Generally speaking, during the early 20th century overnight steamboat passenger tickets & stateroom accommodations were sold at the steamers' piers, on board the vessels and at agencies such as railroad stations, travel agents, etc. [The Joy Line was not privileges to have their tickets sold at New Haven RR stations]. Also, passenger tickets & stateroom accommodations were sold to passengers after the boats left the dock. There was much more to process of ticket sales & ticket collections at the time. This was a long time before the use of computers, so the exact number of tickets sold would not be known at time of sailing & definitely not the names of those who purchased passage on the steamers. Like railroad tickets, that were purchased at that time, a certain number of tickets were "assigned" to each sales location. At the time of the sinking of the LARCHMONT, the New Haven Railroad had its own inter-station telephone & telegraph system to have some control over sales & distribution of railroad tickets. At the time, the Joy Line had nothing even close to the NH Railroad ticket operation, was poorly run with minimal concern for passenger safety, not even having wireless-telegraph equipment on board their vessels. Prior to the sinking of the LARCHMONT, the Joy Line was basically a "fast buck" operation. The LARCHMONT had about 100 staterooms plus free berths for passengers, being mid-winter, doubt she was carrying more than 300 passengers on a Monday night. The sinking of the Str. LARCHMONT was a tragedy, nothing funny about it.👎
@ShipHistory4 күн бұрын
It was certainly a tragedy and the interviewee makes that very clear in the vivid descriptions.
@christianhill921710 күн бұрын
Sad this is gone like forever 😢
@65gtotrips12 күн бұрын
So when the Boeing 707 came to be, Pan Am airlines tried its best to mimic the accommodations of luxury ships such as this; Passengers were accustomed to being treated and pampered as it was the overall experience that mattered as much as the end destination.
@65gtotrips12 күн бұрын
Wonder how many quoits or horseshoes went overboard ? !
@65gtotrips12 күн бұрын
That’s so foreign to many of us who grew up from the mid 1960’s onward…a ticker tape parade for the Captain (Commodore) of a civil ship.
@dablacks374913 күн бұрын
God bless my four grandparents. Growing up they were very patriotic to the United States as well as my parents. My father who is a world war two hero.
@Archie2c17 күн бұрын
The ferocity of the lakes is unchallenged
@HorizonAndrew19 күн бұрын
And now this beautiful ship is going to be rotting away at the bottom of the ocean.
@eurouc20 күн бұрын
The average age passenger appears to be 75, going on 90
@pinbuoy21 күн бұрын
Nice!!!
@broum652325 күн бұрын
Bellissima nave
@MalcolmRudd-f5s26 күн бұрын
This man is lying or with holding information if you can't see it then shame on you
@ourhigherselves27 күн бұрын
History repeats itself. Immigration limitations, hate and mistreatment immigrants. The melting pot may be done but the salad bowl looks great.
@gk2811Ай бұрын
And which great Atlantic Liner will continue to attract the public while this wreak spends its time as a home for fish?
@MrWhite-ip9hwАй бұрын
My Grandfather served as Gunner's mate 2nd class aboard the USS Birmingham. He didn't tell very many stories about his time aboard, but the several times he referred to that vessel he called her the Bloody Birmingham,. The greatest generation ever to serve this country. 🦅🇺🇲🎖️
@mizzyroroАй бұрын
I will never understand why the family of the crew do not want the wreck dived. Yes it won't bring them back but if it could reveal why the ship sank it should be allowed. If indeed it sank in 10 seconds, the crew and maybe even Captain McSorley didn't know why. They would want to know. We owe it to them. But alas what do I know? 🤷♂️
@DiogenesOfDelawareАй бұрын
I knew Michael Schumacher was a great driver, I had no idea he wrote documentaries. /s
@RickBassett-q3hАй бұрын
She fractured her hull at the sixth fathom shoals the taken on water. The hit by 2 rogue haves with the Anderson Cooper stated the were hit with. The first wave caused her nose to hit the bottom and the second caused her to break in two.
@RoddCuttsАй бұрын
So cool and great to see
@georgefear5564Ай бұрын
I must have been about six years old when I went on Port Welcome ( Im now 63) and Bob McAllister was doing a show with all his characters including Mike Fury and Professor Fingleheimer. The harbor sure has changed and been built up. I wonder whatever happened to Port Welcome ( little toot) as we used to call it
@LymphaticRestorationTherap-y8bАй бұрын
I wish I could find more information about my great grandmother who came here in 1909. She was only 9 years old and was "sponsored" by an Italian mob family and put into a textile factory outside of Philly. I can only imagine how this journey was for her. She spoke of those years with anger and fear. It is so hard to find information about her history.
@ShipHistoryАй бұрын
We have a great resource on how to conduct your own genealogy research! Learn more at shiphistory.org/immigration-by-passenger-ship-research-guide/.
@edwardolander4361Ай бұрын
Born in Bermuda and the first time I came to the states was on the Queen of Bermuda. Our parents made sure we were awake to see the Statue of Liberty
@darlenejohnson8864Ай бұрын
Seen a lot of scary things in my time but looking at broken bent windows of the Edmund Fitzgerald is freaky knowing men had been standing there.😢
@klmiller333Ай бұрын
My great grandparents and grandmother came here from Calabria Italy after the 1908 earthquake. This video tells me we the USA didn’t treat them very well. A lot of Italians worked in coal mines in West Virginia. We sold them fairytales.
@MrTylerStrickerАй бұрын
Huh, this guy had YT videos before YT or the Internet existed...very forward thinking.
@warningsigns4526Ай бұрын
sinking 9/17/2024
@michaelritchie-ch6ibАй бұрын
A guy, my sister‘s neighbor works with was at Walmart one day and started talking to a guy in the checkout line who said his second cousins sister on his cousins side, graduated college with a guy who said some boy he grew up with Dad had a boat back in the day😂🤭😝😬🙂↔️🧐
Supposedly, there was a guy who offered a pier at Red Hook New York for her to be kept at for minimal to no cost until she had a plan made for her restoration. Sir, if you're out there, we need to save this icon. She deserves better than to be a rotting hulk on the bottom of the ocean. SS United States Foundation, are you listening?
@AML-FRL2 ай бұрын
Nice informative video.
@ronalddechosa30482 ай бұрын
Classic'name'edmund fitzgerald⭐♥️🎇🎇lake superior'is mad,in big ships♨️
@edgizinski55282 ай бұрын
That ship broke up on top the water and sank. It's the only thing that makes since? That ship has already been proven to be under engineered and the cook said it was in poor shape. It didn't bottom out. It just broke up and sank. Science has proved this. All the new investigation shows this and proves this is how it happened. I don't believe anything else. If you listen to the radio transmission the Capt of the Fitz never said he had a list to any side. He simply said he had a list. Facts are Facts. The story must be kept straight and told truthfully. It's the only way to show respect to the crew. Not at all trying to say I know it all but the Facts tell the story.
@TheMainLead22 күн бұрын
A list is a tilt to one side or the other. What did you think it was?
@edgizinski552822 күн бұрын
@TheMainLead I didn't say it wasn't or didn't have a list. But the Fitzgerald never said what side it had a list on? This is very clear in all the radio transmissions. That's what I'm talking about and that's exactly what I said. Look it up?
@StalloneSiciliano2 ай бұрын
My family came here from Sicily in the early 1900s. Italians where treated worse then slaves in Illinois until the mafia came here and got us protection. It wasn't until around the 20s until we got recognized as normal people. We weren't even considered white. Please next time learn how to pronounce Italian words before saying them in a video.
@shopsshire92823 ай бұрын
Rest in peace to the 29 souls that perished on the Edmund Fitzgerald, the Titanic of the Great lakes🙏❤.
@gregobern60843 ай бұрын
love of money or family values , maymaygwashi will ruin your day
@mikecio13 ай бұрын
Nowadays they turn the shop around in a few hours. Granted they aren’t loading cars. But it’s become more efficient. Can’t wait to dive her.
@will80263 ай бұрын
A marvelous ship and one my aunt and mom sailed on a number of times. I don't think her single-smokestack was in any way successful but it's less offensive when seen from onboard.
@lauriesmith45753 ай бұрын
"There were no witnesses." There was a witness - The Anderson, but she can't tell what she saw, because the storm blocked her view. When she finally got through the storm to Whitefish Bay, The Fitz was already gone.
@CatherineDeMenezes-xx6pp3 ай бұрын
My father worked on that for the gerry company and my parents and brother will both engaged on that Ferry. We used to get on the ferry and go over to Newport all the time to go to the movies, just walk around Thames street. My brother and my sister used to have to take it to go to Rogers High School. I miss it dearly. It will always be in my heart forever. I remember as a child sneaking on the ferry thinking we were not going to be seen, but you didn't do anything like that because everybody knew you. We thought we were getting away with something. LOL that is what we used to call downtown.
@johnmoss82304 ай бұрын
No way was it hatch covers!!! A fence rail down and 2 vent covers gone the vents were for the ballast tanks taking on water not the cargo holds!!!
@buckshot7044 ай бұрын
@ 43:16 the CG spokesman admits “…the crewmen on the bridge did not have time to put on life jackets…” How would the CG conclude that without evidence of the bodies? Yet none were ever “officially” located…? The current understanding is no more dives are allowed on the wreck. That leaves out the chance for Magnetic Resonance Imaging which would penetrate the hull in any direction and prove any damage to the structure hidden by mud.
@JoesBasement7754 ай бұрын
Rode it many times.
@Bobbymorris-g3h4 ай бұрын
We proud ITALIANS LEARNED ENGLISH. NO NEED FOR TWO LANGUAGES. ITALIAN PROUD YOU HEARCTHAT BIDEN
@Bobbymorris-g3h4 ай бұрын
We proud ITALIANS LEARNED ENGLISH. NO NEED FOR TWO LANGUAGES. ITALIAN PROUD YOU HEARCTHAT BIDEN
@Bobbymorris-g3h4 ай бұрын
We proud ITALIANS LEARNED ENGLISH. NO NEED FOR TWO LANGUAGES. ITALIAN PROUD YOU HEARCTHAT BIDEN
@zaqwsx2323 күн бұрын
The writer and politician Emilio Lussu said a phrase that has gone down in history: "Language is my homeland." Peoples and cultures distinguish themselves through language, which is the vehicle of culture. Italian literature has been entirely written in Italian, with some works in local dialects. Books written by Italians directly in other languages are rare. Italian music features over 90% of lyrics in Italian or Italian dialects (and ranks third in the world by economic value, after music sung in English and Spanish, despite Italian having about one-eighth the number of native speakers of these languages). The same goes for Italian cinema (with the percentage reaching 100% in dubbed versions). Language creates culture and vice versa.
@Bobbymorris-g3h4 ай бұрын
Hey soul brothers ITALIANS HAD IT ROUGH TOO YET WE STILL LOVE AMERICA GOOBtza heads
@johnsdao39174 ай бұрын
It sunk because of it being cut in half and made longer😢