Well, I've never heard that said, but to be fair, I can see how aspiration can be a concern. That said, I've never had that be an issue, but most importantly, they simply must be treated immediately. You can't wait for them to become conscious again to treat them because they may not ever wake up if you wait. I don't know if you've ever had a kitten crash to have seen it first hand, but they go downhill very quickly. FKS protocol is often your very last chance to save them. Also, keep in mind how little .1ml actually is. You're administering very small doses while they are unconscious.

@FosterTheFelines I'm an RN it's dangerous to administer anything orally on an unconscious person yes for obvious reasons of aspiration and choking. I have limited experience with animals, however I understand there can be exceptions made. Maybe a clarification is needed here....is the Karo mixture applied sublingual? Again, choking is a major concern. I know time is of the essence. For unconscious diabetics there is glucagon...I wonder if that's not available for animals.

@claudiafahey1353 I'm sure glucagon would work just fine for animals but in animal rescue, Karo is the go-to. It is very effective, easily obtainable, affordable, and easy to administer. Not many foster families are able to be trained in administering injections. There are glucose gels, of course, that would work well for this purpose but again, Karo is much more affordable. We often have to purchase our own supplies and most of our fosters (nor the shelter/rescue) just can't afford things like that. Another issue is that many of the people I help with this video have very little experience and are trying to save a kitten with what is available. They are not likely to have glucose gel at home. But they might have Karo, honey, or maple syrup. I'm not sure what kind of clarification you are suggesting... It's pretty straightforward; place the kitten in an uptight position, insert the tip of the syringe in the side of the mouth, and slowly push the solution into the mouth. If the kitten has lost his swallowing reflex, the excess solution will just spill back out. This is why I stress the importance of positioning.

To add, follow the chart in the protocol to start giving fewer doses as you see progress. If the kittrn becomes unresponsive after doing better, you go back to every 3 minutes.

It's really hard to know the exact reason a kitten starts going downhill. A lot of vets won't even do anything for young kittens, they just recommend euthanasia. But we do know that hypothermia and hypoglycemia are often involved, so keeping them warm and raising their blood sugar is the best thing you can do. Kittens go downhill fast so it's important to make sure these two things are addressed asap. Unless you have immediate access to a vet that will test the kitten, you won't know for certain. However, it won't hurt to give them the sugar if it is not, in fact, too low. To be completely honest, when a kitten starts crashing, they could be hours or even minutes away from death. I don't say this to scare you but it's the truth. That's why this protocol is so intense; it's often your very last chance to save them. So you just have to watch for all the symptoms I list in the video and do your best to follow the protocol if you feel like your kitten is crashing.

She died 😔

Yes, depending on the case, it can become very serious. Check out my blog post for some home care options. There is a list at the bottom of some produ ts you can use. Please remember, I'm not a vet. bit.ly/FTFURI

I'm so sorry ❤️ 🙏🏻

Thank you for being there for him ❤️

I'm so sorry ❤️ 🙏🏻

Thank you 😊 🙏🏻

Thank you so much, updates like this keep me going ❤️

Good work! Thank you so much for this update 💜 Let me know how it goes 🙏🏻

Same with the neonatal under our care. This protocol gave her a chance.

Yes, you can try the coconut oil and it can go in the eye. I smear it on the eye and open and close the lid several times to try to get it inside. I know I have a vid somewhere demonstrating this, and if I can remember which one it is, I will come back with a link for you. Conjunctivitis can get serious very quickly so if I am see seeing an improvement in several hours (like overnight) I will get them to the vet to get some antibiotic ointment.

@@FosterTheFelines Thank you. Can I also use some old erythromycin? Thanks for answering back so quickly!

@leannew.5617 Tbh, if you can't get to a vet, I would say go for it. Keep in mind that I'm not a doctor

@@FosterTheFelines I understand and that’s ok. You are honest where as most vets will push their medicine. Thanks!!

Yes, you can

I'm so sorry. Thank you for being there for him ❤️

It's worth a try. I obviously can't guarantee it will work, but it could buy enough time to allow antibiotics or other treatment to work. If you're able to pull him through, since there is an active infection, you'll need to plan on continuing a super vigilant watch for any signs that he's fading again and restart the protocol. Good luck ❤️🙏🏻

@@FosterTheFelines Thank you, but she died last night.. the vet said that the antibiotics is ruining her cells because she’s too small and weak. She is orphaned with her older sis, her older sis is growing purrfectly and I’m grateful for it. Usually they will cuddle together but now that she’s gone, her sis is just cuddling alone, which tears me up a little.. she was a fighter. Fly high, Winter 🕊️🤍

I'm so sorry ❤️ 🙏🏻

So sorry for your loss ❤️🙏🏻

@@FosterTheFelines thanks, but sadly, it happens. plus i'm already over it because my other kitten the father of the kitten i was talking about on this comment cheered me up :)

We had actually been bottle feeding them but they get so many benefits from staying with their mom if possible. It's always a good idea to try to make it work with mom if you can. We did continue to supplement these guys until her milk production went up but she did accept them. She even went on to be a surrogate mama to 5 orphaned babies!

Bless her heart ❤️ I hope it gets better soon 🙏🏻

What stage CKD is she in? How long on antibiotics and what is the antibiotic you are using? Our cat is going through this right now.😥

Sadly, she passed away a little over a month ago. She was getting convenia injections every couple of weeks. I also gave her a short cycle of tobramycin drops for her eyes. I think she had progressed to an advanced stage rather quickly. I had her tested about 3 months prior, and she had been borderline stage 3. I last had her retested her for anemia after weeks of varenzin treatment, and those levels were still within normal range. I have learned that CKD is the most common disease with cats. Some cats can live for years on a subcutaneous fluid and renal diet. I think it depends on genetics and age. I wish you and your cat all the best. Cherish every moment you have together.

A LOT of people mistake hissing or a tiny purr for breathing issues but that's usually not the case. If they're having actual breathing issues, they will have a much more constant open-mouthed breathing/panting.

I completely agree. One of the best sounds in the world

So glad it was helpful!

Good work! Thank you so much for the update ❤️ These are the best kind and I love to get them!

I'm so sorry ❤️ 🙏🏻

I'm so sorry ❤️🙏🏻

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I'm so sorry, I know how helpless you're feeling right now. Mom's reject sick kittens to keep the healthy ones healthy. She can sense that the sick baby isn't doing well. That doesn't mean it's a lost cause. Follow the protocol as closely as you are able to. ❤️🙏🏻

The hand did not touch his whole face. The hand only made contact with the side of his face and forehead. The only reason that was done was to make sure there would be no Sulphur dripping into his eyes because kittens shake the liquid off of themselves and the mist can go everywhere. I just rewarched the video 4 times. We did not spray or wipe his eyes. Any Sulphur you see near the eyes at all was carefully applied off camera as I could not do this and film at the same time. And yes, I keep saline on hand for any accidents. I don't know what kind of Sulphur you used but the kind our vet gave us absolutely burned our eyes just being in the same room. It must be amazing to know everything about situations you weren't present for.

Sending you hugs ❤️

Yes, I would continue. You can let her out of the swaddle if she is struggling out of it but keep the heat source under her bedding. Continue the 3 minute intervals until she is no longer visibly in distress

You might contact your local shelter, rescue or TNR organization and see if they can get them some medical care. Eye Infections can become really serious if left untreated when they get this bad.

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If they can get their feet/toes in the collar, it's too loose. Their fur makes it look like it's snugger than it is. That and we're always going to be a lil bit worried that we'll get it too tight, so we make it it too loose. Make them a bit tighter

@@FosterTheFelines thank you I rlly needed advice ❤️

You're welcome!

Good luck ❤️