iFi Zen DAC 3 Burr-Brown MultiBit DAC Review
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@cezarygoclowski2069
@cezarygoclowski2069 16 сағат бұрын
Comprehshive review as always. Thank you. Could you compare this new dac to SMSL SU-X which you have reviewed previously. I'm interesting becouse both use the same chipset: dual ES9039 and almost similar PSU: toroidal transformers (single in SMSL and dual in Gustard).
@toai2
@toai2 17 сағат бұрын
Would it be a good idea to pair this DAC with an Onkyo receiver? Or this DAC is designed to pair with an high-end integrated amp only?
@Tharbamar
@Tharbamar 15 сағат бұрын
It is all I to you.
@sendler2112
@sendler2112 19 сағат бұрын
I find a remarkable improvement in sound for the Gustard X26 III with the LAN input receiving NAA from HQ Player in preference to the ASIO over a Supra Excalibur USB cable. I don't have a converter for IIS yet. The LAN input is blacker between the instruments and cleaner to reveal more micro details. The USB is warmer and easier. There are also further improvements with using external upsampling in HQ Player and sending that in through the NOS setting with both PCM 768 and converting my PCM files to SDM. When you get to SDM 512, the sound is as good as it gets with even clearer edge definition of the images and fine detail while at the same time providing an improvement in a pleasant and natural timbre. Even if SDM 512 has my gaming laptop pegged at 80 Watts from the wall and at the limits of its cooling, it is worth a few extra electrons to hear that close and deep into the recording
@Tharbamar
@Tharbamar 15 сағат бұрын
Great feedback on the X26 III's performance with LAN input and HQ Player, sounds like you've unlocked some serious sonic potential!
@grandmasterjo1
@grandmasterjo1 20 сағат бұрын
Before buying the Ultra I was using a $10 DAC from Amazon which I connected to my Samsung TV via optical Out of the TV The RCA out into my KRK powered monitors What I heard was very nice and surprising The hi res stood out. I got the Ultra $370 ( I paid being outside usa ) after many excellent reviews on utube When I connected my ultra I was shocked. The results were almost same from both DACs 😢 I played Spotify and Apple Music from the Apple TV app through my Amazon DAC and I was pleased I then heard the same material on my Ultra via Spotify connect and Apple Music via my Apple TV hardware through optical into the Ultra The results were almost alike Maybe a 5-8% better. Apple TV movies again sounded the same on both DACs. The sound imaging was almost alike. The ultra uses the ESS Sabre ES9038Q2M dac chip the same as in the Audiolab 7000A which sells for $1000 * I have been listening to hi end music for many 30 plus years
@justasimplefox
@justasimplefox 21 сағат бұрын
Anyone uses digital coax from streamer? How is the quality with these Gustards? Thanks
@Tharbamar
@Tharbamar 20 сағат бұрын
All SPDIF input sound great, I did use COAX input on X26 III with WiiM Ultra.
@NoOneFolk
@NoOneFolk 23 сағат бұрын
How is the sound quality when playing music via Bluetooth? Plz reply thank u 😊
@Tharbamar
@Tharbamar 21 сағат бұрын
Sound is ok via Bluetooth, thanks
@NoOneFolk
@NoOneFolk 21 сағат бұрын
@Tharbamar Does it support Qualcomm aptX HD? Or comparable with QC bluetooth chip sound level thank u
@Tharbamar
@Tharbamar 20 сағат бұрын
@ sorry it’s been awhile since I reviewed this amp, I don’t remember the details.
@NoOneFolk
@NoOneFolk 20 сағат бұрын
@@Tharbamar ok thanks
@theoriginalbamboorollingtip
@theoriginalbamboorollingtip 23 сағат бұрын
Topping is doing the best implementation of the TI 3255...
@liamporter1137
@liamporter1137 Күн бұрын
Great review. Look better than Denafrips.
@pablito86
@pablito86 Күн бұрын
x26 iii is on your top 5 dac? Would you raccomend an upgrade from x26 pro to x26 iii and why? What's the difference between x26 iii and x30 in terms of sound quality?
@martinwtaylor
@martinwtaylor 21 сағат бұрын
I have upgraded from X26 Pro to X26 III. The III is slightly better in every aspect of sound: fine detail, soundstage, dynamics, bass texture and depth, midrange voice. It adds up to quite a lot better and is a no-brainer at the price.
@pablito86
@pablito86 18 сағат бұрын
Are you using a streamer connected to the x26 iii?
@autonomous-hm5yf
@autonomous-hm5yf Күн бұрын
Those pioneer speakers are excellent 👍
@Harvy75a
@Harvy75a Күн бұрын
I don't understand why Gustard uses the XMOS XU216 on a unità of 1600$/€... Also for my SMSL DO200 to the DO200 mk2 SMSL upgraded it to the XMOS XU316...
@Harvy75a
@Harvy75a Күн бұрын
Can I use it as a pure DAC using a different PRE?
@Tharbamar
@Tharbamar Күн бұрын
Yes 👍
@beslemeto
@beslemeto Күн бұрын
Hello Tharbamar! Which speakers are your favourite at the moment?
@Tharbamar
@Tharbamar Күн бұрын
Hi, two of my main speakers that you see in the videos, thanks
@christiantessier1661
@christiantessier1661 Күн бұрын
Thanks to give us good idea and comparaison between various Gustard top model. I havé thé x26 pro,amazing with my totem Forest speakers
@Tharbamar
@Tharbamar Күн бұрын
X26 Pro is a great DAC, thanks for sharing your experience.
@G3rain1
@G3rain1 Күн бұрын
Better than Holo Cyan 2?
@beslemeto
@beslemeto Күн бұрын
I don't think so!
@Tharbamar
@Tharbamar Күн бұрын
Definitely, X26 III is better in many ways and bass control is much better, as always sound is subjective but in general X26 III is better choice IMHO.
@richardhernandez6937
@richardhernandez6937 Күн бұрын
Can someone answer this question. Do you absolutely need a LAN wire connection in order to operate this DAC? I have a Spotify account but in order to play Spotify connect on this DAC a LAN wire connection is mandatory.
@Tharbamar
@Tharbamar Күн бұрын
LAN is necessary, most Gustard DAC do not use WiFi.
@richardhernandez6937
@richardhernandez6937 Күн бұрын
A follow up question. If I chose to use AirPlay to play Spotify music from my iPad to this DAC, a LAN connection is not necessary right? I know AirPlay is not as good as using Spotify connect.
@Tharbamar
@Tharbamar Күн бұрын
@ please keep in mind without LAN X26 III will be offline but X26 still show up on airplay list but it will not connect without LAN in my experience.
@eddiealvarez7584
@eddiealvarez7584 Күн бұрын
Excellent review as always! How much of an upgrade would this Gustard x26 llI be over an older Loxjie D50 dac I currently own? Looking to upgrade. Thx
@Tharbamar
@Tharbamar Күн бұрын
It is good upgrade, it would be significant in right system, thank you.
@hoobsgroove
@hoobsgroove Күн бұрын
yeah sounds really good the vocals are nice bit soft on the top end tho! what amp did you use with it? the a20 will probably sound nice match. also that 100 ohm cat5 cable have you tried it yet?? you're be amazed gives an open sound
@Tharbamar
@Tharbamar Күн бұрын
I’m using with Accuphase E-4000 amplifier, all CAT5 cables I have 100 Ohm to tell you the difference 😀
@hoobsgroove
@hoobsgroove Күн бұрын
@Tharbamar but you're not using any CAT cable as interconnects for digital signal? did you not try the galleon a20 amplifier with this DAC? didn't used it last time ?
@Tharbamar
@Tharbamar Күн бұрын
@@hoobsgroove I’m only using CAT8 cables now for networking, yes I did try TS A20 it was ok
@bluev2srt
@bluev2srt Күн бұрын
I paired up a gustard x30 with hifi rose rs`130 for my system and I am amazed at how it sounds. I have an r26 which isgreat at its price point as well! Gustard is doing some great dacs that are reasonable priced for what you get
@Tharbamar
@Tharbamar Күн бұрын
Yes, Gustard DACs are great value for money!
@AdiMaco
@AdiMaco Күн бұрын
This is a good DAC!
@Harvy75a
@Harvy75a Күн бұрын
There is a discount of 15% for some days on most dacs in some major sites...
@Harvy75a
@Harvy75a Күн бұрын
Hi, what about versus Topping D90 III Discrete?
@Tharbamar
@Tharbamar Күн бұрын
It’s in different price point.
@Lion-vv8dq
@Lion-vv8dq Күн бұрын
Thanks for the review, it's interesting. Denafrips Pontus 15TH - which one do you like more? Thanks
@Tharbamar
@Tharbamar Күн бұрын
I have not tried Pontus 15th in my system yet, thanks
@OffordDarcy
@OffordDarcy Күн бұрын
Which Denon amp is that?
@Tharbamar
@Tharbamar Күн бұрын
Sold Denon PMA-2000IVR Amplifier For Same Price As I Bought 20 Years Ago kzbin.infopG1GLE1-Jvk?feature=share
@OffordDarcy
@OffordDarcy Күн бұрын
@Tharbamar thank you!
@Frank-cm3wp
@Frank-cm3wp Күн бұрын
Which one sounds better to you, d90 III Discrete or Denafrips Ares 15th, based on your own taste?
@Tharbamar
@Tharbamar Күн бұрын
It would be tough but if I have to pick one D90 III Discrete is my choice, thanks
@TheMrColak
@TheMrColak Күн бұрын
Evos sound much better. Have more bass too. Voice more natural. Elysian sound shill, less bass, less body to the voice.
@drakeforte568
@drakeforte568 Күн бұрын
Sounds good but the test track not very good.. musicians good, singer sucks..like most of the audiophille tracks.
@r2d3vadar92
@r2d3vadar92 Күн бұрын
Dear Tharbamar, I love your review and I "looked" "heard" almost purchase the KLH 5 but did not. If you Can, Please Explain to me why My 2007 JBL 4 way full range Expert Series 80 towers sounded more "neutral" and more "musical" than the KLH 5 that cost 4x more than what I paid for my speakers 17 yrs ago? Thank you. I am trying to understand what I need to look at for better speaker than what I have?
@Tharbamar
@Tharbamar Күн бұрын
Hi, as always sound is subjective and depends on paring components, please compare sensitivity of the speakers first before you listen to them and make sure to use with good amplifier, acoustics suspension design needs more of power supply energy than rated watts in general to bring the best out from it, thanks
@r2d3vadar92
@r2d3vadar92 Күн бұрын
@@Tharbamar Thank you Tharbamar!
@edw5386
@edw5386 Күн бұрын
a streamer would be useful, just a good player without a dac,at a normal acceptable price
@massimilianomilanese504
@massimilianomilanese504 Күн бұрын
Hallo Tharbamar. Pairing with the warm sound of speakers Wharfedale LINTON 85th, is it good an R2R DAC like Pegasus II or is it better something of more transparent like a Sabre delta-sigma (for example D90III or SU-X) in order to balance a bit? Thanks so much.
@Tharbamar
@Tharbamar Күн бұрын
Based on my experience with Linton 85th, Pegasus II should pair well together. Some DS DAC may sound like lacking body and texture but as always sound is subjective and depends on paring components, Thank you.
@Djk0t
@Djk0t Күн бұрын
hi there Thank you again for the excellent reviews. Quick question what usbc to usb b and usbc to usbc cable would you recommend for connecting to DAC equivalent to Oyaide USB Cable Continental 5S. This is a usba cable and I use an apple adapter to convert to usbc. I would appreciate you input.
@ottosato
@ottosato 2 күн бұрын
Your voice so smooooooth and mesmerizing. Remind me at Tidal loudspeaker in Munich show 2023. Are u already married?
@chengo51
@chengo51 2 күн бұрын
How it goes without the IFI added PSU ? What model is that PSU ?
@chengo51
@chengo51 2 күн бұрын
Oh sorry I didn't look at the list underneath where everything is mentioned .
@PeterBishop89
@PeterBishop89 2 күн бұрын
How would you personally describe the difference in sound betweent the external DAC SMSL SU-1 and the internal DAC of your Eversolo DMP-6?
@handokosetiawan2803
@handokosetiawan2803 2 күн бұрын
Warm sound, i like them!
@humanitech
@humanitech 2 күн бұрын
Interesting review ....but curious if you might consider trying a tiny chord mojo2 headphone dac / amp/ preamp? As some have used it in a hifi setup and raved about it!
@chrishmeet
@chrishmeet 2 күн бұрын
Did you hear this Dac with the TS A20?
@johannmayer6164
@johannmayer6164 2 күн бұрын
Hi Tharbamar, thanks so much for another great review on an affordable HiFi product for us people who don't want to spend thousends of Dollars/Euros to just enjoy HiFi music like other high-end enthusiasts do who have infinite money to spend. My question: Is this iFi Audio ZEN DAC 3 better than the built in DAC in EVERSOLO DMP-A8 which you have reviewed as well already. My chain is: streamer EVERSOLO DMP-A8, pre-amp Musical Paradise MP-701 MK3, amplifier FM300A clone, speakers Wharfedale Elysian 4. If it is better, could you explain what in detail you think is better than the one in EVERSOLO.
@johannmayer6164
@johannmayer6164 2 күн бұрын
In my above chain I have a vintage ARISTON CD player too with built in DAC chip Philips TDA1541. It has a good musical sound too and I am happy with it but do you think when using ZEN DAC 3 it could be even better?
@Zhorellski
@Zhorellski 2 күн бұрын
How would compare this with your Accuphase E4000?
@ec6843
@ec6843 2 күн бұрын
These speakers suck. The highs are so artificially boosted and the female vocals are recessed and veiled. Typical B&W nonsense.
@massimilianomilanese504
@massimilianomilanese504 2 күн бұрын
Hi. Do you think that if I connect EVERSOLO DMP-A6 to SMSL SU-10 (via USB) I could have an obvious upgrade? Anyway, is the difference enought to justify? (I found a used SU-10 at less than 500 Euro). Thanks for your opinion.
@Tharbamar
@Tharbamar 2 күн бұрын
It should be nice improvement but please keep in mind sound is always subjective, thanks
@massimilianomilanese504
@massimilianomilanese504 2 күн бұрын
@@Tharbamar If you say it's worth I'll take your opinion into consideration. I like Eversolo's bass, but I would like a DAC that maintains a dry and defined bass with more naturalness in the mid range. SU-10 could be the one at a good price (used). Thanks.
@massimilianomilanese504
@massimilianomilanese504 2 күн бұрын
@@TharbamarI also look for a bit more of sound stage!