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@bambukouk
@bambukouk 2 күн бұрын
thank you! very useful👍 I have G3 with two HDMI and I'm thinking about changing optional port to HDMI as well (to use three monitors - if it is possible?)
@handmedowntech
@handmedowntech 2 күн бұрын
Check out my short video where I run 5 monitors
@therealmcgimmick
@therealmcgimmick 2 күн бұрын
I'm trying to setup Proxmox on a G3 800 SFF, Proxmox has Raid install but it won't boot and shows as 2 boot drives in bios. I guess I'll have to try hardware raid and i think it can only be done on the onboard sata controller and not my pcie adapter. I'll see if i can to ext4 install on the raid volume. Anyone know if there's another way bc I wanted to passthrough onboard to a VM (Trunas).
@handmedowntech
@handmedowntech 2 күн бұрын
Does the G3 SFF support the software mirroring as described in the video? If so then that "raid" only works with Windows. I tried installing proxmox on a machine with the mirroring setup and it didn't see it as a single drive.
@therealmcgimmick
@therealmcgimmick 2 күн бұрын
@handmedowntech You're right, it doesn't show in install I think can't boot without some big Debian side quest so I'm going to just look to keep a snapshot and/or configure scripts along with vm backups, etc. Apparently if you have to change systems you probably need a reinstall anyway so it's only good for drive failure recovery.
@ItzGeo666
@ItzGeo666 3 күн бұрын
I own a HP Prodesk 400 G4 SFF its awesome and solid, i recently bought a HP Prodesk 400 g3 dm for 58€ with an i3 7300t, 8gb ram (planning to upgrade to 16gb and the pcu too to an i5) and 512gb nvme. Love them ❤ The 400 g4 has i3 7100, 8gb ram, 400gb ssd however this one i dont feel its worth it for 103€ i paid!!! this one runs proxmox with lxc and the prodesk 400 g3 dm is basically a remote personal pc
@handmedowntech
@handmedowntech 3 күн бұрын
I can sympathize. Some purchases are great bargains while others are not that great. But the silver lining is that you're still getting a solid computer for a huge discount.
@ItzGeo666
@ItzGeo666 3 күн бұрын
@handmedowntech yeah, these are pretty solid for me at least.
@pabloarvelo5969
@pabloarvelo5969 4 күн бұрын
I only have one. No addiction here
@handmedowntech
@handmedowntech 4 күн бұрын
You are a strong one. Don't listen to it's siren call for more siblings.
@pabloarvelo5969
@pabloarvelo5969 4 күн бұрын
@ 🤣🤣🤣
@anomalii7720
@anomalii7720 4 күн бұрын
True, the addiction IS real 🙂 I have 5 now. G2 800 EliteDesk G4 705 EliteDesk G6 ProDesk 400 G6 EliteDesk 800 G9 Elite Mini 800 I like them 🙂 All 5 a powerfull enough for me. I have Windows 2022 Server running on the G2 and G4 with both 312 websites.
@handmedowntech
@handmedowntech 4 күн бұрын
Which was your first?
@jayfara2282
@jayfara2282 4 күн бұрын
The struggle is real yo. The Lenovo m920q tiny has a PCI-E slot. Now that makes more expandable.
@handmedowntech
@handmedowntech 4 күн бұрын
Oh definitely. Each brand has its draw and pulls you into its lair 😉
@ryananderson8576
@ryananderson8576 4 күн бұрын
Where’s your Mac mini, Lenovo, dell, Intel nucs
@handmedowntech
@handmedowntech 4 күн бұрын
Always hard to choose. Focus on one brand or diversity.
@ryananderson8576
@ryananderson8576 4 күн бұрын
@ get em all it’s still addicting
@RichardMartinke6rji
@RichardMartinke6rji 4 күн бұрын
Don't worry about Windows 10 EOL... Run Linux on these things, they work great on Linux!
@handmedowntech
@handmedowntech 4 күн бұрын
Server versions especially.
@RichardMartinke6rji
@RichardMartinke6rji 4 күн бұрын
I got a HP EliteDesk 800 G2 DM 35W, i5-6500T, 16GB RAM, 512GB SSD running Ubuntu 24.04 LTS perfectly and it's my daily awesome PC and yes I need more of these things LOL!
@handmedowntech
@handmedowntech 4 күн бұрын
That is the quintessential unit. Those 6500t G2s are solid.
@NatesRandomVideo
@NatesRandomVideo 5 күн бұрын
For me it was an addiction long before they got popular and I was buying them for $30 US. lol 😂
@handmedowntech
@handmedowntech 5 күн бұрын
Got in on the ground floor, smart one 👍
@NatesRandomVideo
@NatesRandomVideo 5 күн бұрын
@@handmedowntech just an old IT guy and I got excited when businesses started replacing them early on... we used mountains of them as desktops in office space and a call center.
@handmedowntech
@handmedowntech 5 күн бұрын
HP, Dell, Lenovo just made them too dependable and now they live on in another life.
@Brisk__
@Brisk__ 5 күн бұрын
the Lenovo ones have PCIE slots :3
@handmedowntech
@handmedowntech 5 күн бұрын
How have you used the slots?
@Brisk__
@Brisk__ 4 күн бұрын
@@handmedowntech add a low profile single slot rtx 3050 :3
@Marauder-q2v
@Marauder-q2v 5 күн бұрын
personally i prefer the SFF elitedesks because they have slightly more thermal headroom, 2x3.5 hard drive bays, and the fans can be replaced with after market fans.
@handmedowntech
@handmedowntech 5 күн бұрын
Oh goodness, can't imagine how little space I'd have left if I had bought as many SFFs. With the minis I can hide my addiction easier 😉
@Marauder-q2v
@Marauder-q2v 5 күн бұрын
@@handmedowntech yeah the SFF is really only good if you didn't already have storage and only wanted one device
@TekneekNetworking
@TekneekNetworking 5 күн бұрын
Bro I beg, please leave some for the rest of us I have so many projects I wanna do with these once I’ve got the shmoney 😂
@handmedowntech
@handmedowntech 5 күн бұрын
Sorry guy for shrinking the supply. Making these videos doesn't help either 😉. It's like when everyone takes the same secret shortcut and now it takes twice as long.
@โต้ง-ล3ต
@โต้ง-ล3ต 5 күн бұрын
Considering the fact that they cost cheaper than setting up a Raspberry PI, while providing much more horsepower, makes them an insane value deal.
@handmedowntech
@handmedowntech 5 күн бұрын
And no need for extra "hats"
@m-tmf
@m-tmf 5 күн бұрын
where do you get those pallets i would love to get a lot of those
@handmedowntech
@handmedowntech 5 күн бұрын
Wish I had one 😉 but I have seen them in promo videos for some of the larger resellers.
@aku2dimensional
@aku2dimensional 5 күн бұрын
I rarely use the two Prodesk 600 G3 minis I have but they are a fine addition to my collection.
@handmedowntech
@handmedowntech 5 күн бұрын
Good to have JIC
@Solar_and_Security
@Solar_and_Security 6 күн бұрын
I like the HP, but honestly, my 1L of choice is the Dell 7050-7060, Very nice, cluster. Been up and running for 1 year now since I saw them on Serve the Home channel. Very useful.
@handmedowntech
@handmedowntech 5 күн бұрын
Which processors?
@Solar_and_Security
@Solar_and_Security 5 күн бұрын
@@handmedowntech i5-6500T
@tyfp3854
@tyfp3854 6 күн бұрын
That is too much
@handmedowntech
@handmedowntech 6 күн бұрын
I guess if I had Flight Simulator or one of those kinds of games that can use different monitors it would be worth it
@thomasburnett4712
@thomasburnett4712 6 күн бұрын
You can update the processor to an A12 9800e, which I have in mine, but that’s as high as you can go currently.
@handmedowntech
@handmedowntech 6 күн бұрын
What do you use your unit for?
@thomasburnett4712
@thomasburnett4712 5 күн бұрын
@ Bought it as a barebones home for old parts, including the processor, also tried my hand at repairing a realtime clock battery holder. It works great. If I keep it, I’ll install Linuxmint once Win10 goes extinct.
@handmedowntech
@handmedowntech 5 күн бұрын
These old units are great for experimenting. If things go wrong at least you're not out 100s of dollars
@thomasburnett4712
@thomasburnett4712 5 күн бұрын
@ I strongly suspect HP could make it compatible with Ryzen with a BIOS tweak if they chose to do so, but they just don’t have any incentive to do so.
@RanNahum
@RanNahum 6 күн бұрын
I want to buy one of those to kinds, which do you recommend?: elitedesk 800 g2 8ram 256 ssd or *3 8ram 256 ssd? I have found then in the same price range
@handmedowntech
@handmedowntech 6 күн бұрын
I have a video where I compare the G2 and G3. In the video I recommend the G2 but my views have changed since then and I'm leaning more to the G3.
6 күн бұрын
is the i5 6500 compatible with the 6500t ? I have a copper heat sink.
@handmedowntech
@handmedowntech 6 күн бұрын
For the EliteDesk series they can be interchanged if you use the 90w adapter but the ProDesks only list the T processors, not sure if the unit will know what to do with the 6500. Although now you've given me an idea for another video...hmmm. thanks
@luisbvs
@luisbvs 6 күн бұрын
Yes bro, you have an issue, but then again, we all do, it is fun, I have 3 (donated 1) and an HP Z2 Mini G3 all pumped up (i7s and 16gbs)... But that is it, at least for a few years...
@handmedowntech
@handmedowntech 6 күн бұрын
I was curious about those Z units. Do they have any unique features over the EliteDesk?
@luisbvs
@luisbvs 6 күн бұрын
@@handmedowntech , they are interesting, slightly larger, better I/O and come with an MXM video card, usually a Nvidia Quadro, for the everything else, it supports pretty much the same hardware as the EliteDesks (2xSO-Dimms, M.2 WiFi, 1xM.2 SSD and 1x3.5 SSD/HDD), I bought one with an i7 CPU, 16GB RAM and put a 512 GB m.2 and since it does support 15mm height bay, I put a 4TB Seagate HDD. I can play games on it, maybe not AAA games, but Fornite and some like that.
@handmedowntech
@handmedowntech 6 күн бұрын
I went looking but there didn't seem to be quite as many on eBay as with the EliteDesks
@chrisbartlett259
@chrisbartlett259 6 күн бұрын
Love the video. I have the Dell variant of this affliction. Rather than potato chips I'd liken this more to them being benign Gremlins. You WILL use it after midnight (after all, that is who we are) and then before you realise there will be more in your presence than you anticipated or could ever need. That is not a bad thing however. Maybe try a Dell Optiplex Micro as a comparison one time? Based on your videos it seems Dells might be more tool-less where it only needs a screwdriver when working on the NVME or expansion slots/WIFI/CPU. SATA & RAM swaps are < 1 min with fingers alone. I've had to create a spreadsheet to manage the resources currently allocated to each of these as they are so easily up/down-gradable they are changing all the time and I have no self-control when one is available for sale for such cheap prices.
@handmedowntech
@handmedowntech 6 күн бұрын
A fellow spreadsheeter. I do that for RAM and drives so I know what is available and what has been deployed. Which Dell would you choose for a comparison? And keep them away from water.
@Hajdew
@Hajdew 6 күн бұрын
i have 7 of thm...
@handmedowntech
@handmedowntech 6 күн бұрын
So someone with self control then 😜
@Hajdew
@Hajdew 6 күн бұрын
@handmedowntech i wanted to buy another 2 yesterday
@handmedowntech
@handmedowntech 6 күн бұрын
The worst is when they have a set of 2 or 3. I keep seeing a set of 3 barebone USDT units for like $48 but then what do 8 do with them?
@Hajdew
@Hajdew 6 күн бұрын
@@handmedowntech i want to do a small LLM with one of this guy and i think i will go with 705 g4 mini for now i use one for nas and one for minecraft server/discord bot
@Hajdew
@Hajdew 6 күн бұрын
@@handmedowntech i saw 3 elitedesks with amd but it was over my budget
@juergenweidner1
@juergenweidner1 6 күн бұрын
I fully agree. I had a space station of a setup with 10 of them. Awesome.
@handmedowntech
@handmedowntech 6 күн бұрын
They stack so nicely. Although the vented hood units then don't get the airflow. The one thing I'd want is the rack mount unit that HP sold. I think it held 8 units. Looks like a baker bringing out a batch of bread
6 күн бұрын
I have to have a cluster, a workstation, a backup for the work station, speaking of backups.. how about a NAS? what about the grandkids? the wife, a Pfsense appliance, and maybe I need to get more before ebay runs out of them! maybe they will become collectors items and go up in value!
6 күн бұрын
My God! exactly what I'm going through!
6 күн бұрын
IT'S YOUR FAULT!
@handmedowntech
@handmedowntech 6 күн бұрын
The first step is acknowledging you have a problem 😜. I've done the "I'm buying this for the family, etc.,", never pans out since I keep them anyway.
@barrykirkby9626
@barrykirkby9626 7 күн бұрын
yip pretty good, got 3 myself.... not so keen on the new design though, prefer these old stye ones.
@handmedowntech
@handmedowntech 6 күн бұрын
G2?
@barrykirkby9626
@barrykirkby9626 6 күн бұрын
@@handmedowntech 2 G3's and 1 G2.. still good for their age and 2 are running large 100tb media servers using external drives. The 3rd - G2 is being used as a graphics machine and virtualbox job. All 3 are running Linux mint rather than windows.
@handmedowntech
@handmedowntech 6 күн бұрын
Very nice. I have a G1 as a backup NAS and just started playing with jellyfin as a way to view photos and listen to music
@jb31842
@jb31842 7 күн бұрын
As Lucy Van Pelt once said (albeit much closer to a different holiday): "The mere fact that you realize you need help indicates that you are not too far gone."
@handmedowntech
@handmedowntech 7 күн бұрын
A true connoisseur of the finer animated fare.
@burkec33
@burkec33 7 күн бұрын
Yep, I have one for my desktop running Linux Mint and 2 others clustered with Proxmox. Can't keep my eye of another to add to the cluster. I can stop anytime I want, at least that's what I tell myself. :)
@handmedowntech
@handmedowntech 7 күн бұрын
But only a cluster of two? Don't you really need it to be 3? :)
@burkec33
@burkec33 7 күн бұрын
@@handmedowntech One always needs n+1 in their homelab.
@handmedowntech
@handmedowntech 5 күн бұрын
And a backup if that goes out 😉
@Yandarval
@Yandarval 7 күн бұрын
I just recieved a 800 G4 65w. I was hoping it was just someone plugged the wrong power brick in. As we all know a 65w machine will not work with a 65w PSU.Sadly DOA. It was listed as not starting Another oddity is its missing the USB-C power connector in the top left corner AND the MXM connector for the GPU. HP penny pinching.
@handmedowntech
@handmedowntech 7 күн бұрын
Not sure if the missing GPU connector was unique to some European models? Thought I had someone comment on that. Sorry too on the DOA, very disappointing I know
@Yandarval
@Yandarval 7 күн бұрын
@@handmedowntech Always a possibility when its lasted s not starting. Looks like there is some corrosion from a spillage under the WiFi card. I do get the green LED when power is applied on the mobo, but nothing else. I did get some parts, 256Gb NVME, I5 8500 and 90 watt PSU. I tried my own PSU in case thiers was faulty. The irony is, that I got a G4 for the powered USB-C. Which this one does not have the option of using lol.
@handmedowntech
@handmedowntech 7 күн бұрын
Based on what I've seen. Only the 35w G4 has that white power block on the mobo. And nice haul you got of parts!
@Yandarval
@Yandarval 7 күн бұрын
@@handmedowntech Cannot complain too much about a PSU and NVME. Still to test the WIFI card. Looks ok. Now you mention it. 35w and USBC rings a bell. I would have put a T CPU in eventually.
@ytguy2010
@ytguy2010 7 күн бұрын
I only have 2 mini PC's: one HP EliteDesk 800 G2 Mini 65W and one Lenovo ThinkCentre M710q Tiny. Here is a little bit of history. HP was the first to release a "mini PC" with the dc7800 Ultra Slim Desktop (Core 2 Duo). Lenovo and Dell did not follow. Then Lenovo was the first to release a "real mini PC" with the ThinkCentre M92p Tiny (3rd gen Core i). Then HP and Dell followed one year later with the HP EliteDesk 800 G1 (4th gen Core i) and Dell Optiplex 9020 Micro (4th gen Core i).
@handmedowntech
@handmedowntech 7 күн бұрын
So now you've piqued my interest as a collector and content provider. I may need to look at those two "historical" units as possible additions. Time to take over the next room with more PCs.
@todderbert
@todderbert 7 күн бұрын
We want to see HP Ryzen Minis! :)
@handmedowntech
@handmedowntech 7 күн бұрын
HP vs Dell, Ford vs Chevy, AMD vs Intel, the battle rages 😉
@Yandarval
@Yandarval 7 күн бұрын
@@handmedowntech The 705 Ryzens are 65w. While more powerful, most people want 35w for the lower idle power. The 65w machines are also noticible louder, even while idling. The Ryzen 5 Pro 2400g in the G4 705s are roughly the same as an Intel 8400. Usually, six physical cores is preferable to four physical and four virtual of the Ryzen.
@stevenbell9589
@stevenbell9589 7 күн бұрын
Question what os are you going to use on them when windows 10 support ends. and my 800 g2 mini I had 4 of them now down to just one and already made the switch to chrome os flex for my usage it works like a dream
@handmedowntech
@handmedowntech 7 күн бұрын
Check out my video on windows 10 support going away and the ramifications for the older units. Most likely most of my units would be using proxmox but right now I use them for reference on the channel.
@jina3522
@jina3522 7 күн бұрын
maybe.. you should get another one,how about the thinkcentre one ? How about the dell one? hh
@jina3522
@jina3522 7 күн бұрын
of course, I got all of them 😜
@handmedowntech
@handmedowntech 7 күн бұрын
I have to show some restraint 😉
@digitalzips
@digitalzips 7 күн бұрын
Mini PCs are the Tribbles of the computer world. Small and cute.
@handmedowntech
@handmedowntech 7 күн бұрын
You nailed it. And from a Trekkie I thank you.
@dogdooish
@dogdooish 7 күн бұрын
I got one !! I love it!! It cost $127.00 AU! I live on Solar power, I love 35 Watts! I'm waiting on a pair of 16gig ram!! AND I love your channel!
@handmedowntech
@handmedowntech 7 күн бұрын
Thanks and be careful. They are social beings and need more of their kind 😉
@laurentb.2064
@laurentb.2064 7 күн бұрын
I'm worried because I'm starting to collect HP Minis like you. 😄I have two 800 G9s (I love them 🥰), but I have had a 260, a 400, a 600 G6 or G9 in my hands for me 🙃or to prepare for family or friends. But I cannot see G6, G8 or G9 in your collection.🧐 I can't wait to see some on your channel. 😁 We are starting to see G6s or 260 G4s under 100 euros. It's very tempting. But be careful, if the price is low, it may be because the PC is unusable because the bios or "power on" is locked by passwords and I believe that is the only way to unlock them and desolder the BIOS chip, reprogram it and re-solder it. I am not capable of unsoldder/solder and I find it very unfortunate that HP removed the password reset jumper to force us to buy a new motherboard if password is lost... supposedly to limit theft, but not good for the planet. 🤢
@handmedowntech
@handmedowntech 7 күн бұрын
That has been a concern of mine. The truly locked BIOS. I definitely would like a G6 for the dual flexio ports.
@sean-2e0xbt57
@sean-2e0xbt57 7 күн бұрын
I have the same addiction, I bought 6 this month lol and gave one to my son who is very happy with it... I really gotta stop watching your videos lol
@handmedowntech
@handmedowntech 7 күн бұрын
I get the question. So what are you going to do with all of these? Because of their size they tend to hide themselves until you discover you already have a bunch lying around 😉
@tyfp3854
@tyfp3854 7 күн бұрын
Got anything for wifi6?
@handmedowntech
@handmedowntech 7 күн бұрын
I have been waiting for a wifi6 router I can put openwrt on. Friend has one from Netgear that has worked well but the price is still high. I like $20 routers that I don't mind bricking.
@paulwalker427
@paulwalker427 7 күн бұрын
great video *addiction though
@handmedowntech
@handmedowntech 7 күн бұрын
You are my savior, just fixed it. But it kinda also makes sense as addition 😜
@MotownBatman
@MotownBatman 7 күн бұрын
Man.... If You have Extras I'll Help Ya! I wanna find a Small stack of these to make the Kiddos & Neighbors all Matching Retro-Gaming Boxes
@tyfp3854
@tyfp3854 7 күн бұрын
Me too especially anything that is g1 to g9
@handmedowntech
@handmedowntech 7 күн бұрын
But then that would be an excuse for me to buy more....hnmm
@MotownBatman
@MotownBatman 7 күн бұрын
@@handmedowntech No No No. You're "UpGrading" your Outdated Junk LOL
@handmedowntech
@handmedowntech 7 күн бұрын
You are dangerous 😉
@7853007
@7853007 10 күн бұрын
I have elitedesk 800 G5. Its cpu temperature remains between 60 to 80 degree Celsius. Is it normal? Room temperature is 26 degree celsius. Please also make a video about checking and troubleshoooting fan related problems. Thank u
@handmedowntech
@handmedowntech 10 күн бұрын
I have a i5 9500t and waking up it was around 32 but running the heavy load tester it went up to 77 after 4 minutes. So your numbers sound right. Ty Hanks for the suggestion on fan diagnosis. After I stopped the heavy load it went back into the high 40s after a couple of minutes
@sterlingnumba7651
@sterlingnumba7651 10 күн бұрын
Is this real? I can only connect 3 monitors out of 4, the 4th one is always greyed out in settings and unusable. What’s your video card?
@handmedowntech
@handmedowntech 10 күн бұрын
I have 3 connected to the ports on the back and then I have a docking station with two ports on it that are connected to two more monitors. The docking station connects via the front USB c port on the EliteDesk.
@user.A9
@user.A9 12 күн бұрын
Hmmm I think my BIOSes are at 2.49...
@handmedowntech
@handmedowntech 12 күн бұрын
HP has been pretty good about supporting these older units. Just when I think they're done I'll see a new version pop up. You can sometimes use HP support assistant to upgrade but the upgrade via BIOS seems the most consistent for me.
@user.A9
@user.A9 11 күн бұрын
@@handmedowntech I checked the website. For My Prodesk 400 G3, they still only offer 2.49 :o(
@daviddaniel1001
@daviddaniel1001 12 күн бұрын
What's the diffrence between prodesk g3 and the elitedesk g3?
@handmedowntech
@handmedowntech 12 күн бұрын
I hope to have a comparison video on those two units soon. Basic difference include choice of CPU, power, and remote management.
@butterbagboy
@butterbagboy 12 күн бұрын
You often mention if a unit has a Broadcom or Intel based Ethernet chip, can you speak on if there is any difference and or is one better than the other?
@handmedowntech
@handmedowntech 12 күн бұрын
Some programs like pfsense and operating systems have compatibility issues with non Intel NICs. HP tends to put the Intel network ports in their higher priced units and use the realtek and broadcom to save money in their more budget friendly computers.
@alansmithee.01
@alansmithee.01 12 күн бұрын
I have a ProDesk 600 G2 which looks identical to the EliteDesk 800 G2 that you've featured in past videos!
@handmedowntech
@handmedowntech 12 күн бұрын
I guess we'd call them fraternal twins. Look alike but just slightly different. How do you like the G2?
@abdulazizaltalhi7866
@abdulazizaltalhi7866 14 күн бұрын
11-18 -24 thrift finds a G5 I79700t for $9.99 😃 that's why I'm here .
@handmedowntech
@handmedowntech 14 күн бұрын
The total cost for the G5?? Amazing!