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@lordraydens
@lordraydens 10 күн бұрын
how does exposing yourself empower you? women were complaining about majel barrett's number one being too bossy
@BeyondTomorrowNow
@BeyondTomorrowNow 12 күн бұрын
This is awesome. I love that they made these design decisions to tie the universe and franchise together. They should have taken more liberty on the solo films however
@manricobianchini5276
@manricobianchini5276 12 күн бұрын
The miniskirts were just fine. They should've remained.
@mikec3777
@mikec3777 13 күн бұрын
Those outfits empowered those women.
@OneEyedLion
@OneEyedLion 22 күн бұрын
The mini skirt was chic and very feminine. The spinoffs made men and women androgynous. It's one of the reasons the original series is so popular.
@cavalheiro2062
@cavalheiro2062 23 күн бұрын
I would have like to see counselor Troi in a TOS uniform. That would have drove Riker crazy with l#st. 😂😂
@effyleven
@effyleven 24 күн бұрын
Deanba Troi (sigh) could certainly wear a frock... (phwoare)!
@geoffreylee5199
@geoffreylee5199 29 күн бұрын
If skirts are set as a kilt, so what. If this type of stuff continues, the story and writing get less and less.
@HorrorSFManiac
@HorrorSFManiac Ай бұрын
Do not put Hannibal and Twilight in the same sentence.
@oriolesfan61
@oriolesfan61 Ай бұрын
Minidress not miniskirt
@stevenbennett3805
@stevenbennett3805 Ай бұрын
The women in Star Trek were dressed the way they were because Gene Roddenberry was a pig.
@michaelproctor8100
@michaelproctor8100 18 күн бұрын
He was a pig in other ways, just ask Alexander Courage.
@modeler308
@modeler308 Ай бұрын
...and they wonder WHY 'ST Discovery' SUCKS.
@MindCaged
@MindCaged Ай бұрын
Goes to show how views can change from generation to generation. How something liberating in one generation is oppression in another. How the style went from prudish to sexually liberated back to somewhat prudish again within a few decades. I think I remember a scene from a gilligan's island movie where they finally got back to the mainland and the skipper was talking about what they missed while on the island and said how the skirts went from down here, to up here, and then back down to here.
@drgdieselfrenzy7707
@drgdieselfrenzy7707 Ай бұрын
There hasn't been Star Trek in about a decade. I don't know what STD is, but it has more in common with a sexually transmitted disease than Star Trek.
@adamburgess311
@adamburgess311 Ай бұрын
5:02 angular as they show a video of the death star
@Gernot66
@Gernot66 Ай бұрын
After all where is the problem with sexy? But lasciviousness near to pornography seems to be ok? (not in ST but in general) It's not a matter of how much i show it's a matter of how i show it off. A line we crossed since long imho.
@hjxkyw
@hjxkyw Ай бұрын
missing dr. Helen Noel, the best miniskirt user in ST
@mouserr
@mouserr Ай бұрын
diving into modern day gender nonsense ruined trek the trek std girl bossed the entire franchise into who cares territory and hopefully it will never recover better to end with the std tragedy than continue th fall with the woke vandalism they imposed on genes legacy
@KipIngram
@KipIngram Ай бұрын
I don't see how the uniforms have anything to do with gender roles. I'm not claiming the original series presented "really healthy gender roles" - it didn't. But it has nothing to do with uniforms. As you pointed out here, at the time of filming the mini was regarded as a positive statement by independent women. Leave it to us modern folk to find a way to take ANYTHING and make it bad. We specialize in that as far as I can tell. We just love to criticize and condemn.
@KipIngram
@KipIngram Ай бұрын
They can criticize all they want, but I LOVED THOSE MINI-DRESSES. I was a teenager when I watched that for the first time; I think it's hard to blame me. I had a huge kid-crush on Yeoman Rand. 🙂
@craigburt9209
@craigburt9209 Ай бұрын
2nd of these videos I've watched and the last. 1st was full of political propaganda, this one that, and misandry. The non-existent far-right violence and toxic-masculinity.
@Crazyuncle1
@Crazyuncle1 Ай бұрын
The mini dresses and other revealing feminine costumes looked GREAT. Let’s leave it at that.
@billlyell8322
@billlyell8322 Ай бұрын
The man hating misandry of this video is mind boggling. Tos has mini skirts because it was popular with WOMEN back then. I know feminazis want you this think women were chained to the kitchen, but that just wasn't reality. If women didn't like it, they would not have worn it. Check you bigoted privilege at the door. Lmao.
@karlmoltzan6196
@karlmoltzan6196 Ай бұрын
Star trek was and still is my favorite franchise of all time. I was 8 whem it came out. it was the most progressive tv series. It change TV forever. It had many firsts. Too many to list. It was thought provokes tackling many subjects that were not talked about. It changed scioty inmany was. It still is the onlyy franchise to show humanity as it should be. About the costumes and uniforms well it was the 1960s. Youcan not judge Star Trek by todays norms. And I sent a letter to Desilu studios to keep Star Trek on the air. I love the new effects from the bluray editions. It finally made Star Trek as it should have been but the technolgy was non exitance.
@daimyo2k
@daimyo2k Ай бұрын
I wish they would just leave the "gender and sexuality" out of Star Trek, and just work on making a good show.
@AlexRoivas
@AlexRoivas Ай бұрын
In Mad Max 1, one of the real bikers that was in the mlvie was actually Chris Hemsworths father.
@lisanidog8178
@lisanidog8178 Ай бұрын
To me it was the usual crap. Sexualize women and what better way to do that than to have skirts too short.
@muskerp
@muskerp Ай бұрын
red shirts mean ... I think we all know
@user-bl1hd7sl3q
@user-bl1hd7sl3q Ай бұрын
Es mi actriz preferida y muy talentosa e inteligente
@erisbob
@erisbob Ай бұрын
Very impressive analysis! No wonder I love this show, so multilayered with attention to detail. Details have more meaning than expected, just like in Hamilton musical. Thank you for this!
@user-bl1hd7sl3q
@user-bl1hd7sl3q Ай бұрын
Es mi actriz favorita . Hermosa talentosa y muy inteligente.
@kenandbarbie-b6c
@kenandbarbie-b6c 2 ай бұрын
Miniskirts & hot pants👍
@boedilllard5952
@boedilllard5952 2 ай бұрын
I don't get the anger. I'm a guy (OH NO) and I like looking at women's legs, smiles, eyes, shoulders, hands - you name it. I think women should wear what they want pants or skirt - their choice. I hate wearing ties and long sleave shirts so I get not all women necessarily want to wear the same thing. I do however wear those when I want to look nice. As for taking women seriously / as competent - I used to think that was the case but in the last decade the huge push towards quota hires pretty much makes me lean towards not competent until they prove themselves.
@AJFisherDesign
@AJFisherDesign 2 ай бұрын
Thank you for sharing your perspective on Starfleet uniforms throughout the various shows. This is a good overview. As a man I appreciate hearing a woman’s take on the subject of uniforms as you brought up some topics I wouldn’t have thought of. Some things that occurred to me while watching: -T’Pol and 7 of 9 were both treated in an overly sexualised manner when it came to both costume and storylines. I recently bought ENT series on DVD and after watching so many episodes realised T’Pol was being attacked a lot and it was uncomfortable to watch the frequency. - never noticed the removal of rank w sleeve loss in women’s uniforms in JJ Abram’s movies. I didn’t love anything about those films except for the athletic material used in the shirts. On TOS It struck me as odd, as a kid, wondering how lady engineers would crawl around in Jefferies tubes or ladders in a skirt. Didn’t seem practical or discreet. I don’t recall any women engineers in overalls on TOS. I get it was the 60’s but credulity strained methinks. Thanks again for creating and sharing this video. See you “Out There!”
@joseescobedo7899
@joseescobedo7899 2 ай бұрын
Clothes are best to give off what happening in game and movies depending on the genre comedy,action, romance, clothes sell what happing in the scene looking at dead island two the infected are heavily inspire by clothing people would wear in LA and depend wear you are in the game the infect will look different and then theirs 'all of us are dead' and 'highschool of the dead' they character are wear clothing suited for the setting which is schools uniforms then you look at 'San Andreas' characters all messy covered in cuts and bruises ash and dust after and earthquake, I thought these were cool points to bring into the table since wear talking about clothing in the last of us
@RotalHenricsson
@RotalHenricsson 2 ай бұрын
The more i learn about Jerri Ryan's catsuit the angrier i get. I hate the mini skirts of TOS with a passion but at least they don't make the actors pass out
@meerkat1954
@meerkat1954 2 ай бұрын
I thought this video would give interesting insights into the "seams" of the costumes. Instead by three quarters of the way through it bizarrely devolved into a highly dated 2020s woke era political rant about defunding modern day police officers. Needless to say this video ends up missing the mark more than the average stormtrooper.
@KlaraL-_-
@KlaraL-_- 2 ай бұрын
Their fashion only made the movies look even cooler!!
@tonysu8860
@tonysu8860 2 ай бұрын
Although this video's comments are largely valid in the context of today's American society. I cannot agree at all about the TNG character Deanna Troi. As the ship's counselor she was tasked with the ship's psychological well being but was no ordinary being but also an empathy so she had to be acutely aware of how her presence and appearance affected others. She alone of the ship's command crew could make her own choices of attire and in fact she was expected to make those choices competently. That's why how she was costumed were interesting choices, that a command crew member on a futuristic crew could and would choose to wear bodysuits that might suggest cleavage or display the female form and wear hair styles that might be considered attractive. Surely those choices must be intentional, are those choices manipulative or Innocent? Because as an empathy she surely must have been fully aware how her appearance was taken by each and every other crew member, guest and friend or foe
@zealandzen
@zealandzen 2 ай бұрын
Nonsense. It's not empowering to wear mini skirts. They are not comfortable, as Nichelle insists, because women have to sit with legs tight together, which is not natural. Too much exposure.
@davidthedeaf
@davidthedeaf 2 ай бұрын
3:52 the point you all need to take away is looking backwards at history and interpreting everything as oppression is a grave error. If you could ask people in the past their own thoughts on matters we read about, they may say they like the clothing, or they are fine with the situation and even that the things we today see as sexist or racist or classist were at the time seen as modern and a symbol of equity.
@danielbergonzi7319
@danielbergonzi7319 2 ай бұрын
Now I wanna see her with smallpox makeup.
@MaxAbramson3
@MaxAbramson3 2 ай бұрын
The saga is really about Ripley rejecting the idiotic mandates of the corporate bureacracy that has no concern for their safety. This deliberate rejection--and teaching others to take the initiative--is what the story is really about. Those offerings that dont develop this theme and arc--or that do so poorly--never make it. An alternative arc would be government bureaucracy pretending to step in with safety regulations only to drop hints that government and WUC are in league.
@lurx2024
@lurx2024 2 ай бұрын
If women aren't going to be wearing mini dresses in the 23rd century, then what's the point of carrying on civilization?
@Fyrehart97
@Fyrehart97 3 ай бұрын
I overall liked the video, but you ruined it at the end. No, it is not a bad thing I and many men choose not to dress in a feminine way. Do not try to be so inclusive that you go the other way and pressure people to dress in a manner they do not frankly want to. But also, why did you imply that the only way for a man to be expressive in how he dresses is to be feminine? "By contrast, their male counterparts look far more conservative." How is dressing masculine equal to dressing conservative? The mask slipped there. I choose not stand out by wearing a dress, but by growing a moustache; I remain masculine while being self expressive (much like a certain character in Strange New Worlds). I'll stop beating around the bush: I'm a man who takes pride in being masculine - do not try to imply that is a bad thing; just as it is not for a woman to be proud to be feminine. We're all individuals. You're making a video about Star Trek and used a fantastic quote by Nichelle Nichols and still missed the point: we're all individuals and should be able to be proud of that - including masculine men.
@dinahnicest6525
@dinahnicest6525 3 ай бұрын
I don't have a problem with men wearing skirts, but the ones on ST were designed for women and looked odd on men. Scottish kilts look masculine, and so do Roman tunics. A few feminine looking men are OK, but most want to be masculine.
@Tarsier-r9z
@Tarsier-r9z 3 ай бұрын
Why are we bringing politics into a storm trooper design breakdown?
@gelloyangsteryang6481
@gelloyangsteryang6481 3 ай бұрын
I dont get why this isn’t discussed as much. I really wanna get to fashion that’s always ready for survival
@louisegrimhelm3041
@louisegrimhelm3041 3 ай бұрын
Adam Savage's Tested does an awesome series of videos from on the set when he did a cameo. The small details in the costumes are amazing
@John-fn2ln
@John-fn2ln 3 ай бұрын
There is nothing wrong with what they wear in star trek