Be wary of those upset who don't sound upset. They tend to explode

you mean FUN fact

No she didn't She just scared them

@@female-sz1fs she did actually

@@female-sz1fs in the manga, we can see her walking out the train with a trail of blood coming off her sword

@@nanatsu_kingvendedordepao7116 Exactly

They don't have a point, they believe that they are simply better, care nothing about women, likely believing women to almost be a different species. They do not possess proper empathy or have simply been raised so horribly that they are going to need years of proper therapy to get to a normal level. People like this exist and it is truely saddening

Are you talking about the magical girl Sho dated that this asshole 1 mentioned? If you are then the reasoning would be because her self esteem was so low that she couldn't bare to admit to herself that the only person that she really knew cared nothing for her. If she could get proper support systems and then leave him then she would need therapy for all the trauma caused but she would be okay and eventually happy. Though without those support systems she would shatter. There is always a way out for people in these situations but it is often not seen for a long time because being in these situations often sucks away any belief in yourself, hope to live a better life, and often cuts off your friends and people who care about you. WIth that in play it sometimes it's hard to see that you are in a bad situation much less that you can escape. It is saddening but very real and someone in that position can be happier.

​@@cultofnatethemagnificent5879Jesus ! It seems so...impossible, but to know it can actually happen...I-I don't want to live through that or inflict it. I couldn't live with myself.

​@@JabamiLain Well, just judging by this you don't seem like the type to inflict it. As for living through it. No one wants to go through that. You could live with yourself after but it would be painful for a while and require a lot of therapy. Fortunently some are careless(like this) and thanks to the internet are much easier to spot since they'll probably post something about how great of a guy they are and they are so great that after girls leave them they go to therapy because no one is as good(I'm not joking, I saw that in a tinder profile). It sucks, but in most cases you can't do anything. Some cases you can help but it gets REALLY complicated really fast and doing something wrong can make the situation worse. So in most cases you want to focus on helping the victim get the courage to leave. The reason you don't deal with the abuser yourself is because these people have 0 empathy and there have been many cases where the abuser has, or has attempted to kill the victim when they try to leave. Even if not physical they usually seek "retribution." In most cases you're safe if you're careful tho. If you want to know more then you can google stuff about relationship abuse, cycle of abuse, exploitation, that sort of thing. If you are interested enough the Johnny Depp/Amber Herd case is much easier to watch than most(because Amber's lawyers are insane, that and Amber doesn't have a case) and it helps show that it's not just men that are the abusers. While being in a abusive relationship is very, VERY dangerous and hard to notice when in one(due to cycle of abuse and absuers being so manipulative). There is always a way for someone to get out and being there for someone can help them get the courage to leave. Finally. While it is extremely tempting to punch an abuser in the face, snap their neck, or otherwise kill/hurt/or dismember them. You unfortunently can't do that :(( Sorry I'm trying to be funny because this is a very dark subject. Go get yourself a treat, this isn't fun to learn/think about.

Bro it's fucking CJ and Big Smoke having a conversartion

The way those young men were speaking actually speaks to them being rough and poorly educated individuals. I think it works, honestly.

No I understand that... I just think the localization is corny! Very hard to focus on the horrifying misogyny of their actual conversation, when someone decided it all had to be filtered through a "YO THATS WIGGITY WACK HOMESKILLET" machine. They sound like they're goofing around. Nobody talks like this, it's very unserious.

Idk if you’re in America but yes people like those two irl actually do tend to speak in hip hop vernacular

What hip hop vernacular do they use tho? Like yeah they say "yo" and "for real" and stuff like that but other than that...

This is pretty good, actually. And try the dub of the original Voltron, at least as far as Pidge is concerned.

No? Like, it’s good? Mfs for real out there thinking that every voice acting other than Japanese sucks lol. (I’ve watched madoka magica in Italian, and then in Japanese, but homura’s deeper voice to me it’s just much much better in Italian for example)

@@jacopomalatesta4913 concordo

Dub Sayaka sounds better in the movie version. She sounds plain angry here, but in the movie version of this scene she just sounds broken and empty which better reflects her situation imo

Just say you hate dubs and stfu

BRO THIS DOES SOUND LIKE BOONDOCKS DIALOGUE WHY WOULD YOU MAKE ME THINK THAT

@@probablyjinxed Now it reminds me of Class of '09. 💀

Bruh one of them sounds like the mario from hotel mario 1:20

I always figured it was intentionally left up to interpretation. Whether or not Sayaka kills them, it doesn't really matter. Hell, the only named character is a "Sho" which is a pretty common male name in Japan afaik. They're intentionally just 1-dimensional scumbags that reinforce Sayaka's despair and lead to her transformation into Oktavia.

​@@Aisubun i think that if she didn't kill them she might have hurt them instead...

mercy to the guilty is cruelty to the innocent -Adam Smith

I disagree after hearing them talk I was so disgusted I was glad she was able to shut them up once and for all

I don’t think she meant to it just made her mad and turned her into a witch from what I remember but I may be wrong

​@@poopee4992In manga she killed them

​@@munsmasanwarial2351Yeah, but, the original writer/"creator", Urobuchi, said it's ambiguous/up to the audience, so, it's either.

How was it ever funny?

I feel like you should leave that convo uncensored. Woman's struggles shouldn't be silenced.

@@tulipplant9317 Absolutely. They *really* shouldn't have chosen to air Madoka on ABC3 of all things if this was what they needed to do to get in on there, it barely scraped by with getting rated PG.

@@connor8292 Wait, this show is PG?

@@tulipplant9317 I don't know if it's different for the full set, but out here each individual episode was PG...somehow. IIRC the train scene was the only thing that got censored. edit: apparently the full series is M

@@connor8292 I never watched this show. Based on the scene, I thought it was an M rated show with kid main characters. Like South Park.

IIRC that's what she did in the manga.

@@connor8292 the manga was produced after the anime, since its a anime original. So she very much did do it in the anime as well, the manga just decided to cut the subtlety

​@leobastian_ The Manga is actually based on an earlier draft of Urobuchi's script, which left the end of this scene up in the air. (Note, the original 2011 adaptation. Hanokage did a redraw of the Manga to bring it more in line with the anime, excising all the rough draft elements.)

That's so sad

I bet that made his stomach churn. It sure would have made me nauseous hearing such dehumanizing language.

No wonder Gen is so cynical

I love how pro-women gen is, especially in Japan, like it’s so weird to see men like that

sad

@TartarosGeer234 and yet at the end, she feels worse about them marbles

@TartarosGeer234 Sayaka: "I hurt me, I also hurt marbles. I feel worse about them marbles."

Director Shinbou confirmed Sayaka didn't killed them in the anime.

She didn’t unalive them, but she probably made sure they wished they were wearing brown pants…

@@tsukihana7839 yeah but gen the writer said it’s left up to interpretation, and in the manga he helped write it shows her doing it.

@@PeachWookiee it’s ambiguous

I rather like the idea of them being terrified by her. Left alive, but gibbering messes…

Why wouldn't it? If I heard anybody talk like that in real life, I'd slap their sorry asses in the face.

As a BOY, this scene makes me very mad.

@@crweewrc1388 I'm a man. And if I ever had a daughter, I'd berate anybody who'd talk to her like that.

as a boy this scene makes me wanting to punch my monitor and i hope that after this scene sayaka just killed them or sth lol

the good thing is that this anime wants you to think/know they are assholes, its not siding with them. that said its still frustrating to watch XD

I don’t blame Sayaka for killing those jerks

@@bbfox188 it’s still kind of messed up that she murdered them

@@Justin-yt7piNot really cus in supplemental Madoka material, it turns out the girl they were talking about became a witch because one if the guys kept abusing her and dehumanizing her. So good riddance, those guys just made the world worse. On a side note: the conversation those guys were having is apparently a real one that the creator of the show heard men having in real life on a train and he was completely sickened by it.

Word of God says they weren’t unalived, but Sayaka made sure they were terrified. They would’ve left quite the mess, I expect. But I wouldn’t be sorry if she had ended them. And I just realized that this shows how a wish for an awesome boyfriend would go terribly wrong.

​​​@@PeachWookieeWord of God doesn't really agree on the men's fates. Akiyuki Shinbo says no she didn't kill them, the first version of Hanokage's Manga adaptation says yes she did, and Gen Urobuchi leaves it up in the air. Personally, I think Sayaka was too far gone emotionally to show any kind of restraint at this point, and considering the people she was cutting loose on, I'm siding with Hanokage on this one.

Jesus.

She was also constantly defending Sho, saying that all of his critics were "just jealous" of him. She defended him to her last breath. You could say that was Stockholm Syndrome, or you could say that she sincerely agreed with his actions and lifestyle even while being victimized by it. Really fucked up either way. I guess if there's any lesson to learn from that, it's this: Just because you're in a relationship, that doesn't mean that your love isn't unrequited.

​@@Sluppiewhat a fucked up but realistic story.

I could be wrong, but it seem like Inui have a pet kink.(as in she likes to be treated like a dog… sexually)

uhh no

no