Absolutely genius idea but at the cost of between 6k and 7500 you could buy 2 of the EG4 14.3 kwh wall mount batteries and the lack of battery storage should be solved.
@MichaelWakefield-mx6hg5 күн бұрын
Man I love your videos! To hear someone who REALLY knows the specs, capabilities, and pros and cons of each battery system, with no bs, is really refreshing 👌 PW3 is a beast, for sure. Any word on when the dc expansion units are available, and also the remote meter system for the Gateway3, to allow partial home backup and sync with smart tarrifs? Keep up your videos, they are essential in the KZbin swamp of late. Cheers, Mick
@jameskelly6247 күн бұрын
Excellent video...I looked at your service area map. I'm in Georgia which you don't service....can you recommend anyone in Georgia given your years of experience in the business. Thanks
@kimnach9 күн бұрын
While I am in the beginning stages, I am impressed with the xxKpv line of inverters from EG4. However, I wish they would introduce a 6Kpv inverter, which would be sealed and have a 10yr warranty like the 12Kpv and 18Kpv instead of the 5yrs for the 6000XP. Why 6Kpv? I would rather have fault tolerance by using three 6Kpv instead of a 0-fault tolerant inverter system as with a single 15K or 18K model. Each 6K would have equal battery and PV allocated to them. If one were to fail--especially in the middle of harsh winters in NE OH, we could limp along at roughly 66% kWatt capacity (and could re-allocate the storage and PV to the operational converters until a later date.
@MrRentgould13 күн бұрын
Thanks , love the pointer
@alexherrera391814 күн бұрын
"Dragging the string down" is an old problem, i advice you to check this real test comparing the shading of panels. kzbin.info/www/bejne/iorSnGWaqdqMgbs
@jeffwang666116 күн бұрын
I wonder that it takes to back feed electrical power back to my house during outage with or without PW3?
@alexherrera391817 күн бұрын
New subscriber. Good analysis. newbie question: what is better a Enphase or a eg4 system (microinverters vs just one inverter)?
@matthewsocal254024 күн бұрын
Good stuff.
@sspyder18125 күн бұрын
Just finished a duel 18kpv system with a very clever propane generator setup and over 900ah battery bank and 7kw solar(so far). Very awesome 👌
@Harryrobsmith25 күн бұрын
Dropping knowledge like a boss!
@RockyBroadSolarLLC26 күн бұрын
Thank you for watching!
@sandras745126 күн бұрын
Can you use battery banks of 12.8V 280ah Eco-worthy batteries with the EG4?
@feedvid27 күн бұрын
Great video. Thanks. 👍
@RockyBroadSolarLLC26 күн бұрын
Thank you for watching!
@SkyCharterАй бұрын
6:18 Gen input not suitable for smaller generators? Can you please elaborate?
@RockyBroadSolarLLC29 күн бұрын
Hi @Sky Charter. It looks like if the generator is larger than 19.2kW, it should be connected to the grid terminal and if it is smaller than 19.2, it can be connected to the generator terminal. This is likely because this is that "80A continuous" threshold that maxes out that 100A GEN port. I was fresh out of the certification process when I made this video and I am going back in again to see exactly what I was getting at in that comment about connecting smaller generators in a different manner.
@Mike-01234Ай бұрын
All these inverters are made in China Sol-ark is made by Deye started in business in 2007 Luxpower is the manufacture of EG4 18kpv they started in 2017. US companies like Sol-Ark and EG4 slap a name on it and handle the US support. If you go to Deye's website see bunch of inverters that look like Sol-Ark have Deye name on it. The real savings is the battery EG-4 power pro and the EG4-18kpv have the UL9540A ESS certification at a far lower price then any of the competition. Now that many AHJ's are requiring 9540A prices of batteries were sent in the wrong direction shame that regulators continue to play these games for the utilities to keep solar expensive.
@RockyBroadSolarLLC29 күн бұрын
Thanks for the input @Mike-01234. I know about the rebranding process, but at least we have someone to call for US support if and when the need arises. Yes, especially out in California that UL9540A is a must have to pass inspections. The code requirements out there in places such as LA County are outrageous. The utility monopolies are not going down without a fight, that is for sure, but the day is coming quicker than most think. Thanks for watching the channel and for the comments!
@kolifxАй бұрын
Looking at the battery spec I have to ask. Is 3.84 kVa same as 3.84kw?
@ZachSolarАй бұрын
In a perfect scenario with zero power loss, yes they are. kW output would measure the actual power delivered/received
@RockyBroadSolarLLCАй бұрын
Yes, kVa is pretty much the same thing as kW. volts x amps = watts. Seems like @zachsolar probably accurately called out the minor difference between the 2. Thanks for watching!
@kolifxАй бұрын
@@RockyBroadSolarLLCThank you for the explanation, I was scratching my head when I saw 5P's spec sheet as other manufacturers tend to go with kWh metric.
@kolifxАй бұрын
@@ZachSolarThank you for the explanation.
@jeffwilliams59Ай бұрын
Thanks -- this was helpful! And I know it won't matter for most people...but for us...altitude plays a role. The EG4 isn't spec'd over 6,562 feet (may encounter arc jumps on pcb traces and EG4 won't warranty.) Sol-Ark is 10,000 feet. We're at 8,100.
@RockyBroadSolarLLCАй бұрын
@jeffwilliams59 - Great piece of information. That is pretty important for those up in high elevations. Thanks for watching!
@bobbycalabrese831Ай бұрын
Good overview and thanks for correcting previous information, it takes a big man to do that! I'm in the middle of choosing between these two and the Schneider Electric's XW Pro. I see in their spec sheets and your white board that both of these units can handle 12,000 continuous watts (battery only, no PV) L-L @ 240V. I have seen or heard somewhere, but I can’t find it write anywhere that the EG4 18kPV can handle 8,000 continuous watts (battery only, no PV) L-N @ 120V either Leg as long as the combined is not more than 12K. Can you confirm this and site a written source? Also, I’ve asked Sol-Ark the same question but they will not answer the question. Do you know these specs for the Sol-Ark 15k? If not, can you point me to someone or place who can answer this seeming easy question to answer.
@RockyBroadSolarLLCАй бұрын
Hi @bobbycalabrese831 I believe you hit the nail on the head here. The EG4 18KPV has 12,000 watts of continuous output power which equates to 50A at 240 volts. The datasheet states "max continuous line wattage" of 8,000 watts. So this means if your legs are imbalanced significantly with 120 volt circuits, You could hypothetically pull up to 66A on one leg as long as the total across both legs did not exceed 12,000 watts. Thanks for watching!
@JerHAMMАй бұрын
If there’s one thing I can’t stand more than anything else 😂 With a white board behind you😂😂😂😂😂 Can’t make that shit up😂
@RockyBroadSolarLLCАй бұрын
I call it how I see it! Thanks for watching!
@rianray7565Ай бұрын
Had my Powerwall 3 for a week now. Quite happy so far
@RockyBroadSolarLLCАй бұрын
Glad to hear it. Keep us updated. Thanks for watching!
@joelhiltz3329Ай бұрын
This guy in pajamas forgot to clean up and us not an authority on the subject.
@RockyBroadSolarLLCАй бұрын
LMAO! Yeah, it looks like I needed to brush the back of my head a little better! After watching that video, I now make sure to use a hand held mirror to take care of that cowlick! Thanks for watching!
@silverstackingguru3806Ай бұрын
Great info thank you
@RockyBroadSolarLLCАй бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@PeaceChanelАй бұрын
Thank You for All that you are doing for our Planet Earth.. .. Peace.. Shalom.. Salam.. Namaste 🙏🏻 😊 ✌ ☮ ❤
@RockyBroadSolarLLCАй бұрын
Thank you for the kind words!
@user-ux1jp1ll7yАй бұрын
In NJ for install 4 5p batteries companies want 38.5k $ this insane. 2 tesla powerwall 3 cost 22k $. Same chemistry, more capacity and more output. One thing is different tesla powerwall 3 can not be charged from generator.
@RockyBroadSolarLLCАй бұрын
Thanks for watching and commenting! That is correct. Enphase includes a lot of bells and whistles and redundancy, which also means more cost. You would still be able to integrate a PW3 system with a home that has a fossil fuel generator on site, but like you said, it won't be able to charge the batteries, it would just be a secondary line of defense in an outage in case you depleted the battery bank.
@HerbertHerbGlumАй бұрын
A great video, thanks for taking the time to put all of these new features and capabilities of the Powerwall 3 on a video. Perhaps the single biggest and in my view most important, features is that huge peak power capability. I live in the desert and have two AC units. For everyone else's inverters operating in backup mode, something has to be done to prevent the inverter from shutting down and going off line if both AC compressors start up at the same time, particularly if the OAT is over 100 degrees! I also have couple of quick comments / questions. On the mid circuit interrupters, in round numbers solar panels put out around 50 volts around midday, two in series output lethal voltage, so wouldn't the mid circuit interrupters need to be placed on each panel, not on every two or three? At least according to the Fire Dept. where I live there shouldn't be any lethal voltages when the system is in rapid shut down. You also said that you would have to buy enough Powerwall 3 units to power the whole home during backup. Doesn't it have any sort of load management / load shed capability? It seems that a good portion of the competing manufacturers either have automatic load management or are working on it. I would like to see another video on the Tesla App and in particular how it interacts with the Powerwall 3.
@RockyBroadSolarLLCАй бұрын
Thanks for watching @HerbertHerbGlum and you have some great questions! For the mid circuit interrupters you have a great point. I did some research and all I could find is that an MCI needs to be connected between no more than 165A of operating voltage, but like you said, that should technically be plenty enough to kill someone. It may be because that voltage is isolated within the array boundary, so a firefighter could still cut into the circuit between the solar panels and the PW3 and be completely isolated from that dangerous voltage. Tesla does not have any load shedding capabilities. They seem to be getting rid of all of the bells and whistles and just shooting for the lowest cost system/highest output battery. You could however pair this with the Tesla Backup Gateway 2 for partial home backup, or you could install it alongside a SPAN Smart Panel to intelligently manage your loads during an outage. SPAN and PW3 recently achieved compatibility status, which makes them a great combo.
@ssmith2019Ай бұрын
Great Vid ! Gracias Amigo !😁
@RockyBroadSolarLLCАй бұрын
Gracias por mirar!
@ssmith2019Ай бұрын
@@RockyBroadSolarLLC De Nada !
@MatthewYBarboАй бұрын
Really enjoyed a lot of the points you made in this video. Enphase is gaining more and more popularity depending on what the individual's needs are. With the ever changing solar industry, it's not always easy to keep up with new trends and equipment. Very educational piece. Keep it up!!
@RockyBroadSolarLLCАй бұрын
I appreciate the kind words @MatthewYBarbo, thanks so much for watching the channel!
@xxBLKSNXxxАй бұрын
How am I getting a Gateway 3 installed with my PW3 ? I have an existing system with a SolarEdge inverter and optimizers. They tell me it can be AC coupled?
@jas340Ай бұрын
I have 4 Enphase 5ps installed. Calling it good for the next 20 years assuming I live that long.
@RockyBroadSolarLLCАй бұрын
That lithium iron phosphate should keep you squared away. Thanks for watching the channel!
@AlexS0hАй бұрын
I just looked at Tesla website, if you go to buy a power wall it does not say definitively what power wall version you are buying. Anyone know why?
@RockyBroadSolarLLCАй бұрын
No idea, but you can always get a quote directly from me. We generally are pretty competitive with the prices that Tesla charges on turn key installations.Thanks for watching!
@feedvidАй бұрын
Great video. Thanks. 👍
@RockyBroadSolarLLCАй бұрын
Glad you liked it! Thank you for watching!
@danmccoy6164Ай бұрын
Wow. Talk about major limitations. Not even compatible with there own older systems. Just a way to force you to buy more equipment exclusively from them.
@RockyBroadSolarLLCАй бұрын
Yes, it is a shame. You can mix the 5P battery with older microinverters, but all micros have to be the same generation and all batteries have to be the same generation. No mixing of microinverters and no mixing of batteries. Thanks for watching!
@allenzorres7915Ай бұрын
Can we AC and DC couple at the same time? I think yes. What are issue will occure during the the setup? As DYI Trying to see what benefits for both system intergrated?
@RockyBroadSolarLLCАй бұрын
Absolutely. Depends on your inverter, but many battery capable inverters do allow you to both AC and DC couple separate PV systems at the same time. This would also give you another level of redundancy in case one of the two systems went down. Thanks for watching!
@seanburns1278Ай бұрын
How about an install on a house that already has solar but no storage? Is there a way to install a PW3 so it charges off excess solar during the day and runs the house in the evening/night, without tying into the current solar system?
@RockyBroadSolarLLCАй бұрын
Absolutely. The Powerwall 3 recently was approved for "AC coupling" which is exactly what you are talking about. It basically tricks a grid tied only inverter into thinking the grid is operating and uses a CT clamp to monitor the PV output to charge the batteries accordingly.
@gunhawrtisАй бұрын
Very good video. Would be great if you can do more on microinverters such as install steps or components needed like dc/ac disconnect
@RockyBroadSolarLLCАй бұрын
Absolutely. I plan to do some more hands on videos in the future once the channel is up and running. Most microinverters have a combiner box with circuit breakers that are considered a code compliant AC disconnect per NEC guidelines, but many utilities have their own unique AC disconnect requirements.
@johnmiggins9431Ай бұрын
wholesale sol-ark cost $5500
@RockyBroadSolarLLCАй бұрын
Good to know. I just based the price comparison on the standard pricing found online. Thanks for watching the channel!
@obijuan30042 ай бұрын
Nothing new, Tesla is just catching up to the competition.
@RockyBroadSolarLLCАй бұрын
I hear you. It is a constant race to be in front of the competition. Thanks for watching.
@aoeuuaoaou3 күн бұрын
*passing
@Dreadlk2 ай бұрын
I have been into Solar for Years and I am an EE. Some of these comments are just missing the point completely. This is about safety and what the inspectors want to see. It does not matter if your PV is limited to less than the Amps rating. It does not matter if your batteries are limited. Every Inspector knows that the Amount of Panels may increase and more batteries could be added later. They are only Interested in what is the Maximum the Inverter, Wiring and Panel box can handle when put together. This was a good video but could have been better if the Buzzer sound was eliminated.
@RockyBroadSolarLLCАй бұрын
I hear you. The buzzer sound was my idea, but I hired someone else to edit it. The buzzer was much more annoying than I imagined. Next time I will try one of those movie "take 2" screens. Thanks for the comment and for watching the channel!
@MoleffSports2 ай бұрын
I'm glad Sol-Ark has dropped the made in USA advertising. Also, I've seen too many vids of the Sol-Ark inverter being underpowered. I do like Will Prowse (sp) recent video of the EG4 12k showing the inverter able to start 4 compressors and a car lift without tripping the inverter. I'd love to see if the Sol-Ark 15k can do that. Also, pricing is a huge deal. Lastly, the ferrite filters they add to the panels as an EMP protectant I would have a hard time relying on. I would go with EMP Shield's products, it's much less expensive that paying to EMP hardening the Sol-Ark inverter and you can get all the proper protection for less cost, ie protection from the grid, the solar array and the battery.
@RockyBroadSolarLLCАй бұрын
All great points. Sometime in the future I hope to be conducting more hands on videos with actual equipment, but it doesn't come cheap. Thanks for watching!
@joemontana43702 ай бұрын
I’m pretty sure Tesla has had a meterbase mounted Backup Switch for 2-3 years already. Is this Backup Switch you’re describing different from that one?
@RockyBroadSolarLLCАй бұрын
Nope. I have been a certified Tesla installer for the past 10 years and the Backup Switch just hit the market this year. There are other meter collar adapters out there, but not a Tesla branded one. ConnectDER is a common one. Also some utilities offer them as a form of interconnecting to their grid. Thanks for watching!
@user-dc2ot2tj2b2 ай бұрын
your talking solar not the inverter that is doing the dc to ac
@RockyBroadSolarLLCАй бұрын
That is correct. I am talking the ratio of the DC solar panel array compared to the AC size of the solar inverter. Thanks for watching!
@glennmcgurrin83972 ай бұрын
Do you have a source for the 20,400 watt peak for the 18kpv, I can't find a source for that and having an official source for that would make permits much easier for a project I'm working on.
@RockyBroadSolarLLCАй бұрын
• 0 seconds ago Hi @Glennmcgurrin8397. I received this information via email response when reaching out to EG4 tech support before I created my initial video. I was also not able to find it on the datasheet, which was concerning. Every other inverter manufacturer that I am aware of lists the peak output power in 10 sec intervals on the datasheet other than EG4.
@glennmcgurrin83972 ай бұрын
Where do you get that 10 second power number for the 18kpv? I've been unsuccessfully looking for an official source for a peak output as part of dealing with some compliance issues if I want my ac on it as I'd need the peak output to be above the lcked rotor amps of my ac. If there's an official source for that 20,400 number it will save me a lot of work.
@RockyBroadSolarLLCАй бұрын
Hi @Glennmcgurrin8397. I received this information via email response when reaching out to EG4 tech support before I created my initial video. I was also not able to find it on the datasheet, which was concerning. Every other inverter manufacturer that I am aware of lists the peak output power in 10 sec intervals on the datasheet other than EG4.
@cyumadbrosummit35342 ай бұрын
Build Country of Origin for both...................CHINA
@RockyBroadSolarLLC2 ай бұрын
That is correct. That seems to be the way of the world these days. Thanks for watching!
@matthewsocal254024 күн бұрын
Last I checked, all the best electrical engineers are in China. You can be as gunho as you want, but it doesn't change reality. The US does not lead in electricity and we likely never will.
@Realmccoy8182 ай бұрын
when the dc expansion packs come out, is it possible to add just that to enphase panel system ? or do we need the pw3 and the dc pack can only be added to an existing pw3 ?
@RockyBroadSolarLLC2 ай бұрын
The DC expansion units can only be paired with a PW3 battery. Thanks for watching!
@ushipb002 ай бұрын
Informative Solaredge Ecosystem. Nice work!
@RockyBroadSolarLLC2 ай бұрын
Glad it was helpful! Thank you for watching!
@codyt.3462 ай бұрын
17:00 The Tesla backup switch, eliminates relocating loads to a Backup Load Center. If there’s not enough space in the main panel for the PW3 breaker a generation load center might be needed. 20:05 The PW3 can work with a Generac backup. Main panel, Gateway, Generac breaker in Gateway, then Generac relay, then Backup Load Center.
@RockyBroadSolarLLC2 ай бұрын
Absolutely. In that configuration the generator would not be capable of charing the battery though. It would be first line of defense(solar/batteries) and second line of defense(generator). In my opinion, if you have a fossil fuel powered generator, it is usually best to pair it with a system that can integrate the two power sources all into one system, but that is just a personal opinion. Thanks for watching!
@hasslefree35272 ай бұрын
MAJOR PLUS for EG4 is that in can be installed right on top of the cable trough, because it does not have a requirement for any space at the bottom like the 6" for the Ark-Sol.
@RockyBroadSolarLLC2 ай бұрын
Good call out. I always thought the trough could have been made to look a little more sleek, but it sure does make things easy! Thanks for watching!
@niktak11142 ай бұрын
Unfortunately this data is still incorrect. The max usable PV of the 15k is 18kW (with batteries). Without batteries it's only 15kW like your whiteboard shows. The maximum continuous inverter output without PV is also not a fixed 12kW. The maximum DC discharge rate is 275A and the output is based on that. So lets say the batteries are currently at 52V, after inverter losses it'll be able to output around 13.5kW. The 18kPV has a 250A max battery discharge rate so the maximum inverter output ends up being around 9-10% less than the 15k at a given battery voltage.
@RockyBroadSolarLLC2 ай бұрын
Well thanks for the info and for watching the video!