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@AlexLococo
@AlexLococo 4 күн бұрын
T-taking your hand? But we're not even married...!!!
@CorrectingIdiots
@CorrectingIdiots 13 күн бұрын
Ok so lore supports this somewhat as does the quest. When fia sleeps with a dead or "dying" demigod she births a new god, she straight up says this, some of the lore points that maybe godwyns death was a plan to birth the true prince of death.
@Banuune
@Banuune 5 күн бұрын
Hey! Sorry for the late reply! That's how I see it too! I'm convinced that Goodwyn's death was planned! (:
@JasonFord-l3p
@JasonFord-l3p Ай бұрын
He can't be that dumb, how else would he get such a sexy goat lady for a wife
@Banuune
@Banuune Ай бұрын
I meaaaan.... you have a point...
@DARS_04
@DARS_04 Ай бұрын
Is he stupid? A Thesis of Raurus intellect.
@WolfSky12634
@WolfSky12634 Ай бұрын
I love this so much, and I just have a couple of thoughts Is this to say that when Skyloft returned to earth, they make a new Hyrule since the old one was either taken to the sky, or disappeared as with auto build? Also, if Sonia if a regular Hyrulean/Shekia, how would she have a blood relation to Zelda in TOTK, especially since it’s the blood of the goddess that causes a Zelda to be the Zelda, and it seems that she wouldn’t related to SS Zelda (Loved the video)
@Banuune
@Banuune Ай бұрын
@@WolfSky12634 thank you! I'm glad you enjoyed it! <3 And yes, Zelda re-founded Hyrule after all the zonai stuff was gone Finally someone got it! XD And about Sonia, I yet have to read through totk's master works, but according to quest with Aaron Sonia is the ancestor of *all* Zeldas. I don't know how exactly, but apparently she is.
@WolfSky12634
@WolfSky12634 Ай бұрын
@@Banuune The bit about how there was two different times when SkyLoft Link and Zelda came into the story confused me, until I realised you meant the time when they were in the past vs the future, it makes a bit more sense now how, since the fact that the Zelda, Ganon and Link curse to be forever bound, was done in the past iteration, how Ganon could come to exist within the Rauru Hyrule outside of the curse, cause it isn’t, because the curse technically originated from before Link and Zelda were born, but I suppose it could be they both had the same great great ancestor, but that’d seem a bit like cop out for how Sonia sensed they were related, I love going over the Zelda timeline (I became a little obsessed with it a couple of years ago, and followed along with it since, even though I’d only played BOTW at the time, just trying to go back and play them all now 😂) I must say, before, I really subscribed to how the timelines recombined and this was based in a time that forgot all about Hyrule and Rauru’s ‘refounding’ but I like this theory a lot, now we just need to solve which timeline BOTW and TOTK is at the end of, unless we push for another merged timeline theory 🤔
@Banuune
@Banuune Ай бұрын
Yeah it was confusing to me too. And I think until they make a game explaining that, I don't think we will ever be able to definitely fit botw and totk in any timeline. It could have been all of them D:
@WolfSky12634
@WolfSky12634 Ай бұрын
@@Banuune Problem is, they will never definitively tell us where everything fits in a timeline, it’s their whole thing with leaving it up to the community (which I love) and even if they were to, we’ve seen people go against the timelines they give us in Hyrule Historia and such, so some people wouldn’t really believe them anyway 😂
@Banuune
@Banuune Ай бұрын
@@WolfSky12634 100% xD
@wardenai7650
@wardenai7650 Ай бұрын
Im so invested in all you youtubers take on the lore and how to interpet this world, its why I am so invested in Elden Ring, I love how all are connected and has meaning and an interpetation! Not many games has this type of depths in them, and this game is pure artistry and poetry, its like finding a lost civilisation and interpet how they lived in interpeting cultural things. Love your addition to the community!
@Banuune
@Banuune Ай бұрын
Thank you so much <3 I always try to see things from different angles ^^
@ineedfiles
@ineedfiles Ай бұрын
good stuff
@looly21
@looly21 Ай бұрын
this is very interesting and unique. Do we have proof that the people of Nokron and Nokstella were in the Shadow of the Erdtree area?
@Banuune
@Banuune Ай бұрын
Hey there! So I'd say yes. We find mimic and laval tears in the realm of shadow, which are connected to the nox and the numen, of which marika is said to be a part of. And as Marika's home is the shaman village, I'd say there is a connection between the eternal cities and the realm of shadow (:
@Banuune
@Banuune Ай бұрын
I currently can't remember if we can find nox there too
@kiwisocks
@kiwisocks 2 ай бұрын
CC should have never existed. Changed Zack and Aerith's relationship of "one-sided puppy crush that she got over" into some reddittor's "SHE SHOULD NEVER MOVE ON SHE BELONGS TO HIM HIM HIM HIM BECAUSE HE MADE HER A FLOWER CART AND GAVE HER A BOW (THAT HAD BEEN IN HER DESIGN FOR 10 YEARS AND DESIGNED TO CONTRAST CLOUD'S DARK TONES)" Tifa is a collection of the most cliche personality tropes, wasn't actually childhood friends with Cloud, somehow knew NOTHING about him despite living next door to him, and only came to the forefront of her mind when he made the promise the she would know someone famous and save her. She was lying to him right up until the Lifestream sequence in the OGg.
@anonne-qm7pu
@anonne-qm7pu 2 ай бұрын
Truth
@user-vc3pk8jp4j
@user-vc3pk8jp4j 2 ай бұрын
Aerith is one of the best characters in FFVII. How can anyone hate her? Seriously, what did she do wrong to you? Tifa doesn’t think that way, nor does Zack… so why do you? She and Cloud were always meant to be the original couple. It was only when they decided that Aerith would sacrifice herself that Tifa was given Aerith’s original personality. Yes, the qualities you like in Tifa were actually Aerith’s original traits. I think the writers and developers should have been more careful when creating the FFVII story. The circumstances that led to Aerith being hated could have been avoided. If things hadn’t been so complex, she wouldn’t be hated now.
@Banuune
@Banuune 2 ай бұрын
She is hated because she constantly pushes herself between others, sees herself as superior and is just annoying. From OG on we were given Zacks backstory, and that she was connected to him. Yet she chose to write him off as if he never existed. It is ok to move on. But with the guy your "best friend" likes? That is not nice. And writing off other people's experience with the relationship system , just because some people chose other options is stupid to me. So I see the Aerith/Cloud date as valid as the Tifa/Cloud date. But cloud chose to not sit next to her, yet she pushed herself onto him. But Tifa is the one he choses to kiss. Even though some did not get that date in their playtrough, does not make it any less valid. The devs knew what they were doing. And no. It is not Aerith's personality in Tifa. Even if it is later, it is not the one I chose to like Tifa. And Aerith'S personality is also something I really hate. Especially towards cloud and Tifa.
@user-vc3pk8jp4j
@user-vc3pk8jp4j 2 ай бұрын
​@@Banuune When Aerith asked Cloud if Tifa was his girlfriend, he said, "No." So, she might have thought they were just friends. I mean, Tifa never told Aerith she had feelings for Cloud since she was a kid, so how can you blame Aerith? Cloud didn’t want to sit with Aerith? Okay, since the date at the Gold Saucer happened after the Gongaga chapter, right? In Gongaga, we saw Cloud getting jealous of Zack when Aerith mentioned him. She might still like Zack, which could be one of the reasons why Cloud didn’t want to sit with her. During Tifa’s date, Cloud asked Tifa if Aerith still liked Zack. Tifa said, "It’s complicated." But why did Cloud have to ask Tifa that during his date with her, about another girl? I mean, the kiss happened after that. Tifa's personality that you like for Tifa her kindness and calm and shy nature were originally aerith's personality Here is what tatsuya Nomura said in youngjump interview recently Interviewer: -- Aerith and Tifa are what we call the double heroines, two come about? Tatsuya Nomura: I've never said this anywhere. Aerith was made first, but her personality was actually similar to Tifa's. However, I didn't want to follow the same conventional flow as before, so I decided to make it a double heroine. At that time, the personality that was put into Aerith alone split off and the character of Tifa was born. And Aerith has a destiny that she is carrying in the story, so I created her inner self to highlight that. You can read the original Japanese interview here 🔗 youngjump.jp/yj45_interview/02/index2.html Or the read the translated pdf 🔗 www.shinraarchaeology.com/resources/article_pdfs/young_jump42.pdf
@alois2193
@alois2193 2 ай бұрын
Aerith solos ur flop ass
@vengerbergs
@vengerbergs 2 ай бұрын
shes a terrible friend to tifa terrible love interest for zack the only catch on her character is being quirky shes just so overrated and the most pity indulcing character ever, even worse on rebirth she just takes cloud to all the places that were special for her and zack idk shes weird
@alois2193
@alois2193 2 ай бұрын
U like dating games lil bro ain’t no one taking ur opinion seriously
@vengerbergs
@vengerbergs 2 ай бұрын
@@alois2193 shady af comebacks
@alois2193
@alois2193 2 ай бұрын
@@vengerbergs rant to ur 2D boyfie bout how awful Aerith is x
@vengerbergs
@vengerbergs 2 ай бұрын
@@alois2193 my bf said that she is a 6/10 looks 3/10 personality thoughts?
@alois2193
@alois2193 2 ай бұрын
@@vengerbergs if the standard was you then… makes sense 🤭
@CuntyPrincess
@CuntyPrincess 2 ай бұрын
U literally hating on 1 of the 3 main characters! Ur not supposed to hate her, its okay if u dont understand the story!
@Banuune
@Banuune 2 ай бұрын
Oh I DO understand the story. I'm hating on a person that I would HATE having arround me in rl. She is a terrible friend to Tifa, trying to fuck her boy friend, she is narcissistic, annoying and such a "pick me" girl. Her character is something I hate so much and I hate that she is arround me while I play the game. She is the worst. For me. You don't have to agree. But that is my oppinion.
@anonne-qm7pu
@anonne-qm7pu 2 ай бұрын
Tifa is the pick me girl. Aerith is a girl's girl, wants to save Tifa before she even knows who she is meanwhile Tifa doesn't give a shit when Aerith gets kidnapped. Tifa is a pick me for Cloud, Cloud is all she cares and thinks about. A female character who only cares about the main male character is sexist writing, you can't change my mind.
@anonne-qm7pu
@anonne-qm7pu 2 ай бұрын
Also Cloud ain't Tifa's boyfriend. Aerith asks Cloud "Is Tifa like your girlfriend?" He straight up says "No." In OG, Tifa straight up tells Aerith "Cloud and I are childhood friends, nothing more." If you are trying to get with someone and you ask if they already have someone and they say no, and that other person tells you that they're just friends, you are at ZERO fault for hitting on them.
@ElOrquidea
@ElOrquidea 2 ай бұрын
Girl, you have time to delete this. You mentioned it multiple times, but you need help.
@Banuune
@Banuune 2 ай бұрын
Haha. No I will not delete it. I'd rather make a new one, with more information after Rebith than delete that. I stand by my opinion. And always will.
@ElOrquidea
@ElOrquidea 2 ай бұрын
@@Banuune honestly, I respect that. You do you then.
@ZombiiChix
@ZombiiChix 2 ай бұрын
Crisis core and its consequences have been a disaster for the entire ff7 fandom lol "I love Aerith as long as she is with Zack" Sweet jesus what a hot take
@Banuune
@Banuune 2 ай бұрын
The story of crisis core was established even in og. It was just retold. Zack died. Cloud thinks he is him. Aerith was with a soldier, Cloud killed sephi and all this stuff. I loved her during crisis core. But writing off Zack as he was nothing and always pushing herself between cloud and Tifa is so disrespectful, that I started hating her.
@turtleduck5118
@turtleduck5118 2 ай бұрын
i’m giggling lmfao you did just dedicate an entire video to a FICTIONAL CHARACTER you hate 😭 she lives in your head rent free
@Banuune
@Banuune 2 ай бұрын
She sadly does ): But not in a good way.
@turtleduck5118
@turtleduck5118 2 ай бұрын
@@Banuune that's hilarious. she's not even real.
@Banuune
@Banuune 2 ай бұрын
@@turtleduck5118 I know she isn't. I even said it in the video. "Fictional character" xD Doesn't change anything about it sadly. XD
@didinau
@didinau 2 ай бұрын
Honestly, it sounds like you're projecting a lot onto Aerith. She didn’t betray Tifa-she and Cloud were both dealing with their own complicated feelings. Maybe it’s time to take a step back and realize that these are fictional people, and there’s no need to hold so much anger toward them. Aerith wasn’t written to be a villain or betrayer-she’s a complex character dealing with grief. Blaming her for moving on from Zack or ‘flirting’ with Cloud sounds like you’re projecting personal frustrations, and frankly, it reeks of misogyny. You wouldn’t be this angry if it were a male character. Maybe it’s time to reflect on why you’re holding so much hate for a fictional woman and ask yourself what that says about you. Aerith literally sacrificed herself to save the world-she holds so much love for everyone, even for people like you who hate her for no real reason. She wasn’t written to hurt anyone, and your hate says more about you than it does about her. Maybe think about why you’re so angry at a fictional woman who died to protect everyone, including Tifa and Cloud.
@anonne-qm7pu
@anonne-qm7pu 2 ай бұрын
Notice how he didn't respond to this comment. It's bc ur right
@didinau
@didinau 2 ай бұрын
@@anonne-qm7pu yep 🤫
@Banuune
@Banuune 2 ай бұрын
My guy. First off: I'm a she, not he. Second, I did not reply because I do have life and I'm not waiting 24/7 for a comment to answer it. Some Comments need time to write. But I guess as an Aerith lover you don't understand basic logic. :) Sorry for you <3
@shivastars
@shivastars 2 ай бұрын
lmao malding this hard over one of the most harmless video game female characters ever. Mother aerith
@Banuune
@Banuune 2 ай бұрын
She is the worst. I hate her. After rebrith I hate her even more.
@shivastars
@shivastars 2 ай бұрын
@@Banuune You have mental issues. Stop self inserting you’re not tifa, tifa would hate you
@turtleduck5118
@turtleduck5118 2 ай бұрын
@@Banuune yes, excellent. i can't wait for you to hate her even more every time she's on screen in part 3. :)
@shivastars
@shivastars 2 ай бұрын
@@Banuune Yeah usually people with a negative IQ tend to hate aerith, nothing new
@Banuune
@Banuune 2 ай бұрын
My IQ is neither negative nor low :) I'd say if you are not able to see her wrong doings, than you are the one with low IQ, as it seems like you are only thinking with your di'** and only focusing on the fact that she is prett. She is Tifa's best friend, and was told about Tifa's feelings towards Cloud. Yet she pushes herself between them with force without caring about Tifa's/Cloud's feelings. That's just bitchy. ^^ But thank you for engaging with my video and leaving an algorythm comment <3
@SpongeP
@SpongeP 2 ай бұрын
The only thing that I can't seem to make sense of is the fact that there are Rito in TOTK's past. We know the Zora had evolved into the Rito following the flood before Wind Waker, so seeing them in TOTK's past has really confused me
@Banuune
@Banuune 2 ай бұрын
Hey there. So this is actually an missunderstanding. The rito did NOT evelve from the Zora. Medli did. But not all of them. The Zora were ALWAYS connected to the skies and the wind. It is said even in Wind Waker. So there could have been Rito present early on but we just never saw them :) Also the Sages are actually just reused assets, have mostly no faces and such. So there wasn't much thought that was put into that xD
@darkdagger5237
@darkdagger5237 2 ай бұрын
@@Banuune Where does it say that?
@Daniel-D-Teach
@Daniel-D-Teach 2 ай бұрын
Your videos are really creative, and ridiculously charming! It brought quite a lot of light to my day. You've got yourself a new subscriber - bell and all 😁 Also, every time you open a video with "take my hand" (yes please🙃) it brings to mind the Ranni ending which thematically is really cool.
@Banuune
@Banuune 2 ай бұрын
@@Daniel-D-Teach aaaaw! Thank you so much!! I'm glad you enjoyed it ! (:
@llliwwille
@llliwwille 2 ай бұрын
Short answer: yes Long answer: yes
@Banuune
@Banuune 2 ай бұрын
Yes.
@slateoffate9812
@slateoffate9812 2 ай бұрын
Looking at the new official timeline from Master Works, I've a different theory about conjoining it with Skyward Sword; The Golden Goddesses created the world, leaving behind the Triforce, Secret Stones, and Hylia to keep watch over them. At some point, Hylia put the zonai in charge of protecting the Secret Stones while she prioritized the Triforce. Din, in particular, created the land, but did she use as a base? I don't think there was a void before. Skyward Sword says Demise's forces broke through the Earth, so I believe Din created the land by burying the Old World, that of monsters, alive, hence Demise's grudge against the gods. The Zonai built advanced technology and, collaborating with the Mogma, mined the depths for zonaite. But then they dug too deep down, unleashing the demonic hordes upon the world. Hylia made her plan involving the Triforce and Master Sword and sent both humans and zonai into the sky, perhaps devided across more than one cloud barrier. In Skyward Sword, the humans returned to the surface. The zonai didn't. Eons later, their numbers dwindled due to some crisis. Judging by BotW's concept art, I'm betting an alien invasion. The few survivors were forced to descend from the skies and returned to the surface, possibly bringing back the worship of Hylia with them. Other sky peoples had been involved in Hyrule's founding in the past; the Wind Tribe, the Ooca; the Zonai are ultimately just another in that list. Makes you wonder much more world building Skyloft's Realm could've had.
@bryanslick8704
@bryanslick8704 2 ай бұрын
I don't understand the confusion. Rauru and Sonia founded Hyrule, say 100,000 years before BoTW. • Rauru and Sonia ruled for centuries. • Most of the Zonai left Hyrule, possibly leaving its planet altogether. • TotK timeline (past). • Rauru seals Ganondorf. • Mineru sleeps within the Purah Pad. • Zelda becomes the Light Dragon. • Hylia, seeing Hyrule bereft of its champions, creates the Goddess Sword. • Hylia arranges the Spirit of the Hero line. • Hylia incarnates as Zelda, reincarnating as needed. • Link, as Hylia planned, creates the Master Sword. • History progresses. As for Demise's Curse, it draws on the power of Evil which remains beneath Hyrule in the form of the sealed Ganondorf. As he predicted, every so often, the Evil builds up enough for an incarnation of Ganon to rise. When that happens, Hylia reincarnates as Zelda to stand with him. This seems quite clear to me.
@josephalbertson8834
@josephalbertson8834 2 ай бұрын
this doesn't work. ganondorf is the cursed reincarnation of Demise. why would Ghirahim be trying to reincarnate a Demise that has already been reincarnated. if we are saying that this takes place in the time after Demise was defeated in the past this wouldn't make sense as the islands fell to the ground so wouldn't be raised in Tears of the kingdom.
@Banuune
@Banuune 2 ай бұрын
Hey. I highly encourage you to reah through the comments, as many people have asked similar questions. It may have been my presentation, but many people seem to missunderstand specific parts of my theory and I have explained those points already in many comments. So if anything is unclear, you should be able to find answers in the comments ^^
@TurdFerg117
@TurdFerg117 2 ай бұрын
I hate how they can’t just make a continuous timeline
@johncrondis4563
@johncrondis4563 2 ай бұрын
Great great video, merci! I don't think Marika is a silver tear, but I do think the Numen are like proto/pre silver tears, which were made of stone/petrified wood/fossil, rather than silver. I think that the game is pretty on the ball showing us that the Numen came in those ships we see in the Cerulean coast, and we see the same re-leafs on the obelisks near the "shamans" in siofra river. Miyazaki says the Shadow land is not ouside the lands between, and is part of it, but the Numens come from "outside". Shadow lands is where Marika first stepped foot, but was not where she originated. I think there is something you are onto with seeing that "scions" means descendent, but I don't think it means Numen as a whole race came after the Eternal City. I think with "Marika the Eternal" and "Eternal City", it is trying to tell us something about the origins, especially with all the big petrified trees around the underground. The statues I do think are Radagon too, which I am happy you said. However, like others, I think that Radagon and Marika maybe were merged in a Jar ritual. Feels like it would be the simplest thing based on what has been revealed.
@NolaoNolas
@NolaoNolas 2 ай бұрын
hey Banuune, the book Tears of the Kingdom Master Works just proved your theory to be true. Amazing job! Check out the video on the book by QuestWithAaron
@Banuune
@Banuune 2 ай бұрын
I watched his video yesterday with moxie. I also interpretated it to be true :D And thank you ^^
@NolaoNolas
@NolaoNolas 2 ай бұрын
@@Banuune it blew me away! i guess the Rito question and the Gerudo whereabouts in Skyward Sword are the points to be retconned or reinterpreted. If we think about it, the next game also brings the river and sea zora coexistence into the scene, so i guess spawning and respawning races could be no problem to the goddess. I think this scenario ends up pleasing me a lot.
@Banuune
@Banuune 2 ай бұрын
@@NolaoNolas Gossip Geist made a good video about the Zora Rito thing which can also explain the Race stuff. Like there are races living outside Hyrule but they still have connections to it. Like we see it in totk with Yona. She is not from Hyrule but her Zora kingdom had connections to the Hyrule Zora Kingdom. And Maybe the Bird-Rito were always living outside of hyrule at that time. And if I'm right, then it could be that the Gerudo were chased out of the Dessert because of what happend with Ganondorf. We also have the "gerudo dragonfly" that is present. So the word gerudo was present even during SS. :) But yeah. I think I'm right here xD
@NolaoNolas
@NolaoNolas 2 ай бұрын
@@Banuune I think i might have watched that. Im subscribed to most of you guys creating zelda lore content... It kinda makes easier to theorize on things now that we might have the answer to where Rauru's Kingdom fits the timeline. There's a video, i don't remember by who, that talks about the Goddess of the Sand in OoT's spirit temple. The video's conclusion is that the goddess is a depiction of Nayru, which would have been worshipped by the Gerudo before goddess Hylia was around. That would also point to their existence during Skyward Sword's events...
@darkdagger5237
@darkdagger5237 2 ай бұрын
@@Banuune You may want to check that timeline again because it does not say that Rauru's era is before Skyward sword.
@JonathanTrevatt
@JonathanTrevatt 2 ай бұрын
The Hylians lack of advancement over such a long period kind of makes sense considering how often they have a near world ending event and civilisation starts from scratch. Plus, with their population counts and the tiny amount of space they have, its a miracle they exist at all and aren't inbred to hell (with a few notable exceptions). Though, I understand that the map area and population is not necessarily a true representation of the intended story because of technical and game design considerations.
@rachaelbratton2972
@rachaelbratton2972 2 ай бұрын
Good theory even if I don't agree with it though it does have some stronge arguments. I frankly believe in a re- establishing of the kingdom and a new gannon. If your timebline is correct then what about the gannon of ocarina of time? Are they one in the same to you or separate gannons as gannon of time knows of the triforce while gannon of tears doesn't.
@Banuune
@Banuune 2 ай бұрын
Hey. Thank you. I read online that, according to the totk master work book, the founding of the zoning Hyrule took place at the beginning of the timeline. In the "era of gods". So I don't know for sure and have to research a bit more, or get my hands on the book, but I think I'm onto something
@OctagonalSquare
@OctagonalSquare 2 ай бұрын
I personally think the “distant past” we see in TOTK is BEFORE skyward sword. Ganon in this situation would not be the incarnation of Demise’s hatred. It could be that Raru and Sonia founded the original Hyrule before the events of the past mentioned in Skyward Sword. They would then raise their kingdom up, leaving behind the Sheika and other races. Then the events of skyward sword happens long after, when the Zonai have long since passed on and left their islands in the sky, explaining some of the weird islands you find in Skyward Sword that dont seem relevant to Skyloft.
@Banuune
@Banuune 2 ай бұрын
Hey there. I see you. But I was more talking about the rauru/Zelda time of totk, but not the entire zonai past thing. This happened probably way before when hylia was still on the surface
@camronreynosa4958
@camronreynosa4958 2 ай бұрын
Idk what you be smokin but talk of totk and skyward connections are very hot topics across fan discussions
@Banuune
@Banuune 2 ай бұрын
Weed. I smoke weed. But I don't know what you mean, as I know that everyone sees the similarities between the games, but in my opinion, the people are interpreting the similarities wrong. Sooo... Yeah ... But that is just my opinion
@camronreynosa4958
@camronreynosa4958 2 ай бұрын
Why is it weird the the FOUNDERS OF HYRULE literally BEFORE THE RISE OF THE REINCARNATION CYCLE nevet new about it? Its not bc in there time, everything is just about to start...
@Banuune
@Banuune 2 ай бұрын
That is literally what I said in my video. That he doesn't know because nothing happened yet.
@takendruid
@takendruid 2 ай бұрын
Gotta say, seeing dehydrated ganon’s face in pure darkness when my iPad has the lowest brightness setting is actually kind of terrifying
@Banuune
@Banuune 2 ай бұрын
It is xD He is ugly. But still terrifying..
@javierowo
@javierowo 3 ай бұрын
19:29 what is thi track you used?? it sounds majestic and beautiful my god
@Banuune
@Banuune 3 ай бұрын
Hi! It's tears of the Kingdoms "Large Zonai Facility Part 4" kzbin.info/www/bejne/hJCsXqmQo9uUobs ^^
@pikagiuppy93
@pikagiuppy93 3 ай бұрын
is he stupid?
@Dwight1295
@Dwight1295 3 ай бұрын
Can the sages actually lift up the great sky island besides Zelda? they don’t have time powers, right? 🤔
@Banuune
@Banuune 3 ай бұрын
@@Dwight1295 No they can't. But they can tell the zonai what to lift (:
@fatalwaffle1715
@fatalwaffle1715 3 ай бұрын
Awesome Theory!
@Banuune
@Banuune 2 ай бұрын
Thank you ^^ And If I'm reading the post on X about the totk Master Works - it might be correct (:
@fatalwaffle1715
@fatalwaffle1715 2 ай бұрын
No problem.
@OffSatan
@OffSatan 3 ай бұрын
neet theory, but it has some major holes: throughout the series we see the Zora evolve a lot, as such neither Zora nor Rito existed yet at the time of Skyward Sword. Ganondorf is an incarnation of Demise's hatered, as such he had to be born at some point after Demise's demise. Not only that, but he had to not be alive in order to be reborn prior to OoT as we've seen time and time again that the land is in peace when Ganon is sealed and not dead.
@armnhc84
@armnhc84 3 ай бұрын
I wouldn’t say he was stupid, but incredibly naive absolutely.
@TheTrueNehme
@TheTrueNehme 3 ай бұрын
Also it wasn't Link's fault that the timeline split (Not completely anyway, he didn't _choose_ to be sent back to the child timeline after beating Ganon), it can be argued that it _is_ his fault the Fallen timeline happened. Since it's a widely accepted theory that the Power of Courage allows the holder to continue (from 'Game Over' on the player's perspective) persisting after death so long as they have the will to. As that's the only way the "fallen timeline" can make any sense. It was all _Zelda's_ fault that the timeline split (possibly twice now)
@con8848
@con8848 3 ай бұрын
You left out a small Detail. Sonai structures won't dissapear when the segments were made out of real parts instead of transformed sonanium.
@TheTrueNehme
@TheTrueNehme 3 ай бұрын
0:18 if Zelda had the Resident Evil narrator
@kalzaar6300
@kalzaar6300 3 ай бұрын
I not convinced with the "first hyrule" theory. tetra knew about old hyrule and was the founder and first ruler of new hyrule so I take all that with a grain salt. I dont like it's placement anywhere as theres just enough to screw it up in each spot other than a convergence or seperate timeline off of the time travel in SS, then converging later with some made up excuse to add rito in that early before they evolved. so much of this current hyrule seems to rely on the adult timeline to even attempt to fit. yet when link and tetra leave for new hyrule that opens a whole new question on how hylia's bloodline got back to the great sea area. -it wouldnt make sense with the zonai ruins being on the upper "new" land created by the deku tree from WW. this is also where the kokiri evolved. unfortunately as far as I know we dont see any koroks or kokiri in the past of TOTK. that would be huge. -If he made the first hyrule the zonai mining operations in the depths wouldnt make sense if you agree with the WW new landmass, as that would of been old hyrule underneath the ones the zonai made and have ruins on. -It wouldnt make sense for there to be rito before WW when they evolved from a branch of zora mentioned in WW. -the old king destroyed the old flooded hyrule and drown ganondorf along with almost everything related to it. the depths appear as if they had once been underwater. and makes sense for it's placement combined with new land mass point. -in wind waker Tetra herself didnt even know about Zelda, showing that the loss of history line of logic is quite loose imo. this isn't the first game to have little history on the subject. -Without OOT's ganon being sealed in the sacred realm, the evil realm wouldn't exist. without the evil realm the sage's power would not be suppressed and localized to only be strong enough while inside the chamber of sages, and cannot penetrate the evil realm. the evil realm was fixed in all timelines except the adult timeline. the message and the message when you're about to fight ganondorf about sages powers not being to reach you to me would imply that the scared realm is still corrupted into the evil realm. I only think this is important as if the triforce was unavailable to "new" ganondorf. my interpretation is was that new ganon was using the secret stone to tap into the evil realm leading to the vast ammount of monsters he summoned, and the extra demonic form. - some people say vaati was the first demise reincarnation, I disagree as hes linked to the four sword and showed up in FSA with vaati. -wouldnt make sense to have two instances of demise's curse, (one sealed and one active at the same time) to be waiting from after SS all the way to TOTK past all the 100% required to happen first events like the Rito imo --in spirit track terta and link leave to found "new hyrule" in a new land, thus removing any royal family members to keep the history. the great flood was still active at the time of them sailing to find new land. the triforce is also notably missing in this land, yet still used as the royal family symbol. I already mentioned the issues here. -I think it does make sense that King rauru doesnt know about ganon and all that as, after the land mass grew back and all the disconnected people on tiny island for years finally meet up wouldnt know jack about the past, seeing as how WW wasnt like a world ending event and would fly under these peoples noses who already saw the hero of time as a legend, if they even knew about him. -there is absolutly no references to the golden godesses nor the triforce in the present, or the past of TOTK. this doesnt make sense to me as they def have a presence in SS. this to me implies the loss of the culture. - my issue with him founding it after the temple was raised is the obvious blood of hylia's decendants residing on said island. i may of misunderstood this point however. -the lack of deku scrubs and babas implies downfall timeline / Adult timeline to me aswell. idk its wierd. I want my wood bois back! especially if its a convergence! - the placement of the mastersword in the lost woods implies downfall timeline since thats the only game with the mastersword in the forest. which is a weird reference aswell. idk some of these are speculation ofc, but these to me makes it imposible for the zonai to of made hyrule after SS The past Rito is just... frustrating. but the koroks new landmass, and others are still really hard to fit in for me other than a convergence of some sort. it's a lot to wrap your head around. good video though. I'm gonna spend another week looking at all this stuff again. 🤣
@P3PS1GirlRukia
@P3PS1GirlRukia 3 ай бұрын
Also, with what happened to Zelda and Ganondorf when they swallowed their stones, plus the 3 elemental Zonai armor sets that Link finds in TotK, the dragons of BotW&TotK were likely Zonai that swallowed stones themselves
@FrankenTruck
@FrankenTruck 3 ай бұрын
Interesting! Does this assume TOTK isn't a sequel to BOTW?
@WildflowersCreations
@WildflowersCreations 3 ай бұрын
So glad I found this video, great work all the way through!
@Banuune
@Banuune 3 ай бұрын
@@WildflowersCreations thank you so much! I have improved since I made this video (as it was my first) and I'm planning on making another timeline video when I'm done with the elden ring videos I'm writing on haha
@KitKat-sv9qp
@KitKat-sv9qp 3 ай бұрын
4:17 hello, what's the song for this part of the video? it sounds super familiar, is it from totk's ost?
@Banuune
@Banuune 3 ай бұрын
It is The Monumet's Arise from Botw ^^
@KitKat-sv9qp
@KitKat-sv9qp 3 ай бұрын
@@Banuune Thank you so much! I love this video btw 😭
@Banuune
@Banuune 3 ай бұрын
Thank you so much 🥺 ❤️ In the future I will upload another one where I will explain my timeline placement in full detail with all pros and cons. And I have improved so much since in my editing, so you'll hopefully enjoy it even more ^_^
@KitKat-sv9qp
@KitKat-sv9qp 3 ай бұрын
​@@Banuune That's great, im super excited for that!! KZbin's notification system doesn't work for me half the time, but i'll put it on your channel to try and see if i can get a notification for when it comes out :>
@Banuune
@Banuune 3 ай бұрын
@@KitKat-sv9qp I'll make sure that you'll get notified! (: If you are interested in Elden Ring, you can check out my other videos to get a taste of my improved editing (:
@DarkwaveMistress
@DarkwaveMistress 3 ай бұрын
This makes sense to me. It's pretty obvious we have two different Hyrules and since everything is cyclical in LoZ, the kingdom itself has to be too. I also thought TotK past could fit somewhere before SW and you explained it in the best way possible.
@Banuune
@Banuune 3 ай бұрын
@@DarkwaveMistress thank you so much. I'm glad you enjoyed it.
@InvaderGIR98
@InvaderGIR98 3 ай бұрын
Yeah I think there are 3 Hyrule's at this point (Hyrule founded after Skyward Sword, the one that the majority of the games take place. New Hyrule, that WW Link and Tetra found after finding a new continent. And Hyrule refounded, where BOTW and TOTK take place, which is not only bigger than any Hyrule we've seen but also seems to have incorperated previous countries into it (Tarm is a location in Oracle of Seasons Holodrum, and Talus Peak in Labrynna, there are other landmarks I can't think of off the top of my head)