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@hugogarcia5782
@hugogarcia5782 23 күн бұрын
Where can I find a cam kit looking for a stage one
@777hdt
@777hdt Ай бұрын
Great video. Surprised the very low hp for a stroker motor
@ahmed9399
@ahmed9399 4 ай бұрын
Really cool info thank you! So on a 6768 precision 256/264 cam you did 457kw or 613whp on ethanol on 25psi (210kw or 280whp at 4000rpm 15psi). And Im assuming these runs were on pump gas: 353kw or 473whp on oem cams VS 384kw or 515whp resulted gains = +31kw or +42whp and that takes into account +1.5psi gained on the cam. So really the cam gains without the added boost was around +20whp? You didnt mention the lift but this sounds like this cam was way too small? The only noticeable advantage was probably stiffer springs to prevent valve float on ethanol?
@GTRliffe
@GTRliffe 4 ай бұрын
i dont uderstand why these vids stopped, theres almost none in sydney that do this. i hope we can see more of these again
@michellelabuschagne1683
@michellelabuschagne1683 5 ай бұрын
Thanks so much for the clip . I can't wait to sort my car
@rob3332
@rob3332 5 ай бұрын
Imagine putting a stage 3 cam in and seeing these results.. 😮‍💨
@hemiheritage
@hemiheritage 6 ай бұрын
I did the Stage 1 NSR Comp Cam MK 112 300 11 on a 2006 5.7 hemi that was pushing 324.6whp/364.1wtq with longtube headers with a dynotune. Haven't had it dynoed since the Cam install and new dynotune
@davidsosnak2968
@davidsosnak2968 6 ай бұрын
Does stage 1 and 2 helps or doest help motor to be more reliable?
@srt8rocketship241
@srt8rocketship241 5 ай бұрын
Been driving mine for over 2 years now with stage 2 and no issues. Get a good tuner. My guy reprogrammed transmission as well. Great daily driver.
@mikew6135
@mikew6135 7 ай бұрын
Frp has a Tomahawk 2.0 cam with 111 LSA . For a street car this should be all one would need and make great power everywhere. I think 108-110 would be the best LSA for these cars with 108 preferred. A cam with 230-235@50 intake duration would be all you would ever need. You could run a single patteen on these cars as they have decent exhaust flow. Of course a cam with that much duration and that tight lss would require flycut or aftermarket pistons. The 6.4 with upgraded springs is more than capable of 7000+rpm which is where the 230+ cams will shine and the tight LSA would keep your bottom end. The idle would be radical and a good tuner mandatory. I will be building my Hellcat next year. Most likely will spec a custom cam though the FRP offerings are getting pretty close. A cam with 230in 242exh and 108lsa would be very nice indeed. Boost in the 20-23lb range with my Kong ported 4.5 Whipple.💪 It will be 400+ci. Im factory blower and 17lbs on pump gas now with a few gallons of e85 and some boostane for safety. I plan to run E85 when built and leaded e85 when i need to push the car harder
@DoctorMotorcycle
@DoctorMotorcycle 6 ай бұрын
Hemi's do not work well with tight lobes, and generally anything that adds Overlap with restrictive street exhausts is going to result in a loss down low. Nobody who's familiar with the Gen 3 hemi is going to put a Single Pattern, Long Duration Cam with a tight lobes in it. It's all centered around keeping overlap to a minimum, because they don't respond well to it.Going from a 224* at .050" to 234*@.050 would require closing the intake valve 5* later (low-mid loss) and double the overlap from 5 to 10 (which with street exhaust's will result in more power lost). Which is why once you get to the 220-228 @ .050" Intake/230-238ish at .050" exhaust range and 112-114 Lobe sep, you see greatly diminishing returns on both the 5.7 and 6.1/6.4. 2 of the 3 Guys that have gone 10's N/A on 5.7 Hemis in trucks, guess what the cam specs were? 218/228 at .050" on a 112 LSA. Jay Greene's cams have even more split, 15* or more. One last Caveat - FRP Ryan's Cams, even those that have tightish lobes, aren't a 111 LSA, they're a 111ICL. By advancing the cam timing and not the lobe, he gets the low-mid increase from the earlier intake valve close, but doesn't need to add in the duration and overlap that you'd get from moving just the intake lobe, which would cause the power loss experienced in this video. Check out SPDC's hemi cam testing - they tested a 108LSA, and a 112 matched it down low and made more in the midrange and up top as well. Notice how once they get to the high 21X range on the intake and high 22X range on the exhaust, there's really not much more gains. kzbin.info/www/bejne/iKm2gnesnNaYd7s
@taziblessing9305
@taziblessing9305 8 ай бұрын
I have stage 3 hemi 6.1 Chrysler
@IM-hf9vy
@IM-hf9vy 9 ай бұрын
Need updated video I'm at 750.6 hp at the wheel on 91 octane in a 2018 trackhawk so by the calculation I'm about 950 hp by the crank
@bigal878
@bigal878 9 ай бұрын
Good video
@eng.ahmadalmalki7309
@eng.ahmadalmalki7309 9 ай бұрын
Many thanks for this huge informations. I dropped stage 1 in my 6.4 scat pack and i just added filter intake (afe) and also removed the convertor, all other parts are factory, my question is do i need headers (after market)? If yes, which headers do you recommend and size.
@1320_ikimasho
@1320_ikimasho 7 ай бұрын
For Stage 1, you don't need headers. Stage 2, headers and new valve train. Stage 3, valve train, headers, ported heads, TB, ported manifold. Stage 4 is all out race car .
@ZacWade
@ZacWade 9 ай бұрын
Great video. Just ordered the comp stage 1 nsr 218/228. Can’t wait to see the numbers on the dyno for that on my jgc srt
@Eqium
@Eqium 9 ай бұрын
humm pretty sad HP compared to an LS the days of Holden v8's beating small block chevys is over
@TechReviews2010
@TechReviews2010 9 ай бұрын
I think my old man's worn LS pulled more than that standard and still running with 450000ks on it. Nice VK Tho I was expecting way more power even as NA.
@benrobertson7855
@benrobertson7855 10 ай бұрын
Hi ,got recommended from the comments on rad potential,this is just so much fantastic info for my 13b na bp rx4 coupe.I can’t thank you enough.appreciate you giving such a clear honest,open vid. Best regards from New Zealand.
@rubengomez2005
@rubengomez2005 10 ай бұрын
I’m installing a hellcat supercharger on my 2011 5.7 Cherokee
@fke965
@fke965 11 ай бұрын
I almost always pick the smaller one and ENJOY it so much
@fke965
@fke965 11 ай бұрын
I almost always pick the smaller one and ENJOY it so much
@bradharding2632
@bradharding2632 8 ай бұрын
Stage 1 is better.
@doug774
@doug774 11 ай бұрын
Great video very informative
@STRRAYNGE
@STRRAYNGE 11 ай бұрын
Non MDS lifters are required, correct? I had been looking at a stage 3 cam for my 2019 scat pack challenger, but after looking at your other video and dyno numbers of the 3 stages compared, the stage 1 seems like a no brainer, especially on stock internals.
@kennethstrickland477
@kennethstrickland477 Жыл бұрын
Your stage 3 sucke
@kimboDragon
@kimboDragon Жыл бұрын
Yep I want to see more 355 tuning 👍
@mikey13b
@mikey13b Жыл бұрын
Very cool
@str8o.g241
@str8o.g241 Жыл бұрын
Great video, have u got any videos setting up the mixtures
@darwonboyful
@darwonboyful Жыл бұрын
Great results from such a mild engine. The mixture plot really shows how fuel injection can fill in all those areas where the mixture isn't optimum even though peak power might not be much more
@mikew6135
@mikew6135 Жыл бұрын
Obviously no need for any more than stage 1 on the stock motor. One of the MAJOR issues is LSA. Usually the smaller cams have tighter LSA which makes more TQ and average HP. Just facts. Somehow in all our modern wisdom; we think that adding duration along with a widened LSA is the way to go. It's not! Run a tighter LSA and moderate duration. This will provide what the engine wants and not what you want. On a Hellcat you could grind a cam with factory numbers except for big tightening of the LSA and make more power everywhere. Most likely beating aftermarket wide LSA cams in average power. You could also keep your VVT while increasing power everywhere. On a side note . You CAN get a lopey idle with the smaller can and tighter LSA
@1320_ikimasho
@1320_ikimasho 7 ай бұрын
Very well said! 💯👍
@donwest5387
@donwest5387 Жыл бұрын
They're Datsun 510s
@donwest5387
@donwest5387 Жыл бұрын
I have a built napz 2.4/SSS head on mine. (suzuki electric power steering)
@captain052A
@captain052A Жыл бұрын
Absolutely best video and best channel who replies to comments properly. 100% RESPECT
@unigroupengineering
@unigroupengineering Жыл бұрын
I appreciate that!
@jtc1964x
@jtc1964x Жыл бұрын
None of these seem to be worth the trouble. I am pulling 426HP and 425 lb-ft stock with a stock Chrysler 5.7 exhaust on my 6.4. Tiny gains for the cams
@dannymcbride783
@dannymcbride783 Жыл бұрын
Cap the brand new 5.7's only make 370 to the crank stock. You pulled those numbers out of your ass, along with your husband's semen.
@kisoshi898
@kisoshi898 Жыл бұрын
I recently had a dyno result of 444 hp on my rt scatpack. Any suggestions of which stage cam and brand that I should check for 30 more hp?
@Cultofpersonality09129
@Cultofpersonality09129 Жыл бұрын
Did you watch the video?
@danieljohn4603
@danieljohn4603 5 ай бұрын
The baseline for my 2019 Scatpack was 445 HP/ 457 TQ. with a ported 84 mm throttle body, and an email 93 tune, I made 471/475. So I gained 26 rwhp. If you are only looking for 30 HP, I wouldn’t waste the time or money installing a Camshaft.
@captain052A
@captain052A Жыл бұрын
What brand camshafts are they? Comp ? Texas?
@bajan_hove9078
@bajan_hove9078 Жыл бұрын
I know this is a old vid but how you get your cam to have a smooth Idle? Is the mds still Active?
@unigroupengineering
@unigroupengineering Жыл бұрын
It’s done by adjusting idle control parameters in the tune. Lightly loading up the engine with small converter always helps.
@robertorodriguez6872
@robertorodriguez6872 Жыл бұрын
Something is wrong here...I've seen dyno runs making more or the same power then that on a stock 392... so then whats the need for a cam exchange just saying...
@ehpunka
@ehpunka Жыл бұрын
This is the type of video I have been looking for
@bradysmith3024
@bradysmith3024 2 жыл бұрын
fun fact, Hellcat lifters are identical to the 6.4 and 5.7 hemi.
@kevingilmore9366
@kevingilmore9366 Жыл бұрын
true
@kevingilmore9366
@kevingilmore9366 Жыл бұрын
better upgrade is a hellcat oil pump
@srt8rocketship241
@srt8rocketship241 5 ай бұрын
Comp had a delay on lifters with my stage 2 cam. HHP sent me the Hellcat units . The goal was no more MDS so object met.
@pmp2559
@pmp2559 2 жыл бұрын
So are all stage 1 cams from different manufacturers the same in performance levels? Is this something new I don’t recall having stage 1-2-3 cams for older engines like 340-440? Thanks
@captainboose8788
@captainboose8788 Жыл бұрын
The "stage" name became popular because LS stuff, I always look at the duration, that is most important
@jamesmclennan3618
@jamesmclennan3618 2 жыл бұрын
Mine would always die first take off then it would be fine did have an over heating issue
@youdontknowordoyou
@youdontknowordoyou 2 жыл бұрын
I have the 2012 300 SRT8, I wonder how this would look with the 5 speed instead of the 8 speed trans.
@change_your_oil_regularly4287
@change_your_oil_regularly4287 2 жыл бұрын
You don't need a 1000rwkw "$2k barra" to enjoy driving your weekend street car Some of the nicest sounding engines I've ever heard were 304, 308, 355, 383 Holden V8s A nice Holden V8 sounds much better than an LS IMO
@donsonbr
@donsonbr 2 жыл бұрын
love the video I wish you were in Dallas to install it on my 6.4 hemi
@WhiteMouse77
@WhiteMouse77 2 жыл бұрын
......Dear Santa....
@Welcometofacsistube
@Welcometofacsistube 2 жыл бұрын
I have a 14 srt 300. 52000km and not one issue
@scottandrews4822
@scottandrews4822 2 жыл бұрын
What about the torque figures?
@vincentenk4449
@vincentenk4449 2 жыл бұрын
Great vid! She sounds like an evil wench when she's on cam & winding up! I'm here in the states & contemplating a 6.4 upgrade for my '06 300. How much of a PITA is that & how do you switch the idle from choppy to smooth?
@morrischoo9960
@morrischoo9960 2 жыл бұрын
The variable cam timing retards the cam as revs increase. Idk, but let's say it varies by 8 degrees. Would maybe start out with a 4 degree advance on the cam optimized for torque in the middle of the power band. And at half rpm or 3050, would be at zero degrees. Then drop a degree every 760 rpm increase. It's best to pick a cam that gives the best average horsepower from basically 1000 rpm to redline. And the flattest torque curve. A dialed in setup is what is needed. No one component will ever really improve and engine like the 6.4 without supporting changes. Best post I've seen thus far . Eliminating the non wrenching boy racers opinions is a refreshing thing. Noise and lope are not necessarily faster. Efficiency always is.
@karlringe9523
@karlringe9523 2 жыл бұрын
Hi. Nice mate. Good work. I learn about the dyno tuning by people like yourself, I am yet to get to efi tuning and diagnosis lol, thank you
@Smickster01
@Smickster01 2 жыл бұрын
i had a datsun 1600, 1.8l twin 45's and it was da best car dat i owned. shit, why am i talking like this, im educated.
@bri-manhunter2654
@bri-manhunter2654 2 жыл бұрын
The stock bottom end can handle the the higher rpm range with upgraded valve train. The 6.4’s do not have a long enough stroke to cause issues. Sorry, but the video is a waste if you are not maxing the cams with their proper rpm range: also, having the cam specs will help a lot as well. Depending on how big the stage 3 is you could benefit from a shorter runner intake with a stall. Moreover, the video was done well.
@captainboose8788
@captainboose8788 Жыл бұрын
Yeah stock 6.4 should be able to rev at least 7000+, Stage 1 is 218/228, stage 2 is 220/230, stage 3 is 224/234 IIRC, with the stage 2 and 3 having higher lift, but less LSA
@Cultofpersonality09129
@Cultofpersonality09129 Жыл бұрын
Lmfao! There’s no such thing as “Stage cams”. Lift, duration, icl and LSA are specs. Not stages. As far as RPM, that has to do with your valvetrain. You can’t just slap a bunch of $hit together out of a catalog.
@bri-manhunter2654
@bri-manhunter2654 Жыл бұрын
@@Cultofpersonality09129. Agreed, that’s why we specs and blue printed my 394CI 6.4L stroker. Even had 5degrees of advance added to the cam to help with torque production in my heavy CrewCab💪🏻. I think it’s mostly the newer car guys whom go by specs. Most people don’t understand specs like we do.
@bri-manhunter2654
@bri-manhunter2654 Жыл бұрын
@@captainboose8788. Still running a 6.4L intake on my stroker with a 233/246 112LSA cam, and revving to 6,600rpm because of 5degrees advance. Went with this on my combo because I’m running a no prep 4X4 setup for the street, extra torque goes a long ways. However, MMX did say I am maxing out the 6.4L intake. A lot of the 5.7L SBE trucks are revving to the 7k+ range with the bigger cams.