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@UlissesSampaio 22 күн бұрын
Very cool videos. Do you have more on parrying?
@nyarlathotep47 24 күн бұрын
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@jmbsoutho Ай бұрын
Thanks for this, guys. Enagement with the sources is pretty critical to the practice of HEMA and largely the well known sources have been explored ad nauseam. Especially the early German sources. I like the approach of pressure testing different interpretations and it's an exercise we do in my class when we reach certain points. A week in advance, I'll give the text and tell folks to go develop an interpretation on it and during class time we'll explore what people came up with and how they stack against each other. It helps get that creativity and critical thinking flowing. I also really love using the search functionality on r/wma or facebook groups looking at what y'all discussed way back in the day 10-15 years ago because it provides the context I need to see what didn't work and why. That way, when I see that same issue creeping into current students fencing, I can draw on y'alls discourse and move them past it. No reason to reinvent the wheel every few years.
@RobertRutherfoord Ай бұрын
Cool
@FalseEdgeHEMA Ай бұрын
@1:12:40 Its "no Gods, no Maestros"
@KyleThrush Ай бұрын
Wild crossover episode
@lansinglongswordguild9653 Ай бұрын
that guy's everywhere
@KyleThrush Ай бұрын
What would your next action be if he falls for the feint?
@josiasarcadia Ай бұрын
Or as he demoed, Zucken and keep taking his turn
@thecowboyofscience Ай бұрын
😊Here we are “taking turns.” Sounds a lot like right-of-way ;)
@XSonofArathornX 2 ай бұрын
This was a good breadown/analysis of these types of exchanges. I have a thought to to add thought. I might rather say that the primary weakness of a high plow isn't "broken structure." Rather, the exposure of the hands is what dooms that sort of parry to irrelevance.
@darkenblade986 2 ай бұрын
how is the defender suppose to effectively counter attack in this scenario
@thehistoricalfencingchanne7899 2 ай бұрын
That has more to do with the principles of provoker taker hitter, than it does technique The two options are basically, try and anticipate what your opponent will do when faced with a particular stimulus *before* you offer that stimulus, and then try and get ahead of it. Option 2. Deceive distance to make them commit on a hitter that will not land and immediately take your turn back when the opportunity arises. Otherwise, compel motion before you get that close so you don't get put in the nach. Once you're weak in motion, your responsibility is pull distance and regain a strong position. Attempting to counter attack is irresponsible
@mspina33 2 ай бұрын
We need part 9 - Bogen!!!
@lordllewellynofdarkdelight2613 2 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@lordllewellynofdarkdelight2613 2 ай бұрын
I fixated on reporting the technical fault and forgot to say thank you for the thorough and informative break down.
@lordllewellynofdarkdelight2613 2 ай бұрын
The narration cuts out at 18:32.
@thehistoricalfencingchanne7899 2 ай бұрын
Bizarre. Thank you for pointing it out.
@mikajlod25 2 ай бұрын
big sad
@thehistoricalfencingchanne7899 2 ай бұрын
@mikajlod25 will do a part 2
@folkenkanzaki 2 ай бұрын
@@thehistoricalfencingchanne7899 Can confirm the narration does cut out
@miguelarocazarco5744 2 ай бұрын
This is a master class! I want to see more and more! Where i can find more of your explanations about meyer rapier techniques?
@nate6466 3 ай бұрын
Love it. Thanks for sharing.
@ionlycomment5187 4 ай бұрын
Always love to see Meyer's style practiced with Katzbalger
@cerealterrorist 5 ай бұрын
Great tips, really need to save myself getting bonked on the head!
@JoeYT23 5 ай бұрын
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@sergemarlon 5 ай бұрын
These seem perfect for KZbin shorts. Wish you had more like this in short form.
@sergemarlon 5 ай бұрын
Fancy attack. I'm guessing it's for countering a foot strike?
@TBoneHEMA 2 ай бұрын
Yeah, generally you'd step backwards into though, not forwards, to void the front leg.
@blarpus 6 ай бұрын
I very much see the meyer rapier influence, really cool 👌
@OneHewMan 6 ай бұрын
00:00 Setting Upon (Flying step, Shooting Step) 00:12 Taking in longpoint against weak thrust with bad structure (strengthen with wrist only), Setting indes (Flying Step, Shooting Step, Passing Step) 00:48 Taking in Plow against strong thrust with good structure (withdrawing at elbow, shortening posture), Setting as Vorschlag (Flying Step, Shooting Step, Passing Step) 01:14 Taking in plow during withdrawal, Setting as vorschlag (Flying Step, Shooting Step, Passing Step) 01:40 Setting upon from strength and stillness in the vor (Flying Step, Shooting step). Training partner withdraws and attempts to take in longpoint 02:03 Taking in longpoint against weak thrust, setting indes. Training partner withdraws and attempts to take in longpoint 02:15 Taking in plow, Setting as vorschlag. Training partner withdraws and attempts to take in longpoint 02:26 Taking in plow during withdrawal, Setting as vorschlag (includes nachreissen) Training partner withdraws and attempts to take in longpoint or plow. Other nachreissen could include duplieren, abschneiden, mutieren, zeckrur, etc...
@controllerfreak3596 6 ай бұрын
this suspiciously seems to overlap a lot of what we were just going over in that mini private lesson you gave me yesterday.
@MrDragonedge 6 ай бұрын
I notice this as a common issue on a lot of your videos and it's simply the reverb in your training space makes listening to the audio difficult. The auto cc subtitles KZbin generate aren't the best either.
@thehistoricalfencingchanne7899 6 ай бұрын
Thanks for the input. Unfortunately, a lot of these are recordings made by students who just want to document the lesson. Thanks for checking us out tho. For more detailed content with actually good sound quality, our entire fundamentals curriculum is available on www.truesteeltraining.com/browse-by-category#!/The-Book-of-Five-Words-Volume-I-Complete/p/616743370/category=159739433
@josiasarcadia 6 ай бұрын
Yeah I do my best with the sound editing but I'm going primarily for visual reminder/recording. I'm going to try and get mics over time.
@yakirfrankoveig8094 7 ай бұрын
Someone has some fiore at heart😉
@EconaelGaming 7 ай бұрын
I need an explanation
@KyleThrush 7 ай бұрын
Beautiful fencing! What are some rules/tactics you would suggest to make this kind of fencing work in a club context?
@thehistoricalfencingchanne7899 7 ай бұрын
Mostly, it's strict adherence to knowing who's turn it is to act offensively. Only moving forward when your training partner is in motion, or you have a strong position. Likewise, moving backward when you are weak, weakening. Chosing the correct actions to be done indes. Not going faster than necessary to be done indes. Understanding in a deep way what it means to be strong.
@tatumergo3931 7 ай бұрын
This is what we call in other martial arts, mostly karate-do styles, a study fight. It is not a contest or a free fight, in which your main goal is to gain a strike or point. Here the objective is to give way sort of speak. One would initiate an attack technique, the opponent responds and there might be a counter from the defender, and possibly a counter-counter again. This is a very difficult practice that requires a very high level of mastery, not something for beginners or intermediate students. There also must be a level of trust between each other. Knowing that the other person will not harm you. P. S. In savate there's a similar type of combat called combat de figure, basically a no-contact type of event.
@societyofhistoricalfencing7836 7 ай бұрын
Don't stop, bleiben! Hold on to the feeeeeelin!
@pezyg 7 ай бұрын
Great showcase!
@AEHCESGRIMA 7 ай бұрын
Nice video. Very well explained One question: Schiessen seens like Zonrhau or Zorn ort? I fell it very similar :D
@thehistoricalfencingchanne7899 7 ай бұрын
The schiessen is the first play introduced in all of kdf. It's given to us in the glosses of the pestering strike (tag hit) line in the general teachings section It is different from the zorn in that it is done offensively and aimed at the man, rather than his sword. As such, it can be taken strongly. A zorn on the other hand is a strong taker. It is oriented towardsthe sword rather than the man, and only after a strong position has been achieved is the vor seized.
@HuxleysShaggyDog 7 ай бұрын
Why isn't this used much with Sabre? Were such techniques just lost or are they not useful? Or was sabre more about direct militaristic use and not what Meyer was doing?
@luskarian4055 8 ай бұрын
Meyer's Dussack :3
@jowaru5545 8 ай бұрын
I really like how in depth you go on the technical and mecanical part of fencing. Its is just sometimes really hard to understand, what your are saying, due to the lackluster audio quality.
@JoeYT23 8 ай бұрын
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@DanielGuerreroblossfechter 8 ай бұрын
👏🏻 great
@mikajlod25 8 ай бұрын
So, You Schiessen when the opponent just starts weakening?
@JoeYT23 8 ай бұрын
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@SupremeCommanderGray 9 ай бұрын
1:29 that foot placement diagram needs a bit more
@effectivemelody 10 ай бұрын
Thanks. I now understand the importance of the elbow position. Am new to fencing
@danevans5075 11 ай бұрын
Would you recommend adding these options into frequens motus 'routinely', or keeping this version with hits as a separate game from the more 'classic' frequens motus that focuses on strength and weakness to the sword?
@seamusinmusic 11 ай бұрын
There are skills targeted in standard FM that are unique to the og game: Working indes with strong takers to better develop timing of blade and feet/body moving from zufechten -> kreig Maintenance of zucken/durchwechseln chops Identifying when it's safe to move forward, unsafe to remain at distance. This variation does not do as good a job prioritizing those things. It targets chasing with the correct action indes. It teaches the coach how to offer a stimulus to draw a desired response. Both are good for fuhlen/indes, distance, compartment, etc... but they are different enough that doing both have value.
@jasonjames9836 11 ай бұрын
Any thoughts of a return to this series? I think you do a great job of detailed example in short digestible bites. I would love to see this series continue.
@OneHewMan Жыл бұрын
Like a real life game of Pokemon.
@chandlerbrown3172 Жыл бұрын
What are the rules to this? Really want to try it
@thehistoricalfencingchanne7899 Жыл бұрын
Pretty minimal. The guys holding swords are not allowed to do anything they aren't told to. You make it more/less complex by narrowing what the puppet masters get to say. So for instance, this is a basic level one game. They are saying weaken. Level 2, they might have to say durchwechseln/zucken/hanging parry Level 3 might be they have to say which foot moves how. But as long as you know what technique beats what other technique and when it must be executed in order to do that, it's not hard to find the rhythm
@thehistoricalfencingchanne7899 Жыл бұрын
I might also suggest that if you don't have a named technique that you know is the correct response to every other named technique in play, then it might be hard to make the game work. It only works if all four people know what all the techniques are, when you use which, against what other techniques you use which, and who's offense and defense turn it is. You will notice in the video, both players don't take the offense at the same time. That's because everybody knows who's turn it is at all times.
@scottjeffers58 Жыл бұрын
Awesome drill! Also Love seeing that Tom!
@controllerfreak3596 Жыл бұрын
2:48 rapier demo starts
@carbon5261 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this!
@controllerfreak3596 Жыл бұрын
I keep checking back for the grappling one.
@OneHewMan Жыл бұрын
A lot of great stuff here. The way James goes from landing a hit and then immediately back to a guard is so smooth. It's something I definitely need to work on more.
@Zloy_moskovit Жыл бұрын
A man with a blow goes straight to the edge of the opponent's sword... Do you think this is a normal situation? An experienced fighter will not go for it
@PoorMansHEMA Жыл бұрын
Could you elaborate?