hey, I'm starting with diy modules and I'm considering pcb designs, but I have a question about component footprints, if the component footprint matches with what I have to solder there, is good enough? because I'm overwelmed with options for footprints and they all are really similar and i don't know why would I care what do I need to take into a count when picking footprints? is it just the solder spots?
@TOILmodular15 күн бұрын
Great that you want start with your own designs. In general, you are right. If the solder pads fit to the component, that is the most important point. I suggest you check the footprint against the component datasheet, where you will find exact measures. Just make sure that the positions and distances are correct. The rest of the footprint is what is printed on the silkscreen layer of the PCB. I often take quite some time to search the library for what I need. I usually save most important components footprints in my favorites. BTW, I am using EasyEDA. Worst case would be to create your own footprint. I think, you can easily find tutorials how to do that.
@ChurroLightyear18 күн бұрын
I built this but I'm having problem with any audio coming out at all. I programmed the chip and im fairly certain both ICs are in i popped it all under my microscope and it looks solid. Is there any way this could be a problem on the control board I used the thonk one
@TOILmodular17 күн бұрын
I don't think that this is an issue with the PCBs, because I got feedback from others, who built the module successfully with the Thonk version. So I would assume an issue with a component. My first guess would be some problem with the WM8731 audio codec chip. Did you use the SSOP28 version or the QFN version? In case of the SSOP28 version, might it be that the chip is not ok? As I mentioned in the video, that chip is not available anymore from official suppliers. Maybe you got a broken or fake one? If you use the QFN version, there might be a failing connection with some of the pads. It is very important for that chip to be placed exactly on the pads. You might want to reflow the solder points by putting some solder on your iron pin and run once more along the chip edges. Another idea would be to replace the other ICs and see if that works.
@dtharmoАй бұрын
very good advices, already encountered a lot of problems similar to yours. Great video, as usual
@TOILmodularАй бұрын
Thank you! Good that the video is helpful.
@CircularMirror7Ай бұрын
Great tips
@TOILmodularАй бұрын
Thanks!
@malwida1022Ай бұрын
Nice! Is there a full track somewhere?
@TOILmodularАй бұрын
So far not. I just create background track on the fly for my videos. Maybe later I will start creating and publishing actual tracks.
@johnruschulte4891Ай бұрын
This is very good but if the noise selector button was a blend knob with cv control would be great.
@TOILmodularАй бұрын
Yeah, there is potential forward improvement. I just designed the controls as I need them. But you can enhance the design to your needs if you like. All open source at GitHub.
@h.r.terror9421Ай бұрын
Put me on the list of people who would buy an assembled version of this.
@TOILmodularАй бұрын
Sorry, but I do not sell. This is all DIY only, available at GitHub.
@h.r.terror9421Ай бұрын
@@TOILmodulari understand. Not a DIY person, so won’t ever have this. Was just giving some feedback in case you ever do decide to make some money off of assembled modules. Looks really cool!
@HanVZuluАй бұрын
Good tips about the SMD soldering. It's been a challenge to get it right for ICs for me, but your tricks might be what I need to avoid problems. Awesome.
@TOILmodularАй бұрын
Thank you. Happy to help.
@klodifokan8203Ай бұрын
Amazing. Maybe I'll try to build one.
@TOILmodularАй бұрын
Yes, go ahead. It’s great fun.
@klodifokan8203Ай бұрын
Really great module. Bravo.
@TOILmodularАй бұрын
Thanks. Glad you like it.
@ThMntnstАй бұрын
And here I'm sitting, wasting noise and a filterbank on windsounds.
@TOILmodularАй бұрын
How dare I take away your pleasure of patching!
@ThMntnstАй бұрын
@@TOILmodular Pleasure? - Watch me looking for a filterbank while realizing that I already used the one in question for "swooooshhh". - In other words, great module you designed!
@spotd23Ай бұрын
Straight into my jlcpcb cart. Thank you so much for the great work.
@TOILmodularАй бұрын
You‘re very welcome.
@garaughtyАй бұрын
Goegeous atmosphere on this !
@TOILmodularАй бұрын
Glad you like it. Thanks.
@djsoulfeggioАй бұрын
It’s actually quite difficult to find a similar module to this. I have some schematics, but now maybe I don’t have to build it. Lovely.
@TOILmodularАй бұрын
Thanks.I hope, it’s what you need.
@gregvittore5004Ай бұрын
Very nice!! It just looks difficult for a diy? Great module sir❤
@TOILmodularАй бұрын
Thank you very much. The build is actually not that difficult, if you are ok with soldering a few 0603 SMD capacitors. The rest is THT. Take a look at GitHub.
@RedMeansRecordingАй бұрын
I love this. I'm soothed.
@TOILmodularАй бұрын
Interesting. I did not really intend to sooth listeners. But I guess it can do that, too.
@raise-projectАй бұрын
A eurorack module to relax, study to.
@phpn99Ай бұрын
FINALLY ! I've been looking for a proper noise generator for years. THANK YOU
@TOILmodularАй бұрын
Happy to help. Actually, the noise generator part is based on the MFOS Cornucopia design. You should check that out.
@i_never_asked_for_an_aliasАй бұрын
Simple but more effective then i initially thought.
@TOILmodularАй бұрын
Yes,I am quite happy with the outcome.
@corticallarvaeАй бұрын
Interesting combined use cases
@TOILmodularАй бұрын
Thank you!
@GhostKitchenBandАй бұрын
Very cool! CV control of the noise types could be useful for adding another rhythmic element to the module. Maybe a gate input to randomize/cycle through them?
@TOILmodularАй бұрын
Thank you. Yes, controlling the noise switch via a CV pulse should not be difficult to realize. I did not have any need for that for my purposes of the module. But feel free to improve the design.
@kp8923Ай бұрын
Oh man I want to buy one so bad. I have never tried building a module
@TOILmodularАй бұрын
Give it a try! It opens up a lot of more possibilities. And it is a great feeling to have self-made modules running in your case.
@iancain6647Ай бұрын
Nice almost like an audiopilz intro
@TOILmodularАй бұрын
Looks like we are both movie fans.
@HikoveАй бұрын
Why aren't your modules on modulagrid?
@TOILmodularАй бұрын
My stuff is just DIY, I do not sell it.
@MonkeyBeats-zl6trАй бұрын
I have the Quantum Rainbow 2. Your module goes deeper, it has 3 different filters and 2 VCAs but why not a simpel attack decay envelop.
@TOILmodularАй бұрын
I think, my Intension was not to have percussion module. I only got the idea to feed the VCA CV with an EG when I started playing around with it.
@fotosdelviajeАй бұрын
That Rings patch is fantastic!
@TOILmodularАй бұрын
Yeah, Rings is just lovely!
@gobgibbesnimmerАй бұрын
nice noises. guess I "need" one as well :D
@TOILmodularАй бұрын
Thanks! Happy to help you with your case overflow 😁
@Jens.Peter.NielsenАй бұрын
Thanks for sharing. I would like to make the ATV module next to it.
@TOILmodularАй бұрын
Sorry, but I do not want to share my design for the ATV. It is available as a commercial module from Befaco -the Attenuverter. But Befaco are so kind to share the schematics for their modules.
@SidRockettАй бұрын
Love it!
@TOILmodularАй бұрын
Great, thanks!
@delfinigorАй бұрын
Thank you very much for the information and the beautifully presented video.
@TOILmodularАй бұрын
Oh! You’re very welcome. Thank you.
@crawlinggiantsАй бұрын
looking for some help with my build. wondering if there is a way to contact the designer for assistance
@TOILmodularАй бұрын
Sure. You can either create an issue in the GitHub repository. Or send me an email. The address is in the channel info.
@blenderbuch2 ай бұрын
I liked that chip in the Korg Littlebits synth kit very much! tKGAC7uERCg
@mixolydian20102 ай бұрын
I find clouds a very complicated module. I made one but i am not sure if it is working correctly. Did you have a simple way of testing it once finished? I have made filters and oscillators before and they were easy to make and setup / test by comparison. I jtag programmed it and also volt/ oct calibrated any ideas? Cheers for the videos.
@TOILmodular2 ай бұрын
Yess, Clouds is not really an easy-access module. You can start by checking the buttons and the correct reactions by the LEDs, e.g. the freeze button. Then send an audio signal into the module and check for any output. Check the attenuator (most left side knob). It should reduce the signal level, but not totally to zero. Send some melody into it, e.g. from a sequencer and push the freeze button to capture a sample. Play around with the knobs and check if you get weird sounds. Then things should work. To understand all this, you have to dive into the manual from MI
@mixolydian20102 ай бұрын
@@TOILmodular HI thanks a lot for this, take it easy.
@InterplainMusic2 ай бұрын
The grid sequencer, ? is it your own invention? two questions. I'm sorry. However, I really like that device. Is there a link to its Board? Circuits. Would you be willing to sell a board. This is what I want to use to trigger two CEM3340 VCOs I have.
@TOILmodular2 ай бұрын
The design is not from me. It is based on the Bindubba sequencer from NonlinearCircuits. Andrew from NLC asked me, not to share my PCBs on GitHub, like I did for other modules, since he is still selling them himself. I respect that. But you can buy his PCBs at the NLC homepage.
@karimbouali63202 ай бұрын
exactement le module que je cherche en ce moment :) est-il dispo a la vente?
@TOILmodular2 ай бұрын
Pardon, tout mes modules sont seulement DIY. Je ne les vend pas. Excuse moi, mon francais est terrible.
@samelec-cl7nw2 ай бұрын
sry once more, but i'm in the process of collecting all the materials from all BOMs you listed, to decide for myself what to build first. however, i will not be using finished PCBs, therefore i'm trying to find all through hole component equivalents for protoboard. i see/it seems that you used only through-hole components for this build, however the BOM has so many SMD parts, many of which i cannot find a direct through hole equivalent to, to the point that i wonder if you had access to another BOM/circuit? 😅 unless SMD components are soldered on the back of the PCB?
@TOILmodular2 ай бұрын
That's interesting. As I mentioned in the video, I had difficulties with that module. It just does not work properly. Now that you mentioned those Ceradiodes, I checked the MI documentation once more. For my module build, I just followed the schematic, I did not check the BOM at all. And I actually cannot find those diodes D9-D14 anywhere in the schematic. Maybe that is the reason why my module is not working properly. Can it be that the schematic is incomplete? Can you find those diodes in the schematic?
@samelec-cl7nw2 ай бұрын
@@TOILmodular i must admit, i'm a total noob with this still, i barely know the basics of schematics. i was just gathering all components used to a) decide what to build first and b) get an understanding of general components being used for most builds, so i can order components properly. that being said, after you pointed it out, i played "where's waldo" with the schematic and i also could not find the ceradiodes. guess i'll also stay away from it for now
@samelec-cl7nw2 ай бұрын
hopefully quick question, but regarding the polivoks vcf, what did you do about the original Russian ICs K140UD12? i cannot find the part, or an equivalent in regular IC form? did you use an alternative? please excuse my ignorance on this. also, did you build V1 or V2? i can only find the BOM for V1, but since there is a polivoks V2, i wonder
@TOILmodular2 ай бұрын
Actually, I did not use any original Polivoks schematics for that module. I found all the details at the DIY GitHub from Erica Synths. The link is in the video description. No idea, which version that was, sorry. But the Erica Synths version does not require those rare old components. Might be not as good as the original, but I have no way to compare. Anyhow, that filter did not turn out to be one of my favorites.
@samelec-cl7nw2 ай бұрын
@@TOILmodular thats the link i followed. the polivoks BOM (from the github) has the part K140UD12. which is pretty much only available from ES directly, and 3-U shop. so did you buy this part from them? or what did you use instead?
@TOILmodular2 ай бұрын
You are right. Too long ago, since I built that module. Forgot it. I checked by stuff once more. Looks like I used an NJM4250 IC instead. Don't ask me why. I do not remember anymore. But I think, if you want to build it with the original IC, you can get it at Erica Synths directly.
@InterplainMusic2 ай бұрын
Just built a VCO and a power supply. I used the ceramic capacitors like you have for the vco, but the power supply failed. So now i am waiting to a Transformer to come.
@TOILmodular2 ай бұрын
Too bad the issue with your power supply. I do not know how big your case is. From my own experience I would have two recommendations for a power supply. For my bigger cases (up to 168HP and 6U) I am using the Mean Well RT65B, just like many other DIYers. Some say, that unit is quite noisy. But I never really had an issue with them, and I already have four cases, each with that unit. For smaller cases (e.g. 104HP, 3U) I am using a Mean Well DKA30B-12. Quite handy for portable cases, as it can be powered by a standard PC power brick and a strong enough power bank. Maybe one of those fits to your needs.
@InterplainMusic2 ай бұрын
@TOILmodular I have seen that kind of setup. I will have another look at it. The one I built is a board with 6 3300uf and three regulators. One 12v positive and one negative and a 5v one. It had a 12v AC plug like power supply. It was the issue that caused it to fail. The plug got hot and failed. So I bought a Transformer 12vAC going to fuse it and put it inside the case. I don't have a case at the moment. I have not gotten my head around the measurements yet. I thought of buying two of the aluminium strips of that extruded type with the nuts in a track and putting them into a case made of MDF or something.
@samelec-cl7nw2 ай бұрын
i don't get it?
@TOILmodular2 ай бұрын
Can‘t tell you if you have it or not. Your cases filling up with DIY stuff is a good sign 😁
@samelec-cl7nw2 ай бұрын
@@TOILmodular lol it was a joke, just implying i don't see a problem at all with what you described
@TOILmodular2 ай бұрын
Yeah, one of the very few pleasant problems of this world. Happy GBS!
@samelec-cl7nw2 ай бұрын
@@TOILmodular for you as well!!! your channel is extremely helpful btw, thanks! :)
@InterplainMusic2 ай бұрын
Following your videos and currently constructing the clouds module, I would really appreciate if you could assist me. List the minimal components needed to power and program the chip. Having soldered the STM32 on the board, I would like to program it before proceeding. I appreciate your help.
@TOILmodular2 ай бұрын
Sure, no problem. For the programming you only need the main board, forget about the control PCB for that. You will find several caps around the STM chip to be soldered, THT and SMD. Solder the two 22uF, the one 1uF (both THT), and the five 0,1uF (SMD) caps. On the right side, solder the 8MHz crystal oscillator and the two 18pF THT cpas next to it. Below the STM chip, solder the two BOOT pins and the 10K resistor below them. On the lower left side of the PCB, you find the programming interface pins. If you use UART, just solder those pins. If you use JTAG, you also have to solder the 10K resistor. But I did not try out that interface. I only followed the schematics from MI for that. I used UART. Then we have to take care of the power supply. For that, you need to solder the two SMD 1117 regulators, the two SMD 0.1uF caps and the three 47uF caps next to them. For the power connection, solder the pins at the PCB bottom center together with the two 1N5819 protection diodes and the two 47uF caps. That's it for being able to program the thing. Let me know, if you have questions or problems.
@InterplainMusic2 ай бұрын
@TOILmodular Thanks so much for taking the time to answer my request. I know you're a busy guy, and it is well appreciated. This is my first MI board. I have started with the main chip, with it being the hardest, in my opinion. I thought if I could do this one, the others are going to be easy to do it with a cheap and nasty soldering iron. The resistors are well tiny. I love your videos and sound, some real talent you have.
@TOILmodular2 ай бұрын
Thanks a lot! I also do not use a very fancy expensive iron. The important thing is to use flux. Then you can solder really tiny stuff with some patience and a calm hand. Good luck with the build and have fun with the module.
@RobertMizaki2 ай бұрын
I want...yep, I would get real lost with this.
@TOILmodular2 ай бұрын
Yes, an addictive machine.
@RobertMizaki2 ай бұрын
@@TOILmodular Do you ever sell your creations?
@TOILmodular2 ай бұрын
Sorry, I do not sell stuff. Would be too much to manage. This is all just about sharing my own 2 cents of DIY with the world, paying back a bit for all that I found from all these incredible DIY sources.
@RobertMizaki2 ай бұрын
@@TOILmodular I can appreciate that.
@MeeBilt2 ай бұрын
Brilliant idea and implementation! Love it! ❤
@TOILmodular2 ай бұрын
Thank you very much, MeeBilt.
@mikenoface2 ай бұрын
sounds like a slowed down... effed up Benjolin.
@TOILmodular2 ай бұрын
Yeah, maybe. Like a blind or masked Benjolin
@mikenoface2 ай бұрын
@@TOILmodular I dig it! I have no HP left. lol
@TOILmodular2 ай бұрын
The curse of Eurorack - lack of HP. No cure available. I am thinking about building my next case.
@M_orcan2 ай бұрын
incredibly compelling design!
@TOILmodular2 ай бұрын
Thanks a lot!
@dww65462 ай бұрын
Absolutely cool thing. I’m just riding through space hearing the sounds of this phenomenal box 🤩👏👍
@TOILmodular2 ай бұрын
Yeah, you can get lost in outer sound space with it
@Psychiccleaners2 ай бұрын
Lol I use my whole system to make stuff like this one module is doing.
@TOILmodular2 ай бұрын
Right, that’s actually how I got some of the ideas for this thing
@obsidiananvil97192 ай бұрын
This is SO awesome cool!!!
@TOILmodular2 ай бұрын
Thanks, mate
@VocalChainsStudio2 ай бұрын
Sounds lovely
@TOILmodular2 ай бұрын
Thank you. Seems like my concerns that this sounds a bit too weird don’t have any basis.
@RedMeansRecording2 ай бұрын
Damn system is looking fine with that paneling
@TOILmodular2 ай бұрын
Thanks. I enjoyed especially doing the panel design.
@vurttv64152 ай бұрын
Want one!
@TOILmodular2 ай бұрын
Get it! But DIY only
@vurttv64152 ай бұрын
@@TOILmodular sadly I cannot build myself due to nerve damage, can't handle a soldering iron any more. I wish you luck with the kits though, it's a great idea and is well designed and implemented.
@TOILmodular2 ай бұрын
I see. Sorry to hear that. Maybe there’s some similar commercial stuff around. Or you can set up something like that with separate modules. Basically, the module interior does not contain any special units. Maybe besides the shuffling part.
@vurttv64152 ай бұрын
@@TOILmodular thanks, yeah I can achieve similar results, may take a few connections but that's the fun of patching!
@tunistdasa65882 ай бұрын
I see myself with just this module and a drum machine…be lost forever 🙂↔️
@TOILmodular2 ай бұрын
Yeah, I didn’t imagine before I finished the thing, but the ghost is really able to swallow a lot of your time, if you let it.