To hell with you Thrall, you betray us all. bring back Sha Touched Garrosh to fight off the Corrupt Thoradin the 16th. Bring us alternate timeline Light Forged Garrosh to fight off Invalidus, Harddrivefalius, and Defragementus. And when the two Garroshes meet and fuse under the potarra earrings, the whore Azeroth will awaken to a true warrior and his vitamin D
@melb716014 күн бұрын
Thrall never had the makings of a varsity warchief.
@coluccifresh25 күн бұрын
Thrall cheated and should be executed
@Zieg_Games25 күн бұрын
Garrosh did nothing wrong
@Iollipop87Ай бұрын
Thrall did him dirty here, magic is forbidden in a Mak'gora
@justhereforstolenmemes5391Ай бұрын
This goes hand and hand with an unpopular opinion I have. Thrall is responsible for everything that happened. He had a duty to lead the Horde and he abandoned that duty and left the worst person he possibly could in charge (Garrosh actually tells Thrall this HIMSELF). Garrosh was always a hothead and a warrior and was never fit to lead. Thrall just didn’t want to take the responsibility on himself and chose to push it off on someone else and that someone is Garrosh, and you really feel it in this interaction. The cards are laid bare, Garrosh didn’t want this responsibility he was just stuck with it while Thrall ran off and never checked in. Thrall abandoned him. Then even after watching all of Garrosh’s failings as a leader Thrall’s bum behavior shines through again as he continues to allow Garrosh to lead and never steps in while Garrosh continues to commit atrocities. He watched the Bombing of Theramore, he watched Garrosh start a war with the Alliance, he stood by while Garrosh mistreated the Pandarians, he watched as Garrosh tried to have Voljin killed, and that’s just a short list. Thrall never even steps in until he’s forced too by the whole world coming down on Garrosh and laying Siege to Orgrimmar. Thralls bum ass behavior only persists as instead of taking over leadership of the Horde after the colossal fuck up that was the last guy he left in charge, he chooses TO LEAVE ANOTHER GUY IN CHARGE WHILE HE RUNS OFF AGAIN. Then after the most elaborate shit ever FINALLY this man finishes the job and kills Garrosh.
@cbp117Ай бұрын
Both qre right in this battle. Garrosh is right in the way he felt betrayed and and his mentor left him when he needed him the most. And thrall is at fault for beliving that a brute warrior would take the right path for the horde.. he should have known garrosh was not even close prepared mentally... we can see it here in his scream cracking up..
@FallenCorpАй бұрын
If Saurfang gained the Title when Garrosh refused Thrall, Saurfangs further Advice would of made Garrosh an unstoppable Warchief. He Called out Sylvanas years prior to her "Reveal" (Cata xpac). The advanced war machines...mana bombs...The legion at the broken shore would have never broken through if Garrosh's Horde Succeeded. Even the Iron Horde would of succeeded against the Broken Shore's onslaught. So much potential....A Massive shame we never saw the full growth of what once was a wild hotheaded northrend Garrosh and a once wild Varian to have united as one at the Broken Shore to cut Gul'dan in half. The Honor and Leadership for his Race and for those wishing to support the Horde, Attempted to prevent the starvation of their families and homes in the Desert of Durotar's. (ask what you would of done) Misunderstood greatly. He cannot be expected to lead as a King or Advisor / Diplomat...He is from a warlike race lead by Warchiefs... and will be the last True Untainted Outland Born Warchief of the Horde.
@mikecat60593 ай бұрын
Movie rules for the mak gora are different from the lore, unless terms are set there are no rules to a mak gora. Now if you actually play the game, the elements seem to agree with people that he cheated by making thrall weaker in legion xpac getting the player's hand on the doom hammer but i think thats just a mcguffin
@alejomaster40353 ай бұрын
no, the mak gora is a confrontation in which the participants must only use physical force, that is the primary rule when you are an orc... what happened with thrall is that whether he cheated or not, he was not going to let garrosh escape that duel alive, Garrosh had already caused too much damage and Thrall knew that this was his responsibility since he was the one who made him a warchief, but he did not know that Garrosh would become a monster, but using his powers of shaman in the mak gora did not come without consequences because from that moment his connection with the elemental energies that gave him his powers was broken and disappearing little by little, it was later in the story that he managed to recover part of his powers.
@mikecat60593 ай бұрын
wowpedia for exact info @@alejomaster4035
@DominionSorcerer2 ай бұрын
The elements didn't leave Thrall because "he was cheating" or anything like that, the elements left Thrall because Thrall himself felt unworthy of wielding them after this event. Not because he cheated, but because Garrosh was right - Thrall turned Garrosh into what he is, from a certain point of view, by appointing him Warchief and shouldering him with the responsibility of living up to the legacy of his father who was as close to a Messiah as the orcs had despite being the first to damn them.
@alejomaster40352 ай бұрын
@@DominionSorcerer read the lore again the elements did leave Thrall for a moment for what he did in the makgora against garrosh
@DominionSorcerer2 ай бұрын
@@alejomaster4035 yes, but it was because Thrall himself felt unworthy of them for what he did. The elements didn't care.
@J.O.H.N-The-Second3 ай бұрын
Massive cred to Patrick Seitz for his voicing of Garrosh, you can feel everything from the determination to the ire to the sorrow. I really wonder what it was like in the recording booth that day.
@semmer654 ай бұрын
The best warchief the Horde ever saw, R.I.P Garrosh.
@alejomaster40353 ай бұрын
Nop
@blocasaurus_rex4 ай бұрын
thralls the worssssssssssssssssssssst
@Wully_wullyer4 ай бұрын
In game thrall kinda skinny but in movie bro is big and bug muscle 💀
@mccoy79productions664 ай бұрын
nice sharing
@DragonFlame10904 ай бұрын
How did we go from this thrall to “Too much blade not enough shaft!” In shadowlands.
@SteamKinkage6176384 ай бұрын
Thrall is no better than Gul'dan. Cheating in a Mok'Gora is the ultimate coward move.
@yokoyosi30844 ай бұрын
Idk if this was Mak Gora, but if yes, thrall definitely act like Guldan or Sylvanas :D ....
@tengen1215 ай бұрын
Just now realizing this scene is basically a direct parallel between shifu vs tai lung
@user-jr3zm1jb5s5 ай бұрын
Garrosh could have taken advantage of his brothers weaknes and weak nature... Thrall knew he would not win in a grunt battle... there is ZERO win here IMO
@pharossymphony5 ай бұрын
Zaddy Thrall ftw
@EpicBlastrzzzz5 ай бұрын
Cheater.
@alexandrevigneault21556 ай бұрын
Simon vs Alex. Alex wins he cheat by breaking the fourth wall!!! Poor Simon he is a loser😂
@OneLastScholar7 ай бұрын
Hate the illogical inconsistency of Flotsam having an anti-Kaedweni Temerian at the helm, but Kaedwen just waltzing through it to conquer Temeria all the same.
@IH8KWEERZ80707 ай бұрын
Thrall is a pussy
@-bdl26967 ай бұрын
Lorewise, it was stupid for Thrall to give the mantle to Garrosh and it never made sense to me. Cairne Bloodhoof was the obvious choice, but for some reason in the novels Thrall felt it had to be an Orc, and still he felt Saurfang or Eitrigg were too seasoned? Always felt like a forced plot just to get us some old school Alliance vs Horse action, because Thrall had been far too diplomatic and level-headed for that clash to take place.
@crix7866 ай бұрын
Even garrosh tried to convince him it was a bad idea lol, I guess it’s because the legacy of his name hellscream
@alejomaster40353 ай бұрын
you have to read a little more about the lore of world of warcraft guys
@truepickle49567 ай бұрын
To think we went from such great ingame cinematics to that shitty ones we got in Dragonflight. Really sad.
@KeyToWite7 ай бұрын
Garrosh: *Explains why he did the things he did.* Thrall: NU UH *Cheats in Mak'Gora*
@eltonazevedo13618 ай бұрын
thrall left garrosh at teen age years with a big responsibility. garrosh didnt ask to be warchief it was the horde who ask for him after the victorys he had in northrend! he conquered half of northrend!
@eggchin22x788 ай бұрын
Garrosh did nothing wrong.
@alejomaster40353 ай бұрын
Yes he did
@eggchin22x783 ай бұрын
@@alejomaster4035 elaborate.
@PixieVexx8 ай бұрын
Thrall cheated
@monkeybuizznes18 ай бұрын
I come back to clean my eyes after the recent madness. Oh WoD. Forever my favorite and could’ve been so good
@MrMatthaha8 ай бұрын
Bahaha my thoughts exactly
@vandacrewsailing8 ай бұрын
Thrall cheated
@someonex59988 ай бұрын
Thrall cheats
@Cebreuss9 ай бұрын
Thrall was supposed to be the father figure to Garosh after Grom sacrificed himself in the name of the Horde. Thrall abandoned his son...
@Alex-ii2zt9 ай бұрын
Even this worthless game is better than that trash called Shartfield
@bindair_dundat10 ай бұрын
The new WoW devs when Metzen returns.
@Brunghis10 ай бұрын
garrosh did absolutely nothing wrong
@knightgabriel131110 ай бұрын
Something that bothers me is that Thrall was actually kinda winning in the physical fight at first, then he just had to do that classic trope of just staring at someone/something falling on them and doing jack shit to avoid it. MOVE 1 STEP TO THE FUCKING RIGHT FOR CHRIST'S SAKE
@Gnolls...10 ай бұрын
Thrall a bitch for that one
@SuperLuigiFan2210 ай бұрын
1:24 that line lives rent free in my head
@angelf54210 ай бұрын
Garrosh did nothing wrong. Justice for Garrosh!
@shadowdamien646011 ай бұрын
Thrall is such a coward in this fight. Mak'gora is meant to be a fight with no powers, just pure strength. A fight with honor, with no outside help. And Thralls bitch ass cheated. Like Garosh or not, Thrall cheated in this fight and should have died here. He is an honorless coward. Fuck Thrall.
@alejomaster40353 ай бұрын
no bro, even if thrall lost the mak gora he was never going to let garrosh leave alive he had already done too much damage, he was going to kill garrosh in that fight no matter what since it was his responsibility and his alone... thrall did the right thing.
@DrewPicklesTheDark11 ай бұрын
Garrosh was right.
@GylleneGott Жыл бұрын
"I do not rely on Strength alone Garrosh... I cheat in Mak'Goras"
@darthvader11667 ай бұрын
He didn't. This whole "no magic in a Mak'Gora" thing is a movie-only thing.
@GylleneGott7 ай бұрын
@darthvader1166 You're allowed pants, bracers and ONE weapon. Thrall had full body armor and used at least two weapons (doomhammer and elemental magic) you could theoretically argue each element is its own weapon in which case he used more than one weapon. No matter which way you cut it Thrall is a dirty cheater.
@darthvader11667 ай бұрын
@@GylleneGott The whole thing about pants bracers and one weapon is not a universal rule. It's the "old ways", but those are not strictly adhered to since many years. The only consistent rules shown in every Mak'gora were: 1) A weapon may not be picked up again once dropped 2) Fight is until death or, rarely, submission. All other rules are custom rules that were agreed upon by both contestants beforehand.
@ThundacokSoulPuncher5 ай бұрын
Cope 😂
@MiosPanties Жыл бұрын
Thrall in WoD: “You chose your own destiny.” Thrall in Shadowblands: “It’s my fault Garrosh turned evil.”
@DrewPicklesTheDark10 ай бұрын
He merely realized the truth after the dust had settled.
@PendlayRoe8 ай бұрын
Meanwhile Garrosh basically says he did nothing wrong even after being tortured in Torghast for years.
@AnnaJo2000 Жыл бұрын
"Everything i did was for the Horde!!!" Really? Really?! Arent you the same guy who went to war with the Horde? Come on now...😖
@isaacfaith93699 ай бұрын
Garrosh served the First Horde.
@alredir24 күн бұрын
"They are no longer part of MY HORDE!"
@MrGrimm-eo5lc Жыл бұрын
Alternative ending: Garrosh: "wakes up groaning in pain" ???: Hey you, you're finally awake! You tried to cross the border, right? Walked right in to that imperial ambush.
@JohnDoe-bo5yk Жыл бұрын
Didnt thrall cheat here? Like, bad garrosh, sure but... mother fucker cheated in a makgora
@nicolasritzke104211 ай бұрын
A Mak'gora is a fight to the death or first blood. That is the only rule, unless the combatants agree to more rules.
@vulcanmemes977011 ай бұрын
@@nicolasritzke1042 makogras forbid using magic or poison thrall literally cheated.
@nicolasritzke104211 ай бұрын
@@vulcanmemes9770 Nope he didn't. He even used magic in their first Mak'gora and nobody cared. Only in the movie they say that Guldan cheated. But never in game.
@bjuganda775810 ай бұрын
Honestly, it felt more like a personal fight thus the use of shaman magic
@isaacfaith93699 ай бұрын
@@nicolasritzke1042if magic and spells are allowed all other rules are pointless. It’s a technicality left over from when Orcs didn’t use spells. It’s 100% cheating.
@HandfulofComments Жыл бұрын
Sad to say, I kinda side Garrosh, thrall should have stayed warchief or at least pick someone better then a war hero