First few implementations would have massive hp sponging but it would be better than current MoC after balancing

@@haojudai5271 Hoyoverse players when they have to respect others opinions 🤯

@@BestgirlJordanfish honestly depends on the viewpoint, there are plenty of JRPGs that does a great job at their design from a gameplay perspective (Shin Megami Tensei, FF, Persona, Metaphor Refantazio etc…) gachas in generally can have these issues due to the way their designed to try to sell their new characters. If it weren’t for HSR being a gacha, I believe it would’ve been much better design wise.

Sparkle should have been the “Sunday” for hypercarry but I believe they too scared to have drastic power creep like that I mean sparkle was pre superbreak so that Pandora’s box wasn’t fully opened yet.

Yes i hate firefly bc hoyo cherish her to much

Cope

There are two sides imo. I 33% agree with the "you didn't pull the right units." Characters like Robin, Sunday, and/or Ruan Mei are *needed* for the casual playerbase. If you don't have at least one of them, it's kind of your fault. I understand that in Robin's and Ruan Mei's cases in particular, nobody knew that they would age so well. But they both already had a rerun, so if you have neither by now in fear of them "getting replaced by the next harmony unit" or "I don't have that archetype," then it's your fault. Ruan Mei doesn't HAVE to be in a break team to function well, and Robin doesn't NEED to be in a FuA comp to function well. Sunday is expected to age very, very well given the upcoming summon meta that's been plastered everywhere. Harmony units are by far the most valuable characters to have in your account. Tingyun, Bronya, and Sparkle still have some relevancy, even if they're aging a little. I mean, I still use Sparkle for my E0S1 Acheron team, even though people are starting to say Sparkle is falling off, yet I'm still 4 cycling stuff, and could 3 cycle if I had better relics (I don't farm for my Acheron team anymore). It's not ideal, but it gets the job done. It's not like Acheron without her BiS supports just can't clear content anymore. Certain characters are also considered luxury pulls, like Topaz. By luxury, I mean giving teams more oomph, rather than being a core component that fundamentally changes how a team plays. This means that if you are F2P, you should ideally skip them if you want to "future proof" your team a little more I 66% disagree with "you didn't pull the right units" because f2p players just don't get enough pulls per patch, especially at the rate with how fast 5 stars are releasing. Yes, F2P players get about ~130 pulls, but ~20 of those are standard tickets, so that's ~110 limited banner pulls. If it was ~150 limited banner pulls per patch (as much as a monthly/BP spender gets), this would at least give F2P players a little wiggle room when making decisions on who to pull. It would also just give them more characters in general, which is always nice. Of course, the end game shouldn't be as bad as it is. The fact is, the end game is designed around having either a full FuA archetype or full break archetype, and if you don't have at least one, then you are kind of screwed. Even with high investment units (I'm talking E1 and E2), and signature light cones, it's still fairly hard to 0 cycle or even 1 cycle without having a deep understanding of game mechanics. Imagine how it is for the general playerbase; it'll take them 3 cycles MINIMUM unless you're doing wonky DDD and Eagle set ups

I agree with that though, if you're going F2P then Superbreak is your best bet

For the planar set, you could argue that for characters like Boothill and Rappa, Talia is still a good set to use other than Forge since both characters do focus on speed. The 4% difference in BE isn't significant. Your thoughts on the Iron Cavalry set is justified though. The only thing I find weird about your opinion is how you're not a fan of FF because she's "easy" to use. I'm not disagreeing with it, I just think the difficulty of a character is a weird thing to fixate on. Maybe you're trying to say easy to use characters aren't fun to play with? Oh well, it's your account at the end of the day.

@MalciferMephisto I got other reasons for why I dislike her. Those are some of them actually. Another reason is her way when she's with our MC. I feel like the devs pushing her to us and making her somewhat clingy to us. Furthermore, we could have got an awesome robot as a character. Like, I was disappointed when know the fact she's piloting S.A.M. and now, I'm getting tired the fact some memes of her being this yandere gf or she's behind the mask of Capitano. I like the idea of a playable cool robot since we might get Screwllum as an example but then, it's just Firefly going into her mech suit. I feel like both Firefly and S.A.M fans felt this when they want them to be individuals rather than be the same person but I won't deny that there are also people fine with it. Just to make it clear about the whole she's easy to use. I don't like the fact she just seems broken without anything to hold her back. Like Acheron at least needs to wait her stacks to go ultimate. But Firefly? She's easy to go into her ultimate and use her enhanced skill to implant fire weakness. The only thing that can stop her is if weakness bar is covered from us breaking them and that's like rare happening. Also, her fans are quite >> Well, unlikeable (some of them or even most). I remember the fact they even want Fugue purposely only usable for her rather than can be a bit more for others >>

@@mikyeediaz120 yeah some/most Firefly fans are nuts it makes me ashamed to be one of them lol 💀 Thanks for clarifying the "easy to use" bit. Totally get where you're coming from along with all the other reasons you have stated. I hope 3.0 is kind to us (Cause I lost 170+ pulls to Fugue 😭)

@@MalciferMephisto Sorry for not being clear about the reason I dislike her. It just tires me all the time if I have to explain it to anyone wonders why. Aww :') I hope you'll get anyone you want in 3.0+ ! I wanted to get Fugue but I lost to Bronya >> I think she's mad that I replaced her with Sunday. It's a tough decision for me because I want The Herta yet Fugue is a good pull!

You’d be quite surprised, plenty of people on discord and even Reddit complains about break and how unfun the playstyle is due to firefly implant 😭

@@ripmymentall If the playstyle isn't fun for them then shouldn't they just... not play it? What's the harm? The release of Super Break doesn't make Crit DPSes any less valuable. Acheron and Feixiao are considered top DPS along with Firefly and they're both Crit-based. Robin, who is considered the best support in the game, exponentially increases the damage dealt by Crit and DoT teams while being considered useless for Break teams but nobody is complaining about that. Players like them are so salty, and for what? XD

@@MalciferMephisto I agree with you, but at the end of the day it’s a Hoyoverse community and people will find something to complain about, that’s just the nature of it unfortunately

​@@ripmymentall For real. Some people in the community really want the Break archetype to die. They even went so far as to preach to other people that Break is "dead" in 3.0 because of summons and apparently future enemies will be "unbreakable." The cope is unreal. (I look at leaks. I can tell people for a certainty that the enemies aren't unbreakable at all.)

​@@MalciferMephistoThat, and remembrance units also have a chance to be part of the break meta

I would say it’s low floor high ceiling in that case

​@@immortal3018Yup, because high floor means you need a lot of investment while low ceiling means it ain't worth it

This exactly.

That's not his point you know? People are hating Break because of the fact its existence affects the endgame contents' setups, powercreeping every traditional damage dealer. Hyperbloom sure was OP, but it didn't affect Abyss setups. If you want a relevant to Break in GI, it's actually Neuvillette. After he came out, the powercreep process in GI became feel-able. Permafreeze became non-exist, Mono Geo feels like a joke, even National teams feel less of a menace. He really was a breakpoint in GI history, comparable to Firefly.

Firefly is the least buffed out of every unit because she can’t really utilize the weakness ignore from Fugue’s skill. As for your question, she does benefit from Fugue’s break but Harmony MC works perfectly fine with Firefly. If you plan on switching to remembrance MC when she comes out then pull for fugue if you wanna continue playing superbreak going forward

aight you can post the showcase video, imma decide after seeing the comparison

What a trash take. Your point basically boils down to "Firefly is bad because a limited support's ability is already baked into her kit". Lol.

@@arcuslux516 well she does technically replace HMC (since she’s gonna be remembrance path) BUT in terms of the buffs, Firefly is the least buffed. Lets just say you don’t plan on pulling for any remembrance units, then HMC is still BiS for Firefly (unless you wanna use Lingsha and use Fugue’s skill on her)

When I was originally doing this run I was thinking the exact same thing 😭 I just wanted to give firefly the showcase but I 100% agree with your statement

Precisely. Though, the best way to think about it is that Fugue allows Firefly to focus on doing what Firefly does best, rather than acting as a Fire Implant support to enable Lingsha/Gallagher to operate at optimal efficiency. Firefly can focus on dealing damage to the targets where she will achieve maximum results.

@@gigagamerhd735 E1S0 or E0S1 works perfectly fine. Even E0S0 with solitary healing or the SW lightcone works perfectly fine.

I can bet that 3.X in HSR won't really show much of DMG increase unless it's very popular character (like Archon in Genshin)