Nice list We should add that other dinosaur guy called raptor and if we're doing legacy villains kravens kids are a goldmine

You mentioned kravens last hunt, that's another example of one great story letting a villain ascend to new levels

I've thought the same mate, I love it and it helps him stand out from all the revenge-seekers All the times I've seen people online debate a shared Marvel/DC universe, Shocker on the Rogues is a common idea

My number 2 is Moe, or as the ladies like to call him, "Hey you behind the bushes"

Le Grille? What the hell is that?! I'm absolutely gonna continue reading these, I'm having a great time

I've been struggling finding DC ones, all I found was green arrow vs deadshot Marvelwise I've got planned captain America vs Rhino and hulk vs Grey Gargoyle tho

@@SkullRy_Comicsright because you said that Dr Octopus fought Captain America and I want to know where that came from

@srstriker6420 captain America issue 259, Ock steals Cap's shield to try to incorporate the metal into his arms

@@SkullRy_Comicsright and I suggested that time Cap fought the Kingpin

Nice one mate, I thought Banshee was cool as hell I've not yet read the new52 one but it was a new woman wasn't it, not Siobhan? Was it still an ancient curse or did they modernise it?

I only briefly read about the new52, they changed that it was her mother died instead of father and renamed her, I didn't watch or read any of her yet. I intend too though. Am in Ireland btw.

@comicblove the original story was already great, dunno why they bothered changing it Nice, your country has a cool comic representative then, best we have in England is Union Jack

@@SkullRy_Comics a screaming woman 🤣 Sounds about right.

That sounds like it could be fun, I'll give it a go deffo

I don't think I've read that, were there any cool team members?

@@SkullRy_ComicsI said that I wish they added more members and of course that the Sabretooth war has finished

Cheers! No problem mate, you had a cool idea I loved talking about Pure coincidence, I didn't know Venom 3 was even done filming haha

Don't even get me started mate The Vulture is literally a propulsion expert, you're telling me he wouldn't be more useful than chaneleon in the evil satellite launching plan?

@SkullRy_Comics vulture's got the same problem of being lame that Chameleon has Doc ock's six needs someone badass like hobgoblin again

Good ideas bad execution but after ten years he was sure to run out It's more his choices for some characterisations thag I dislike, like mob boss Black Cat and suddenly evil Phil Urich

@SkullRy_Comics was Phil anything special before that? He was a sucky green goblin

​@cyberr23 not in 616 but it's strange reading Spider-Girl and seeing Phil as a good friend of Peter when he's a lunatic hobgoblin in mainline

@SkullRy_Comics I didn't even know Phil was in spidergirl tbh but I think the whole idea of a heroic green goblin is weird anyway He should've just made his own identity

He's Peter's assistant in the forensics lab And yeah I agree why use Green Goblin? Dudes being purposely confusing like if a policeman wanted to be called Officer Unabomber

Absolutely, Ock is a huge threat and even if you beat the man, he has tons of plots and plans already in motion They could've easily slid the ASM movies into the MCU, all those cranes in ASM1 could've been rebuilding after the alien invasion in Avengers

@@SkullRy_Comicsyeah keep the first Andrew Garfield Spider-Man movie the same and change everything else in the second movie

​@srstriker6420 ha, yeah Focus on this movie instead of setting up the next three, that sinister 6 tease at the end was awful

I like how it prioritises function over form Yeah it's a bit garish but it protects him from his own weapon so it's worth it

@@SkullRy_Comics I would have liked to have him in a movie where he gets as much time as some of the other Spider-Man villains have gotten in other films, even if he wasn't the main villain - being a substantual one would be cool.

@@cliffwoodbury5319 I think doing it like Nolan's Scarecrow would've been fun, seeing shocker pop up every film but more powerful every time, yet still beaten to show how Spider-Man is getting better and better

Maybe I read a funny theory that said maybe while the Ultimates were handing people their rightful powers from the Makers base, like when they gave Pete the spider, they don't know who's a hero or whos a villain so they're accidentally powering up villains too haha

@@SkullRy_Comics that’d be a pretty funny twist

I know, he's got the vest and everything I doubt they'd retread Superior but maybe the design is just to draw parallels Young Ock could be taking Pete's usual place of Harry and Gwens college pal so maybe he just looks the part?

@@SkullRy_Comics I hope they don't copy superior, or ant stories really I want more all new ideas

@@Bluekazoo234 same, stuff like Ben surviving, a friendly green goblin and the kids are changes I wanna see more of rather than just remaking old stories

I don't think Peter has asked Goblin why he's after Fisk, but Harry did mention that he's found a clue in Stark's files suggesting it was Maker and his crew that blew up Norman Harry could just want revenge for the shadow cabal for ruining his life

@@SkullRy_Comicsso you think that Kingpin is tied to the Maker but it doesn’t explain why he doesn’t want to report on him attacking him?

@@srstriker6420 yeah he's one of Maker's lieutenants, specifically in charge of New York And I think they mention Fisk doesn't have it reported because then people might wonder why such an upstanding citizen would be targeted, and they might uncover the kind of man he really is

Ah I see, I did better than i thought I would With DC gorillas if it's not Grodd I'm clueless, unless the design is unique like Ultrahumanite or Monseur Mallah

Yeah mate, Shocker's got one of the better win/loss records against spidey especially considering he's a normal dude under the suit

Legend Nice one mate

@@SkullRy_Comics Anytime, man!

That's true, Green Goblin gets a monster form and Doctor Octopus gets buff but poor Herman becomes a joke

Thank you for this lovely comment, it was my pleasure pal Shocker rocks and deserves more respect than people give him

I look forward to your video, the world needs more Shocker content I think the 2nd game wasted all the first ones potential and killing all the cool bad guys off was its biggest mistake

Thanks mate, Shocker rocks! Absolutely, I'll come up with a Symbiote Shocker story soon

​@@SkullRy_Comics I haven't seen if it fits your content, but I absolutely say you should make a piece about Spectacular Spider-Man #103, "The Blaze" just after the first appearance of Hobgoblin in the 80's. That's my Number One villain I wish was rewritten in a Spidey adaptation, to be one of the first mercenaries that use the plundered Green Goblin tech and eventually lead to Hobgoblin. The character is a lot like Mysterio in the homecoming movies.

@sboinkthelegday3892 if its from a comic it fits my content mate, I'll deffo take a look no problem I have a passion for obscure bad guys

​@sboinkthelegday3892 Heya mate, good news This Friday's video is all about forgotten Spider-Man villains, and The Blaze has a starring role! Thanks for the recommendation

They redeemed it in the end but then dropped the Mob Boss Shocker angle immidiately, he was meant to be running the maggia wasn't he?

If I was to rewrite shocker, I'd make him a mediocre inventor who did luck out into a patent of his repulsers, just before Iron Man became a celebrity hero. This spawned a horde of copycat arms manufacturers, who quickly outpaced Herman and left him without paycheck. Even being able to outright plagiarize his version without repercussions because the whole genre is seen as derivatives of Iron Man and in public domain. No great injustice or cause for victim complex, just poverty. This should play as narrative between Spider-Man and his web shooters, that are NOT known in the public eye, making it a perfect foil for Shocker's justified greed and unjustified response to it. Vulture would come into play as a tycoon representing the Baby Boomer generation, and being the archetype of kicking the ladder down after him for the young generation. Always clutching any opportunity to grow, and hoarding it.

@sboinkthelegday3892 you've done some great character writing here Love how Herman gets his big break, then has it all taken away from him by bad luck. I can see your version genuinely believing he's just taking what he's owed by committing his crimes

@@sboinkthelegday3892 Imagine Shocker taking Iron Man to court

Thats a cool reference dude, I wonder if the writers had ever heard of him when they made Shocker noir And true, homecoming stole that haha

@@SkullRy_Comicsthere was in Punisher Noir

@srstriker6420 oh sick, I only read spidey, wolverine and iron man Noir It's mad how marvel had Frank kill real life people then

That sounds sick, I'm imagining grey hulk busting out of the banner statue, pissed off Grey Gargoyle seems to get around a lot, I'm sure I've read him fight Thor somewhere too

A legendary track that weirdly fits with the arse kicking

While we're on the topic, there was a kind of recent story where Flash fought Riddler but my favourite example is the issue where Reverse Flash fought Batman at the start of rebirth

​@reject96 I barely remember that riddler story but I agree Reverse Flash's getting revenge for Flashpoint was cool as hell

Yeah I just think a rampaging Lizard in Queens should not be solely Spider-Man's problem haha I'm not a big fan of the MCU Spider-Man and I hate that his first few villains were more against iron man. Especially because homecoming is the only time I've thought Vulture was cool I hope future films have him more grown up

@@SkullRy_Comicsyes and can you do a sequel to this? See this shows that Doc Ock is Avengers level threat.

@srstriker6420 a sequel to this villain swap one? Sure i know a few more examples, do you have any specific issues you wanna see? Speaking of Doc ock being avengers level, I've nearly finished Ends of the Earth, should be out next week if all goes to plan

Yeah but later Slott stuff had the excuse of him running out of steam Wells has been on the book for like 2 years and he's already far worse I think Spencers was good until the messy end

@Bluekazoo234 Peter being a pure loser was bad enough but cucking him was too far

Because DB kicks ass and I needed cool fighting music

@@SkullRy_Comicsfair enough lol

Its weird I know The cia did experiment on Kenny as seen last video, but here he does specifically mention he grew them so I dunno ya know but I like it, we've got Doomsday for that anyway Conduit kinda was a big monster in the final battle before he burns out I suppose

@@SkullRy_Comics I guess Doomsday does fill that niche already but still, why cables for kryotonite? Maybe if he turned like a green crystal skin?

It would feel like hes been laughing at me, making me think I was almost winning when I was never even close Conduit and Promethius would be Pals after that I think

@SkullRy_Comics Conduit would've been a prime applicant for the legion of doom if hed been a team player

​@@Bluekazoo234shame that he wants to be number 1 alone, clearly he could use a good buddy

Yeah, I understand why Kenny is fuming because its like Clark's been taking the piss letting Kenny think he had a chance to win when he never did A lot of cool superman baddies haven't had much of a chance in adaptions, movies stick to Zod and Luthor but Conduit would make a cool change, you could tie it into a superman origin film too and show them both growing up together That's a boss idea because following the rules from the spider, the amazing Lizard -Man would still have Peter's mind and a human body with added lizard powers Dr Connors could be The Spider and instead of one arm he'd have eight haha

@@SkullRy_Comicsexactly the Peter being bitten by a lizard instead of a spider like I would imagine his costume being like Copperhead from Justice League Unlimited series with a robot tail and that costume is green and blue instead of red and blue. Also Superman doesn’t have an enemy at work like Spider-Man has.

​@srstriker6420 that sounds great, a tail instead of webshooters would be funny, how's he hiding that from aunt May He can still wallcrawl too, but maybe he's got poison spit or fangs or something? True, everyone at the planet seems to love both Clark and Superman

​@srstriker6420 lizard man sounds like a cool idea, good one @SkullRy_Comics you gonna make a vid on it?

@@cyberr23 I would but I don't wanna steal SRstriker's cool idea I've got other ones planned though

I agree, and it's an interesting change

I've had that same thought about Kraven dude, he'd make a sick spidey stand-in My plan was that Kraven screws up the tranquiliser dosage in Last Hunt and Spidey dies in that grave, so Kraven continues his killing spree in Spidey's suit

@@SkullRy_Comics That honestly sounds fire, it'd be interesting to see how Kraven would deal with events that happen later on in the comics, if he'd get bored of being Spiderman or come to appreciate what Spiderman does through experiencing it first hand. It makes for a really interesting elseworld tbh

@crustycolin2706 I like the idea of the other villains finding out its Kraven and feeling betrayed I do still think Sergei would die, but it would be by doing something actually heroic like saving a child's life and in his last moments he truly understands what's it means to be Spider-Man

@@SkullRy_Comics A story like that could also lead to some really cool interactions between him and other past members of the Sinister Six. Honestly sounds really cool. It'd also be pretty cool to see how other characters like MJ would take the change in the long term and if that'd affect events in future or not

@crustycolin2706 there was a real What if... once about Peter dying in kravens last hunt and that focused on MJ and other heroes reactions, Human Torch I think had a big role

Shocker is in my top 3 villains so I'm up for anything that gives him some spotlight If we can make up a reasonable way for him to end up in Pete's body I'd love it

The other inmates would be fuming

Nice dude, I swear to god if I was a millionaire I'd waste it all on action figures

Boss that's what I was hoping for I'm absolutely giving that a look then

Friday is Conduit, this was just a quick joke one And sure, I'll do ends of the earth

@@SkullRy_Comicsyou know before Across the Spider verse came out was expecting evil versions of spider people but saying that Miles from earth 42 was the closest thing but now I’m hearing that he is some misunderstood person

@srstriker6420 if they had to do multiverse stuff I think a version of Superior Spider-Man would've been the best choice Could've shown what a brutal SM could do

@@SkullRy_Comicsyeah well I was expecting a Spider-Man who laughs as the Green Goblin is minor in the movie

@srstriker6420 SpiderVerse Goblin was so weird too, like a mix of 616 and 1610 but taking orders from Fisk? The Spider-Norman from the comics was cool tho