Liz Daffner

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@patgleeson8405 Ай бұрын

No offence l think Monty way is better

@lizdaffner Ай бұрын

😂

@barrypeirson3710 2 ай бұрын

Lol I saw had another KZbin short of soneone vacuuming a horse. Well today i was talking to a former dressage rider and I only know so much about horses so i said "have you ever vacuumed your horse" And she said "Theres no way a thoroughbred or any horse would let you vaccum it" I showed her this video 😂

@lizdaffner 2 ай бұрын

Haha love it!

@karenburrell2283 3 ай бұрын

Hi Liz, this is brilliant thank you! I've learned a couple of other things from this and it's great you're talking through what you're doing after the event. I wondered what I might have to do if my little horse plants her feet or swings her bum around. The key is to keep her head facing towards the float because I've had her avoid it by walking past the ramp, around the side the whole shebang! I haven't done anything yet because I want to be sure of what I'm doing. Thanks for steeing me to this clip.

@jillian_jordxnnnnn 3 ай бұрын

how do they work?

@lizdaffner 3 ай бұрын

The cuff has a length of chain. When they paw the chain moves around and can whack their leg discouraging them from pawing

@butterflyj685 5 ай бұрын

Beautiful!!!

@littleblossom7827 5 ай бұрын

Thank you SO much for posting this and including your score sheet!! Nice run!

@lizdaffner 5 ай бұрын

You’re welcome. I have a lot of rides with my scores included

@harryposner7584 5 ай бұрын

If you have to load two horses who are really attached, should you let the second horse watch the first horse loading?

@lizdaffner 5 ай бұрын

I’m sure there are many different opinions on this but I would teach each horse to load separately. You don’t want the horse that’s already loaded to experience the anxiety of their friend having trouble. I would also try to separate them and work on their attachment. I know that’s a VERY difficult thing to overcome. They find safety in each other, but I would try to encourage them to see you at their leader and protector. I don’t think loading a horse’s friend will change anything about the other horse you are trying to load.

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@JessicaStinson-og1rq 7 ай бұрын

You should watch Steve Young horsemanship videos. He is based in the British isles. He also uses the tapping method, but prior to that if you have a horse that wants to walk into you whenever it feels pressure you need to learn or teach at first to respect your space because if you have a terrified horse that tap it’s just gonna make it rare and do anything I can to keep from going in the trailer he does not like hand feeding treats, or trying to trick your horse in or anything. He just tries to teach you to face forward and move forward and he does use the tapping technique although I think he taps the horse closer to where your heels would touch it if you were trying to get it to move forward well in the

@cathiwim 7 ай бұрын

Great video! Will have to try this!

@lizdaffner 7 ай бұрын

Glad you found it helpful

@jaiminelson7004 7 ай бұрын

Just wondering not want to make you laugh

@lizdaffner 7 ай бұрын

Oh sorry. Horses don’t get into trailers for many reasons. This guy has anxiety from feeling any kind of pressure.

@kathrynwhitbread2063 7 ай бұрын

I love this!! Thanks 🙏

@jaiminelson7004 7 ай бұрын

Ok you why are you not going in the trailer?

@lizdaffner 7 ай бұрын

😂

@cathiwim 8 ай бұрын

I liked this technique and your presentation so much, I subbed! Keep up the good work!

@lizdaffner 8 ай бұрын

Ah thank you so much!!

@lynnharvey9594 8 ай бұрын

Great film

@lizdaffner 8 ай бұрын

Thank you!!

@wesmccoy7061 8 ай бұрын

Awesome video. I’ll for sure try this out

@Kas873 9 ай бұрын

Ahhh! I’m feeling so discouraged. We did this for an hour today and she still wouldn’t load 😞. It’s so defeating. Once she even put her two front feet in but immediately backed out. I never got it again. So frustrating. But we need to master this. I don’t want to not do things bc my horse won’t load.

@lizdaffner 9 ай бұрын

I’m sorry this is a struggle. You may need to do things slower if your horse has anxiety or fear. If your horse puts a foot in the trailer or even lifts a leg to try. Give them a treat and take a break. Reward any try more dramatically. Is your horse fearful or more confident? I push a confident horse more and go very slow with an insecure one. Hope this helps

@Kas873 9 ай бұрын

@@lizdaffnerYes! This helps a ton. Thank you! She definitely has some fear and anxiety. I know she trusts me, but it is really hard for her to go as far as I'm asking, into the trailer. She is food motivated, so I'll work more slowly, and do more treat rewards. Thank you!!

@lizdaffner 9 ай бұрын

You are very welcome. I’ve changed my tone a lot since making this video and I’m more empathetic to the horse’s viewpoint. Treat training can encourage positive brain patterns when asked to do certain things I learned. I don’t do a lot of treat training myself, but it’s definitely something worth exploring. I’m glad she’s food motivated. I would probably reward her try, rather than distance getting in. If she flies back, let her. You don’t want her feeling trapped or pressure on her head. That can create more anxiety. Just step her back up again and again. And when she comes back up to the trailer, give her a treat. Go slow, be patient. You got this! Do a little as often as you can, as she gets more comfortable, if you hit a wall, start being a little tougher, but quick to reward her

@Kas873 8 ай бұрын

@@lizdaffner I have good news!!! She loaded today!! No hesitation at the threshold either, just walked right in. Didn't need the whip even once! I gave her an apple, and she just stood in there for awhile, all relaxed, checking out the windows, etc. It was incredible. This is a mare who once reared and landed on her back to avoid going in. It's amazing. Thank you so much for all your help. I think I found your video a exactly right time to apply your techniques and advice. I really appreciate it! Life-changing!

@lizdaffner 8 ай бұрын

@@Kas873 Congratulations!! I’m so happy for you and your horse!!! I made the video but you did the hard work! What changed? What made the biggest impact? Now you two can explore the word ♥️

@musicachingona7425 10 ай бұрын

Me encanto tienes talento, es muy bonito...

@Cam43374 10 ай бұрын

That looks dangerous, 👌

@lizdaffner 10 ай бұрын

Working with horses IS dangerous

@robintuck6249 11 ай бұрын

Amazing job. ❤

@johnnorman1793 Жыл бұрын

Hi Liz.! it was good to see that you showed the warts n all of this video. some people would edit the bad bits, and just make it look like they were better than what they are. If i can make a couple of suggestions, i would put some shavings or straw on the trailer floor. Next i would use a longer lunge whip, and tap him on the base of the tail, right where it meets his rump, you will find this is much more annoying than other spots, and because the tapping is coming from behind them and not from their side, it tends to want to make them move forward to get away from the tapping from their behind. Best wishes from Australia.

@lizdaffner Жыл бұрын

Thank you John. Those are excellent suggestions. In my 2nd video I show tapping in other places. I guess I’ve always used the shorter whip, but a lunge whip makes sense.

@karenburrell2283 3 ай бұрын

@@lizdaffner Thank you Liz. That was a good demonstration and your communication is spot on for the horse and veiwers! Sorry if this is a stupid question but I wondered about what you would do when you got to your destination how to then not have the horse rush off the trailer when you open up the back? In NZ we tend to have ramps rather than a step down. Thanks for any advice you can give.

@lizdaffner 3 ай бұрын

@@karenburrell2283 Hi, I’m so glad you liked the video. When I have had horses with anxiety, I’ll sit with them in the trailer and wait for them to calm down before moving them. Don’t be in a rush. This may sound silly, but think about having a strong, calming, leadership energy and WAIT it out. If you unload them and they start rushing out. Stop them and wait. Then allow them to take a step and wait. Never have a time restraint for doing this. Look for signs of relaxation such as sighing, wanting to drop their head and licking/chewing during the unloading process. If I had a horse hurry out without being able to stop them, I’d immediately load them back up and provide positive reinforcement while in the trailer. Consider having treats on hand. Hope this helps!

@karenburrell2283 3 ай бұрын

@@lizdaffner Thank you so much for responding to me! I will work on this.

@karenburrell2283 3 ай бұрын

Hi Liz, I keep watching your clip so I can be really familiar with what I need to do and there are a couple of questions I want to ask you. 1) I watched another clip where the man tapped the shoulder and when the horse didn't move he tapped harder unitl the horse moved forward. You tap lightly by the bum but don't increase the tap but stay light. Can you explain the difference and what is best? 2) Who is the person you refer to who the tap and release method belongs to? I either don't have the right spelling or am hearing the wrong name. Thanks!❤

@mrs.c5471 Жыл бұрын

100% that trailer is way to small height wise for that horse. I wouldn't want to load in it either!

@lizdaffner Жыл бұрын

?? Never been a problem. There’s been a recent surge in people buying warmblood trailers by me because people “think” there need to have taller trailers. This horse can step in and hold his head in a natural position with room to spare. Sure if he throws his head up he’ll make contact, but maybe he shouldn’t do that…

@karenburrell2283 3 ай бұрын

@@lizdaffner The size of the trailer never entered my mind. I would have noticed if the trailer was too low. In NZ we have floats with ramps and they don't look as roomy as your trailer.

@madeleindevilliers2530 Жыл бұрын

Wonderfull. Will try that. Thanks

@RG-mk9fn Жыл бұрын

Awesome!!!!!!!!!🪴

@folsomtransport Жыл бұрын

Been buying metal plants from around the Arizona for my un landscaped new house in the northern Nevada desert. My neighbor is a fabricator and said it’s easy and you get better with practice. So after this video I’m buying a welder and going for it. Thanks 😊

@lizdaffner Жыл бұрын

Awesome!!!! I just made it up as I went. Good for you!

@michellecolby-zk8tg Жыл бұрын

Nicely done! Thanks again Liz.

@lizdaffner Жыл бұрын

You are very welcome!

@michellecolby-zk8tg Жыл бұрын

@@lizdaffner wishing I had your skills! We will get this eventually.

@patflynn3292 Жыл бұрын

great video your spot on thanks beautiful too😀

@michellecolby-zk8tg Жыл бұрын

Thank you Liz! I'm going to go out and work on this. I have a horse that does not want to go in. Your video is great!

@lizdaffner Жыл бұрын

Yay!! I have another video example from this year where I don’t explain as much and I just show how I used it on a horse that had never loaded before. 👍🏼

@michellecolby-zk8tg Жыл бұрын

@lizdaffner - cool! I will check it out. Will let you know how it goes. Unfortunately, we weren't able to work on it today. We will tomorrow!!!

@elementalpedia Жыл бұрын

Would be nice if you were closer to the camera so we can see.

@tracyjohnson5023 Жыл бұрын

I've successfully used this method for 30 years. I can say that with a problem horse that runs backwards or rears and runs back, I use a stiff rope halter and even a chain over nose if they're really ugly about it. With those horses, I do shank them when they start to take off backwards.

@lizdaffner Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the comment. The chain doesn’t make things escalate more?

@tracyjohnson5023 Жыл бұрын

@@lizdaffner No not on that type of horse. I always use a stiff rope halter with nose knots and a 12-15 foot lead tied on halter. The chain shank is reserved for the horses that have used rearing, running backwards and striking at handler as a way to not load. Many times they're also the ones who tend to suck back when tied too. I've also used my lariat as a war bridle if I think the horse might lose it with chain shank or if they've got a scar on nose already. The war bridle applies poll pressure which definitely discourages rearing. Sometimes just a lariat loop over their butt and a smidge of pressure gets them loaded fast. My granddaddy always maintained that problem loaders aren't truly halter broke.

@lizdaffner Жыл бұрын

@@tracyjohnson5023 that makes sense. I haven’t used a war bridle in a long time. I haven’t had good luck with chains, but I haven’t dealt with pushy horses too much. Just scared ones. Nice to have different tools in the toolbox 👍🏼

@tracyjohnson5023 Жыл бұрын

@@lizdaffner Unfortunately, I mainly work with problem horses that have been spoiled or gotten by with things because the owner didn't know what to do or how to fix it. I always do a halter lead/ground work evaluation before attempting the trailer. Most of the time, fixing those issues really helps with trailer loading. Thats my motto always good to have more tools in the box because you will always have that one horse that the tried and true isn't working for. Can you make it work? Sure, but I'd rather be able to pull out a tool that makes it easier on myself and the horse.

@lillianconnors8112 Жыл бұрын

This is great but for my horse anytime we get his front feet in the trailer he will just rear up and pull us out of the trailer so do you know how to fix that

@lizdaffner Жыл бұрын

Sounds like he has a lot of anxiety and might have been pulled in before. I’ve seen horses with that reaction when pressure has been applied to their head. Is he treat motivated? I would try to change his reaction to the trailer slowly with positive reinforcement. You can still do this technique but I would incorporate treat rewards. That’s not the same and trying to bribe a horse in. It’s based on clicker training where you help to reform pathways in their brain through treats/positive experiences. Don’t apply any pressure to his head and as soon as his head is in the trailer, give him a treat. If he puts a leg up, give him a treat. If he has any big reaction going backward don’t treat him. Once you can get him to relax in the trailer, you can follow up with getting his back legs in. You have to address his big reaction of rearing first. I would also apply more pressure behind him if a horse gave me that big of a rear. I wouldn’t want him to think that rearing ends the pressure. Does that make sense? This is getting into professional training territory though. I’ve never done the treat technique like this before but if it were me, that’s what I would try along with this. Good luck

@lillianconnors8112 Жыл бұрын

Thank you

@StefR-w2r Жыл бұрын

Love this! Nice work! What gauge metal did you use?

@lizdaffner Жыл бұрын

The base was thick 1/8 inch metal and the leaves I welded on were 18 gauge

@Alyssa-xw1on Жыл бұрын

My horse that has been trailered hundreds of times had 1 bad trailering experience last month. We were all ok but he was pretty freaked out. We did our event and went to load up to come home and he refused. It took us 6 hours to get him in the trailer, and my trainer even showed up. We eventually sedated him and pushed him in which was our absolute last option, but we could not leave him overnight in that area. Hes a 14 year old seasoned horse. We went back to square one with the trailer. I did some research and really liked your method. We are now loading and unloading like a champ again. We are gonna take some short trips to get him comfortable with being in the trailer again before we haul him over an hour away. I know this video is old, but this method works.

@larrythelogger6776 Жыл бұрын

Just got Maddie loaded and practiced loading and standing in the trailer 5 minutes. Did that four times. Been trying to load her for 8 months with no success. Your technique worked. Lots of drama at first but she finally knew exactly what she was supposed to do. Took about fifteen minutes the frst time. Thank you so much!

@lizdaffner Жыл бұрын

Oh my gosh! That’s wonderful. Yay! I’m so glad my little homemade video helped 🥰

@larrythelogger6776 Жыл бұрын

Wow. Thanks. Direct, to the point. So helpful.

@CP-kb1du Жыл бұрын

Awesome result

@loredelore7286 Жыл бұрын

Using a stick increases the horses anxiety. It puts a horse on high alert and is not necessary. It puts brace into a horse and by not allowing him to back up increases his suspicion and any claustrophobia that he has about the trailer and it makes him concentrate on the stick and then associate it with his dislike of the task. If you teach him to back away and come forward it works on his curiosity and thoughts and not the stick or trailer and allows you to keep it simple and clear. Teaching him to back up also allows him to know how to use his body both forwards and backwards in order to negotiate the step up. It also teaches him that you are in command of where he puts his feet. Most horses are not properly halter broken be forehand and it shows up at trailering more than at anything else.