That’s cool to hear. Have fun printing some minis

I turned off the ventilation in order to film the video. I am of the current opinion that the PPE I am wearing in the video is enough for the task displayed. Mind you there are filters which you can not see

@@tnh_group ahh.. thx for sharing this!

I have stopped for the most part. Don't worry

What has to be pink ?

@@tnh_group The spray bottle

I have bought my flexible from WhamBam. Look here www.whambamsystems.com/collections/frontpage/products/225-x-129-elegoo-saturn-2-8k-and-saturn-8k . I looked for a tablet screen protector that fits and usually buy more than 1 for my printers and they change by the hour so go look for a plastic one that fits the printer. The newer ones from elegoo have one preinstalled. I use paper towels and have not found that they scratch my film but I use my own product for that which is better than standard PFA/FEP. I wash my prints well with my hands and my ultra sonic cleaner. Typically an ultra sonic cleaner and the washing stations are all that you need. Works by hand as well. I will make a video about my new workflow this month when reviewing a new printer that's coming

I printed outer walls with around 80mm/s. A good way to get even faster printing is using a bigger nozzle size than 0.4. Of course you can print faster if you make the whole system stiffer or just increase the speed in the software but that was not worth my efforts for my journey as a business.

Thank you for your concerns

YES!!!!! saw them live, they're pretty cool

Thank you for your kind words. I wish you great success on your 3D printing journey

At the time most of the affordable water washable resins had inferior material properties compared to resins that are not water washable

Danke Habibi

Who is they? I have not seen scratches on my foil and that may be cause of my PFA sheets

I agree with you but don't mind the alcohol storage personally but the brittleness is a no-no for me

Thank you for your kind words. My other channel is DieLarpBruchbude here on KZbin

First of all: this is not a review and a better more "full" view on that topic will follow. Especially now that I have a partner namely SirayaTech and they make resins. This video is bad. Period.

@@tnh_group This is not a review. This is a bad video. You have a partner..... What are we supposed to get from that?

Why are you angry with people on the internet ?

@@tnh_group Who is angry? Me?? Am I a people hater because I disagreed with your comments?

Einfach dumm

The video I made is bad and uninformed. I'll take a look at the resin you mentioned

I know of your concerns and you don't have to like this video/opinion (a better one will follow). Yes it is flammable and I know what I'm talking about but I have yet to set flame to the ethanol that I use and you have to put some serious work in to get this stuff to explode. Ethanol/IPA can be reused as well. Just not a big fan of this stuff and some eco resin is advertised as non toxic

Thanks for the feedback. I want to do an update on this video and your comment lays out experiences people have. I have my endorsed resin in the video description

May I ask what brands You have used, and what are the best / worst in your opinion?

@@lenniskovgaard8278 I've only used Elegoo resins

@@luisbustamante5479 😂

@@lenniskovgaard8278 sorry made a mistake there, just fixed it.

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Freut mich, danke!

Keep in mind that there are no one size fits all solutions and this is just one way of doing it. Yours is super valid aswell

No problem. They are some work to produce though

I'll try not to do that again. I can assure you that I haven't rubbed resin in my nose

@@tnh_group That's very good to know stay healthy! Amazing educational video btw

Thank you. I'm trying to share all my essential no bs knowledge. More videos will follow

I fully agree to your last sentence although I would like to keep politics away from my channel. I agree with you that the industries in the world pollute the environment a lot but I am trying to do the things that seem right locally. It is peace of mind for me if I cure my "waste" and then put it in the plastic trash you don't have to do that. Thank you for keeping it civil

Some political reasons probably

Toggaf

Also if you want PFA sheets for a good price there is a solution for the UK

Glad it helped!

because it is related to resin 3D printing?

That also works for people but hasn't really worked for me

This works for me perfectly, saved me a lot of headaches - especially since you don’t even have to unscrew or drain the VAT or remove anything except for that layer Though I use like 90s just to be sure

Thanks for the heads up

Washing normal resin is easy too an doesn't take that much time either. Also you can recommend what you like I just don't prefer it and there is some marketing gibberish

Dankeschön und kein Problem. Falls du dann irgendwann Mal eine neue Folie für dein Vat brauchst: ich verkaufe die in gut und Made in Germany über eBay oder meine Webseite ^^

Thank you very much but I am not at the point where I could do this for a living yet

That is correct. In a lot of advertisements at the time (and I think there are still some) washing under the tap was shown in the pictures of the prodcut pages which is just wrong

Ja. Die Druckqualität ist ähnlich bis gleich

@@tnh_group Okay, vielen Dank!

You definitely have to dispose of it properly. Just remember that sense of smell is different from person to person as I personally don't mind the smell at all. There is a video in the making that goes over the comments and content of this video explaining everything in greater detail

I thank you for your comment. I just want to say that IPA or alcohol is not the only washing solution available. You do have to realise that the spec sheet for water washable resin is most of the time worse than most other resins in similar price regions. IMHO manufacturers should educate people more on resin safety and do's and don'ts but they rarely do. There is a follow up video in the making where I explain myself a little more with some more reasoning

@@tnh_group I think that is the way of niche interests. You are right the companies SHOULD do more education. But as with a lot of niche hobbies, the problem comes down to individual practitioners. Every hobbyist develops their own processes for disposal and safe handling where there should be proper standards. Those will come with time. As for other washing techniques... If it's not alcohol based washing it still requires chemicals + water. For instance water+simple green. So isn't it better to just use plain water and dispose responsibly?

The question is though if the water is contaminated in any shape or form. Resin is toxic in the end even if the bottle says otherwise. If you don't want to drink it don't pour it down the drain

@@tnh_group That is not the question. Of course it's contaminated. So is the alcohol and the cleaning solution. The question is...what is the proper way to dispose any of it. I would suppose the responsible thing to do would be to print disposal instructions on the bottles.

That is good for you. My main point would be that the material strength is not that high compared to other resins that also produce great results. There is a follow up video in the making explaining it all

No problem. I will spend more time to spread more tips as time goes on

Thank you for acknowledging the toxicity of resin. Smell is different from person to person and Water Washable resin is not as strong as for example SirayaTech Sculpt. Of course the result will look the same but are you comfortable with models falling from tables? I am, had no breakage and cured models remain somewhat springy

@@tnh_group There are a lot of crash tests on KZbin. I saw one that trowed the model to the ceiling en falling on the ground and minimal damage. The resin I use from Phrozen is resalable flex. But I didn't do a crash test. I have a larger model (17 cm tall) that felt out of my hand during the paint job, and that one is still happy.

@@tnh_group Over curing is also a thing that we have to keep in mind. I never cure my models longer than 5 minutes. Over curing will make your model extremely hard and they properly break faster.

@@RC-Rick over curing is a bigger issue on cheaper resins though. I have tested 5 min vs 30 min and there is no noticable change. It heavily depends on the resin and what is actually in it

I use a filtering and curing process and then dispose of it as my local hazard disposal person said. I don't have to "throw away" that much alcohol/next to none

@@tnh_group I dont get why people go with the hassle to go to hazard disposal, any reason to? I just got a 50w 405nm UV LED (12€ from ebay here in germany) and drop that with the contaminated liquid into a container This way I dont even need a heatsink for the LED since the liquid acts as the heatsink and it blasts every bit of uncured resin to the moon and back lol

@@flosa1995 For clarification: I asked there. Haven't cleaned my ethanol in months because it still works just fine

I have seen at least a 2 posts of people's water washable resin minis cracking and leaking after a while. Though this might have been user error I have not seen this with standard resin. Opinion does not always follow the best logic and as you might guess: this video was not made after hours of research but in a short while after a brain fart. I will make a follow up video that is better after my break. Thank you for your criticism

@@tnh_group Which part of the video was opinion? At the very beginning you said "We'll be talking about *why they are a ruse and why you shouldn't use them"* then finished with "Prove me wrong". That is not how you frame an opinion, that's how you frame a statement of fact, which requires logic.

I am just very nip pickey plus this video was not made with a ton of research

Thanks for the info. Carima CMYK is also marketed as non-toxic, but harder to find. Haven't even bought a 3D printer yet, but non-toxic resin is an enormous bonus.

@@LeDechaine Seems like snake oil, the reason the resin cures is also the reason why its toxic Resin cures with UV light, thus its highly reactive, since its highly reactive it also reacts with other things such as enzymes in your body Nature always seeks balance thus the resin wont just say okay I ONLY react to UV light.. but ehh what do I know, just a small salesman

Several brands of water washable resin were promoted with images of prints being washed in a sink.