I agree with you on the dungeons and wanting things to get back to more linear ways. I love both BOTW and TOTK as good games, but think they make horrible Zelda games.

I am personally not down for another open air Zelda game. I feel like it will always distract the developers from adding what makes a Zelda game special. A somewhat linear and cohesive story, memorable characters, permanent items and upgrades, chests with more meaningful loot and, most importantly, well crafted dungeons with great puzzles and boss fights. Also, what happened to link being able to play an instrument? that totally removes the charm a lot of past Zelda games had.

8 mins of my life wasted

This game is pretty damn great. I prefer the feel of swinging in this game over Spider-Man 2, it's just more fluid and fun. And Hulk Ultimate Destruction is another masterpiece from this age of gaming. These were games that just stuck to letting do a few things, but making those things super fun. Games now try to do too much, and most just end up being mediocre because of it.

My arrogant opinions. Shrines: you can reduce their prese 0:00 nce by 25%. All that energy could be used on the temple quest and the temple themselves. Armor and paragliders needed more character, or at the least taylor their abilities together. That frickn' dragon set is worthless, what were they thinking! Korok collection needs new rewards. That under world ( and 75% of wells) could be written off completely and they could have diverted the energy to caves . My last problem is with horses. Either give them more utility or just write them off.

I like series that take the core ideas of a more linear focused story, and make it open world(to better implement those ideas). Games like elden ring, halo infinite, and Metro exodus take their individual ideas (grinding to fight bosses, sandbox world, and survivalist) and the open world makes them better. They have the budget and the idea and there we go. We saw the same with bowser’s fury and Mario Odyssey, and it just made their games better. But yea, don’t make it open world if it isn’t going to help. I feel like totk suffers from that, just “do it because you can”, rather than “do it because it’s fun”

I was literally checking your videos while doing calculus homework when I saw this was uploaded 30 seconds ago. I like how you're not afraid of saying how things are without having a cringey right wing agenda. I feel like there's a broader trend of this kind of pre 2018 KZbin with actual integrity slowly coming back. Also I'm thinking of playing Black Flag.

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I was thinking the same thing because a link between worlds was a great game but this reminds me of what happened to resident evil after 4 came out then 2 sequels later the game lost its identity so 1 more game to go for zelda before the series is lost then rebooted from the ashes

Played Zelda from Ocarina through most of the rest, and I can say i had no problems the main story in totk. Sure you can find different pieces at different times depending on how you play it. But I think that's part of what makes if fun. If you can't follow the story line if seems like a you thiing.

It sounds like you are excited about the switch 2 but are in denial

this video was honestly really pretty good. just wish the editing was a bit more than just totk gameplay. i recommend you chuck gameplay of whatever you are currently talking about on screen and get some text on screen to emphasise key points and such. also at 3:00 you could chuck a side by side of survival horror vs action focused resident evil games.

I think Nintendo will still disappoint to some degree along these lines, especially the subscription service, but I think they're saving the GameCube addition for the Switch successor. The thing I'm worried about disappointing despite the rumors is the hardware itself, because the Switch showed that the hardware and pre-loaded software can be the bare minimum and still be a smash hit. The 3DS makes the Switch look like an absolute chump as a handheld aside from graphics and performance, because it's durable, it has Streetpass, it has a stylus, it had backwards compatibility, it had themes, the menus and storefront were lively, etc. The Switch's only advantage is also being a home console. You can stream it without modification. If the Switch successor cannot actually impress me more than or similar to the 3DS does in retrospect, I might actually just not move forward with Nintendo. If I see a Switch with just better graphics and performance, I *will not* continue.

Nah m8, until the remakes, Famicom Detective Club was a dead IP for over 20 years, if anything the remakes selling well enough to justify Enio being made means there's enough of an audience for Mystery Solving VNs. It's similar to how Capcom weren't even going to release Dual Destinies nor Great Ace Attorney in the west until the digital sales of DD said otherwise, saying "nobody wanted it" doesn't apply here with this specific game or genre.

Ngl After all was said and done I think TOTK failed at not only being a good Zelda game. I think it failed at being a good sequel to its previous game. I think BOTW was okay. Its not a Zelda game. Sorry. Its not. But for the sake of it it was a bold new direction that apparently paid off. It paid off so well its the franchise's first intentional sequel. Like this game was made with the express purpose of following up the last game. The reason BOTW succeeded is the opposite of what I think Nintendo wanted which is: It's new innovative fun. They found and really good itch to scratch and it showed with the marginal but noticeable amount of BOTW clones appearing. So how does Nintendo expand on their innovative formula. - A world that's infinitely bigger than its predecessor. More empty. Boring. The Depths is counter intuitive to BOTW's game play loop which is: "Oooh what's that over there" and leaving the beaten or intended path to get lost in other things. Can't really do that in pitch black and the theme of fear of the unknown. - Hyrule Builders with admittingly a cool idea but not very Zelda-esque. Zonai devices are a blessing a curse. For one hand I hate the TOTK gameplay loop so I appreciated just getting on a machine and skipping bullshit. Which is what the open world was anyways. In other ways you are so limited without exploiting glitches and parts hunting. Only 20 units to build with. Machines with moving parts can only go in one direction such as those with wheels which made operating "cars" feel clunky and not very fun. - And finally most importantly to me it not being a true sequel in both execution/gameplay and story. Guardians, Divine Beasts, the Champions (one of which gets a solid mention), malice Calmity Ganon. All of it is just forgotten even though this is the same setting as the very last game. You're done absolutely wrong in Tarrey Town. Even though you're its founder and benefactor. Nah F you. By all intents the town is canon because of the player but no one mentions this. Being forced to yet again live the essence of the story through flashbacks. Nintendo has yet to have the balls to let you play as any other character other than Link in a main line AAA Zelda title. This was their chance. Letting you play as argubly one of the most popular fleshed out iterations of the Princess and they couldn't even do that. Because the game has no linearity the story doesn't matter. You do the same exact thing in every dungeon with no difficulty. The Water Temple is just straight up a collections of puzzles in open area spaces. You do the same "remove X locks" which is basically a terminal activation thing. You view the same cutscene 4 times. Technically 5. Despite casting away the champions who are all argubly stronger than the "SAGES" Less absolutely love were programmed into their abilities. No reason they couldn't come with you. Giving Zelda a psuedo RPG element or just anything resembling a cool new twist to an expanding world that knows who Link is and wants to help him on his journey. I'm yapping but I think what hurts in TOTK was one game in my life time that I actually finished but I wasn't really happy with it. Take games where they rubbed me the wrong way and I just dropped them. Or they were bad or maybe they were exhausting so I put them on hiatus. No I finished it. And in the anti-climatic hours of the challenge I imposed - which was all shirines and all Lightroots - I felt drained and irritated and I wasn't enjoying it. It's thanks to my love of the series and the fact that this game and Nintendo games in general aren't hard. With 200 hrs invested the game was second nature so there was nothing to learn, nothing interesting, or new. I just had to power through. Is it the worst game ever? No. Not even close. But I'm definitely looking forward to more traditional AAA LOZ games.

Talks about how good Metal Gear Rising Revengance is but also in his closing statement complains about politics being shoved down your throat in games. Seriously though while I understand a lot of what you are saying, I think TotK is weird game to make this example with. Zelda has always been an action/adventure game where exploration was the key game play element and BotW/TotK are still very true to that. In fact the series started as an open world game and has had plenty of open world entries before BotW, it was just the first to have a world of that size. There are plenty of hallmarks of Zelda that these games are missing (three act structure, longer dungeons with a dungeon item, etc) but they are clearly still the same genre/style of games. TotK also was a step back towards the modern 3D style of games, with a more linear story (botw literally told you to destroy Ganon and presented you with some optional things to do on the way, while tears of the kingdom heavily pushes you to do several story missions before giving you the destroy ganondorf quest in the final section of the game) and themed dungeons with unique bosses that require puzzle solving to beat. And the direction of these games was partially in response to the criticism of Skyward Sword being too linear and that the formula had gotten old and needed a more radical update. It's not that I think all your arguments are wrong or you don't make any valid points but it's more that this video felt like you had an idea for a video and saw that TotK hate videos were becoming popular and decided you would force that idea onto TotK despite it not being the best fit in the hopes that you would catch the wave.

Right on all accounts. My issue with BOTW and TOTK is, well, "too much". Too many choices to make, too many places to go, too many small mechanics to master, and too many items to collect if you have any hope of actually getting stronger. I know it's an "open world" but there were so many vast stretches of empty terrain with nothing of value in them. Spreading content thin over a gigantic continent doesn't make it more fun to explore.

Glad you mentioned Space Marine 2. I've been having a blast with that game, and it really feels like gaming back in 2007.

Most modern games are open world now, it's why I say open world is overrated.

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Tears of kingdom is ass

I've been saying for years that "Evolution" in video games just means abandoning what makes you unique and what made people like you in the first place and becoming more like everything else. Sonic Frontiers is legit just AAA Open World game with RPG elements featuring Sonic the Hedgehog. Another example is God of War going from this cool hack n' slash to Sony movie game.

Long assumed that ratings are paid for from big publishers; I swear with out fail a side scrolling marrio has been given 10/10 everytime they're release they are the exact same game with a new skin? I don't understand how this took 7 years to develop. They sky bits were quite cool but just to add the depths which is just an annoying place you find clothes in and have a few fights. I loved botw but always thought the temples were shit and all they needed to do to make this game class was add 7-10 full sized dungeons you'd get in a traditional zelda n your golden. Instead they spent seven years making the depths and slightly changing the original map. I'd played btow 3 4 times easy so this got old real quick The dungeons where an improvement in that at least had they're themes but were still just as few and short The story through flash backs was sort of interesting but after every boss you get told the exact same story by a different character? And I think the biggest element missing from these new two zeldas is actually interesting npc that have a consequentially role in the game that has a cool pay, major's mask did this by far the best for me But the closest we got from these two was collecting wood to help build a town; other than that just random people Would tell you to fetch themsomething and they'd give you some rupees These games are so far from masterpieces its unreal I honest to God thought they would nail totk. Botw wild was such a class baseline to build from and what was missing was so obvious its mind boggling they thought , let's just double the size of this massive baron map

Its okay to want linear back but totk and botw are definitely masterpieces.

I don't hold it against any of the developers for trying their hand at open world. That being said, I couldn't agree with you more. None of us mind linear games so long as their fun, and open world games used to be incredibly immersive experiences that could absorb you for hours with a heavy emphasis on story and making most if not all quests unique. Now they're just a box checked in the genre list to hype and sell the game, but when it comes down to it, most of them are empty, souless collect-a-thons where a handful of quests are just rinse & repeats of the same 10-20 tasks from start to finish. I kinda see it the same as the modern hate for single player games. Like... From the gamers perspective not every game has to be multiplayer to be fun, and if it were to be multiplayer, most of us would prefer to be together when we play it. What they now would call couch co-op. But you know what sells more copies of a game then single player and couch co-op experiences? Online multiplayer games where everyone has to have their own system and a copy of the game. It's pure greed, and the greatest symptom of greed is lack of creativity. Hence why everything is the same copy/paste open world experience with a new skin slapped on it. At the end of the day, we're to blame for it. We happily lap up whatever they slide to us on the tray for whatever price it costs us. As long as we continue to do that, they can listen to compilations of our complaints like its a classical music playlist, laughing all the way to the bank.

To everyone saying my reasons for not being excited for switch (2) aren't valid, here they are. Reason 1, I have more options when it comes to handheld devices. Reason 2, I don't like Nintendo's current and presumed to be future online service. Reason 3, Nintendo seems to step into every console generation with weak hardware. These are all just My opinions and you're more than welcome to make fun of them for whatever reason. Again, I'm just some idiot on the internet with an opinion.

Ngl, honestly I think *Twilight Princess* is where the series was at its best. Sure, it was ahead of its time, like with the larger maps, more realistic graphics and a great artstyle (which honestly still holds up well to this day)

People who are not infants enjoying breath of the jingly keys wanted a new famicom detective club game, genius.

you are correct in most of your observations, but I think we should understand the Zelda devs have never been interested in developing a "balanced" or complex combat system. Sometimes I think they think that would detract from the exploration aspect of the game. Of course I don't agree with that sentiment.

I’m just tired of open world, man…

Meanwhile Final Fantasy are neither good games nor real Final Fantasy games after 12.

Well maybe you dont like the changes but BotW solds 33M. ToTK sold 20M. In the third place is OoT (that had been re released many times) with 14M and TP (the favorite for people that think that Zelda should be dark for some reason) is 10M . And yes, both TP and BoTW were launch tittles on the most succesful nintendo consoles. The difference is too much. If something, sales are showing what the majority of people wants to play. Just accept the reality and enjoy what we get or just play another thing. I also miss the old 2D Zelda gamed ( playing the oracle games on the switch online again) but I also enjoyed BoTW a lot.

Your premise doesn't match your arguments. Many of your arguments are very weak, precisely because they don't match the premise/claim. Most of your arguments support the claim that the Nintendo Switch is already obsolete, and it's time for Nintendo to change some things. However, how does this affect your excitement for Switch 2? It's like saying you don't like your old teared shoes as much because they're showing their age, but also claiming you're not looking forward to buying new shoes because the old ones are now bad. What is that logic? Makes no sense. If anything, these are reasons to be expectant of improvements. Maybe not "excited" yet until aspects of the new console are officially revealed.

Zelda peaked with Twilight Princess but I'm the Majora's Mask type

Who are any one to define what a game is , the creator decides that. If you have a problem making your own game.

A Link to the Past and Link Between Worlds are open worls and keep their identity. A Link to the Past is the game that hooked me with the Zelda franchise. Great video BTW.

what the hell do you mean "what's the point" in the thumbnail? lmao the point is better hardware, better display, etc are you stupid?

TotK's story is bad, Fs with pre-established key lore aspects, absolutely shatters all the Master Sword's reputation, unga bunga buff Dorf with little to no ambition other than "me strongest there is" uninteresting, nearly everyone forgot who you were despite this game taking place a mere 4-6 years after Wild, Rauru existing is an insult, no Fi, no breaking of the Demise curse despite it being falsely hinted being the case what with all the Skyward Sword PR this game got (I distinctly remember Skyward Sword being advertised as heavily linked to TotK somehow which, again, is misleading as on Nintendo's part), no dog petting, no hookshot spiderman swinging with the physics being suuuuch a driving factor in these newer Zelda games, no underwater exploration instead a damp dark smelly overgrown cave can't see jack, COLLOSAL missed opportunity to hitch the princess with her handsome knight in shining armor, no stakes since Zelda's sacrifice was reversed giving the story little to no agency or consequence, Link as a protagonist felt nonexistent feels like everyone else was the star of the show not the guy who's saving all their 🫏s, no Link backstory before any of this went down aka no Arryl 2 or Granny 2 aka NOT WIND WAKER, didn't make me cry like Twilight Princess, dungeons are STILL NOT dungeons (pulling a couple levers to open a door and then be treated with literally the same copy-paste cutscene at the very end with each champion? Yeah naw), sky islands hardly anything worth noting although they are pretty asf to look at, I was expecting a totally NEW revamped endgame super Saiyan master sword golden tier 4 legendary new hilt new everything but naw same design with a booboo scar and hilariously less powerful... hoverbike autobuild pales in comparison to THE Master Cycle As a game, sure, it's leagues above BotW but BotW will never be topped as a one-in-a-lifetime *experience* TotK was an overblown $70 DLC and I'm tired of pretending it's not. Mid.

This is so true. Botw is still one of my favorite games ever, but that was not only my first ever open world game, but it had the Zelda name slapped on it. Current Zelda isn’t the same. The current focus is barren open worlds with bad dungeons and a bad story. just hope that we eventually get another linear Zelda game again. Also I really hope Nintendo doesn’t just become Sony but with open world games, we’re already getting open world Zelda, open world Pokemon, most likely open world Mario, and even Metroid Prime 4 is heavily speculated to be open world. I just don’t want Nintendo to sacrifice what made all of their games good for the sake of chasing the open world trend

If TOTK had come out 3 years after BoTW, as a massive expansion/Follow up campaign, it would have elevated BoTW to a a "timeless masterpiece" but no, they wanted to give us BoTW 2.0

If you don't like it don't play it!😢

Ultimate spiderman was awesome man. I loved the comic book panels for the story bits. And playing as venom was awesome. His movement was fun. Severly under appreciated. But atleast we appreciate it

Echoes Of Wisdom to me looks like open world Zelda done right. See it's open world without removing traditional items or dungeons. That's all it takes to make me interested in the concept. So if they're still so enthralled by open world game learn from Zelda's wisdom that is wise for once.

Whole heartedly agree

I think many Nintendo fans justify the Zelda change simply because they wanted a Nintendo open world.

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I played Zelda since the Oot days and I think totk is a great Zelda game. I think botw/totk are solid Zelda games and a natural evolution of the series,you may call it trend chasing When I played Oot for the first time it felt like a huge open world back in the day. Wind waker really push that sense of scale and wonder that I loved too The linear games have better stories,dungeons and atmosphere and less copy and paste filler, I love em just as much. Zelda will remain on these trend so long as it sells better, but there’s still room for improvement. Having a smaller world would help. I think echoes of wisdom will give us a hint on what a smaller open exploration Zelda game can be when it’s more condensed.

You took the words right out of my mouth