Thanks!

Cheers from Bristol!

Most of the Turkish cymbal companies will sell blanks if you ask them, and there are some Chinese foundries (aside from Wuhan) supplying. Sabian have also started supplying blanks, and there's Domene in Brazil. Some are better than others, and of course you have to balance material price / quality / shipping price / timescale... Feel free to drop me a line via my website if you want and I can run you through it. collingwoodcymbals.com/pages/contact I'll also take the opportunity to plug my Patreon covering everything about working as a cymbalsmith. It's free to join: www.patreon.com/collingwoodcymbals

The link for this particular one is in the description, that'll take you to my website where you can check out everything I currently have available.

@MatthewBarelick No I specifically ordered blanks much heavier than splashes, one without a bell (the bottom cymbal), then hand-hammered and lathed them specifically for this application. I was commissioned to make a set of 7" hi-hats just like this for a customer so ordered 2 sets of blanks, the first set I made hit the brief so I made this set for my inventory. My customer commissioned the set to be inspired by Sabian's Nano Hats, an admittedly niche but widely available product used by many, many drummers around the world playing a certain style of music, or just wanting to experiment with this kind of sound. As for genre, generally we're talking something like drum & bass / electronica, played on acoustic instruments or mixed with electronic elements. Very popular among certain players, but not for everyone, sure. I can't tell if your comment is slightly accusatory with the pairing up 7" splashes remark, so forgive me if I come across defensive, I struggle with the internet at the best of times, but it seems there's a swathe of players and influences out there of which you're unaware, you don't have to like it (not my bag either, personally, although I love certain electronic / avant garde / experimental music), but yes if it makes a noise there's a use for it. As a cymbal maker I try to cater to any & all, or at least give options & offer the ability to make something out of my comfort zone, because ultimately I'm making instruments for other people.

@@Collingwoodcymbals sorry if the question was uncomfortable but I've never understood "Experimental Music" either, Have always been a fan of Buddy Rich and this is his quote "There are two kinds of Music, Good and Bad!" These hats sound like Heavy Splashes, To each their own though!

No problem at all, I just get a bit jumpy around KZbin comments because the place can be a cesspit. I totally get your angle, and yes - to each their own! I guess there's a lot of flavours of experimental music out there, somehow I find some good, and some bad... I think I agree with the quote!

Yes it's all a bit wild out there! Thanks for the kind words, there are lots of good options for handmade cymbals these days with a bit of a surge in the independent cymbalsmith thing. Pricing is a hot topic, for sure! I try to keep things fair whilst keeping myself and my kids fed. Cheers for now!

No, not the B20 bronze cymbals. Hammering compresses / stretches the material when hit against an anvil, so you can't shrink it back, and if hit unsupported it'll crack fairly quickly.

@@Collingwoodcymbals 👍 thanks!

My anvil is about 6" diameter with a gentle curve at the edge and a flat portion of about 3"-4" diameter in the middle.

@@Collingwoodcymbals ok, thanks for sharing ! 👌

@@plantamurga Happy to help! There's lots of information on my Patreon: www.patreon.com/collingwoodcymbals

Now *that* is a huge topic. The short answer is: It Depends. The long answer is: It Really Depends. Once you understand how to control the metal inside and out, you can choose where you begin, which way you work, how you prepare for certain steps by maybe even putting "mistakes" in on purpose... Direction certainly makes a difference, but there's a lot to it. It's easy to lose control working either way, for a multitude of reasons, and it's easy to stay in control if you understand the parameters you're working within. Certain goals for the outcome might lend themselves more to a specific approach, but ultimately you can get to similar results in a huge number of ways. I've done a few videos on my Patreon about it (plug, plug www.patreon.com/collingwoodcymbals ) and maybe I'll make a video looking at your question specifically.

@arnabshahriar Yeah, trust me I'm not claiming they sound "good" now!

@@LassetUnsSpielen ??? Sorry, I don't understand.

@@Collingwoodcymbals just a pun. sorry

OK I get it now! Love a good pun, but (and sorry to be "that guy"), cymbals are bronze so I was a bit thrown. Keep 'em coming!

@@Collingwoodcymbals Oh my bad, i just started learning the drums a week ago

@@LassetUnsSpielen No worries! I hope you're enjoying it.

@@noodlesoup6557 Don't worry, I've got much worse to come!

Mine is around 285 (2850 motor with a 10:1 reduction gearbox). Apart from making this video, I never work on brass, only B20 bronze, so the speed suits that. Each material will respond differently to different speeds, I have no idea what would be more suitable for brass but there's a wealth of knowledge on the subject out there!

Excelent! Thanks 👍

Yes I can tell you all about it, but do you mean the machinery or the cutting tools? Feel free to reach out on email if you like, you can contact me through my website collingwoodcymbals.com/pages/contact or my Patreon is free to join now and has LOTS of information about all of it www.patreon.com/collingwoodcymbals

@@Collingwoodcymbals thanks! About the cutting tool!

@@plantamurga No problem, the ones I use are tungsten carbide tipped lathe tools, you can buy them individually or in sets with various different profiles, and then they can be reshaped to different curves / points for different lathing styles. I generally buy these: www.chronos.ltd.uk/product/soba-tct-roughing-tool-1-2-shank/

@@Collingwoodcymbals 💓

Thanks! That's the sort of sound I like in a cymbal, something a bit more foreboding that you can "conduct" with dynamics.

Thanks!

@HugoHaffah I just answered your hammer question on a different video (look at www.downingarts.com ), I made my anvils myself, all the details can be found on my Patreon at www.patreon.com/collingwoodcymbals ... it's free to join!

@@Collingwoodcymbals Wow! Thank you so much. I want to start hammering some cymbals to learn. This will help me a lot!!!

@@HugoHaffah I use the Nicholas K Downing 'New Basic' cymbalsmith hammer for the setup at the beginning, then the 'Collingwood New Basic' for most of the rest of the work. Find them at www.downingarts.com

Yeah I know Bruno, does awesome work!

These are brass plated steel. Cotter keys would be worth trying, not sure the shape of them would provide enough sizzle, but maybe with some manipulation! Split pins (stationery supplies) can work well too, and are very easy (& cheap) to add and remove.

Many thanks!

Generally they're not lathed, mostly hammered on one side so the metal buckles into the desired shape. I came up with this idea after thinking a lot about how hammering and lathing can be used in similar ways to influence shape / strength and, as far as I'm aware, nobody else at the time was making stacks this way. I know a few do now as I've taught this method through my Patreon! Maybe some companies do use bending / rolling, I couldn't say for sure. Another video digging deeper into how and why this works is a great idea!

@@Collingwoodcymbals Ohhh okayy, I'll join your patreon then too! Would absolutely love to lean more

Oh sorry, I must have forgotten, what was it in reference to?

Haha seriously!? I'd argue that adopting a stance regardless of content and context is where things become meaningless and problematic, coming at something with like 100 views which is clearly fucking with the format is not where the battle lies. You think I don't agree that there are major issues with the use of AI? That's a wide, sweeping assumption but it looks and feels great as a viewpoint, right!? You're a true hero. Or maybe you were joking.

Thanks! Plenty more videos to come. As for your question - it depends! Can be better to leave it alone, but if you want to send me a picture I'll take a look and we can discuss it. You can contact me through my website - www.collingwoodcymbals.com

...on a 23 second sped up teaser video

I have found if they get a good amount of patina on them they can sound interesting

Yes! One of my learner rides was heavy brass - I swear it sounded nice with a sizzle chain.

My ride is a thick brass old meinl meteor, better than the newer meteor cymbals. i mostly play metal so it works well for me, good stick definition, short sustain especially since i have 2 moongels on the underside of it, and a nice sounding bell in my opinion. Totally useless crashability on it, but i have a 18 inch aax explosion crash which i use as a left side jazz ride, i might try putting a sizzle chain on the aax crash sometime

Lol, the first kit i borrowed to practice, i found a cracked cymbal and hung it with a string,and we proceeded to play Rock of some kind!

@@Catinthehackmatrix you know, I used to play my cheap ass brass crashes with a string, kinda like those percussion stands with multiple cymbals in line. Thank God I was able to buy some stands lol