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@rickychardzz
@rickychardzz Күн бұрын
T90 titans league, gold league. Ganji vs sebastian was amazing
@Robert-sq7bp
@Robert-sq7bp 2 күн бұрын
Check out manaless dredge in mtg
@BlazonStone
@BlazonStone 2 күн бұрын
i cant strategize for shit and Im happy playing AOE2 at 800 elo for lifetime
@Majiger
@Majiger 2 күн бұрын
100% agree on that strategy games need these sorts of strategies. People get so stuck on metas that they refuse to try and experiment to try and find something that might be better or will beat the meta. I would be very sad if the devs decide to kill these strats for no reason other people are frustrated and refuse to learn to play against something.
@boatman2801
@boatman2801 2 күн бұрын
Your videos are unbelievably high quality. We in the AOE2 scene are so fortunate that you are a part of the community. Keep it up Tiramis!!
@Tiramis_
@Tiramis_ 2 күн бұрын
Thank you for watching and for your kind words! :)
@NachoAoE
@NachoAoE 2 күн бұрын
Amazing video as always! I have a very fun anecdote! In spanish speaking community I casted hoang since he did a full all-in Drush with huns and then CA castling at min 22. And since he was 1800 I've been covering a game of him at least twice a month (since like 2012). This guy is so well known in spanish speaking community that he himself chose to call himself "juan" which is what our people call Hoang since that's how it sounds like. He is a lovely guy and till this day one my favourite players. Red phoshporu is top player, absolutely love him aswell <3
@Tiramis_
@Tiramis_ 2 күн бұрын
That's a great anectode! I had never heard of it 11 Thank for sharing and for the kind words :)
@fouratiahmed4878
@fouratiahmed4878 3 күн бұрын
and I was thinking Pudding and phosphoru were the same person 1111
@ezio_aoe821
@ezio_aoe821 3 күн бұрын
best strategy game ever
@jacobwood3326
@jacobwood3326 3 күн бұрын
Great video, thank you!! Really looking forward to the next one!
@Tiramis_
@Tiramis_ 2 күн бұрын
Thank you for watching :)
@Eurynomos326
@Eurynomos326 3 күн бұрын
Aoe2 players discovering that timing pushes exist has been very fun to watch. Jk, aoe2 is a fuckin hard game to optimise. The timings will probably never get as tight as StarCraft.
@Thomas_Jv
@Thomas_Jv 3 күн бұрын
As always, very interesting video even for someone who's only played the game on Windows 98 ;)
@Tiramis_
@Tiramis_ 2 күн бұрын
glad to hear it :)
@isaisotarriva8162
@isaisotarriva8162 4 күн бұрын
And that is how wet got to the current era of aoe2. FC into wood-gold UU.
@markusdegenhardt8678
@markusdegenhardt8678 4 күн бұрын
Im deeply anoyed by these cheese all in strategys. I have to admit that the idea behind took a lot of creativity. But since it once got established there is no creativity involved in executing these all ins which are so difficult to counter. I consider that abusing the over powered units which should have been nerfed a long time ago.
@markusdegenhardt8678
@markusdegenhardt8678 4 күн бұрын
The unintended feature? Quick walls
@Dubistgenial
@Dubistgenial 4 күн бұрын
Micromanagment?
@maomaopvp
@maomaopvp 4 күн бұрын
Although I don’t play AoE2 I love the content you put here, I think the community should be very happy to have you covering these topics! Enjoyed the vid a lot!
@jamietaylorjamietaylorjam
@jamietaylorjamietaylorjam 4 күн бұрын
Great content bro
@danieltoth9742
@danieltoth9742 4 күн бұрын
The strategies themselves are really cool. The big problem is how much easier they are to pull off than to counter. If they were just as highly effective but also took an appropriately high level of skill to pull off, they would be fine -- good for the game, even. IDK how that could be solved, though...
@mrTeamanlol
@mrTeamanlol 4 күн бұрын
tree hunting? unit stacking? there are so many unintentional features in this game haha
@bilbobagainsaoe
@bilbobagainsaoe 4 күн бұрын
People have no idea the amount of street credit Red Phosphoru has on the 1000-17000 elo range. Everyone is either doing his strats, playing against them or talking about them on a regular basis
@fasstaerke
@fasstaerke 4 күн бұрын
whereas AoK hasnt been changed often enough, AOEII since DE is in my opinion being changed way to much. exibit A: celts nerv because of one player who did find a successful strat with a very mediocre civ. that is just stupid from microsoft, takes aways variety even thoug its a one trick pony strat. its not OP if 1-5 players in the world use ist plus its so hard to execute perfectly.
@2010Cortana
@2010Cortana 4 күн бұрын
easy fix for all these strats. nerf the f market. thanks dev
@ar1sm70
@ar1sm70 4 күн бұрын
Fantastic video once again!
@NedtureTVT
@NedtureTVT 4 күн бұрын
Fun fact, in tornaments phosphorus and youpudding has potential, for example Lierrey lose against a freakin andy with Portuguese, and barles win against dogao with youpudding in "S" tier tournaments And many more examples
@Tiramis_
@Tiramis_ 2 күн бұрын
Definitely!
@xacxdcx
@xacxdcx 4 күн бұрын
Good video! It's a shame you didn't go more in depth about the call you had RedPhosphorus, or explain more about who he is or his strategies.
@lordesfairgenug
@lordesfairgenug 4 күн бұрын
As someone who just started playing aoe2 competitively recently: How were the celts nerfed? When I look into the patch logs, I only see buffs like woad raider more hitpoints and attack, ring archer armor added and stronghold buffed? The only thing I see is that the infantry speed bonus no longer applies in dark age, which takes away the bonus for a drush as celts, but hoang was not performing drush? Or was drush a crucial part of the all-in with hoang with rams? Would like to get an answer to this as it confuses me. On the topic itself as a game dev and having played many other RTS competitively: It's absolutely not a problem if such strategies emerge. It enriches gameplay and diversity of games and it is very interesting to see what happens when 2 of those strategies bump into each other like fc rathas vs. fc war wagons and so on. Does one UU emerge as the best of all those in a meta, where everyone is doing ths stuff? In such a case, something must be done. Or does it change the game to no longer anyone wins with this as 2 such UU strats bump into each other usually and then both have to start getting 2nd TC and then 3rd also makes sense and the game just has a new default opening which includes UUs and not only scout/archer. Of course it must be balanced, but that does not mean it will be nerfed out of the meta. It can be balanced so that FC into UU is just another opening that works with like 10-20% of the civs. In such a meta players just have to accept that they need to get a defensive castle up fast so they will no longer be overrun by rathas etc.
@Tiramis_
@Tiramis_ 3 күн бұрын
The drush was indeed a big part of the Hoang Rush, I remember seeing him making 4-5 even 6 militia, which would allow him to fast castle in peace.
@jshally1852
@jshally1852 4 күн бұрын
Next video will be on quick walling 100%
@santiagodc89
@santiagodc89 4 күн бұрын
Dude, you are "the spirit of the law" of aoe2 stories, I hope you can keep producing this videos, your chanel will grow a lot! cheers!
@samajhdarprani5779
@samajhdarprani5779 4 күн бұрын
With every episode you are going more and more crazy. Keep on the good work.
@samajhdarprani5779
@samajhdarprani5779 4 күн бұрын
Is the split micro?
@EokaBeamer69
@EokaBeamer69 4 күн бұрын
your vids are a true banger
@joelw1730
@joelw1730 4 күн бұрын
Next video--quickwalling?
@markdowse3572
@markdowse3572 4 күн бұрын
Great strategies are superb. NEW, great strategies are innovative and difficult and can take the AoE2 world to another level! 😄😄 Remember, AoE2 is 25 years old... 🤣 Thanks for another excellent video, Tiramis. 👍 G'day from Australia! M 🦘🏏😎
@gingerbeard3341
@gingerbeard3341 4 күн бұрын
9:32 the main issue with those all-in strategies is that very often the game become a coin toss, especially at higher levels. Pro players also innovates pretty much all the time but aiming for more consistent strategies, which may be less exciting to watch and are more difficult to replicate.
@SheeceGardazi
@SheeceGardazi 4 күн бұрын
its silly that devs keep on nefing ligit strats .... using buildings for walling ? 11
@janseidel4849
@janseidel4849 4 күн бұрын
Love this again. Keep it up. ❤
@stefschuermans8438
@stefschuermans8438 4 күн бұрын
imagine if you would make monks and they never nerfed monks ... it would have been no problem ... But hamsters ruined monks ...
@TsvetanVuchkovTeam
@TsvetanVuchkovTeam 4 күн бұрын
Phosphoru is an innovator but he cant move beyond 2200 with his strats. Having a few allins in your arsenal is fine but he has nothing else. You need to be able to play a normal game too if you want to progress. He catches people a few times and then they figure him out and his cheese no longer works. Standard play is harder to pull off but its not capped like that.
@castofempires
@castofempires 4 күн бұрын
Fantastic video!
@Tiramis_
@Tiramis_ 4 күн бұрын
Thank you! :)
@nicholaswoollhead6830
@nicholaswoollhead6830 4 күн бұрын
Thanks for making these videos mate, they really make the game feel so alive.
@alexfraughton9938
@alexfraughton9938 4 күн бұрын
Just wanna point out, in the beginning you say these cheese strats that cut villager production don't work against pros... Which is not necessarily true. Sure, pros are going to be much better equipped to deal with these strats but even someone like Hera can lose the odd game to Hoang from time to time
@CG-eh6oe
@CG-eh6oe 4 күн бұрын
Another masterpiece. Pls keep making those.
@MRRookie232
@MRRookie232 4 күн бұрын
Good episode although the volume was all over the place here mate. Your audio is a lot lower than the music tracks and other audio sources.
@JG-nm9zk
@JG-nm9zk 4 күн бұрын
And still no strategist has found a way to make Bulgarians viable
@harooooo1
@harooooo1 4 күн бұрын
10:05 deer luring :D ?
@LuisManuelRoballoAlvarez
@LuisManuelRoballoAlvarez 2 күн бұрын
It must definitely be deer luring.
@gerbassman
@gerbassman 4 күн бұрын
Pushing deer...
@PoopLord
@PoopLord 4 күн бұрын
Loved the video man! Do you have a discord? or way to contact?
@Whokare
@Whokare 4 күн бұрын
The main problem with phosphorus strategies are they are just way too simple and easy to do. It’s basically game breaking. Someone spends months learning meta and trying to get good and 2k+ players are dying to this. Even phosphorus said that he could not get that high with hoang strategy. That is what makes hoang unique. It actually had a super high skill ceiling with the strategy. These strategies are too easy and strong. If that is how the devs want the future of aoe and the ladder to be then so be it. It feels like age has become so much more stupid than the old strategy game I loved and played for years.
@Lokalo1
@Lokalo1 4 күн бұрын
yeah exactly. Those Tiramis's words are lil bit weird at the end where he says he likes off meta strats. Daut does off meta strats in tournaments with m@a rushes and stuff. This red phosphoru bs where you cant even counter is not a off meta strat, but OP one. Like I played vs same guy twice, first time i lost fine, second guy i knew exactly what he is doing with bengalis, i had tons of skirms to counter rathas, but pathing screws you a bit and if ratha gets on top of skirms they like 3shot them. Is just dumb. Usually aoe2 is and always been about balance and if you go full in you are on huge timer, but when you spam castle age unit non stop vs feudal or early castle age there is nothing balanced about it. And I would actually liked a bit more coverage, where F1re lost to Viper's korean fc phosphoru thing. Like it does work even at super top level, because those units do not have a counter early on
@blackgoku2023
@blackgoku2023 4 күн бұрын
Tiramis is now my fav aoe 2 content creator after viper. So informative and so much enjoy to watch these vids
@Tiramis_
@Tiramis_ 4 күн бұрын
Dang, that's big! Thanks!
@cristianbarriostoro589
@cristianbarriostoro589 4 күн бұрын
yes!! please don't nerf Bengalis, people just need time to figure out how to defend, its a strategy game, you supposed to spend some time strategyzing