The best motorcycle for winter riding...?
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@jerrywines382
@jerrywines382 13 минут бұрын
Dealers were originally taking deposits based on a price of £6.5k before BSA told them to remove any reference to pricing, so I'm hoping they're thinking through exactly the points you're making. On the clocks/tech issue, I've always liked what Guzzi does with the V7, where you can choose between the Stone or Special versions. There will be loads of potential Bear buyers that don't want a big digital clock, so if BSA can give the option of having the beautiful clocks from the Gold Star then it offers something different to the Bear, along with the big single that's far better suited to this type of bike.
@ΠελοπίδαςΛυμπέρης
@ΠελοπίδαςΛυμπέρης 3 сағат бұрын
what a lovely video!!
@mjokffsgfjs
@mjokffsgfjs 3 сағат бұрын
Can't take the breathe drawings, can you position the mic in other ways?
@nishantnongthonbam7633
@nishantnongthonbam7633 5 сағат бұрын
You should do this more often, really enjoyed it. I'm planning to get the Goldstar 650 in May and your channel has helped me make the choice. PS: Love from India.
@passinthru4328
@passinthru4328 6 сағат бұрын
The prospect of selling and buying a bike every 9 months is rather horrifying to me. Hard to turn down a T120.
@alantheloneranger
@alantheloneranger 9 сағат бұрын
Suzie is definitely a keeper ❤
@0scartheCat
@0scartheCat 11 сағат бұрын
Suzie did a job job bringing the guys back on topic as the conversation lurched off in new tangents . . .
@namduran
@namduran 12 сағат бұрын
Sorry I missed you but the time difference caught me out. I’ll set an alarm next time 😅
@seancarter8006
@seancarter8006 12 сағат бұрын
Great first live show! Lots of laughs! definitely plan another one soon 👌
@jaysinhoffner2134
@jaysinhoffner2134 12 сағат бұрын
Need to make the sticker willy its a keeper omL
@ianhalliwell8604
@ianhalliwell8604 12 сағат бұрын
Sorry i couldn't join you, unfortunately i had to take my wife to A&E she's been suffering with a virus since Christmas and unfortunately it got worse. She's had loads of tests and is on antibiotics but feeling better. She says it's no fun getting old, hope it went well for you both.
@rajaakashkumar7099
@rajaakashkumar7099 5 сағат бұрын
Take care of your wife and yourself ❤
@ianhalliwell8604
@ianhalliwell8604 Сағат бұрын
@rajaakashkumar7099 Thanks ill try but unfortunately my wife's a mystery to medical science. They give her tablets to help but every one seems to make her worse.
@davidgriffiths4234
@davidgriffiths4234 13 сағат бұрын
Sorry I missed your 1st podcast, I was digging out the snow on our driveway and Lane and completely forgot you were live. Hopefully you'll do another and I'll remember to attend. 😊
@markstaley5922
@markstaley5922 13 сағат бұрын
I’m a bit late to the party but what a cracking video as a Willie subscriber loved the format so much I’m now a mindful motorcyclist subscriber brilliant you should do this again soon as for the big meet up that would be interesting if we could keep Willie away from the bar 👍
@ruahinesrider
@ruahinesrider 13 сағат бұрын
I logged in for a bit of the live show but had to goto town after awhile. Watching what I missed.I reckon the Bear 🐻 is RE's best bike & a shorter seat be available for it lowering 20mm atleast to 810mm which is only 5mm higher than Interceptor & seat on Bear 🐻 is narrower than Interceptor so with shorter seat be alright for shorter riders.
@exeterrider
@exeterrider 13 сағат бұрын
Looks like your on to something here, some big numbers there for your first one!
@stuartsharpe5513
@stuartsharpe5513 13 сағат бұрын
Looking forward to the money of willy 😂
@PeterHolland-mu7yn
@PeterHolland-mu7yn 14 сағат бұрын
You guys did that well for a first time enjoyed it, became a bit transfixed with Will leaning forward and looking over his goggles at the posts 🤣🤣🤣🤣 well doe Suzie for keeping some sort of order, hope you got paid for it hell of a job 🤣….. Pete🇫🇷
@johnfountain8588
@johnfountain8588 14 сағат бұрын
From Florida 🦩🦩
@matusknives
@matusknives 15 сағат бұрын
I am only finding this video now (I was not into bikes back kn 2022) - I am glad you have enjoyed my home country (nobody drew you over or nicked your bike 😁). The places you have been driving in the first few minutes are not far from my home town and actually very close to our small cottage in the mountains. Anyhow - I will be a biker soon, so should you be planning a visit of Slovakia again, just let me know.
@-old-school-motorcyclesltd
@-old-school-motorcyclesltd 15 сағат бұрын
Loved that great to see you all, very refreshing, great laugh and look forward to the next episode 💯😊😊😊 Atb Phil
@davidwandless4103
@davidwandless4103 15 сағат бұрын
Enjoyed your live podcast.......good laugh and informative too. Look firward to the next one.
@MindfulMotorcyclist
@MindfulMotorcyclist 15 сағат бұрын
Thanks so much David 🙏
@pinkiewerewolf
@pinkiewerewolf 15 сағат бұрын
I have to get the time difference down. If I hadn't checked KZbin on my phone at the lumber yard I'd have misses the livestream, which would have been a shame because it was excellent!
@MindfulMotorcyclist
@MindfulMotorcyclist 15 сағат бұрын
Thanks for joining Pinkie!
@pinkiewerewolf
@pinkiewerewolf 15 сағат бұрын
@@MindfulMotorcyclist Thanks for having me over! 😊😂 Seriously, you three have a good banter that is enjoyable to watch.
@ruahinesrider
@ruahinesrider 13 сағат бұрын
​@@pinkiewerewolfLooking forward to your trip with Fuzzy Pinkie.
@johnnybgood7812
@johnnybgood7812 Күн бұрын
I’m not going to gush…….. Proceeds to gush! 😆 Understandable though, fantastic bike and great review thanks. A trip down memory lane for me as that’s where I rode before moving north of Hadrians Wall.
@MindfulMotorcyclist
@MindfulMotorcyclist 22 сағат бұрын
I couldn't help it on this one, am a fan of the guerrilla...
@johnnybgood7812
@johnnybgood7812 22 сағат бұрын
@ I’m definitely thinking of trading my HNTR 350 for one. Love that bike and I’ve upgraded it quite a bit but the Guerrilla is calling to me loudly!
@benschofield7565
@benschofield7565 Күн бұрын
Can't see it being under 6k, I'd have guessed more like £6700. I hope you're right though! We'll find out sometime around November.....
@MindfulMotorcyclist
@MindfulMotorcyclist Күн бұрын
I can't either, sadly. As I'm sure they are not that much to manufacture over in India...
@Trev350
@Trev350 Күн бұрын
​@@MindfulMotorcyclistyou will probably be able to pick one up in India for half what we will be expected to pay in the UK
@andyb.5268
@andyb.5268 Күн бұрын
If that goldstar was to look a bit xt500 like with a proper full front mudgaurd - well it would look so much better, however it's just a style job, heavy and no real offroad substance like beefed up longer travel suspension, disk cover, hand protectors. Yamaha please bring out an XT500 twin shock retro bike.
@0scartheCat
@0scartheCat Күн бұрын
I like Agricultural … handling & reliability… love that chug ability 🚜
@MindfulMotorcyclist
@MindfulMotorcyclist Күн бұрын
Well I'm excited about the Scram 440 for this reason... seems to have updated a lot of the pain points of the old version
@LordTarbicus9497
@LordTarbicus9497 Күн бұрын
Spot on comments and concerns. There is absolutely nothing that gives me any confidence in the scrambler being spot on . Let’s face it it’s the same bike as the Goldstar and they can’t get that completely running trouble free still. It still has cut out issues even after updates. Problem is nobody wants to stand up and admit they are still having problems.
@MindfulMotorcyclist
@MindfulMotorcyclist Күн бұрын
Good comment Dave 👍
@advocateyusufkhan6186
@advocateyusufkhan6186 Күн бұрын
I have an old m20 BSA bike
@ianhalliwell8604
@ianhalliwell8604 Күн бұрын
Think it's fair to say that BSA couldn't organise a p/up in a brewery. The price of a GoldStar is now as low as £4500 and the scrambler is just a modified version of that bike so expecting it to retail it at over 6 grand is a definite no no. History tells us that after 12 months they will knock it down by 2 grand, so wait till then, it's obvious.
@MindfulMotorcyclist
@MindfulMotorcyclist Күн бұрын
I'll be waiting and watching on this one Ian, I do like the bike but I don't want to lose a lot of value in year 1
@Trev350
@Trev350 Күн бұрын
​@@MindfulMotorcyclistalways wait 12 to 18 months from the introduction of any brand new model, just to see what happens. Have they got it right? Ideally, buy new after a couple of years on sale, then any teething troubles should have been fixed and updates incorporated into the bike you purchase. Or if you're mad keen on riding the very latest model, just go for it and keep your fingers crossed.
@sweeny1972
@sweeny1972 Күн бұрын
What could possibly go wrong! Sunday should be a blast...
@peakrider4886
@peakrider4886 Күн бұрын
I agree the bike needs to be bang on point from day one, and the pricing has to be right. £5.5k seems to be the right area based on the Triumphs and also where the current Goldstar is priced. If it’s over £6k then customers have learnt that if they wait for a while BSA will reduce prices in order to sell them, and if you’ve already waited 6 months, then a bit longer isn’t such a big deal.
@MindfulMotorcyclist
@MindfulMotorcyclist Күн бұрын
I agree, I'd be tempted now to wait until the price normalises, rather than buy the on from the first shipment over here...
@lipsee100
@lipsee100 Күн бұрын
In my opinion this Scrambler is missing something here ,,,if its a Scrambler with any thought of going off road,it should have a 21inch front wheel and the front mudguard should be a proper one maybe styled like the 411s... Of course it needs a center stand ,,no doubt its a nice bike,,but there,s still lots of issues to sort out.. Make it look pretty sure ,,but thats the last issue to sort,,its got to be more practical,, function over form did not do the old RE 411 himi any harm and BSA always sold basic practical bikes why change
@MindfulMotorcyclist
@MindfulMotorcyclist Күн бұрын
Good point about the centre stand, especially for me who uses the bike off road...
@stephennewell6628
@stephennewell6628 2 күн бұрын
I think Poulsen customs offer the best option for a BSA scrambler, they have nailed the look and I love that their’s still has the twin retro clocks.
@MindfulMotorcyclist
@MindfulMotorcyclist 2 күн бұрын
I've got the Poulsen customs decat pipe blanking kit in the post. That really improves the looks when you have removed the cat..
@Book-bz8ns
@Book-bz8ns 2 күн бұрын
Kinda thought the "classic" referred to it being the classic bullet.. sorta thing
@1990-t1j
@1990-t1j 2 күн бұрын
It looks really good. BSA sound like they need to get their act together. Nick
@ogasi1798
@ogasi1798 2 күн бұрын
i develop electronic musical instruments for one of, if not the largest manufacturer in the world, they take time and often suffer setbacks due to the amount of software and more importantly the hardware linkups involved, these are complicated pieces of hardware BUT they are not motorcycles, knocking back the arrival time a couple of months on motorcycles is nothing - i know many will not appreciate or be aware of this but manufacturing on a mass scale is not easy, so many cogs have to line up - so many cogs.... the price is vital i agree, i said this myself - imo the bear is over priced by some margin - best part of 7k is getting up there for what the bike is, BSA can steal the thunder by going low, even if it is only in year 1 as a promo. The BSA easily has the looks dept covered too.
@MindfulMotorcyclist
@MindfulMotorcyclist Күн бұрын
Yes BSA could steal the thunder, I don't think the bear is worth £7k tbh, it's still a 47hp bike even with its nice looks...
@ogasi1798
@ogasi1798 22 сағат бұрын
@@MindfulMotorcyclist more competition the better 🙂
@simongilbert2704
@simongilbert2704 2 күн бұрын
this is a bit sad and daft , bsa only make 1 bike , ;;; the new one is only a tarted up version , so what's going on ;; it's a buyers market , so look out bsa , after all this is no more capable than the gold star with trail tyres ;;
@ianhalliwell8604
@ianhalliwell8604 Күн бұрын
You are spot on, Enfield seem to do everything right and BSA everything wrong.
@MindfulMotorcyclist
@MindfulMotorcyclist Күн бұрын
Yes my own Goldstar would probably do better in the mud and slippery stuff as it has proper knobby tyres on there. Ground clearance there isn't much in it and suspension travel is 10mm more on the scrambler compared to the road based Goldstar. The case for me changing isn't strong tbh...
@ADSCoachSimonB2112
@ADSCoachSimonB2112 2 күн бұрын
The BSA Goldstar had many issues with reliability and delivery problems that really impacted on sales. For a new company and product line it’s not great. Enfield was in the same position 3-4 years ago and they sorted it out. The other issue is there is not enough dealership here
@pinkiewerewolf
@pinkiewerewolf 2 күн бұрын
BSA had better hope the Scrambler is sorted when it comes out and it shouldn’t be priced close to the Bear 650 unless it can deliver the same or better performance. That has been where companies have been failing with scramblers, lack of performance at a reasonable price. BSA has an opportunity to do something special here, we’ll see if they grab the chance. I’m setting my phone’s alarm for 10am on Sunday to remind me to tune in for the show. I think I’ll need booze for my coffee.☕️ 🥃😂
@MindfulMotorcyclist
@MindfulMotorcyclist 2 күн бұрын
Are you not in the UK then Pinkie? 😀
@pinkiewerewolf
@pinkiewerewolf 2 күн бұрын
@@MindfulMotorcyclist I'm in Northern California. I'm close to Eureka which is in Humboldt County and the giant Redwoods.
@Trev350
@Trev350 2 күн бұрын
One would hope that BSA won't make the same mistakes all over again. We shall see. However, the Gold Star has perhaps damaged this brand permanently (I believe)... a bike that was originally £7100 can now be purchased new for under £4999 😢 Imagine if you had paid full original list price for one. How would you feel now? And I've seen the tag line "buy yours now before the price goes back up to £6500. But who is going to pay that sort figure now? (Or ever again for that matter). And the delivery date for the new model has already gone back? Sound familiar?!!😮
@MindfulMotorcyclist
@MindfulMotorcyclist 2 күн бұрын
All valid points, I'm sad to say. I paid £5,495 for mine nearly new in Sept 23, I could have had a new one for 500 quid less if I'd waited 4 months but then I'd have missed out on riding a bike i really like so swings and roundabouts... people who paid 7k and they are now available at some dealers for £4.3k it's a pain that's for sure...
@lipsee100
@lipsee100 2 күн бұрын
@@MindfulMotorcyclist Maybe I should not say I paid 3700 with 500 miles on the clock,,sometimes it just pays to wait..
@MindfulMotorcyclist
@MindfulMotorcyclist Күн бұрын
Well you did get a hellva bargain there. Do you consider that a lot of bike for the money? Surely it is at that price...
@lipsee100
@lipsee100 Күн бұрын
@@MindfulMotorcyclist Yeah I,m happy with my purchase,, but a year ago I was considering a Mash 650,, I just missed a bullet there,,,
@MindfulMotorcyclist
@MindfulMotorcyclist 17 сағат бұрын
Yes I've not seen mash take off really... think you are better off with a GS
@LumpyCarbs
@LumpyCarbs 2 күн бұрын
Scramblers are supposed to have a single clock, no time to look at rev counters off road. So like the Bear the B65 will have a vibration proof LED LCD instrument bezel. This is also required to accommodate the multi riding modes. The show bike had the identical display and switch gear as used on the now proven Yezdi Scrambler. I don’t think the bike should undercut the Bear, it’s actually a better designed and built bike. I hope this time, release dates will be kept to and QA lessons will have been learned. With lower production runs but ramp up of the Gold Stars for its new markets, and the 350 going through final paces, there’s a lot going on. Really looking forward to the London show.
@Trev350
@Trev350 2 күн бұрын
A better built bike than the Bear? What exactly made you come to that conclusion?
@LumpyCarbs
@LumpyCarbs 2 күн бұрын
@ having owned 2 interceptors and now a Gold Star, personal experience and and engineering degree. Having said that, I like both bikes.
@MindfulMotorcyclist
@MindfulMotorcyclist 2 күн бұрын
I hope all goes well, I think a lot of it is in the price. If it can be a little cheaper than the bear it will cement the decision in people's minds who are on the fence...
@LumpyCarbs
@LumpyCarbs 2 күн бұрын
@@MindfulMotorcyclist and that’s why I’d be a useless salesman, pride and obstinance would mean I’d do it anyway.
@MindfulMotorcyclist
@MindfulMotorcyclist 2 күн бұрын
Some people are very price sensitive, oh and I got the blanking plates 😀😀😀
@AlexOnABoat
@AlexOnABoat 2 күн бұрын
I've got to say, why would anyone wait, when the Royal Enfield is just there?
@MindfulMotorcyclist
@MindfulMotorcyclist 2 күн бұрын
Perhaps they want a single cylinder for their scrambler?
@MartinGay-l6k
@MartinGay-l6k 2 күн бұрын
The bear is already in stock at Poole moto.
@MindfulMotorcyclist
@MindfulMotorcyclist 2 күн бұрын
Good to know, I was going off my local dealers allocation
@0scartheCat
@0scartheCat 2 күн бұрын
Correct, TFT & iPad screens put me right off… there is still a place for analog speedos with minimal warning light, such as the Kawasaki 650rs that gets this right. 2 clocks and a few alerts inbetween…
@MindfulMotorcyclist
@MindfulMotorcyclist 2 күн бұрын
Yes the electronic clusters TFT or LCD is don't think look quite right...
@2wheeledwillie395
@2wheeledwillie395 2 күн бұрын
Can't wait for Sunday! 🍻🍺
@exeterrider
@exeterrider 2 күн бұрын
@@2wheeledwillie395 Goodluck, exciting 👍
@MindfulMotorcyclist
@MindfulMotorcyclist 2 күн бұрын
We've built this up a lot now 😂😂😂 we had better not mess it up haha
@PeterHolland-mu7yn
@PeterHolland-mu7yn 2 күн бұрын
🤞crossed the new BSA is the business and at the right price which they stick to and not drop the price weeks after the intro hacking buyers off, I think the yellow n brushed ally one at the show looked well smart, looking forward to the joint chat, best of luck on the night for all 3 of you I’m sure it will be a blast, …..Pete 🇫🇷
@MindfulMotorcyclist
@MindfulMotorcyclist 2 күн бұрын
Thanks Pete, we hope it goes well too 😀😀
@zedcharlie
@zedcharlie 2 күн бұрын
Question. A rose between two thorns? Why is Willie sitting in the middle? 😜
@pinkiewerewolf
@pinkiewerewolf 2 күн бұрын
😂
@MindfulMotorcyclist
@MindfulMotorcyclist 2 күн бұрын
He is the tallest by far, he should sit in the middle really 😀
@matusknives
@matusknives 2 күн бұрын
Armchair expert here. The delay is indeed unfortunate. But once it arrives - the main factor - at least for me - is going to be the suspension. If they get that right it will be a cool bike worth having. Of course, if they price themselves out of the market, then the race will be lost before it ever started. Maybe BSA would have done better to introduce an updated version of the Goldstar - show that they managed to solve the technical issues, listens what customer wants and win more people over. And only then come with a new model.
@MindfulMotorcyclist
@MindfulMotorcyclist 2 күн бұрын
I will say they have updated the Goldstar with the Health check serving to upgrade the older bikes...
@michaelgilbert3311
@michaelgilbert3311 2 күн бұрын
Every thing comes to he who waits. Better to release it a little later whilst ironing out those gremlins and pricing it competively .I believe BSA has learnt from the Gold Star poor release , whilst now ensuring they get their new products right first time, Reliability/competitve pricing resulting in great sales volume . Bfn Mike Sunny Wales
@MindfulMotorcyclist
@MindfulMotorcyclist 2 күн бұрын
That would be ideal yes Mike, a watertight reliable bike for a good price. Yes please 😀
@seancarter8006
@seancarter8006 2 күн бұрын
Looking forward to Sunday night! A drunk Willie is a recipe for carnage!! Good luck Suzie! 😂