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It's worth reading the recently published 'Against the Tide,' which is a collection of Scruton's columns. He makes this point eloquently.

I love how you incorporated John Rawls original position. I never would have thought about that connection.

How fitting, a poetic explanation of poeticism.

So true...

Isn't this an instance of the idea of the Lebenswelt? I.e the total of all concepts that make our life meaningful, but that are at the same time incommensurate with the concepts used in the scientific literature.

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Yes and no. If we wanted to be fully aware purveyors of reality here, we would have to acknowledge that while the desire to convey a meaningful holistic description that envelops the full gamut of emotions we experience from sexual attraction requires poetry, if you're specifically focusing on sexual desire, 1-10 is pretty much a universal rating system.

La agenda "buen vivir" es comunista y creada por Correa en su retórica y objeto (ambos fracasados para variar) www.researchgate.net/publication/321906170_El_pensamiento_sobre_el_Buen_Vivir_Entre_el_indigenismo_el_socialismo_y_el_posdesarrollismo

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I’ve been following Georescu-Roegen’s work since the mid 80s and Daly’s since the late 80s. I taught at both the undergraduate and graduate level at Utoronto bringing their ideas. It was very lonely work. Glad to have encountered this group and this podcast. Will try to contact Victor at York. Laurent Leduc

Ellie's idea to putting more effort into equality as a way to get to lower, sustainable throughput scale is promising. But I wouldn't put it at higher priority than directly reducing scale by political means, i.e. caps or taxes. Maybe put them at an equally high priority? Also thanks, Ellie, at about 33 minutes relating this all to the size of the human population - that neglected aspect of the whole discussion.

I wish I could learn modesty from Herman. From all of you, actually.

How wonderful to see you all celebrating Herman's life and work. It warms me so deeply. Thanks to Tim at CUSP and to Peter not only for the book but for the concise presentation of the basics of ecological economics.

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RIP Roger

What he’s saying is that In the end, life comes down to subjective evaluation of experience, emotions, and language

And then came Jordan Peterson.

Miss this wonderful man

This man's got poetic hair

Reject modernity, embrace traditions.

Where might one find the essays?

The world lost a genius

If the ability to 'think' beyond that which is known, or to even be aware of one's mental models, is a factor of intelligence, then any rational, fair observer would have to conclude that the video capture of this dialogue, clearly indicates that the participant; Dr. Folkerts-Landau is, 'quite limited!' In fact, the declaration of "no other way around," an innovate outcome , within the defense of such a narrowly defined notion of innovation was illustrative of just how disingenuous and lacking this person's thinking is/was. However, as limited as this person is in my opinion, the conceptually lessor (nearly meritless) comments contributed in the Comment Section here, leaves an unmistakably more meritless heightened empathic support of this person's arguments. And it's the dismissive, crass nature of the support that is even more disturbing! For me, the poignant moment of the exchange was when the notion of; "hubris," was mentioned.

Very bad moderator...

Sounds like the person who wrote this doesn't understand what "growth" actually means in an economic context...

Tim Jackson example of a guy who can talk for 30 minutes without saying anything meaningful.

Great topic, fantastic animation!

Just Brilliant discussion!!

I love the fact that one can say "our carbon emissions are going down, we just have to persuade the world to come along with us" ---ignoring the fact that most of the pollution and emmissions are exported abroad, mainly to Asia. Priceless.

Dr David Folkerts-Landau's introductory remarks (apparently laying out his thoughts) are a classic in mental gymnastics! Apparently, according to Folkerts-Landau, after the fall of the Roman Empire people had a thousand years (plus perhaps 200 more) living in wretched misery, like animals, then amazingly exponential growth took over based on the appearance of so-called representative democracy, private property rights and the market's allocation of resources. His view of the 1,000 years of Dark Ages is very Western centric, what about the preservation of Hellenic knowledge by the Moors, their mathematics and medicine along with their centres of learning, their books outnumbered the northern European's a hundred fold as did their sanitary standards. Islamic architecture and their technological abilities were also shared via translation with academics and monks that helped knowledge and technology to blossom in Europe, (not to mention the use of Chinese skills in paper, ceramics and the magnetic compass). Once appropriated the exploitation of those other worlds by the Northern Europeans could really begin! So Dr Landau can control his apartment in London via an app, but his views represent a small group of incredibly wealthy people who did not get up in the morning wondering how to pay the food bill or wondering how to wash the kids in clean water when all their local water sources have been made toxic by first world industry. The development of well-being in so-called wealthy economies is based on an exponential growth which exports their nation's trash, toxics and throw away consumerism along with a colonial carbonisation - REDD being one example of that, Asia's emissions are so large party because of the goods they make for Western economies, for example we just love having palm oil in all of our supermarket goods! Sadly regulation will come, thinking it is cool to be green is not sufficient, if we put off enforceable regulations we will walk into an authoritarian, desperate-measures version of control via governments who do not want their form of greedy, hierarchical, casino capitalism to change.

Poor Roger, surrounded by lefty luvies.

Almost every nation on earth has reached a compounding interest bearing credit saturated, impossible funding puzzle, tipping point. No matter how cheap more compound interest bearing credit is offered as loans it is failing to maintain economic stability let alone stimulation, due to the ever growing compounding interest demands upon already existing credit, of which much is false fundamental basis counterfeit credit. The owners of those institutions that have caused the debt saturation issue via counterfeiting credit are now absurdly being allowed to type more credit into their accounts, then use it to directly purchase companies and assets in what are debt for equity swaps, that are promoted as them injecting cash liquidity into those markets to break the credit lending stalemate. It is in fact another confidence trick that gains the owners of these institutions more ownership by false means of what they affectionately refer to as "the real economy". A growing consensus has now been reached that an alternative fairer way to administer the credit mechanism of the nation without compounding interest being involved is not only possible, but now urgently needed in the greater common good to break the cycles of violent inequality. The debate has now moved on to how best distribute a new non compound interest bearing currency originating credit with a better means of inflation stabilsation. These two articles below are the best of many hundreds I have read in regards of just how it might be done, to bring about a more social and environmentally just money system funding structure; Re-conceptualizing Money for a 21st Century Society. www.dailykos.com/story/2015/01/15/1357742/-Re-conceptualizing-Money-for-a-21st-Century-Society Social Credit with Demurrage realcurrencies.wordpress.com/2013/05/18/social-credit-with-demurrage/