Groovier! Will this hold the plaster?
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Colored Slip Mountains!
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@uncsoob
@uncsoob 8 сағат бұрын
This is so awesome. Thank you for sharing it! Is it possible to use shape case to make an asymmetric design, for example a mug with a handle?
@mrdobalina3451
@mrdobalina3451 17 сағат бұрын
I think this will become a new hobby for me 🙂
@PotterybyKent
@PotterybyKent 15 сағат бұрын
It is fun!
@mickeysanker1547
@mickeysanker1547 Күн бұрын
To reduce bubbles you should use a small form vibrator. Also when I started doing this many years ago in the 1980's we would just take plaster slurry and smooth it into the bubble holes before it cured. We would use ether a sponge or a paint brush if out hand could fit to apply the slurry.
@PotterybyKent
@PotterybyKent Күн бұрын
I suspect most of those are actually too high of a frequency. I've done several videos on bubbles, and even have a shaker table (however most beginners do not!) I've found the biggest impact of bubble is actually from technique around mixing.
@Liza-hq8dq
@Liza-hq8dq Күн бұрын
I used a couple of the methods from a few of your videos and it worked well. I printed a model and lined the seams with the foam, I then used the tuck tape around the seams and then used binder clips for extra sealing pressure. There were no leaks! I may try without the tape to see if the foam gasget and binderclips are enough! Thanks! Loving Shape Cast!
@PotterybyKent
@PotterybyKent Күн бұрын
Glad to hear it worked! I hoping the new version that uses binder clips will be ready soon!
@niluferkostemozbas6412
@niluferkostemozbas6412 Күн бұрын
Hi, did you use frit 3124 instead of 3134 on purpose?
@PotterybyKent
@PotterybyKent Күн бұрын
I did not! It was a mistake I caught some time later.
@Petielement5
@Petielement5 2 күн бұрын
Thank you Kent for sharing your knowledge❤
@PotterybyKent
@PotterybyKent 2 күн бұрын
You are so welcome
@malcolm7436
@malcolm7436 2 күн бұрын
Great looking pots. There's definitely a unified aesthetic with the handles. Would love to know the glaze recipes, especially the hare's fur and the pink crimson. Best wishes and happy NY.
@PotterybyKent
@PotterybyKent 2 күн бұрын
Thanks! The crimson is @oldforgecreations First 5 recipe with the amounts of mason stain and zirconium added. I havent found a good online source recipe for the hare's fur yet.
@AudreyLynnStudios
@AudreyLynnStudios 3 күн бұрын
Thanks for sharing your results, Ken. I will have to look into this FIRST FIVE glaze concept! Congratulations on the new space!
@PotterybyKent
@PotterybyKent 3 күн бұрын
Thanks! Those glazes are nice because you don't need a bunch of random things for each new recipe! You just need to add the colorants.
@AudreyLynnStudios
@AudreyLynnStudios 3 күн бұрын
@PotterybyKent That sounds like the beautiful part of it! Thanks again!
@PotterybyKent
@PotterybyKent 3 күн бұрын
You're welcome!
@RoofAndAMeal4UsAll
@RoofAndAMeal4UsAll 5 күн бұрын
Have you ever happened to try making a 3D printed mold and then making clay slip casts directly from that? edit found your episode on that. Thanks fun videos!
@PotterybyKent
@PotterybyKent 5 күн бұрын
Unfortunately it doesn't work that way! If we could 3d print a plaster like substance with all of the right properties, then maybe!
@ceramiclabs
@ceramiclabs 5 күн бұрын
Tit.DiOxide is not opacifier. It is used as an white colorant.
@PotterybyKent
@PotterybyKent 5 күн бұрын
Can you explain the difference in this context?
@nonexistenty4152
@nonexistenty4152 5 күн бұрын
Beautifully described sir I learnt so much for your video really Thanks so much I intend to try it out someday. I wanted to learn this and you described it SO well.
@PotterybyKent
@PotterybyKent 5 күн бұрын
Thanks a lot!
@CalculyticCuber
@CalculyticCuber 7 күн бұрын
Good video! Reminds me of IMCO Dragonfruit clay, which is a porcelain clay body with ilmenite included for speckling. I have seen some advice to sand the bisqueware to reveal more of the speckling underneath. That might have been needed on these samples. It appears somewhere from 4-8% would emulate that clay perfectly. IMCO's results look similar, but I think their results look cleaner/more pronounced because of that sanding.
@PotterybyKent
@PotterybyKent 7 күн бұрын
Thanks! Yes, I could imagine sanding would show more. I guess in a similar vein, you might be able to reveal more using a sponge on greenware.
@OomPapaMaoMao
@OomPapaMaoMao 8 күн бұрын
Just found your channel! Ive been binging all of your videos. I am quite the 3d printing enthusiast as well as have developed a love of ceramics over the past few years. Im printing the small cup mold off of your website right now to give it a shot! A couple of questions for you. Are you interested in selling your STL files for the mug handle molds? Do you have any links for the type of plaster and slip supplies that you use? Thanks! Love this new project I have!
@PotterybyKent
@PotterybyKent 8 күн бұрын
Thanks! The handle models are for sale on the web page (under handles). I use USG No. 1 Pottery Plaster. It should be available from your pottery supply store. Likewise ask them which casting slip is available (Laguna makes one for example). I use one from my local pottery shop.
@OomPapaMaoMao
@OomPapaMaoMao 8 күн бұрын
@@PotterybyKent Great. Thank you!
@PotterybyKent
@PotterybyKent 8 күн бұрын
You're welcome!
@Orizuo
@Orizuo 9 күн бұрын
Very good series! I currently work on a slip casting mold for dinner plates based off the Chunky plate desing by Gustaf Westmann. Your advice helps a lot!
@PotterybyKent
@PotterybyKent 9 күн бұрын
That is great to hear!
@Liza-hq8dq
@Liza-hq8dq 10 күн бұрын
I would be very interested in trying this out. I just did my firts mold and found the insert placement and bolting to be very tedious and time consuming. That being said i am loving ShapeCast and it is working well! Thank you so much!
@PotterybyKent
@PotterybyKent 10 күн бұрын
They work well, but take some effort. (Practice helps like with most things). However I'm still working on the software so hopefully I'll be able to roll out this version. It is quicker for sure!
@bigchrisrogers
@bigchrisrogers 10 күн бұрын
Thanks for the video. I must try some slip casting soon.
@PotterybyKent
@PotterybyKent 10 күн бұрын
Go for it!
@DubbelDutch1
@DubbelDutch1 11 күн бұрын
3D printed mold PLA. Gypsum casting. Any thoughts about the release options: Pancoating spray, Apel Mold Release or just soap based... thx Kent.
@PotterybyKent
@PotterybyKent 11 күн бұрын
I don't know the first two specifically, but having use mold soap I don't think it does too much with plaster. Or if it does, there are other factors much more important like for draft angle on the form, the slight growth of plaster, etc. I think this is why the ice and alcohol method works so well is that it is actually shrinking the part to get it to release.
@marksstudio
@marksstudio 13 күн бұрын
That was a great tutorial on mold making incorporating a 3d printer. The concept excites me and it's the perfect excuse to jump into 3d printing. I like the way you go about things. Very workmanlike.
@PotterybyKent
@PotterybyKent 13 күн бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@lamardon9723
@lamardon9723 16 күн бұрын
I recently ran just short of enough dry plaster to make a new mold. After some quick checking I found that I could augment the mix with diatomaceous earth, which some people use 100% for making what I'm sure are not as durable as pure plaster. Have there been any studies about plaster/DE combinations. I wonder since DE is so nicely water absorbent.
@PotterybyKent
@PotterybyKent 16 күн бұрын
That's interesting, I've not seen that!
@schmerol
@schmerol 16 күн бұрын
really great inspiration - i started designing my own molds thanks to you. Something i'm playing with is having the bottom flange attached to the inner shell, with the outer shell having the flange towards the inner shell laying on top of it. when pouring the buoyancy of the inner shell presses the two flanges together and seals them without needing to clamp at the bottom. the devil is in the detail though - demolding might be trickier since the flange from the outer shell lies between the plaster and the flange of the inner shell. maybe the idea helps for future iterations, keep it up!
@PotterybyKent
@PotterybyKent 16 күн бұрын
Interesting idea! I've had enough plaster disasters that I'm being rather risk adverse on that front - making sure things really don't leak. However I do suspect there are other approaches. Let me know how it works out!
@schmerol
@schmerol 16 күн бұрын
@@PotterybyKent i already did a cast and it worked with no leakage at all. So yeah, when the prints look good, it works fine. but i did it with a single outer-shell (like a tube with a flange to the inside) and i had to cut it open since i didn't use mold release. next try i'm gonna make 2 outer shells with flanges, already printed. about the prints - i run as well a bambulab without distortions, even on high prints. Maybe it is the room it's sitting in why on the top is bending in your case (cold air movement?)
@PotterybyKent
@PotterybyKent 16 күн бұрын
Cool, good to know. I'm not sure mold release does too much for plaster in 3d prints. My Bambu is in the bottom of a closet with the door open, so it's not an issue with ambient air. Usually it is just fine so I think it is something about this particular model.
@Mat-u1o
@Mat-u1o 16 күн бұрын
Was hoping to see if slip works in a silicone mould 😢
@PotterybyKent
@PotterybyKent 16 күн бұрын
It does not. You need to special characteristics of plaster, and even then pottery plaster.
@marksstudio
@marksstudio 17 күн бұрын
Love your videos. Been subscribed for awhile and glad of it.
@PotterybyKent
@PotterybyKent 17 күн бұрын
Glad you enjoy them!
@mpiercebgtek
@mpiercebgtek 17 күн бұрын
The main point is don’t rely on the slicer but design it into your stl files so it will always be there independent of the slicer used.
@PotterybyKent
@PotterybyKent 17 күн бұрын
There are competing requirements in making the 3d model for printing, plaster and the slip as I discuss in the video. Ideally yes, but in practice there are tradeoffs.
@mpiercebgtek
@mpiercebgtek 17 күн бұрын
I have an example photo if you are interested. I don’t know how to attach to these comments
@PotterybyKent
@PotterybyKent 17 күн бұрын
Thanks. I understand what they are
@mpiercebgtek
@mpiercebgtek 17 күн бұрын
if you want to address the lifting corners and dont want to use brims which are messy design a feature called Mickey Mouse ears that attaches to your piece right where it lifts and can be easily broken off
@PotterybyKent
@PotterybyKent 17 күн бұрын
This only works if you know a priori where the problems are. In this case the geometry was the same, so you would not have known.
@MrSnokas
@MrSnokas 17 күн бұрын
Can't say I fully understand your use case, but I can say that it would be muuuuuch easier to model that mold in Fusion360 or Onshape. I prefer Onshape myself. Both has free tiers.
@PotterybyKent
@PotterybyKent 17 күн бұрын
The software automatically generates 3d models from a 2d pot profile with no CAD knowledge. It lets slip casters make new plaster molds without learning CAD. Modeling one mold could be done with any CAD software. Automating the process is much more complicated since I don't know the starting profile.
@SpartasPhalanx
@SpartasPhalanx 17 күн бұрын
It seems the bending might be through warping off the pint bed. You could try adding a brim or a mousefoot there.
@PotterybyKent
@PotterybyKent 17 күн бұрын
That would require knowing where it warps ahead of time. As I said, the other one I printed at the exact same time had no issues (and the rest of the one I showed was fine as well). Having said that, I think the test that prevents the grooves from being considered "outside" for the brims might be helpful.
@SpartasPhalanx
@SpartasPhalanx 17 күн бұрын
@@PotterybyKent Generally on corners after long straights is more likely to warp. That is where the shrinkage in the layes is the most. Bed adhesion is very surface clenliness dependant as well. So some contamination or residue from the last print can help or hurt that. Not sure how to implement brim. Maybe some weird sections that print subpixel colloums that break up the step file, but generate a cleaner brim. Sounds like a lot of effort.
@PotterybyKent
@PotterybyKent 17 күн бұрын
The geometry is the same, so that is unlikely to be the root cause. I'm pretty sure it's unevenness in print bed temperature. As far as the brim, in theory it just needs a very thin wall at the end of the groove - in practice it'll take some work as it will likely be slicer dependent.
@samuelgoodell
@samuelgoodell 17 күн бұрын
Kent, could you go into more detail about the technology behind Shape Cast? Based on the floating point issues with the meshes that you described, it sounds like you would benefit from switching to CAD software that uses a “boundary representation” internally and just exports meshes at the end. There are some open source kernels for this such as OpenCascade (C++ but with bindings available in other languages including WASM/JS), not sure if you’re using something like that already.
@PotterybyKent
@PotterybyKent 17 күн бұрын
I've started using FreeCAD which uses OpenCascade under the hood. So I'm doing just that now and working with solid geometry and the failures I'm encountering and need to work around come from it.
@JenaHuffman
@JenaHuffman 18 күн бұрын
Thank you for explaining this process and doing the testing. You explained this very well! 😊
@PotterybyKent
@PotterybyKent 18 күн бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@nigamkumargiri
@nigamkumargiri 20 күн бұрын
1. What clay to be used for making slip casting ? 2. Please make a video on preparing liquid clay for casting slip.
@PotterybyKent
@PotterybyKent 20 күн бұрын
I have several videos showing it. Take the clay powder, add darvan 7, the right amount of water and mix.
@nigamkumargiri
@nigamkumargiri 20 күн бұрын
Can you please tell what clay is used for making slip casting
@PotterybyKent
@PotterybyKent 20 күн бұрын
I use powdered clay meant from slip casting from my local pottery supplier. Check yours (and for beginners I suggest buying liquid casting slip).
@IsaacDosch
@IsaacDosch 21 күн бұрын
Do you ever run into issues from the heat from the plaster during curing warping your 3D printed parts?
@PotterybyKent
@PotterybyKent 21 күн бұрын
Nope, no issues so far. The plaster isn't warm for that long, and by the time the exothermic reaction is fully going, the plaster is also solid (so there's not really any force against the print).
@gailcunningham3372
@gailcunningham3372 22 күн бұрын
❤Kent hi, wondering if u can help!!!..This is GAIL, from Indianapolis, Indiana..Im trying to pour slup into ceramic mold J1566,from CLAY MGIC MOLDS Its a balarina.The problem is when iI take the body out its on a platform already, what device can I make to hold it in place to dry and hold the head in place also??..Please help!!!
@PotterybyKent
@PotterybyKent 22 күн бұрын
No idea about that mold. Often foam is used to help hold irregular shaped pottery pieces when working on them. It might also need to stiffen up more in the mold.
@gailcunningham3372
@gailcunningham3372 22 күн бұрын
@@PotterybyKent THANK YOU!!..u replied today, Im so excited.. HAPPY HOLIDAYS!!!
@PotterybyKent
@PotterybyKent 22 күн бұрын
Sure thing
@JuliaMostowska
@JuliaMostowska 23 күн бұрын
Hey Kent, when will it be possible to buy a 3d model of this mold and will there be different sizes?
@PotterybyKent
@PotterybyKent 23 күн бұрын
I already have a few different sizes, but wanted to do this test to make sure everything went like it should! I'm not sure when I'll get it on to the web page, but feel free to email me to get it sooner.
@jatx5126
@jatx5126 24 күн бұрын
What 3d printer you use?
@PotterybyKent
@PotterybyKent 24 күн бұрын
It's a Bambu P1P
@justinmorrow2932
@justinmorrow2932 24 күн бұрын
Another great video, have you tried adding threads or threaded inserts into the narrow part of the handle to make it easier to remove? Even just a central rib so you can grab it with the pliers.
@PotterybyKent
@PotterybyKent 24 күн бұрын
I talked about this a bit in the video - for this narrow handle there really just isn't much room to do so. This is only a few mm across. Also you want it to flex away from the plaster (towards the hollow). I'm guessing if you just pulled straight up you'd likely break the plaster out.
@Heartwing37
@Heartwing37 24 күн бұрын
I’m getting a 3D printer for Christmas (I think) and hope to jump in on doing some of these projects with you! 👏🏼
@PotterybyKent
@PotterybyKent 24 күн бұрын
That's great! They have gotten a lot better these past few years (and faster!)
@joesmoke530
@joesmoke530 24 күн бұрын
I really appreciate these videos and this project. I am hoping to get started one day! Thanks for putting in the work!
@PotterybyKent
@PotterybyKent 24 күн бұрын
You're very welcome. It's been a lot of fun!
@sealpiercing8476
@sealpiercing8476 24 күн бұрын
With such a small part as the handle, I wonder if it would work well to mill the shape out of a block of plaster. It might be possible to avoid chipping and flashing entirely that way, and the time to iterate on a design could be shorter as you could keep some plaster bricks on hand.
@PotterybyKent
@PotterybyKent 18 күн бұрын
In talking with an expert on plaster, the answer is probably no. I didn't get into the details with them, but they said milled plaster is not suitable for slip casting.
@sealpiercing8476
@sealpiercing8476 17 күн бұрын
@@PotterybyKent Huh, that's surprising! I wonder how that could be.
@PotterybyKent
@PotterybyKent 12 күн бұрын
From what I gathered it was due to the surface of the plaster being different than the interior (which is exposed while milling). The finish is different, but I wonder if the structure is as well.
@deathbydarwin1985
@deathbydarwin1985 24 күн бұрын
I use empty 3d print spools as a triming chuck for thin necked vases. I stack them up as high as needed and use those binder clips all around to hold them together.
@PotterybyKent
@PotterybyKent 24 күн бұрын
That's a creative use of them! I don't have a wheel myself so don't throw too often, but it's a good trick!
@cbshipper5719
@cbshipper5719 25 күн бұрын
I use a similar design but without the multiple grooves. I apply melted beeswax to the outside seams to seal it. Add melted wax using a foam brush in a circle around the base, then two vertical lines on the sides. Add on a couple binder clips then hit with a heat gun to partially remelt into the gaps. Works great for making one or a few molds as it is so quick to design and 3D print.
@cbshipper5719
@cbshipper5719 25 күн бұрын
I'm going to have to steal that ice water trick for shrinking the center mold core
@PotterybyKent
@PotterybyKent 25 күн бұрын
The frozen alcohol and water works very well. Bees wax is an interesting thought! I don't think I'd seen that before. Once I get the software working, all of these features will be modeled automatically so the design complexity won't be an issue - that is once I track down off of the bugs in the software!
@1943vermork
@1943vermork 27 күн бұрын
Neat mold! You can also add printed text for reference as - Part # - Assembly # - Internal volume - Customer name Even text that transfer to your molded part. As for the grooves/bumps profile, I would just do 90deg V at 45 for printing ease. Maybe do a support base in order to clear the binder clip to have a stable mold. If you go bigger, bigger C-clamps 🗜️, quick-grip can be used. Straps, belt, rope, tie-wrap could be used too. Cheers
@1943vermork
@1943vermork 27 күн бұрын
Love the cold alcohol trick.
@PotterybyKent
@PotterybyKent 26 күн бұрын
The cold alcohol and water makes a huge difference! As far as the rest - anything is possible. The real question is what is useful given the time required to implement this and have it work for any profile.
@emanggitulah4319
@emanggitulah4319 27 күн бұрын
You can also 3d print some clips and they will be stiffer
@PotterybyKent
@PotterybyKent 27 күн бұрын
Why is stiffer a goal? These work great as is
@WickandBurn
@WickandBurn 28 күн бұрын
Very nice and informative video!
@PotterybyKent
@PotterybyKent 28 күн бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@londontrotter7481
@londontrotter7481 28 күн бұрын
Brilliant thank you
@PotterybyKent
@PotterybyKent 28 күн бұрын
You're very welcome!
@valerieserluco4727
@valerieserluco4727 28 күн бұрын
What infill and wall thickness do you design too? I’m always worried about warping
@PotterybyKent
@PotterybyKent 28 күн бұрын
I used the Bambu slicer defaults. For the outer mold this time I used "standard" and it's 15% infill and 2 walls. 5 shells on top and 3 on the bottom. The thickness of the flange itself was dictated by the threaded insert, but that could be revisited now.
@Skyliner_369
@Skyliner_369 28 күн бұрын
looking at the slip mugs, and the slip tumbler, they look nice. Honestly, if you got the skills, I'd wanna see how they look with pulled handles. On another note, why not put plaster in the dehydrator/oven? It'll fall apart at metal casting temp when it hits water, but I don't *think* it'll disintegrate at lower temps of like 250 (125ish) tops. However, I could be wrong about that.
@PotterybyKent
@PotterybyKent 28 күн бұрын
The clay body of slip and plastic throwing clays are different. So I don't have plastic clay for my slip body. I am adding slip cast handles however. I don't know enough about the chemistry of plaster besides it being exothermic - I'm not sure adding more heat will improve the strength of the chemical bond. I do use a dehydrator to pull down the ambient humidity.
@Skyliner_369
@Skyliner_369 28 күн бұрын
why is the inner mold separate from the ring, if I may ask? is it just because of volume limitation? if so, maybe test the option of combining the ring to the inner mold? also those seals look pretty good. I'd see about whether or not you can get the lock a bit more sticky by making the depth taller compared to the width... or width of the waves thinner compared to the height... and if you can, on the sides of the waves, push super slightly to an interference fit, so the sides of the waves seal, and the crests and troughs don't open the flashing gaps through interference.
@PotterybyKent
@PotterybyKent 28 күн бұрын
It is for demolding the plaster. As far as altering the grooves and ridges - I think the issue there isn't so much the geometry as the flatness of the surfaces of the print. I've never seen anyone get an interference fit with a 3d print.
@OneSolidCube
@OneSolidCube 29 күн бұрын
20:16 would ultrasonic cleaner work?
@PotterybyKent
@PotterybyKent 29 күн бұрын
Probably. A spray of water worked well enough.
@OneSolidCube
@OneSolidCube 29 күн бұрын
Rather than tapping at 15:34 touch your sifter or drill to side and run for a little.
@PotterybyKent
@PotterybyKent 29 күн бұрын
I have. I actually have a shaker table - but almost no one else does so I don't use it. I actually have an idea for augmenting the molds to help with bubbles but havent gotten there yet!