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Yes let’s go thank you. Purposeful please.

You find when you hit burnout you just wanna sleep or be destracted by a hobhy and just want to switch off from the outside world?

Unmasking infront of co workers has gotten me into trouble...every single time. Once that person enjoys your personality, it becomes a drug. If you put it back on, then all of a sudden, that person doesn't enjoy you as much since you are now turned off and in autopilot and a shell of your actual personality. When you find that person who understands you, others become suspicious and cospire, you have an agenda against them since I open up to 1 and not all of them. Then people think I personally dislike them, but I genuinely know they never whoukd like me anyway.

Excellent video! I'm someone who only smiles when she's happy, and I actually do smile but some people think I don't because I always look like I'm bored or annoyed in photos (it's just my natural expression). I've always refused to do fake smiles for cameras and I'll be in my usual "mouth slightly open" expression in photos that I have all the time when everyone else is smiling, as a result, I got nicknamed "Sourpuss Jamie" by some as a kid for this. Funnily enough, when the sun's in my eyes I make that squinty face that looks like a smile and at first glance I look like I'm constantly smiling. and so people often take photos of me when I'm outside. Like in my photo taken at the beach last summer, I'm not actually smiling but making a "the sun hurts my eyes" face but I still love the photo so I use it everywhere (also, it's the only one that does a good job of hiding my turkey neck, I'm 23 and my neck looks older, sloped at a 45 degree angle despite the fact I'm quite thin, 130 pounds at 5'10"). Thankfully people stopped asking me to smile for photos because they know how uncomfortable it makes me.

Oh my gosh - I just found you/this....THIS is me. Thank you. I feel more hope right now than i have in years....

Great video, thank you :)

What a cute video! Great edits!

I am Autistic, late dignosed and work NHS, initially supported but frequent burnout exasperated by work and no help has led me to being unsupported and on the verge of bullying.

such a fun episode. and i love how you asked "what do I have control over"

Awesome video

We would like for you to interview Andrea. Would like for her to speak about her personal experience with the intersectionailty of being autistic and asian. Thanks!

Dr. Nicole Mahly, is truly a kind hearted person. I have benefited a lot from watching his videos.

22:22 the word yu're looking for is pheromones

Thank you.

'Promosm' 💕

Yes this is true. Stand and listen.

Listen!!!

I thought it was fibromyalgia maybe burnout now I think about it and yes lose my executive function

I am self diagnosed at the moment after having both our daughters assessed at the ages of 12 and 14 years old in November 2023, we are waiting for our son to be assessed for ADHD which although he's been on the waiting list for 2 years nearly and were told it will probably take another 2 years waiting before he is seen. UK NHS. Looking back I think my peri-menopause started in 2019 but I also ended up with a chest infection which moved into phenomena just before COVID was really taking hold in the UK, I noticed several signs like weight gain initially around my middle and even though until the phenomena I was active with 3 young kids I could never loose weight I don't eat much food or lots of sugar etc so there was no reason I shouldn't loose weight, well after that I had a couple of UTIs then all of a sudden the brain fog, face hair, exhaustion and I'm talking I could not sleep at night for the insomnia and the sheer exhaustion I was glad the kids were at school all day because I would be up all night unable to sleep for restless leg and anxiety and couldn't rest, then during the day I would fall asleep as soon as the kids were gone from the house at 8.15am and I could not even move until 3pm sometimes 4pm when or after they were home again, 😢 I have always not slept for long but I suddenly could not stay awake. I didn't get the night sweats that was the only thing in think, i get occasionally warm but not bad, when I was awake i had no energy so was basically making dinner and doing a wash load a day and then spending my time trying to sleep or being asleep. My bones especially my joints like my elbows and fingers and legs were in excruciating pain all the time , but it was the migraines that eventually when I had a 10 day migraine I gave up and went to the doctors after having researched all my symptoms that had taken from 2019 to 2023 to creep up onto me...me going to the doctors after self diagnosing myself as being in perj menopause was the best thing I ever did she put me straight onto patches and i had a blood test which showed me as suddenly being type 2 diabetic even though i hardly eat and don't eat excess junk foods etc (she confirmed that it was probably brought on because I was sleeping soo much and unable to exercise because of the exhaustion and so it was peri menopause induced through inactivity) well within 3 months of being diagnosed as type 2 my bloods were taken again and were back to levels well below the markers for type 2, so now my hormones are sort of in check with the patches the brain fog has gone I don't feel like I'm going mad anymore and I can sleep for 4 hours straight at night and I have been awake most days all day since 2 days after starting the patches. I wish I had known the other symptoms of peri menopause as in had 13 side effects in total when i totted them up, itchy skin (all the time) being another of them too. I saw my doctor in July 2023 and had been suffering in silence for around 4 years before realising something wasn't right. I think there needs to be a proper study into neurodiversity and the effects of peri menopause and menopause because I had to dig deep to find the information that I found all while suffering with imposter syndrome about if I might be autistic as well because of the research that sounded like my life story when reading up on autism in girls while waiting for them to be assessed. I also wonder if the study should include people that self identify as autistic or ADHD or both. I had my 3 kids from the age of 32 my eldest is 14 now, middle daughter is 12 and our son is 10. I will be 47 next month and I am still undecided if I should be assessed myself. I was mortified when after having such awful painful periods from the age of 10 my whole life when my middle child also started at the age of 10 the first day of starting year 6 and both girls have both experienced Painful periods so I made sure they were seen by the doctor because it was awful watching them suffer like I did. They have both been put on a mini pill which has helped a lot with pain. I just wish that had been an option for me when I was 10 I missed out on soo much due to cramps that went on for months...... Sorry for the rambling I just feel us women deserve to finally be heard, and that more study need to happen for Autistic and neurodiverse women and self diagnosed women to be included in the studies too. 😊

Allistic ADHDer here. I had a burnout in college and it took me about 5 years to recover. and what you describe sounds like what I experienced.

This is so great!! Super helpful. Thank you

Thank you for sharing your experiences and for being so open and vulnerable! You're an inspiration! It's amazing to see how you were able to work through your recent challenges with such grace, using your burnout and energy tools. And I love the Carole Jean sense of humor sprinkled in 💗

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I appreciated this podcast.

I really enjoyed this, but also think that the question in the title was not necessarily answered, nor the question "how do you manage adhd burnout in general?" Oliver Fenghour focussed much more on policy changes necessary than what we can do. Which is of course very important, but then the title is a bit misleading.

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Love this ❤

Thank you for this conversation.I identify with so much of what was said❤

You are wonderful Carole!

Thank you.I appreciate that.Going thru a confusing process of sifting thru the effects of childhood trauma and also possibly adhd.Finding out more on both autism and adhd.Unfortunately I do not have any relatives who could have maybe provided evidence from childhood except school reports.I am considering getting a diagnosis privately.I have completed a couple of online tests which say that I am on the spectrum but I feel a formal diagnosis would go a long way so that it’s either ruled in or ruled out

This is so powerful and is spot on and I have found it so helpful as you both give a very clear and caring view.Im currently in the process of self diagnosing ❤

Ooh, 'burnout was keeping me broke'... that's such a great observation and I think it's true for so many. You talked about recovering from burnout and having that bandwidth to work on your money health, which I think is an empowering thought for those struggling with this issue. Bryan, I LOVED when you said 'plan for the best and make sure you're okay with the rest'! Great episode Bryan & Carole Jean, your whole conversation really puts things into perspective!

This was amazing

So helpful!! Thanks for sharing this information on energy!

This is so me, I’m tearing up listening to this. I’ve struggle for so long… I was diagnosed with ADHD about a year ago but realized recently that I’ve been heavily masking autism my whole life. I’m 44. I started surgical menopause in 2018, but my AuDHD has gotten so much worse in the past 1-2 years. I do ok at work but I can barely function in my everyday life and feel like such a failure. I’m looking into getting an official diagnosis because I desperately need help.

And how does one no if we have cysts on penal gland

Do you have heds to or hypermobile

Do you have video recommendations for supervisors of autistic employees? I'm on the spectrum but I don't even know how to have adjustments for myself or discussions with my boss. Great observation on why we overwork. Didn't realize that's why I push myself so hard. 17:35

so excited for this book! ever since i first heard Shell on a podcast earlier this year - I have had that thought in my memory and it kept popping up: I wonder if her book is out yet? ☺ great convo you guys... thanks so much. I have been in a cycle of repeated burn outs all my adult life and got diagnosed adhd at 55 and have a few others now too! all happened when I had just made some major life changes and decided to go back to work after leaving at 22! so before it's too late I really want to try and uncover what work I should pursue coz the work I'm in does not fit on many accounts.... that was a long waffle I know ..... what can I say 😏soz

Becuse I heard of it on a diffrent app once

Can I get his channel

I saw his channel once show me

19:25 I mention being accused of Fauxtism,or fake autism. The Spotify auto transcript (which helps a lot) generated this wrong. It’s a word coined by an AutismMom.

Lovely! I haven't heard a lot of other people talk about the difference between rest and sleep period I tell my friends that we need rest, and most of us rest while we sleep.

Is it likely that females with autism and adhd will have sex with strangers to avoid a connection ?

Thank you so much for this insightful episode! I am new on my autism journey, 46 & self-diagnosed. The realisation dropped in as a slow recognising around 4 months ago, and the last 8 weeks have been so much validation, information and a deep knowing in my bones! I even think I have autistic burnout from processing the realisation of autism, and revisiting my whole life through this lense. I have listened to 37 episodes of Melissa's podcast, it has been so so helpful! Thank you for this further insight into rest, I know the principles of many different types of rest but haven't heard it explained in a way that my brain could understand before. I've been diagnosed with CFS/ME, but wonder if it was autistic burnout all along, and am seeing many times in my life that this was probable happening - dropping out of school and uni, being made redundant from jobs - it's a lot of times that I have felt critised or a failure, where now I realise - Oh, that's just my autism! I'm also pretty sure now that I have Alexithymia too. Thank you 🙏