the CCC is based on the Scriptures what are you talking about?

@@bilobilo56 Yet it isn't. There are no verses saying Mary was always a virgin. There are no verses saying she was always sin-free. There are none saying she was immaculately born. No say she is the queen of heaven or the new ark.

Are you dating hell prevailed against Christs church in 1962? The original language of the church wasn’t Latin. Jesus spoke Aramaic and the Bible was written in Greek. The first church probably held mass in Hebrew. Jesus didn’t even speak Latin that we know of. It became Latin because that was the common language of the west. Is your over fixation on church discipline keeping you from the graces of the sacraments?

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Good question. The sinner should admit and acknowledge their wrongdoing, and repent, and ask for forgiveness from those harmed, but as we know that does not always happen. If someone has harmed someone else, and refuses to admit it or repent or seek forgiveness, then they carry that unrepented sin with them. For the one harmed by that unrepented sin, they are called to forgive the sinner anyway, and move on. If the two are to be reconciled, the sinner will have to eventually admit the wrongdoing and seek reconciliation. Forgiveness requires only one, and so is always possible. Reconciliation requires two, and therefore sometimes is not possible.

Excellent question, Holey. And thanks for watching. You are 100% right, I can't begin to imagine the horror of having monsters like that for parents. I have also known a number of people who have, including some who have fought their way to the point of being able to forgive their parents and move on, although of course they are still affected, and of course they still carry the wounds. In those cases honoring your parents amounts to no more than forgiving them and acknowledging that they gave you life. That's enough. They don't have to condone, or excuse, or rationalize the evil their parents did to them, or pretend it wasn't evil. No matter how messed up their lives are as a result, while there is life there is hope. I pray there is a time coming for them that will be better than what they are going through now. I go into this topic a little more in the video I did on forgiveness. Here's the link, if you're interested: kzbin.info/www/bejne/sKaweWmii8t1hqs

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Forgiveness although we all desire it and as Christians should freely give it, is not a requirement to be received in order to be in right relationship with God. We are called to forgive one another as Christ has forgiven us. The fact that I don’t receive it, although likely very painful is not a requirement. The onus of responsibility falls on the individual and as the Our Father prayer states- forgive us our trespass as we forgive those who trespass against us.- we cannot expect to receive forgiveness from God if we are unwilling to forgive others. I hope this is helpful.

@@jenniferkyere8904 read the Bible verse though, it says if forgiveness is asked seven times, forgive seven times. It doesn’t say to forgive the unrepentant.

Yes, meaning that every time we are asked to forgive, we must forgive, but you cannot control the unrepentant person to seek forgiveness- they have free will. So we the ones who have been hurt have a choice to make- Jesus says forgive your enemies- forgive those who torment you. This is the most challenging because it goes against our human logic- Jesus tells us to deny yourself, pick up your cross and follow me. Some of Jesus' disciples grumbled saying these teachings are hard and stopped following him. Again, the Christian life is not an easy one. But if we believe that all things work out good for those who love Him, we just have defer all things to God.

Good question, Hidden, and good responses, Jennifer! It might help to make a distinction between forgiveness and reconciliation. To be reconciled takes two - both parties have to own up to any wrongdoing and agree to apologize and forgive. Forgiveness only takes one. I can - and must - forgive those who hurt me, even if they are unrepentant, even if reconciliation is impossible, even if they refuse to admit they did anything wrong. In those cases forgiveness is as much for me, as it is for them. There is an old saying, "To forgive someone is to set a prisoner free, and to realize the prisoner was you." I go into more detail in this video on precisely this topic: kzbin.info/www/bejne/sKaweWmii8t1hqs

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As far as I'm aware, forgiveness and justice are not opposed

Good question, Vincent. One of the myriad mysteries of the divine will is the balance of the perfect mercy and perfect justice of God. As for how that transfers to us, I think the first clue is Christ crucified - as Peter Kreeft has said for years, that sacrifice is how God satisfies the justice owed to sinners: Jesus gets the justice, we get the mercy. For our part, we are commanded repeatedly to be merciful and forgive. Human justice, where it works for reform and repentance is good and necessary, but when it comes to the question of whether or not I ought to forgive someone - even someone entirely unrepentant - the answer is always a resounding "Yes". In those situations I think we ought to give mercy, and leave the justice to God.

A lot of criminals and abusers like to twist forgiveness by saying things like "if you genuinely forgave me then you wouldn't be pressing charges against me" or if you have a restraining order against the person they say the same thing as well. I know of other victims of abuse who've been accused of being unforgiving for similar reasons. Or "if you truly forgave your abuser, God would've healed your PTSD from the abuse you forgave him for putting you through." I've had to learn the hard way that forgiveness, justice and healing are three separate things. It's especially confusing when you tell the person who abused you that you forgive them and he tells that he did nothing wrong and later accuses you of being "unforgiving." What really clarified forgiveness for me is to define forgiveness as genuinely willing the good for those who have offended you. Seeking justice isn't vengeful. People who commit offenses that are considered crimes in our society must be brought to justice in order to keep other potential victims safe.

@@HFICatholic Message of His Holiness Pope John Paul II for the Celebration of the `World Day of Peace 1 January 2002 NO PEACE WITHOUT JUSTICE NO JUSTICE WITHOUT FORGIVENESS 8. But what does forgiveness actually mean? And why should we forgive? *Forgiveness is above all a personal choice, a decision of the heart to go against the natural instinct to pay back evil with evil. The measure of such a decision is the love of God who draws us to himself in spite of our sin. It has its perfect exemplar in the forgiveness of Christ, who on the Cross prayed: “Father, forgive them; for they know not what they do” (Lk 23:34).

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Give it time; keep praying; and invite the Holy Spirit into the situation every time the memory resurfaces. The Holy Spirit will lead you to not only forgiveness, but will open your heart up to forgiveness, compassion, and (in my case) mercy towards the one who offended you. God Bless you!

I will pray for strength and grace for you in your situation - the Holy Spirit will bless and multiply your efforts!

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