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@karaleise 3 сағат бұрын
Thanks for sharing this!
@michealcoleyoung 3 сағат бұрын
@@karaleise you bet! I know I come off a little strong on this topic at times but I mean well. I haven't given up yet and I'm making sure that I continue to learn.
@SansaStarkw 2 күн бұрын
I watched this video at 3.7X speed with an addon, and sometimes it makes me wonder if maybe I should create a company to compete with Amazon due to the fact they pay drivers low salaries and warehouse employees low salaries. Why can't I create a company to do something better myself?
@seinfan9 3 күн бұрын
Recruiters are typically unqualified to be doing any sort of screening of technical job roles. The human centipede of corporate management doesn't understand this.
@JaiNormis 3 күн бұрын
Underrated solution: pursue jobs with low traffic (from unpopular job boards, no-name companies, LinkedIn posts with minimal likes/comments, local employers). It’s SO much easier to get into those jobs because you have less candidates to compete against. Then, once you’ve worked there for 6-12 months, you can leverage that experience (potentially inflating it) to find a better job. This is what I did and it worked!
@michealcoleyoung 3 күн бұрын
@@JaiNormis are there any unpopular job boards you would recommend? I'm actually trying to get away from LinkedIn, Indeed etc. so this peaks my interest.
@SansaStarkw 2 күн бұрын
@@michealcoleyoung Work for Amazon. I'm partly joking. but why not work for amazon?
@raba650 2 күн бұрын
@@michealcoleyoungif freelancing qualities then that might be a viable avenue. My dad works in construction and from that point of view, there's a bunch of construction companies that either have no website presence or their website outdated like from the early 2000's. I did one for an uncle's outdated WordPress construction website and got a reference from that project to do a website for this lady that needed one since she was going to branch away from her property management job and start a consulting business of her own. She was one of the testimonials I had to reach out to for my uncle's website. Also, I did a traversy media ecommerce full stack app and later got to attend a sponsored bootcamp where one of the projects was a reservation app. I plan on using that apps logic for the ecommerce app (using this one's user accounts, authentication, etc.) for a website lodging platform since my sister's trying to have a rental property like an Airbnb. Kinda inflating, since it's not for a company per se (though not you won't be lying), but the experience is still there, even if it's on your own.
@johncornelius7445 4 күн бұрын
completely understand and agree
@briandiaz4802 6 күн бұрын
Hey man, you are not helping yourself out with this video. It makes you sound deeply resentful, not-resilient, and desperate. Your admission to considering lying and being at your “wits end” and how employers need to watch out is a bright red flag. This will NOT help you. If anyone ever thinks of hiring you and then sees this video they will immediately change their minds.
@michealcoleyoung 6 күн бұрын
@@briandiaz4802 even before uploading this video I was well aware of the potential consequences of employers seeing this. But it's a risk I am willing to take. Everything I said still stands. And you are correct, what you are seeing is desperation to a degree. But I'd rather be honest about what is going on in the job market than paint a fake picture like alot of folks I see on LinkedIn and elsewhere.
@georgeburdell517 7 күн бұрын
I appreciate your quandary but the main "professional" difference is all the unknowns for the sector that you are targeting. For example, take the space business (Denver tech, West coast tech). There may be strict rules coding for something on orbit. Python is out completely. Also having your code scrutinized by professionals in the same field is humbling. It's different than coding at home -- there will be multiple reviewers too before it folds into the main code branch. Are your skills ready to run 24/7 on -orbit for example. Anyway -- is it possible to step back and get some pro experience on the resume then move up the chain?
@problemsolvers7085 7 күн бұрын
Hi Micheal, I hope you're doing well! I wanted to check if you’re looking for a video editor and thumbnail designer for your KZbin channel. I'd love to help enhance your content and visuals. Let me know if you're interested! Best regards,
@michealcoleyoung 7 күн бұрын
@@problemsolvers7085 not at the moment no but thank you though!
@janesantoni9773 8 күн бұрын
Too bad we are losing unions
@akumaar 10 күн бұрын
What I learned from my decades of experience is , how to identify a genuine Job post. Every one has to master it in their own way. There will be hits and misses but you still gotta try and give them a minute.
@awesomesurfer6358 10 күн бұрын
Sister and husband got educated, no jobs, too tired of retail or factory or trades so they sold their souls to the government, and spying on muslims and the rest of us geering up for ww3, its all secret though, but now the government is making t h em work 60 hour weeks for 40 hour pay, and bored out if their minds, its bad 😮
@gordonperkins3678 11 күн бұрын
I'm with you brother. Best of luck to you.
@KJJ782 11 күн бұрын
I hear you for sure. In my own job, I actually applied to 50 internal jobs and all were rejected and then my boss encouraged me to apply to one using him as a referral, again they rejected me. The system right now is so messed up it’s. It even funny. At this point I expect a rejecting, but your absolutely right they can’t take away someone’s skills that you have done on your own time coding and reject you because you didn’t work in a professional setting. Sometimes I think these recruiters try and come up with reasons that make no sense. I was also told at my company to get a mentor, and I searched around found a few people in their program, and none of them responded back to me but they responded back to other workers, so I’m afraid there is horrible favoritism within companies and it’s the same with recruiters they are highly bias. I’ve interviewed, I’ve taken their tests for math, reading comprehension, logic etc passed them and still got rejected for the job. I personally stopped applying for internal jobs because I was jerked around too many times even though my skills, education and profile, fit the ideal candidate, they still rejected 🙅♂️ me. I’m afraid at companies that there is extreme favoritism, and nepotism and if your not liked or if your not in their club or clique at work, you won’t get advancement or even a better job. It’s like the lottery, or a roll of the dice 🎲
@catluvr8875 15 күн бұрын
some of the recruiters use assistants or AI to help them generate calls
@Sertecvar 16 күн бұрын
Top video
@UofMgoblue2012 16 күн бұрын
Some employers just want to collect information and sell data.
@BrettMcihvac 17 күн бұрын
Ehh create you an LLC and put it in your resume. Worked for yourself as an employee sole proprietorship. There ya go lol
@gangstaberry2496 17 күн бұрын
Recruiters are snakes... They have absolutely no idea how to justify their existence, and LinkedIn is the most toxic social media... NO ONE is qualified in their eyes, there is absolutely NO reasonable way to qualify for any of these jobs and yes they LOVE toxic employees who have 0 self respect!!!
@nightowl5475 18 күн бұрын
This guy seems like a really sharp guy and if I had a computer company, I’d feel honored to have a young hard-working decent smart guy working for me, like him. I feel his anger and he’s right. These companies are so full of it. These recruiters are terrible.
@nemesis851_ 18 күн бұрын
Going from making 100K a year To making nothing (unemployed) Ending up HOMELESS, living on the street in a tent
@user-lu6yg3vk9z 16 күн бұрын
Sorry man. Layoff or firing?
@nemesis851_ 15 күн бұрын
@ someone wrote a bot, script, API, that grabs every posted contract in one second. Other contractors never get to see, bid, or contact the issuer, until it’s RELISTED, the day after it doesn’t get done
@michealcoleyoung 9 күн бұрын
I'm so sorry to hear this. One of the most frustrating parts of this whole ordeal outside of the experience that I've shared is not knowing how to help other people in this arena. I want nothing more than to see people succeed and have a life of abundance but the machine is so brutal right now. Just know I am praying for you.
@michealcoleyoung 19 күн бұрын
Nerd
@bmxtrickbiker91 23 күн бұрын
Hey, I really enjoyed watching your video. I found your take on the market, specifically software engineering, interesting and definitely relatable. However, I think there are more aspects of the situation to consider. Since it's a free market, the influx of software engineering candidates largely determines placement. Companies may have specific criteria for candidates, but they often end up with tens of qualified candidates who meet these. It takes skill and experience to produce an app and showcase your abilities, but when it comes to placement in a big organization, many companies will prefer candidates with direct experience in a corporate setting. There’s a lot that goes into communication, collaboration, etc., within a corporation -- which is somewhat like a skill in itself. And why wouldn't they prefer candidates who meet these additional criteria? Meeting all these stipulations often correlates with a better hire, so of course, most companies are going to screen for them. This is the reality of being competitive for SE jobs in today's market and for the foreseeable future-you need to have it all, and then some. The screening process is just the first step; then come the technical challenges and coding whiteboards.
@tguy38 24 күн бұрын
Yup, paid experience and references will get you hired first.
@tguy38 24 күн бұрын
I hear you man, but these companies especially the private ones can basically hire who they want.
@davedsilva 25 күн бұрын
Your rant will make you unemployable. Take it down unless you want to make KZbin your career.
@michealcoleyoung 25 күн бұрын
@@davedsilva it's a risk I am willing to take. Every point I've made still stands.
@sergealbertlee1653 25 күн бұрын
No jobs yet the us gives visa to Filipino teacher without masters teaching are youth in north Carolina 😂😂😂😂😂
@ryanguy6789 25 күн бұрын
I think the problem is more the competition than anything. They gets hundreds and sometimes thousands of applicants to job postings - they are able to find someone with the professional background and years of experience within an organization that the client is looking for. When they have found that person, they aren't looking at you anymore. The problem is breaking into any field is extremely difficult now. For me, I had to start off with some less than optimal pay. Now - I am working fully remote and I was hired into current role because I had the exact qualifications the hiring manager wanted based on prior role. It was hard for me to find this match, many rejections happened during this period as well, even WITH the experience I had. That (being the ideal match) or references is how you can get a job. It's a struggle for sure when you do not have any experience - the hardest part IMO for anyone in their career - but it's also a struggle that hundreds of thousands of people go through and just is a byproduct of there being better alternatives available for the employer. Our system sucks. I think there should be better bridge ways into the employment market and maybe the universities need to partner up with companies that are incentivized to hire in their graduates or something along those lines to level the playing field better for those who are early in their careers. And now with AI entering the picture over the next few years, I think there's going to be some very major problems in the job market as if it wasn't bad enough already.
@luisriba8082 25 күн бұрын
I suggest you to look it this way: 1. Phase: you interviewing to qualify for the position. 2. Phase is the negotiation phase with HR. They are the ones that pay you. Never negotiate with hiring manager about anything. I can tell you 10/10 the hiring manager is less qualified than you.
@zacheray 26 күн бұрын
A few responses.. first I’m not a programmer but in video animation Python is super useful. Compliments on that skill.. wish I could do that. Second, you just need to lie. Get a friend in on it if needed but just repackage your experience as ‘office experience’ In times like this, you do whatever you have to do to combat incompetent recruiters. Third, once you get past these incompetent recruiters, you’ll get in front of the team leaders who actually know how to properly value your work history. Thanks for sharing this and being thorough in your analysis!
@SaundraLee 26 күн бұрын
I have a suggestion: have you considered being more niche in your skill set? Right now, I'm studying the ServiceNow platform and they are growing fast. With your credentials, you can practically start in the enterprise tech industry more than you would with these recruiters. Also I saw in an article recently that Salesforce is hiring sales reps, as they are growing too. With their craving of sales reps, Salesforce is gonna need people to be developers and administrators. It may not be your cup of tea, but it beats sitting in the same tech highway that every other tech person is on right now. Plus, since you are a problem solver, perhaps taking a look into QA work, as it is practically recession proof. Just a suggestion. Thanks for reading my comment.
@sandwichtube 26 күн бұрын
What if five people just got together and formed their own company? You have a professional company with references.
@EDGELEAK 26 күн бұрын
the biggest issue is most jobs/companies don't change their pay at all or enough for the adjustment of COL - that's the biggest #1 issue. The elephant in the room is the few jobs that DO pay decent/well are higher echelon management jobs that not only require the skillset, which cool, awesome. But they require 8-10+ years of "experience" and in the end, its an hourly rate/salary that should be given in todays inflation rates. But there isn't enough jobs that pay a livable wage compared to that local population. So many are screwed. It's all math, not enough good paying jobs for the masses.
@michealcoleyoung 28 күн бұрын
Nerd
@realitydesigners 29 күн бұрын
Yup these companies are still in the dark ages. For those of us who didn't have professional experience it's a nightmare to get anyone to look at you - all the while those of us who are passionate about coding probably are more technically well versed than those who have a "experience". Luckily I found a great one and it kind of got handed to me, but I know the market right now is crazy.
@mjwmontgomery Ай бұрын
The problem is, they can get a north american for say 200k or 3-4 indians for the same price.
@rdsunsb 8 күн бұрын
I am myself Indian and I want to see h1b is not misused. There should be balance. To be honest tech job was really high paid compared to other industries like manufacturing with equivalent experience, education credentials. Corporate greed need to be tamed too.
@millennialmisfits6156 6 күн бұрын
@@rdsunsb Well said
@ognyanognyanov5717 Ай бұрын
I will tell you why you have such experience with recruiters. The reason for this is because recruiters source their own candidates. They usually have about 46 days to fill a role and even though it sounds like a long enough time to do so, a recruiter will simply never fill-in a role by waiting for the "perfect" candidate to apply for the role. Within the first 1-2 weeks the recruiter needs 5 candidates for the hiring manager to review and eventually do interviews with them. Most of the time, a recruiter and a hiring manager already know someone who they want to hire and it's highly possible that this person is not any of these 5 candidates or any candidate that applied specifically for the role. The interviewing part is just a courtesy.
@justcallmejoeable Ай бұрын
If you have the experience you're claiming and you're not finding work right now, it's you. TBH you come off very snarky and entitled. They're either discovering that in the interview phase, you're dishonest about your abilities, or you're applying out of your league. No offense. Just observations.
@michealcoleyoung Ай бұрын
No offense taken. You are correct in a few of your observations. You mentioned that I come off very snarky and entitled and I can see exactly why you would think that given my attitude in the video. What you are seeing is my frustration with the process of finding employment in todays job market because it would seem I've made no progress at all despite ANY of the efforts I've made and experience I've gained in the past 6 years. When it comes to submitting applications, I will admit that I have applied for jobs where the role may have been a little out of my league but not so out of my league that I wasn't willing to at least take a chance on the basis of realizing that I checked off a few boxes in terms of what they were looking for. For example, for the jobs that might be a little out of my league my take is this, if I am able to get at least 70% or more of what is required in the job description, I'm still going to apply even if there is a crucial 30% that their looking for that carries the most weight among those requirements. This is to say that despite the fact that they really want me to have that 30% I'm still going to apply anyway because I have 70% of the other things they are looking for. Now, for any job that I apply to whether it be within my league or out of it, do I believe I am entitled to it? Absolutely not. And as far as senior roles go I never ever apply to those because I know I am a long way from that. I am a Junior Developer at best and I am honest and upfront about that fact with employers and anyone else for that matter. On the topic of honesty, we often hear people say "fake it until you make it" and I have always despised that saying because I've taken it literally for so many years. Because I know that if I claim to be an opera singer when I am really just a rock singer someone is going to find out real quick and then I'm going to be exposed. Instead, I've adopted the saying "know it and then show it" because if I truly know how to do something I should be able to prove this by showing or teaching someone how to do the thing I claim I know how to do. The catch is to have an opportunity to be able to show it and that is where most of my frustration lies. Regarding finding work. Is there a good possibility that the reason why I am not able to find work in my field is simply because of me? You bet, but so far in an effort to solve the issue of what I think I might be doing wrong I have found that it's been a fruitless endeavor. This comes with taking into consideration what I think I am doing wrong along with what others in the field have suggested I might be doing wrong as well. But what it boils down to is this. There is always a perceived problem and then there is the real problem. What I am looking for is the real problem. I would love nothing more than for someone to rain absolute hellfire criticism down on me to account for exactly what I am doing wrong so I can improve and make progress. However, this hasn't happened yet and that ties into some of my frustration. What makes this even more interesting now vs a few years ago is now I see an abundance of people on LinkedIn every other day sharing similar stories like mine to the point where I can't help but acknowledge that the landscape has totally changed and not for the better. I see folks who are way above me in terms of qualifications sharing stories about how they are on day 320 (just giving a random high number to illustrate my point here) of trying to find employment in the same field but still no luck. Now sure, I run through the same round of questions like anyone else when it comes to wanting to know why they haven't landed a job yet. But to see this massive group of folks sharing similar stories to mine only confirms that there is more than meets the eye to this issue.
@kubadevarsovia2839 28 күн бұрын
Ok boomer
@artificialgenerativetechno-p3d 26 күн бұрын
No. You're the type who has a high school diploma and think you know more than someone with specialized training. A PhD should and at "real companies" count for the same amount of experience as each year of school * a multiplier
@raspberrymediapost8186 Ай бұрын
Hey where are you located? I’ve been taking to someone who’s also doing software engineering , and had a much more rewarding experience in Czech Republic (Prague specifically but maybe you don’t have to limit yourself to Prague or Czech Republic). Also have you tried looking into looking for your own clients and building reputation / experience this way?
@michealcoleyoung Ай бұрын
@@raspberrymediapost8186 I'm located in Texas. And I have not tried looking for my own clients. I'm not opposed to it but I know that would be difficult considering I've been trying to obtain clients with my web design business and that has been a challenge.
@raspberrymediapost8186 Ай бұрын
@@michealcoleyoung oh really, Texas is so bad? I’m in Toronto and it’s an absolute mess. Too fast of an immigration, and most people settle in Toronto or Vancouver. Many want to relocate to USA as there aren’t many options/market in Canada. Oh well, many Americans are trying to leave USA so see if that is something for you. As long as you find an option / system that is worthwhile, not something on par or worse. There can be catches too , but don’t let yourself get pessimistic
@raspberrymediapost8186 Ай бұрын
@@michealcoleyoung , it could’ve been worse. You could’ve been with a student debt 😆
@michealcoleyoung Ай бұрын
@@raspberrymediapost8186 lol that is true.
@s3renity274 Ай бұрын
The entire tech industry is complete bullshit. Skills mean nothing (and I’m employed at a company). I’d rather work at McDonalds and Lyft at this point. At least it’s guaranteed income.
@leonardbritt8945 Ай бұрын
If I need an electrician or mechanic or carpenter, what matters is their ability not where they worked. Also, would I refuse to contract them because they have too much experience?
@HCforLife1 Ай бұрын
I am so curious how your resume looks like.
@HCforLife1 Ай бұрын
Recruiters won't see your github account. I understand your frustration but instead I encourage you to go different route. You base your recruitment success on your technical skills instead of the real reasons why you aren't considered for those roles. Pay attention to it. List the issues. Action on those to somehow counter them. Contributing to open source, collaborating with other people, attending hackatons and meetups, creating organization and working on some startup idea with other folks, finding a mentor - just a few things you can do 😊 Still - I understand your frustration. The job market is shambles now. Every year a ton of new graduates are coming to already oversaturated market worsening it even more. I think the only way for you is to find mentor, and create a separate channel where you only show programming related content
@raspberrymediapost8186 Ай бұрын
I think it’s the worsening of the job market. People that I knew from 2010+ up until 2015 would find jobs (they’d bitch sometimes about how it took them 6 months or a year but it’s wasn’t nearly how it is now). These people have careers now and seem comfortable where they are. I started my journey in 2015, and while at the time I wasn’t prepared for the job market, as I was developing, I still wouldn’t get anywhere, and now it’s like 9 years of experience of everything - from skill, to resume writing, to tailoring to interview skills to softskills to volunteering and doing free work, and also internships that I’ve done a few, and still am approached sometimes to do an unpaid internship. Like I just know at this point that it’s not me I think a lot of times people don’t understand. In 2017 I was doing an internship at a place and I was complaining about the job market (which wasn’t nearly as bad as it is now) and I’d been told that this is the way it is, and that I need credentials and formal education , and that “I’m not suffering”, or whatever. Or I’d say that I’d applied to 1500 job ads and people would say that it’s my resume or something like that. Right now I do seasonal work, so I get jobs but I never know when my next one is going to be, and I was talking about it with my roommate that I’m done applying to corporations because of how it’s not worth it (literally), and she was like “well, what if you have to/have no other option” I’m like it doesn’t matter if I have no options. Like i don’t think people understand that applying just to feel better about yourself doesn’t solve the issue. Also I was talking (I have 2 therapists, from a different country), about my employment situation, and one of them was like “well you’ve figured it out, you are able to support yourself. You’ll be able to do it again if something happens in the industry/the world” and id be like “I wouldn’t be so sure about it”. Another one said straight to my face “well what are you going to do when your parents die”. It just pissed me off. Like this is literally what I go to therapy for. Like she just doesn’t want to understand. Like having no options doesn’t solve the problem. Just because you’ve exhausted all options doesn’t mean that you’ll magically come up with insights . There’s a lot of projection of laziness and lacking accountability
@PenguTT44-sh2oe Ай бұрын
I am pretty sure most of the trade unions would hire more people if they applied. I think our country is held back in a lot of ways because the trades lose numbers every year, and the younger generations just don't get the proper education on how these can be genuinely great careers for certain folks.
@raspberrymediapost8186 Ай бұрын
Because there’s a propaganda of how you should do what you’re passionate about, and follow your dreams, and money is beneath you, and blue collar is so degrading and all of that crap. It makes me cry when I see young kids in their late teens early twenties that go to university to get something like a marketing degree. Young people are uneducated about their prospects, but also their parents aren’t a lot of times
@PenguTT44-sh2oe Ай бұрын
@raspberrymediapost8186 school told me your folks teach you those things, my folks assumed school taught me those things. I didn't figure out the trades until 23
@habababa1312 Күн бұрын
trades are a cope, they pay like shit in most states. The truth is we have too many people, too little jobs, and the people on the top are offshoring everything to help their pockets. It's a sick game that won't crumble
@PenguTT44-sh2oe 17 сағат бұрын
@ indeed they are
@KeepItFresh02 Ай бұрын
in 2018-2019 I attempted to transistion from WordPress development to React development. And when interviewing I got rejected so many times because I would mention WordPress a lot because the previous job I had was building React components inside WordPress. It was a real project that was live and I was proud to share. I did however build a ton of my own React projects. After 48 interviews and 2 years I finally got a job doing React. But get this: We traveled to the headquarters for 3 days and on the first night after work we went to a Greek restaurant at around 10pm. My manager says to the 3 of us "you guys are the best of the best". So why did it take me 48 interviews to then be called "the best of the best?" it makes no sense.
@KennTollens Ай бұрын
Can you make and sell software?
@KennTollens Ай бұрын
My project ended several years ago and I couldn't find work. Had to get a min wage factory job to get by. Now employers see that and I have no chance of getting a software project again. College degree and career in computer science down the drain. Have to rethink my life at 51. Good luck, job market is cooked.
@daruthebeast 22 күн бұрын
Don't say you worked in a factory, say you were self employed and make some portfolio site that points to that, if they ever ask you if you worked in factories, say you did both at the same time!
@JoeBlunt Ай бұрын
I would say the personal projects were done as a freelancer for a small biz. Also talk about collaboration with other devs on a freelance project.
@itscooldawgdonteventrip Ай бұрын
they just want to pay less so they make it hard so that you are not confident with the salary negotiation . the solution to that is to be able to have a lot of offer coming at the same time ( that's not easy but possible ) when you actually have choices. that's what they do not like .
@bigbanknewyork3655 Ай бұрын
Big difference between playing guitar in your garage for 20 years and being in a band for 10 years. Employers want the band member.
@michealcoleyoung Ай бұрын
@@bigbanknewyork3655You are correct. They want the "band" member but that still does not negate the actual experience and skills that someone has developed over time.