I think you are a little too weak. We need more harsh words in this world. Speak up and by all means do offend people! Offensive speech is also speech.
@geraldtoaster854114 сағат бұрын
it's fine for people to criticize speech for being offensive, and it's also fine to make offensive speech. but offering the critique that one's speech is *insufficiently* offensive is novel for sure
@gamingguru2k616 сағат бұрын
There's a difference between autogynephilia/autoandrophilia, and body dysmorphia. Trans people have body dysmorphia, and should be treated appropriately. The people pushing LGBT stuff onto kids are more typically like autogynephiles/autoandrophiles. Pushing sexuality onto younger aged people is associated with a lot of this they/them Body type a/b stuff. It's part of a long term grooming process. The child transitioning stuff is still all part of that. There's a reason why European countries are banning chemically castrating children. It's not a reversible process. That's way farther than just allowing kids to be gay or whatever. We don't let kids get tattoos/piercings legally, because they can't consent to it. Transitioning is way more extreme than that. There's a strong association with Trans stuff and victimization of children. It's lowering all tolerance of anything LGBT. This is how society is sliding backwards into intolerance. Body type a/b stuff slightly contributes to that because it reminds people of current real world issues. There are predators who disguise themselves as Trans. That's the issue that's not being addressed. People need to be allowed to call out wolves in Sheep's clothing. People with body dysmorphia aren't the predators and are also being hurt by this. The backlash will get worse the more Trans is being used as a shield to protect dangerous people. No reasonable person wants this intolerance of good LGBT people, but that's what current events are encouraging. We need the freedom to disassociate the good from the bad.
@demikava666319 сағат бұрын
when you said it was illegal to misgender someone in Canada, it's about workplace harassment. its about a person misgendering constantly in the form of harassment at a JOB. None of what you said mattered though. At all. When you said that it doesn't affect anyone. Your feelings about it have no bearing on whether it should have been implemented or not. The actual reason it wasn't polled is because of reactionaries like you who have only seen about it or heard about it from other people. And then would vote no on it because "it's stupid." Which means you would have to admit that while nothing would be taken from you, you would rather a small group not gain something, for no actual reason. and then "but I'm not allowed to say that, so..." but you did. You did say it, and were allowed to lol. But this is all just for content and not a big deal. Very cowardly. God damn
@geraldtoaster854119 сағат бұрын
absolutely goated comment
@williamneeley556820 сағат бұрын
I have to say that I strongly disagree with most of everything you said in this video. However, I have seen multiple videos of people who seemingly dont even play Runescape who made some quite downright hateful responses to this update. So I do want to say that while I think what you said is ungood, I do respect how you presented it relatively respectfully. I will just talk about one viewpoint you have that I disagree with instead of making a giant list. You mentioned LGBTQIA2S+ is about sex. While an adjacent topic to how people view sex and sex in the abstract, sexuality is not sexual. I think you can use the simple example of a straight married couple. They are just a couple with a guy and a gal in it. My mind doesnt go anywhere else if I hear about a straight couple. That descriptor of the couple isnt sexual in the slightest. I wont assume anything as to why your head jumps to actual sexual stuff when talking about queer folks sexuality, but I will say that it seems to be a double standard. I hope anyone who reads this will use it for some food for thought as I did the video and have a great rest of their day. Take care!
@geraldtoaster854119 сағат бұрын
I have always wondered this. The most homophobic people i've spoken to in my life almost always describe their disgust at observing gay people, because it brings upon them sexual thoughts - and im like, why is that tho. I'm bisexual, and so i'm attracted to dudes, but when i see two dudes i dont have sexual thoughts. nor when i see a man and a woman. im just like oh look, some people lmao. idfk it's weird as hell youre right
@Nathan-vv8zz20 сағат бұрын
Fk jagex and their woke BS!!! And for the record, I don’t agree with LGBTQ ideology but I still love them and they are worth as much as any other human, but I’m not gonna lie to them, the ideology is wrong.
@geraldtoaster854119 сағат бұрын
i dont agree with you but your love for your fellow humans is based
@atenchifan20 сағат бұрын
There is no such thing as non binary there never has been and never will be
@chrisjackson414122 сағат бұрын
You find it pointless because your gender/identity is widely validated. This change does not invalidate your identity but it does validate people who previously were not. I don’t see why this is something you feel the need to talk about or call “stupid”
@PTMG20 сағат бұрын
because it's a game change that was done against the will of the players the whole point of OSRS from the start (you probably aren't old enough to remember how all this came about) was that ZERO (0) changes would be made to the game without a supermajority vote (70%) in support. This change was made without this.
@taxirobot721919 сағат бұрын
@@PTMGoh boo fucking hoo cissie. The world doesn’t revolve around you. They have never polled changes that don’t affect the content. You weren’t bitching when they added the frog quest.
@@PTMG that promise was made on the basis that gameplay mechanics had fundamentally changed how the game was played and experienced. The pronouns that you or anyone else uses do not affect gameplay. And, you might be too young to remember this, but gender identity has been a conversation in society since society has existed and was actually a lot less controversial in many societies that have sprung up in the past few thousand years. But please, continue to patronize people you don’t know with an argument that isn’t particular pertinent to character creation. This isn’t new content, it’s an accessibility update that doesn’t change anything about how you experience the game.
@geraldtoaster854119 сағат бұрын
@@chrisjackson4141 this is nitpicky but i love the part where you say (paraphrasing) "you might be too young to remember this, but we've been talking about this for thousands of years". bro was born during the pleistocene
@Bladedanced22 сағат бұрын
this is so stupid get this shit out of video games and media in general, if you want to call yourself a Walmart bag do it in private.
@ryanomalley177622 сағат бұрын
The majority does not want this. Forcing your agendas on people is just going to make them hate you more.
@geraldtoaster854119 сағат бұрын
right. someday im sure youre gonna tell the story of how runescape radicalized you and motivated all the terrible stuff you did, and everyone's gonna be like "what's runescape"
@jheimala23 сағат бұрын
Fuck this pronoun shit and whatever theyre trying to push, its a fantasy game that is completely made up :D I identify as a hill giant so they better let me choose a hill giant character when creating a new account
@geraldtoaster854119 сағат бұрын
i think you should identify as less stupid
@TheBIGBahper23 сағат бұрын
why don't they like fix the bot problem instead of adding useless stuff
@CodyOwnedU23 сағат бұрын
Why not poll this and see the actual % of players who want Gender Identity brought into a video game? -1 cash paid membership.
@anthonyweston558823 сағат бұрын
This is a good update. It will make it easier for me to decide if someones a fucking weirdo right off the bat. I have no problem with how other people live their lives, but this shit does not belong in video games where the entire point is to play with people from all over the world without discrimination and judgement. So, having pronouns attached to your character immediately diminishes that idea.
@geraldtoaster854119 сағат бұрын
loving the notion that you vet players in osrs of all games. have you seen the average osrs player? it's all weirdos in here dude
@grimmow18723 сағат бұрын
i hope trump wins so he can ban this bs.
@geraldtoaster854119 сағат бұрын
LOL you think trump is gonna ban pronouns in runescape? very informed voter over here guys
@alexcherry477Күн бұрын
"KingCondor is a hypocrite and this justfies my bigotry" is definitely a take.
@BobmcjoepantsКүн бұрын
Well young body type A's, you know what to do. To Falador!
@surfingbilly9654Күн бұрын
great video and points
@hourparh587Күн бұрын
That moment when your unfortunately part of the lgbt "community" and want to 💀 yourself when you get reminded of it. Thank you Started up the game and it said yaaaaaaaaas and slaaaay in the patch notes doesn't help my self 🔪
@geraldtoaster8541Күн бұрын
this adds a new dimension to your other comment, which i replied to in a rude manner (sorry). honestly, if you are in a position where you are finding it difficult to accept yourself, you have my condolences. i know that social pressure, pre-existing beliefs and cultural norms, circumstances and all manner of other things make being trans kind of a nightmare, but i also think that's why it's important to normalize it. stay alive though please
@Cutest-Bunny998Күн бұрын
@@hourparh587 Externalizing self hate by being anti trans isnt the way. You dont have to be a stereotypical "slay queen" type of queer person, and whoever you are I promise you have tons of other queer people who want to know you as you without any overly performative queer stuff if you find that offputting. Just dont treat trans people bad to try to feel better about being queer, you wont feel better tearing others down. You would do well to find queer people like yourself irl and learn to stop feeling alienated by the Hollywood version of queerness cause outside of pride I dont know anybody who genuinely does that without intending it as camp.
@hourparh587Күн бұрын
@@geraldtoaster8541 I have nothing to say to you, ppl die all the time. Dont reply.
@user-hd5hn1mu4pКүн бұрын
ehem.... GAAAAYYYYYYYYYYYY :D
@beasthercules5807Күн бұрын
wtf
@Cutest-Bunny998Күн бұрын
It is an optional feature to help other people that doesnt hurt you at all. Does letting other people feel included hurt your feelings that badly? Basically suck it up, or maybe grow as a person and learn to be happy when other people finally get treated to the same level of respect youre literally so used to you that you've forgotten youre lucky to enjoy feeling like you arent being given special treatment. Trans people dont deserve to endure the complaints from whiny people who want to pretend that, because of their feelings alone, 3rd grade biology is somehow the end all be all of human medicine, culture, and linguistics.
@geraldtoaster8541Күн бұрын
just here to say i agree with you
@hourparh587Күн бұрын
You aren't supposed to feel special in a general sense. It's disgusting to me that people have a euphoric feeling when people use your preferred pronounce that shit aint normal
@Cutest-Bunny998Күн бұрын
@@hourparh587 You need to tell me if you're a he or a she (I leave other options off cause your obviously not queer) so I can start using the wrong one and refute your whole argument when it hurts your feelings and you complain about being disrespected. Assuming you're a man from the way you talk, you should put your big girl pants on little lady and stop caring about what other harmless things other people enjoy. If you admit that you dont enjoy being called a little girl then you are refuting your own argument that people shouldn't be happy when they get called the right gender, so I eagerly await you sitting ladylike and regaling us with whether you like it or not miss.
@geraldtoaster8541Күн бұрын
@@hourparh587 being disgusted that someone else is happy because they are being treated the way they prefer isnt normal
@jheimala22 сағат бұрын
if the only way you can feel included in a medieval fantasy world game is having your personal real life preferences shown to everybody, then you need to see a therapist. maybe the one who needs some growing up to do is you :D
@wilshiresКүн бұрын
Welp we've had plenty of inclusivity updates and the game is still in its prime. Stuff like this doesn't affect too many people and doesn't take much dev time. It will not attract more players to the game, nor will it drive away anyone except the most bigoted players (who we don't need anyway kek). Complaining about updates like this seems moronic to me and I can appreciate you at least taking a more accepting stance on this update than twitter and these other comments. Cheers.
@ryanomalley177622 сағат бұрын
It's annoying when .01% push their agenda on the rest of us. I don't care what you do. Keep it to yourself.
@AgeAwkwardКүн бұрын
It is really cringe seeing this make believe nonsense appearing everywhere. First time I was exposed to it was in Baldurs Gate 3 and it confused the shit out of me. Not sure why the rest of us have to put up with these changes to pander to such a tiny minority or whiny babies. I don't just mean this change but all the ones before it, change to Recruitment Drive, Kingdom of Miscellanea, the frog random etc... There should just be a tick box on account creation for "baby mode" if you want to play with all these changes.
@geraldtoaster8541Күн бұрын
youre old
@petakismyname4265Күн бұрын
watched 1:30 sec, i dont see how this update changes anything about how u play the game.
@frackybandit290320 сағат бұрын
Same, it's the smallest most inconsequential part of the larger update lmao
@alectricitiКүн бұрын
Once again the things we try to escape from in reality seep into our fantasies.
@geraldtoaster8541Күн бұрын
poor lil guy scared of the nasty pronouns :((((
@proudpatriot3491Күн бұрын
@@geraldtoaster8541 Nobody is scared. We just don't agree with it. Don't get it twisted
@geraldtoaster8541Күн бұрын
@@proudpatriot3491 nah u angsty bro
@Cutest-Bunny998Күн бұрын
@@proudpatriot3491 Did the pronouns hurt your feelings? Oh sweetheart, let Mommy kiss your booboo and make it better. Seriously suck it up. You cant stop progress; you all lose this fight everytime and progressives stay winning. Sucks to be on the wrong side of history but maybe losing is your side's kink, idk.
@grimmow18723 сағат бұрын
many play video games for escapism myself included.. the more of these gay politics they add, the less i want to play.
@geraldtoaster8541Күн бұрын
stop crying and just quit, this is a video game, it's not your life. go be happy instead of attacking people who have nothing to do with you and dont even know you exist. this is pathetic
@writhes7170Күн бұрын
Woman is always 2 and B because they consider women second to men. Very inclusive of them.
@jessaarnel14Күн бұрын
Wonder why this bigoted garbage was recommended to me? OSRS playerbase has boiled down to the worst dregs of society.
@jessaarnel14Күн бұрын
I can't imagine being so sensitive about this update. It's hilarious to see bigots triggered over something that doesn't affect them at all. This doesn't hurt anything besides your insecure egos.
@geraldtoaster8541Күн бұрын
i love to see them triggered, but i hate that we have to have this conversation at all. wish they'd just shut up, this doesnt affect them
@hourparh587Күн бұрын
Things like this physically hurts me people are affected you biggot
@AtaniphorКүн бұрын
you can't spell CUCK without UK, from a nation that is literally jailing people over online comments, it makes sense Jagex is falling in line with its Orwellian masters.
@Vic_Chaos_Күн бұрын
They already had homo pride events in vanilla RS, so this would just be the natural evolution. Jagex needs that Blackrock blood money to stay afloat and will sell out its own customers, I guess.
@dugoranges6552Күн бұрын
They added a small update that doesn't affect me in anyway and makes some people feel more welcomed playing the game. Literally unplayable ;_;
@Vic_Chaos_Күн бұрын
@dugoranges6552 the people who you claim didn't feel welcomed in the game will never feel welcomed anywhere until their brains heal, since they don't feel welcomed in who they actually really are. It's not normal for men to think or pretend to be women and it's not normal for women to think or pretend to be men, and it definitely isn't normal for them to pretend to be shit that doesn't even exist, like "non-binary" or "genderfluidultraqueer" or whatever crap they decide to come up with that day. They will either always be miserable or come to terms with who they really are and dumb fake pronouns in an old game isn't ever going to change that, end of story.
@geraldtoaster8541Күн бұрын
fr what is the problem here exactly
@BobmcjoepantsКүн бұрын
Its not this update, its not the last update. Its the raising of the bar. One update leads to another, and another, and before you know it you see nude pride parades in front of children. It's the slippery slope thats the problem - sincerely, a flaming homosexual
@geraldtoaster8541Күн бұрын
@@Bobmcjoepants presumably, you would not accept such a slippery slope argument were it leveraged against things that you actually value. Like, if I were a conservative and i said "homosexuality should be illegal, because it will lead to harm toward children", i would hope you could see the flaw in that. The reason slippery slopes are fallacious is not because there arent any low-friction slopes, but rather it is because the connection between the current position and the bottom of the slope are not justified. I do not see a justificatory pathway to support the notion that allowing people to have a greater set of options available to them for self-expression in a video game would lead to any negative outcomes, nor do i see such for any number of trans-related issues as you've gestured to above. In the unlikely event that you are somehow justified in your fear, i still do not see this distant possibility of hypothetical public nudity as justification to persecute and oppress vulnerable members of our society today.
@BobmcjoepantsКүн бұрын
@@geraldtoaster8541 if homosexuality was illegal, I'd not only say it's a slippery slope, but it's beyond disgusting and wrong. So yes, I can say one thing is bad and what you might say is "my view" is wrong at the same time But again, look at pride parades and how far they've come. It went from just marching with flags to full frontal nudity in some cities. Didn't start like that. Small things are fine, but it adds up over time. Come back to this in a few years and see where we are
@TearThatRedFlagDownКүн бұрын
I really don't think these kinds of decisions are made to make more money though, especially when games are failing left and right for implementing this kind of woke garbage and several studios have had to shut down because they implemented this garbage in their game and it wasn't at all popular. It's purely to push an ideology/ideological message. I almost got excited too, thinking they were adding more stuff to customise the base character model like base clothes and hair.
@Vic_Chaos_Күн бұрын
@TearThatRedFlagDown they are done out of money, though. It's just not honestly earned money from customers you're selling a legitimate product too, but rather Blackrock and Vanguard blood money.
@TearThatRedFlagDownКүн бұрын
@@Vic_Chaos_ This is very true, though with my comment I mostly meant that it's not done to make money off players or sales.
@mangoman2152Күн бұрын
What possessed you to almost call that guy hannanie the n word near the end of the video? How does that even come across your mind
@LifeAmongPixelsКүн бұрын
i play games to escape reality, time to swap to black tar heroin
@abbadonvr9045Күн бұрын
non-trans opinion disregarded
@Vic_Chaos_Күн бұрын
@abbadonvs9045 why? It's literally the only opinions that matter.
@aquaboyfaКүн бұрын
that's a stupid take, even stupider than this guys takes
@geraldtoaster8541Күн бұрын
based
@Satyr4215 сағат бұрын
Very "inclusive" of you. Now go back to the Gulag, comrade.
@Satyr4215 сағат бұрын
@@geraldtoaster8541 Totalitarian. You do realize Marxist dictators always purge their revolutionaries, right? Three times guess who is about to meet Josef Stalin in the afterlife.
@FAUXCUSpdКүн бұрын
literally the only people freaking out over this are the 30 year old millennials who are too utterly lost in the alt-right pipeline suckling the teet of the fake narrative that's been created around trans/lgbt people. because the fact of the matter is there's significantly more priests and straight people who are pedophiles and sexual abusers.
@geraldtoaster8541Күн бұрын
TRUEE
@EdNeatonКүн бұрын
Show me on the doll where the character customisation options hurt you 😂 Jfc what a bunch of crying children.
@M1A2_Abrams_MBTКүн бұрын
Money talks. Stop paying for membership and play a different game.
@geraldtoaster8541Күн бұрын
if all the bigots left osrs i would play more no lie
@Satyr4215 сағат бұрын
@@geraldtoaster8541 If all the "bigots" left about 99.99% of the playerbase would be gone.
@beardalaxyКүн бұрын
2009scape anyone
@sup_my_bwanaКүн бұрын
Give these rats an inch and they take a mile. Every. Time. 🐀
@geraldtoaster8541Күн бұрын
me and the rest of my rat gang are going to eat every crumb in your cupboard, be warned
@GriefsFacadeКүн бұрын
Keep this woke crap out of our games
@geraldtoaster8541Күн бұрын
im going to vote for more woke!!!!!!! you will be shaking in your boots mister
@GriefsFacade17 сағат бұрын
@@geraldtoaster8541 did you just assume my gender?
@geraldtoaster854116 сағат бұрын
@@GriefsFacade woah, vintage reply! so 2016
@demikava666316 сағат бұрын
you'll be ok <3
@ayamehachimitsuКүн бұрын
to the hanannie situation, you are just doing the same thing hes doing but you aren't even insulting condor, you are insulting his friend. if you you were just calling king condor an insult then sure fair game and it would make sense. context matters here, would this in turn allow hanannie to call you the r word because you know they don't identify that way but you say it anyway?
@ayamehachimitsuКүн бұрын
its not illegal to misgender in general in canada, it's workplace discrimination, an employee knowingly misgendering someone in the workplace. It's the same thing before the extension if you continuesly call a man a woman in the workplace when you know otherwise. You can't refuse to hire or fire just because someone is a man, woman, or trans.
@geraldtoaster8541Күн бұрын
based and correct
@hourparh587Күн бұрын
People are sent to be reeducated let that sink in does that remind you of something else from history
@ayamehachimitsuКүн бұрын
@@hourparh587 No idea what you're talking about
@QuadPlaythroughКүн бұрын
@@hourparh587 Don't believe what you hear on the internet - assuming you're talking about Jordan Peterson, no one was reeducated. The courts simply ruled that the governing body for his profession (which is a private organization) is allowed to force him to take a course if he wants to stay accredited with them. It's a private organization enforcing that, and they have every right to have their own standards of conduct.
@ayamehachimitsuКүн бұрын
I don't really care as long as it doesn't change content. Very small change that I don't think needs a poll.
@Tyro555Күн бұрын
More character customization is almost never a bad thing, don't understand the hate from the weirdos.
@alyniureКүн бұрын
Perhaps if you watch the video you will understand my viewpoint, I assume you commented without watching.
@Lyoko42oКүн бұрын
@@alyniurestill don't c issue
@sup_my_bwanaКүн бұрын
Yeah, we’re the weirdos. Lmao
@Tyro555Күн бұрын
@@alyniure I watched what I could, it was kind of boring. The comment section is a zoo though.
@DJSexualWonderBreadКүн бұрын
This guy prob votes for tampons in boys bathrooms
@divingboardlordКүн бұрын
Cry more
@sup_my_bwanaКүн бұрын
Live less
@PyccoloSantosКүн бұрын
The question WHO is pushing this shit inside JAGEX?
@TearThatRedFlagDownКүн бұрын
Definitely someone who I'd want some "one on one time" with.
@Lyoko42oКүн бұрын
@@TearThatRedFlagDownkinky
@beardalaxyКүн бұрын
@@Lyoko42o that's how i read it too lmao
@TearThatRedFlagDownКүн бұрын
@@Lyoko42o 😉I definitely have a sadistic streak.
@andyyhimselfКүн бұрын
Sooo, with some research regarding who owns what: Jagex is owned by cvc capital partners, which was funded by citicorp, which is owned by blackrock and vanguard, which is the same company that owns everything facilitating the depopulation agenda.