thank you so much for the consideration!

Thanks, this one is still probably very improvable but I think at some point it just gets incredibly tedious going for quicker runs (also I have a couple of plans for some other levels I might improve - and one I already have improved but only marginally so hopefully I manage to improve a bit more...)

Thanks! I don’t really know what happened but it seems like I’m on fire right now! I’m not complaining and hope that I can stay on this form for as long as possible…

@@void9720 I wish you keep getting these runs! It's fun to have some competition

I think the last one was L32 22.28 - if I remember correctly. That run itself feels like it was ages ago.

@@void9720 Maybe. I think my first one was a tie with ThePandaEmperor on L6.

Thank you! I always wanted to come back to this one and complete my mission from all those years ago. During my AC run for this level, I actually managed to get a PB with it and so I focused on playing this for quicker and quicker runs. It was only when I finished the 32.87 run that gave me the confidence that a 29 could be done. I then practiced more and more and eventually got the 31, then not long after this run, which surprised me as it was kind of clutch!

Thanks! I think you had similar on your 33 but you failed in a slightly different way. This does prove that at least 30 and been 29 speed is definitely possible and 28 speed is probably possible.

Yeah - I’ve been trying to go a bit further to get a lower bounce but it is incredibly tricky right now for some reason. I might give it a bit more of a go but sub 6 seems totally out of reach for me right now.

@@void9720 The main trick here is going nearly perfectly through the ramp at the start. It is quite boring to grind, but, once you get it, it just saves around a second.

Yeah, I mean I don’t blame anyone for not thinking of this, it is a bit crazy. I tried it because I realised that I was making it to about that distance, and when I was testing this one I actually made the gap on my first bounce. Of course I’m nowhere near 100% consistent but it did help that I fluked it so I always knew it was possible. I failed a lot in order to get a cooler ending which I didn’t actually test (thinking about it I’m not sure why).

@@void9720 I guess just, after hitting the trampoline, bouncing on any slightly high platform and going straight to the finish should do the trick.

Andybest has completed every level under this restriction. A lot of the fastest strategies do skip all checkpoints but I think there are enough levels where the world record doesn’t so that it is a tricky challenge! Thanks, I always love the triple gate skip on this one, I think I’m a lot more consistent than a lot of players with that trick, and for a while it provided me with an edge here!