I think I love this scene because it is tough LOVE. This is actually a moment when Jimmy tries to support this man as a friend, as weirdly as he does it, when so much of the rest of the show they are tearing down each other.

This is ironically one of the worst times to insult Jimmy as he was being compassionate and helpful. Howard always does stuff backwards no matter the intent lmao

One of my favorite scenes from the show!

The first thing Jimmy hears after he dies in his cell 2:17

We all need a friend like Jimmy who's willing to be hated for saying what they need to hear the most

"Jimmy motivates his downtrodden friend" yeah that's one way of putting it.

I wish there was a scene where Jimmy got to tell Howard he was a good man

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2:18 When Jimmy Johns says they can't put live rats in my sandwhich.

One thing I’ve always liked about Jimmy is that he was always annoyed with Howard not being better because he was always hiding behind Chuck later on

There is an alternate universe where Jimmy was hired by HHM and helped build it back up

Jimmy was definitely projecting here, lol. I guess deep down he believed he was the cause of HHM's setbacks. Jimmy feels responsible for Chuck's death, he tries to deflect the blame onto Howard, but when Howard's mental health improves, he can't shift the blame anymore and chaos ensues.

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scenes like that are the reason why it made zero sense in show how Jimmy later went on this warpath to utterly destroy Howards life. He actually liked him, admired him especially after he found out it was Chuck all along. That never made any sense.

if only jimmy and howard had just worked it out, howard wouldve been a great influence to jimmy

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Jimmy always trying to negate his own feelings by belittling someone else’s

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“You wanna save your business? You wanna save your dignity? You’re gonna have to fight!” A message that could only be delivered by someone who spent a lifetime fighting. Just the pep talk Howard needed.

I think people are missing the wisdom in Jimmy’s strategy: he knows Howard is passive and reactive. He’s not a true self-starter. So Jimmy decided to give Howard some disses in an attempt to increase his reactive energy and get his company back.

More absurdity... they have plenty of work at HHM... they're just not that stupid to not have a lots of work coming in.

And Jimmy supported and encouraged Howard every day forward.

"Howard amd Jimmy, two guys who shouldve gotten along, but their personalities got in the way.."

This is EXACTLY what Howard needed. That anger is a gift, IF, you can harness it. It's rocket fuel for change, but it will burn your house down if you don't control it.

This is the exact moment moment became exact became Heisenberg exact became the moment

Hey. You’re a shitty fanbase, but you have great taste. So get out there and binge.

this scene explain why jimmy so hesitant when Kim plotting a plan to ruin Howard reputation. He dislike Howard, sure. But all he was done up until then was only a harmless pranks (bowling ball, hooker, etc.)

wtf is this?

You are the greatest salesman I ever knew, and you're to stupid to see, you are a shitty lawyer. - Hank Goodman

I still sincerely believe this was the nicest, friendliest interaction Jimmy and Howard had throughout the entire show

From my opinion, if Chuck was not there to orchestrate Howard from behind to down play Jimmy, these two would be a very good friend, Howard would totally support Jimmy and see Jimmy’s potential, and Jimmy wouldn’t spent years hating Howard.

THE DEFINITION OF TOUGH LOVE

Jimmy indeed is fundamentally sleazy and he owns it, but Jimmy does react here exactly the way I would react to the same situation. The solution to ANY business that is in the process of implosion by external factors and by a system that does not want that business, is to insist on itself and its worthy nature, and Fight Back. The system will always not-want those that help the small. The system would rather the small kill themelves. No. We have to stand up and say no.

I’ve been watching the show all to this pt and I have to ask, what the hell happened to HHM to cause it to be like this?

I always felt that Jimmy was really talking to himself at the end here

Immediately After Saul said "There you go, Use that!" both Saul and Howard knew Saul was right.

What's interesting is this is actually Jimmy's way of being nice to people. Any time someone he doesn't actively hate starts to spiral, he decides to instead make himself out to be the bad guy so they attack him instead of themself. Jimmy is, for the most part, willing to let people think he's an asshole if it means that nobody else gets hurt. And that just makes Chuck taking advantage of Jimmy's kindness all the more heartbreaking.

“You’re a shitty lawyer Howard, but you’re a great businessman, so go out and sell” The perfect summarization of Howard Hamlin

Probably the last time Jimmy was ever genuinely nice to Howard.

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"you're a shitty lawyer, but a great salesman" is so Chuck. and him advising Howard to use his anger and frustration is genuine advice from Jimmy's perspective.

It finally occurs to me that Howard is very close to faultless. He really tried to run a firm the right way and promote growth from within. That’s Jimmy’s coup de grace, you forget that he’s manhandling everyone, friend or foe.

Seeing how it all ended, Howard should have made Jimmy a partner right here right now.

Even though Jimmy is goading Howard, it actually does sound like he's really encouraging him.

There's something outside all the components. More than the sum of its parts kinda thing. More than the writing, acting, pacing, camera work, lighting, production design. More than all of it. I just keep watching scenes from this show even though in so many ways a scene like this would be mundane, possibly even boring in any other context.

jimmy tried to be humble and friendly but hamlin threated him like a jerk.

I feel like people completely misunderstand this scene. This is not Jimmy trying to help Howard through some motivational reverse-psychology bullcrap. Jimmy hates Howard. Jimmy responded to Howard offering him a job by destroying his car for absolutely *no reason.* "You've gotta fight." What does he think Howard is doing, grinding his way through stacks of paperwork every day? He's doing everything he can to save the company, and unlike Jimmy, he's doing it the proper way without turning to crime or fucking someone else over. This is Jimmy kicking Howard while he's down, thinly veiled as some masculine pseudoinspirational nonsense. And Jimmy is doing it only to make himself feel better. I see absolutely no reason to sympathize with Jimmy after season 4. He's the worst, and he's dragging Kim down with him.

I didn't really get this, Jimmy hates Howard and by this point he was well beyond caring what happened to HHM. is he actually genuinely trying to give a pep talk to Howard or is he just rubbing it in that Howard's life is falling apart? also these crippling financial problems HHM is facing, they don't come into play anymore in the series, by the next season HHM is back to normal with no explanation given. what was the point of introducing this plot point?

LMFAOOOOO THAT INSULT WAS THE ONLY TIME HOWARD DIDN'T SOUND LIKE A ROBOT 😂😂😂😂😂