Out of the Abyss - Ep 41 - Zuggt'moy
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@Andyyybeeeee
@Andyyybeeeee 20 күн бұрын
Bows to tink "ooooo i do like that" 😆😆
@Andyyybeeeee
@Andyyybeeeee 26 күн бұрын
Welcome Danny :)
@Andyyybeeeee
@Andyyybeeeee 26 күн бұрын
Where has Nick and steve got too, miss them, i assume just Real life stuffs but just wanted to let them know they were missed :) also welcome Dan :) slowly making my way through the VOD
@DragonD20
@DragonD20 Ай бұрын
Sasha Vykos vibes!
@khornetto
@khornetto Ай бұрын
I feel the 'Aging DM' could have benefitted from a session zero and a set of questions and boundaries. Aging in D&D is a rare thing to see and its not something that crosses many player's minds when they agree to rp, they can be quite okay with damage and potential death etc but changing the concept of your char can (and does) suck, similarly to why things like alignment change or stuff like that arent specially fun; we had a player who also nearly drops / gets rid of his character because he rolled poorly on an aging roll on his young cheerful dragonborn who then found himself becoming elderly in age. The DM was thankfully quick in providing a hook for a cleric that could get rid of the issue... But yeah gotta be careful choosing monsters that can alter a character in was that may be worse than being reduced to 0hp or even killed.
@mattbw-G5MAT
@mattbw-G5MAT Ай бұрын
I’ve never considered horrifying visage for session zero until now, food for thought.
@bonusactionheroes
@bonusactionheroes Ай бұрын
Very true I’d never considered specific spells and rules could cause upset before this. It’s why it’s important to talk to each other. I wouldn’t change a characters stats but maybe it’s because I can’t visualise very well I never considered the aesthetics of a character changing. I had a character horribly scarred in a game by the gm without any rolls and I was fine with it. I now realise others may feel very different.
@rpgfamiliar
@rpgfamiliar Ай бұрын
Ooooo I love this topic. I feel like it comes up a lot in long running games too
@bonusactionheroes
@bonusactionheroes Ай бұрын
I’m still learning and this opened my eyes to something I’d not considered. I must admit after a week of thinking I have so many more thoughts.
@Operative34
@Operative34 Ай бұрын
Would love to see this continue. Good information
@bonusactionheroes
@bonusactionheroes Ай бұрын
We will make more if folks find it useful.
@carsonshields4205
@carsonshields4205 Ай бұрын
I'm specifically interested in how you managed the early travel.
@bonusactionheroes
@bonusactionheroes 2 ай бұрын
02:23:00 the fight ends 02:24:57 the aftermath, let's get out 02:24 Arabella learns the truth of their curse and Olavs lie 02:32:00 we can't just leave this place as it is 02:39:00 Olav and Alysandyr head to Valaki 0301:08 Alysandyr enters the mists 03:08:47 Olav's end 03:15:13 Cedric's end
@Nore2k5
@Nore2k5 2 ай бұрын
Love the stream! What Foundry modules do you use? Can you post the module list? Thank you
@bonusactionheroes
@bonusactionheroes Ай бұрын
I’ll get a list or maybe make a video. They’ve changed a little since v12
@Kartorian
@Kartorian 2 ай бұрын
TPK. TPK. TPK!
@bonusactionheroes
@bonusactionheroes 2 ай бұрын
0:00 Entering Rockblight 2:20 the password is "something is killing me please let me through" 06:00 What if we meet a Medusa? Volunteers to scout? 12:52 Haunted street of Rockblight 16:50 Turning the corner, a spirit in the dark. 17:38 Run they are coming!!!! 23:13 There appears to be a ghost in the bathtub! 24:49 Hurt me daddy... 25:44 Initiative, combat begins 45:00 OMG thats 3 people unconscious so far... Are we gonna TPK? 54:00 Ohhhh youre joking?! 55:30 One Final Breath... 01:00:10 Another one bites the dust... 01:22:15 Get her out! 01:28:00 Seeking out the life force of the living... 01:36:00 Back to Blingdenstone. 01:15:21 We have to get out of here!!! 02:00:00 Saying farewell to a friend...
@erykpryor7436
@erykpryor7436 2 ай бұрын
Part 2
@bonusactionheroes
@bonusactionheroes Ай бұрын
Thanks for watching. Part 2 is available unedited but I am working on edited versions.
@bonusactionheroes
@bonusactionheroes 3 ай бұрын
5:45 stream starts
@mattbw-G5MAT
@mattbw-G5MAT 3 ай бұрын
❤❤❤ this had weight ❤❤❤
@Andyyybeeeee
@Andyyybeeeee 3 ай бұрын
ooooo what happened in the first bit Matt we went from artificers place in previous episode to being out buying slaves ? XD
@bonusactionheroes
@bonusactionheroes 3 ай бұрын
Technical sound issues sadly so it has no voices. Cut out the dead air. Sorry about that :(
@Andyyybeeeee
@Andyyybeeeee 3 ай бұрын
No no absolutely fine, i think you guys keeping in the dicey conflict issues like slavery, removing them and pretending they dont exist i think is worse, i do also do unserstand its delicate water. Hazel was spot on with her comment on it still having representation. Good little conversation at the end guys ❤​@bonusactionheroes
@bonusactionheroes
@bonusactionheroes 3 ай бұрын
@Andyyybeeeee I trust my players to treat it with respect and I don't want to remove all conflict. Moral choices let the heroes be heroes after all but care is needed.
@Andyyybeeeee
@Andyyybeeeee 3 ай бұрын
@bonusactionheroes absolutely I'm the same with mine, OOTA touches on alot of darker and moral issues thay affect the world past present and regrettably the future too, plus being British evans sometimes other nations mistake our tone and humour so having that end of game conversation was totally the move. I didn't need to have that ironed out, your party is similar to mine. But I respect other viewers may need that understanding 🙌❤️
@bonusactionheroes
@bonusactionheroes 3 ай бұрын
We had a lot of debate behind the scenes about themes, I was worried but we decided to keep it. Having a good group is a gift isn't it.
@mattbw-G5MAT
@mattbw-G5MAT 3 ай бұрын
Action economy wise attacking someone not on the ground is more efficient I guess to take out active damage dealers. Attacking downed ones does stop them being healed. Well actually revivify is an action isnt it?
@DragonD20
@DragonD20 3 ай бұрын
Soooooo glad this is back, although watching V's Strahd campaign has kept me sane in the meantime ❤
@bonusactionheroes
@bonusactionheroes 3 ай бұрын
Welcome back, good to see you again.
@bonusactionheroes
@bonusactionheroes 3 ай бұрын
1.25 or faster recommended, it's how I watch RPG channels lol
@MethodDM
@MethodDM 4 ай бұрын
I think we will see more of this kind of player with the popularity of Baldurs Gate 3 but I am sure they will learn with time and embrace a more complex world than a computer game can create.
@Andyyybeeeee
@Andyyybeeeee 4 ай бұрын
Love this video, cheers guys i was one of those GM's, i picked it up because i wanted to run a darker adventure and it was my first. I can honestly say its not been bad but it is hard, especailly all the NPCs as you said alongside being in Gracklestugh.... I have picked Matts brains and have been very helpful. Good thing i can say about this being my first adventure to run is that it has thrown me in the deep end very hard so it can only get easier, i do get exposure so so much taxing GM work but hey hard as it is i really do love it :)
@bonusactionheroes
@bonusactionheroes 4 ай бұрын
It was the same experience for me, it’s a hard book to run but a rewarding one for sure. Veronica edited and cut down over two hours of me waffling to make this edit so thanks V. More to come, hopefully of use for future GMs as a starting point. We really appreciate your support and love to hear about your game!
@Madman2429
@Madman2429 4 ай бұрын
I think the issue at hand is that each class needs their niche, and has to lag behind in things outside their niche. 'fighting' is at least 50-70% of most TTRPGs, so you either end up with a fighter that is supreme, or a class that has no niche. Giving a fighter a magic sword is only a band-aid. The way to solve this is to distill what a 'fighter' is supposed to be, and then lean into that. For example, if the idea of fighter is 'frontline shield wall' how about baking a feature or fighter feat into drawing a hit to themselves. Or maybe giving them what would basically be a once a day legendary resistance with the cost of taking a level of exhaustion. This would give them things they can do to emphasize or rescue other party members during the enemy turn, providing a spotlight.
@bonusactionheroes
@bonusactionheroes 4 ай бұрын
Love this thinking, and that’s the kind of idea that can enhance a fighters purpose and thus their satisfaction in the class.
@TheAzCorner
@TheAzCorner 4 ай бұрын
How do you make a better fighter in dnd? Sadly, the best option is to dress up a spellcaster as one Or play a game that wasn't made by wizards.
@bonusactionheroes
@bonusactionheroes 4 ай бұрын
It’s such a shame, many want to be that fighter but I do feel, they get short changed in 5e. In 3.5 they had much more depth.
@chrism6315
@chrism6315 4 ай бұрын
I dont think you answered the question posed. The question was them feeling inadequate, not bored. Someone being bored playing a fighter will mostly be down to the player (exceptions always apply), but being inadequate is about the dm and the game. A level 5 fighter can cast fireball twice a day, if the foghter feels inadequate I'd bet a small fortune the dm isn't properly draining resources. In combat, over an adventuring day, fighters absolutly pull their weight. When casters can drop all their biggest hits in one, or two combats the martials get embarrassed.
@bonusactionheroes
@bonusactionheroes 4 ай бұрын
I've personally never felt inadequate as a fighter but I did get bored of the same turns over and over. Battle field positioning is the main challenge but again if the DM isn't creating interesting situations they don't get to play their role fully. I agree with you the resource drain is the key and as we talked about it you aren't draining resources then you're disabling a fighter who benefits from short rests.
@MemphiStig
@MemphiStig 4 ай бұрын
Alternately, you could place the treasures under a coniferous tree, and put little tags on them saying "To: Fighter From: DM" so there's no more confusion (and lots of anticipation the night before). Of course, clearly there should always be communication about these things at the table, and I would encourage players to talk before they just go grabbing things.
@bonusactionheroes
@bonusactionheroes 4 ай бұрын
Haha 😂 that made me genuinely lol! It's probably a good discussion for session zero to agree to always discuss any loot and agree where it goes.
@SusCalvin
@SusCalvin 4 ай бұрын
No one gets to find stuff made for them. Sometimes the random item will be a sword, shotgun, scroll or bike that happens to be there. It is not necessarily imnediately useful. If you find a magic shotgun you can probably all use it.
@SusCalvin
@SusCalvin 4 ай бұрын
You can make a group of only MUs and roll into dungeons as the robe AC squad. Maybe hire some goons. I'm not going to stop that. You are never isolated individuals competing for some sort of spotlight time or perks. You are one collective. If you have an idea about anything you talk about it. If I think up a plan that includes the resources of another PC we are facing the world together. Even if my PC does not have the resource we've all worked towards it. There is a daily chance to encounters. Maybe 1 in 6. If they drive around a swamp they can meet a hippo or something.
@bonusactionheroes
@bonusactionheroes 4 ай бұрын
Great points Karl, it's a collaboration and finding a group with the same approach will make games singZ
@mattbw-G5MAT
@mattbw-G5MAT 4 ай бұрын
Rune knight is a lot of fun and worth a go.
@mattbw-G5MAT
@mattbw-G5MAT 5 ай бұрын
lol I’ve played with players whose characters like that, if your creation doesn’t want to engage with adventures, you’ve failed before you’ve started.
@Andyyybeeeee
@Andyyybeeeee 5 ай бұрын
Matt "you don't trust me do you😂!" Literally the underdark stuff has left my party so on edge but oh my god when my bupiddo got 3 of the NPCs they were interrogating everyone 😂
@Andyyybeeeee
@Andyyybeeeee 5 ай бұрын
@bonusactionheroes when they went to the catacombs with the gnolls they left Shuushar who won't defend himself, a terrified fargas who took the send hit and the initial Jimjar who was knocked unconscious and kidnapped 😄 my party have reach gracklestugh and have him om the brain now 😅
@CampervanCookout
@CampervanCookout 5 ай бұрын
Matts nail biting started at the moment the head came off… this was dramatic 😂❤
@romizzi
@romizzi 5 ай бұрын
Big fan of music in games too - but it has to be on low so it doesn't distract me from the other players, etc.
@mattbw-G5MAT
@mattbw-G5MAT 5 ай бұрын
This is new ❤🎉 , I love music in my games but had not considered not everyone does
@mattbw-G5MAT
@mattbw-G5MAT 5 ай бұрын
I love all bonus action heroes videos
@mattbw-G5MAT
@mattbw-G5MAT 5 ай бұрын
Omg that's one hell of a way to go 😮😂
@CampervanCookout
@CampervanCookout 5 ай бұрын
Dnd players struggling with social cues and distracted players, isn’t that most groups? 😊
@DragonD20
@DragonD20 5 ай бұрын
New to this campaign...who is the green gobliny person in the room at the Inn?
@DragonD20
@DragonD20 5 ай бұрын
Have binge watched this campaign and love it...hope there will be further arcs!
@bonusactionheroes
@bonusactionheroes 5 ай бұрын
Thank you, there will definitely be more very soon :)
@DragonD20
@DragonD20 5 ай бұрын
That makes me happy 😁
@bonusactionheroes
@bonusactionheroes 5 ай бұрын
We are just playing a short vampire game and I think we should start OOTA again before the end of March. :)
@mattbw-G5MAT
@mattbw-G5MAT 6 ай бұрын
This was a beautiful episode x
@mattbw-G5MAT
@mattbw-G5MAT Ай бұрын
It needs more views I watched it again
@mattbw-G5MAT
@mattbw-G5MAT Ай бұрын
69 views though…
@Andyyybeeeee
@Andyyybeeeee 6 ай бұрын
OKAY! is the black orb home brew ? if so where did you get it and please good god tell me where to find the crazy slashing doll stats ! also DAPHNE!!!!
@bonusactionheroes
@bonusactionheroes 5 ай бұрын
The doll is a Haunted Doll which I think is CR 2 and from Van Richten's I have modded it slightly so that it is a curse that summons the creature.. The key was once picked up it would act as a curse. Reappearing each day after being killed and able to teleport knives to itself to start its rampage. They had that thing in a box for so many sessions before they finally dealt with it haha. I can happily share the stats via google drive. Daphne was an interesting homebrew class called Prism by the same chap who did the Pugilist (excellent class worth a play), we did find Prism was a bit unbalanced and a little OP after a few levels. Nik and I agreed a way for Daphne to bow out as a creature of light. The orb was home brew and is the heart of a dead star and has some very specific abilities (i will have to check my notes). The group do still have it I believe in case they need her
@bonusactionheroes
@bonusactionheroes 5 ай бұрын
@Andyyybeeeee The Gray Ghost was a haunted ship wreck, haunted by a banshee in an episode prior to the kraken corpse. The doll showed as magical when detect magic was cast. With the demonic incursion of OOTA the doll of the banshee's lost child was also cursed. It would be activated by picking it up simple as, upon picking up it binds to that person and will reappear near them each day. If they throw it away it will reappear, if they destroy it, it will reappear. They had to destroy it and remove curse to get rid of it permanently. You can make that as difficult or as easy as you like, i pondered them needing to return the wreck but in the end decided it was better to move them forward rather than back. The orb can also be a hook to go in a Spelljammer direction if ever we want ;)
@David-qq3do
@David-qq3do 6 ай бұрын
Matt, where did you get the map of the "Faerzress cave" shown on your stream? I'm trying to find something similar as my party is around this stage as well. Thanks!
@bonusactionheroes
@bonusactionheroes 5 ай бұрын
Hi there, sorry I think that was AI art that I modified,. Is it the one that was a landing page? I can share that in our google drive if you want it.
@bonusactionheroes
@bonusactionheroes 5 ай бұрын
Hi David, take a look here for the page we used. es-rage-of-demons.obsidianportal.com/wikis/whorlstone-tunnels
@bonusactionheroes
@bonusactionheroes 6 ай бұрын
0:50 Recap 5:15 Session start - entering Vallaki 25:00 PC descriptions 49:08 New NPC Darzin is introduced to party
@bonusactionheroes
@bonusactionheroes 6 ай бұрын
0:40 Intro 1:32 Recap 8:00 Session start/Night hag combat 13:30 Absence tries to flee with child 16:05 Absence is polymorphed into a lizard 39:30 Cedric unconscious 45:25 Cedric rolls a natural 1 - 2 failed death saves 48:40 Milton heals Cedric 50:00 Cedric unconscious again 53:45 Cedric rolls a natural 20 - conscious again 1:00:00 DM realises Polymorph is a concentration spell, Absence is no longer a lizard and flees 1:08:38 Cedric unconscious once again and poisoned 1:13:10 Cedric fails a death saving throw 1:14:10 Autocrit on Cedric - he is finally Deadric. 1:16:20 Milton and Absence reunite 1:21:22 Break 1:32:20 Session re-start/Alysandir & Ireena awake at Blue Water Inn 1:42:40 Meeting Baron Vallakovich 2:10:30 Party reunited 2:48 New PC introduction: Darzin
@Andyyybeeeee
@Andyyybeeeee 7 ай бұрын
that doll gave me some serious Chucky vibes XD
@unodos2647
@unodos2647 8 ай бұрын
im 5 months late but this is dope! thanks for the inspo
@bah_veronica
@bah_veronica 9 ай бұрын
20:30 Intro - Shut up, Tom! 22:08 Recap 24:26 Game Start - Should we help the myconids? 34:40 Telling Sovereign Basidia about The Garden of Welcome 47:43 Sovereign Basidia's treasure 56:43 Planning to attack the spore servants 1:20:00 Combat 1:49:32 Combat ends 1:56:00 The Lady of Decay 2:00:45 Combat 2:09:22 Long-term madness roll 2:14:00 Indefinite madness roll 3:15:43 Combat ends 3:19:05 Post-game chat with chat!
@bonusactionheroes
@bonusactionheroes 10 ай бұрын
0:00 Intro to campaign 3:00 PC descriptions 8:35 Not alone in the cell: brief overview of NPCs 11:30 Tink: Who is the biggest in here? Derendil… 21:05 Jimjar: I bet you 10 gold! 25:00 Eldeth: Where do we go if we can escape? 34:40 What resources do we have? 38:00 How do we escape? 38:50 Sevatar: Moth thing… / Tink: I am not a moth! 40:10 Sarith, the Drow grump 😂 41:30 Sarith: I know there are 3 exits... 46:00 Stool, the Myconid sprout <3 48:15 Topsy and Turvy: Deep Gnomes join the mind meld 53:20 Sarith: Prison layout 59:30 Jorlan: Keep it down! 1:13:00 Drow politics and feeding time 1:16:30 Shuushar: Free your mind! / Sev: I’d rather free my body…you’re a peace artist. 1:25:00 break the chain? 1:26:00 Orc vs Fairy vs Quaggoth 1:33:00 It is I, Buppido! 1:45:45 Bedtime 1:55:45 Combat! 2:18:10 Killing blow, let’s go! 2:19:00 The aftermath: a shared dream? 2:27:20 Chores 2:28:00 RIP Ront 2:30:18 Mucking out the quaggoths 2:31:35 Polishing Ilvara's boots 2:37:00 Scavening in quaggoth pen 2:42:08 News for Ilvara 2:45:42 Scavenging in Ilvara's Quarters 2:49:36 Kitchen duty
@jnthnhrrsn
@jnthnhrrsn 10 ай бұрын
I’m almost caught up! You know I’m going to ask. Where’d you get that map of the darklake??
@bonusactionheroes
@bonusactionheroes 10 ай бұрын
That would be here although i photoshopped out the names for use with players :) www.reddit.com/r/dndmaps/s/kQQH9mwZAd
@bonusactionheroes
@bonusactionheroes 10 ай бұрын
I’ve added the textless version to our drive :)
@jnthnhrrsn
@jnthnhrrsn 10 ай бұрын
@@bonusactionheroes that's awesome thank you!
@jnthnhrrsn
@jnthnhrrsn 10 ай бұрын
@@bonusactionheroes I'm not seeing the textless version in your drive yet, but maybe I don't have visibility to everything there
@bonusactionheroes
@bonusactionheroes 10 ай бұрын
Try this drive.google.com/file/d/1QrkxaSW8rvAtgC1dXIm5VKNldG_fjT9N/view?usp=drivesdk
@jnthnhrrsn
@jnthnhrrsn 10 ай бұрын
So did you combine the Lost Tomb and the Oozing Temple then?? Where did you get that particular map?
@bonusactionheroes
@bonusactionheroes 10 ай бұрын
I did combine them as the tomb felt a bit small on its own to me. Will depend on your party though and I did boost the undead encounters in the tomb.
@bonusactionheroes
@bonusactionheroes 10 ай бұрын
Try this link drive.google.com/drive/folders/1jhHbnRN70nkwjkFaecIPPXe2Ih4Zjl1S
@jnthnhrrsn
@jnthnhrrsn 10 ай бұрын
Oh thank you! Lots of good stuff in here 😄
@jnthnhrrsn
@jnthnhrrsn 10 ай бұрын
I like that idea. Breaking things up with dungeons is a great change of pace, and I agree those in the book are really short.
@bonusactionheroes
@bonusactionheroes 10 ай бұрын
I also put the sun sword into two parts as it's very strong and hence the the ruby is needed to be reunited to with the hilt. I have the society of brilliance have the ruby
@jnthnhrrsn
@jnthnhrrsn 10 ай бұрын
I enjoyed the music from this episode. It felt very Whorlstone Tunnelish 😄 Do you remember what you used? Especially at 28:00 or 35:30?
@bonusactionheroes
@bonusactionheroes 10 ай бұрын
Most of the music is epidemic music and I have playlists organised by mood now. I'll take a look and let you know :)
@jnthnhrrsn
@jnthnhrrsn 10 ай бұрын
Haha I know all those comedians bc we watch Taskmaster and used to watch 8 Out of Ten Cats Does Countdown 🤣
@bonusactionheroes
@bonusactionheroes 10 ай бұрын
Veronica is a massive fan of Taskmaster ! We've played the game too that was fun!