@@andress4876 no need to steal it. It’s free for everyone!

@@justoutlaw6423 it’s more stable than most other racing shoes, but as a category, racing shoes are not that stable. The plate and the wide heel base help though. It’s certainly more stable than any of the shoes I compared it with in the shoe-off section.

@@justoutlaw6423 for what it’s worth, I overpronate quite a bit too.

@@thecaptainchas2820 Thanks.

@@thecaptainchas2820 I value your opinion :). I'm not goiong to be raing a mrathin anytime soon but plan to do 5k to half marathon races and looking for a somewhat stable (as much as a raceing shoe can be) option for those distances. Judging by the rewies online Puma DNE3 and BN Pacer 2 could be it. Maybe Endo Pro 4? Any suggestions?

@@justoutlaw6423 I haven’t run in the Endorphin Pro 4 yet, but I have tried it on in the store. I can say that the Speed 4 is *slightly* more stable than the Speed 3 because of the shape of the rear foot, and the same might be true of the Pro 4 and Pro 3, but that would only be conjecture. The Pro 3 is not the most stable shoe. It’s more stable than a Vaporfly, but it’s tough to have 39mm of bouncy PEBA foam in the heel and make it stable, even with a carbon fiber plate. The NB SC Elite v4 will be more stable, but like I said in the shoe talk, that’s not a shoe I’m interested in if I have the SC Pacer v2.

@@jesusgonzalez-zp1fr Yeah, that’s too bad. And they fit fairly snug. Sorry, man.

@@babyyoda134 yeah I agree. I’m finding the Edge Paris to be at the very top for everything except maybe the marathon. I never had the Vaporfly 2, but I still have a couple pairs of Vaporfly 1 with some life in them, and they still hold up!

@@fecardona nah. It was still a road shoe surface I think. I wouldn’t use a dedicated trail shoe unless it was technical single-track (it wasn’t) and/or was very wet and sloppy.

@@13lars can you clarify the question please?

@@thecaptainchas2820 maybe its the angle 🙃

@@13lars I don’t run with an extended selfie-stick, and I’m sure the fisheye lens on the GoPro isn’t very flattering. I wouldn’t say my form is aesthetically pleasing, but it’s probably a lot more normal than it looks on these videos. I’m a forefoot/midfoot striker with 180-190 spm cadence (higher during short races and fast reps) with a slight anterior lean, probably due to my chronically tight hip flexors.

@@jackjill2010 Everyone loves some good #taptheplate for your ASMR!

@@13lars I compare them directly at 10:04. Very similar, at least in purpose.

@@jorgecastrejon1611 thanks for watching!

@@i.p2088 I was underwhelmed by the feeling of the SC Elite v4 when I tried it in the store a few months ago. So I waited patiently for this one. It has a more race-like feel.

@@jay1572 absolutely. This is a very versatile shoe. You can pick up the pace if you want or just cruise. And I’ve taken it on several 20-mile runs since this review dropped, and the cushion & response hold up well for the long haul.

@@JW-ri1mb I ran in the Invincible 1, not the Invincible 2 or 3. For my purposes, I’d much rather run in the Eleos. It can do more. It feels comfortable at any pace and distance. In fact, I just did a hilly 19 miles in them this morning at a very easy aerobic pace. The Invincibles were fun for me, but more of a recovery shoe or a squishy shoe for easy base days. If you really want that squishy cushion, I don’t know that the Eleos will give you all of it. But the cushion is bouncy and comfortable.

@@wonkydonkey7899 probably so.

@@PatrickStar-km1dm he’s been putting the work in! He ran his first sub-6 with a 5:57 about four weeks ago and then just here took another 4 seconds off. When they do their next benchmark, I’m going to try and push him to 5:50.

@@thecaptainchas2820 Love to see it! That's awesome!

@@TheBsheep The Takumi Sen is one of the shoes you will say against it in this week’s upcoming review/shoe-off! I’m inclined to agree with you.

@@McLeod573 Thanks! And good luck with your PR as well!

@@McLeod573 Thanks! Yes. Very hot!

@@13lars negative. The Cielo X 1 is the fastest shoe in that group by far. It actually is a racer. The Prime X can be fast, but it gets mushy at higher efforts.

@@insomniaforever6444 Thanks! Of nothing else, I’ll get some good, focused training!

@@GrayGhostF3 Thanks! Good to see you out there!

@@tono1665 Thanks! For some, yes, it is a viable marathon shoe. Two of the three female US marathoners going to the Paris Olympics will be using this shoe (O’Keefe and Lindwurm). And they used it for the trials in February. Others might find it a little aggressive for the marathon distance.

@@colindittmer. I guess that does limit the customizability. Having run it for a couple of races and a few workouts now though, I can’t say I’ve thought about it.

@@JohnBirtchetSharpe There definitely is an appeal to well directed events and events with history. It’s not always about PRs and fast times!

@@jackjill2010 Thanks!

@@jerrydooley7551 I could see that. It’s pretty stable for a super foam.

@@skobodabaws8946 Thank you!

@@insomniaforever6444 I hope you enjoy them!

@@deshkanagrikhoon Thanks!

@@mrgroundhog9790 Thanks for watching!

@@jorgecastrejon1611 Hey thanks!

@@PatrickStar-km1dm Thanks! Warm day out there. I’m still trying to rehydrate from it!

Good Khan-tent…

@@thecaptainchas2820 🤣

@@jackjill2010 Thanks for watching! I’ve been hearing great things about the Superblast 2.

The Superblast as a quicker turnover.

@@thecaptainchas2820 thanks

A year and a half, actually. But I don’t have the Superblast 2. I have to work with what I have. Otherwise I would have compared with the SC Trainer v3.

Yeah I think we’re of like mind. The Neo Vista might have some crossover between a comfy, creamy base run shoe and a super trainer that can handle some long runs and MP workouts. I just took it for 20 miles yesterday (with a social coffee break in the middle). It’s just an enjoyable run experience. I literally just stepped out of CRC Dilworth. They have it in there if you want to try it on.

I’m probably going to have to give it a follow up review after 100 miles or so. It’s just taking me awhile to unlock this shoe.

The Neo Vista is my favorite trainer of the year so far.

Is the Cielo X1softer while running than the superblast ?

@@user-sx8rv5pz7u I dont have the superblast, but i do have cielo x1. my guess would be yes. the cielo x1 is very bouncy. foam is soft. i prefer the adios pro 3 which has a bit firmer foam. but the cielo x1 is fun to run in, i just prefer something a little more stable

Good question. If we’re talking trainers, I’d say the Mizuno Neo Vista. Racing-wise…it’s between the Metaspeed Edge Paris and the AlphaFly 3. But there’s always time to reassess…

Thanks! At least there aren’t any hills on it!

@@thecaptainchas2820 😄

Thanks for watching. Clarification: I actually would prefer the Hoka Rocket X 2 for races longer than 15k, but I prefer the Deviate Nitro Elite 3 for 15k and under. However, the more I’ve been running in the Puma since this review, the more it has opened up. I might have to do a follow-up to see if I think it could handle some longer things. As far as vs the Adios Pro 3, I think there very little crossover in use case scenario. I would only reach for the adidas when racing a half marathon or marathon (or 50k, which I used it for in January). The Puma is a lot lighter and bouncier, and the adidas is more of a cruiser. As far as workouts, I’d use the Puma for shorter, faster reps and the adidas for long tempo runs or marathon pace runs, but I could use either for threshold workout.

Longer, yes. More roomy…not necessarily. They still have a taper to the forefoot which would make them pretty snug for a wide foot. I guess there’s more volume overall, but that’s mainly just some extra space in from for the first two toes. I would still go true to size.

​@@thecaptainchas2820 what about the differences in the midfoot area? Thanks

That’s a good question. I think it encourages and rewards a higher cadence. However, there are runners with larger frames and longer legs who have enjoyed this shoe (Edd Bud comes to mind). I think the experience might be different for a low cadence runner, but that might be that a higher impact leads to more compression response. That’s only a hypothesis, so I would be curious to hear others’ experiences.

It’s a fast one for sure!

Thanks for watching! Though I wouldn’t mind if more companies comped me some shoes! 😉

I’m glad it’s helpful!