haha, the GR moto exhaust comes with 3 stages of baffling. This is the middle one. With it all out its pretty damn antisocial!

Oh shit, didn't realise someone did that. The trail was relatively mellow.

No problems! Didnt know about that incident but they've done really well making a trail that's ride-able for everyone, with expert sections you can skip out, and then the trf for the hardcore boys. What are you riding?

@@stevenmoseley2210 tbf there seemed to be a lot more trail closures last year than there was this year, but you put that many bikes out on dirt there's always going to be accidents. The best thing about ABR is there's loads of people and marshalls/medics around to help unlike trying these things on your local green lane

@@mikesbikes4941 oh totally. I think last year there was a lot more 'racing' going on. Probably why the new restrictions in place. I know I was a bit more timid last year on trail and got shook up a few times by a horde flying past. It was still great fun but dudes definitely pushing harder

Ah nice! also did it twice on my 2015 xcx. Question, what setup you using on suspension settings? I've never really messed around with mine. Had a bout 9 clicks on front but not really sure where rear should be for off-road.

@@stevenmoseley2210 It depends on you and your gears weight as well has how you ride. The best thing to do is find a place you can go up and down a few times and change the settings (one at a time, front or back) until you are happy. Then don't change them as you will be used to them

@@Mattventuring Yeah, I think that's the best, cheers man

@@stevenmoseley2210 personally I set my 2016 XCA up with the manual settings for taking a pillion. It makes it ride so much better on the road being that bit stiffer. I dont bother adjusting it for ABR/Greenlanes. I didnt even soften the tyres (still at 42psi at the rear) but would have done if it was wet. The tyre choice is so much more of an important factor IMO, if I wanted to do the trf section i'd just want knobblies on, the suspension settings wouldn't make enough of a difference from my experience at my speeds

@@mikesbikes4941 Cheers man, I may just try that as a start position for testing. My front-end is currently set to solo-sport riding. Tyre pressure, same as yourself. I don't adjust. Currently on Mitas EO7+. I don't fully trust them yet but I think that's more to do with experience/skill level. Zero issues on the Trail (non-expert) and managed to get a bit of slide, purposely, on the gravel which felt great.

Do it man, or a test ride at least! I've had a naked, a sports bike, a cruiser, a pan euro, but the tigers been with me 7 years now, and the only thing I'm thinking of changing it for is another adventure bike. I can still play with sportbikes, still tour with camping gear, and also get to go ride offroad places like this. Such capable bikes these days!

Thank You!

Fair play! I have a close friend who has one of these now and he loves it. For me it wasn't quite it, and the one I test rode (I forget the year) definitely had a thunky old box but it may have been that specific bike or model.

good effort! Its a big bike on the tight mod 1 u- turns!

@@mikesbikes4941 yesterday made me remember how huge they are!

ha, was it you? I think that was it I'm afraid! Kept going by too quick!

@@mikesbikes4941 yeah I was trying ,Also blasted the red and white one around for a lap to compare as they are set up the same ,Cheers Guy

it were grand I tell thee! Spoiler, I didnt fall

I test rode the 1200 before I bought the 800. The engine is bloody lovely. 2 things put me off, my budget and the extra size. Its hard enough picking up the 800 when I drop it!

Is there a spectacularly miss the point emoji?

@@yassassin6425 Care to expand? Genuinely can't see what point I missed?

@@erj145jet Thanks for your reply. - To answer your question - that the FTR isn't really comparable to anything and doesn't really try to be, far less a V4 Super naked? It would be rather like me finding a video on a Tuono and suggesting in the comments section that if people "want their arms torn off" then they should give a Ninja H2R "a go". That's not to say that Indian aren't trying to tap into certain identified markets, but the FTR1200 really doesn't pretend to be anything else and has its own brand and identity - albeit a costly one. One of the main differences is that it is through being so inimitable, a very rare bike - I would argue for the discerning, and in view of its scarcity and unique looks, a real head turner. Don't get me wrong - the abomination that lumbered out of Spirit Lake was a hideous betrayal of the pre-launch hype. Indian had pledged to produce a street-tracker derived from the 750 factory flat track motorcycle. What they delivered instead was a bloated abomination and a complete corruption of the gorgeous concept/project bike that had been tantalisingly touted to the bike press and consumers. I have the 1200s race rep, and I have chucked approximately four grand at getting it to resemble the flat track racer that it purports to be. That includes a bench tune in addition to the cosmetic changes - although much of the alterations involved shedding the OEM junk with the objective of an aggressive spartan and raw motorcycle. It now looks and sounds very much like this, and as God intended it: kzbin.info/www/bejne/i3_VgneDj7qrgc0 Obviously, you can't market a pure flat track motorcycle and due to function over form, the awful compromises that they made were for a wider appeal and concessions to the marketplace. I've owned in the region of 35 bikes, including hypersports machines. I bought this because I wanted a timeless flat track rep. I love the torque and I love the midrange. It's surprisingly nimble, gutsy and looks like no other motorcycle on the road. If I wanted performance over prestige however, I'd simply take the R1 off the track and put it back on the road again.

@@yassassin6425 Thanks for the reply, a lot of which I agree with. I think that you may have slightly misunderstood my initial comment. I was firstly taking the reviewer to task about his slightly excitable reaction to a bike which is only 115bhp. Its more than fast enough for the road, but isn't going to dislocate your shoulders. The power delivery is quite soft (IMHO) and his comments may put off potential buyers, which it shouldn't as the bike needs no special skills to ride. What would put me off (and did) was the terrible fuelling and throttle, an issue noted in many magazine reviews. There is just no excuse for selling expensive machines which don't fuel properly. If KTM and Ducati can make 170bhp twins with good manners, Indian should too. BTW, I ride a D 939 Supersport which is 113bhp, so a good comparison, rather than a V4 which may may have thought. The SSS is just better in every dynamic way, it even comes as a Monster 937 which is more similar to the FTR stylistically. Whether the FTR is unique on the road is kind of true in that it is Flat Tracker-esque. Your brilliant attached video showed the full fat version and I can understand why you'd want to try and recreate that. But as it stands on the dealer showroom floor I think the FTR has more in common with the Duc Monsters or a BMW r1200 in that it is really just a big naked wearing an Indian style suit. I would say that it was also like my old Aprilia 1200 Dursoduro but that bike had a much better engine and ecu. Sadly Euro emissions killed it. The great thing about motorcycles today is the variety available. Something for everyone and the FTR has a niche to fill. But, acknowledging that it is quite a good bike, it isn't good enough against the competition unless only that certain Indian style will do.

@@erj145jet Thanks for your reply Alan. I was largely focussing on the comparisons which you were making which I would contend aren't that valid. It's worth noting that Indian claim 121Bhp, but that's never a been meaningful measure to me. I prefer to look at torque and the FTR puts out a healthy 88.5ftlb which equates to a lot of grunt. I'm not sure what you test rode, it's possible that showroom models are restricted in some way (although I can't think why) - or perhaps it's simply another example of the emasculation of the '22 version. This is anything but a lame motorcycle. When I first test rode my 2021 model (the original 2019 version that I went on to buy), it was savage. I flashed it with a rather basic Dynojet tune - the throttle was snatchy, aggressive and you couldn't keep the front end down. I don't mind that, but prefer to clutch it up and found myself pulling unintentional power wheelies if I was slightly over zealous in lower gears. Significantly though, this bike was anything but underwhelming in terms of power - so your OP left me somewhat bemused. Where I agree with you entirely, is the shocking stock fuelling. This thing was borderline unrideable below 75°. Couldn't warm it up in the morning when not working from home, because it takes five minutes and with an exhaust as loud as it was (this is even louder now) that wouldn't go down well at 6.30am. - so I had to take my chances and ride the thing. Used to take at least five miles to start behaving. Before that it would stall - so violently on one occasion that I thought it had simultaneously given me whiplash and put my back out - and jerk and judder so intensely that one morning it went onto one pot and the engine management light came on. Absolute fucking liability. It was like riding a wild bull. Removed the ECU - sent it of for a Lloyd'z V6 bench tune - after which, jumped on for a test ride straight from cold, instead of the usual half a dozen cranks, started immediately. Pulled off, tensed up and tentative ready for the bucking bronco ride...smooth as butter. Linear throttle, sharp, no irritable snatchiness, but fluid and immediate. Suddenly I'm riding a normal bike. It's as though a Priest, swinging the incense burner, has sprinkled it with holy water recited the Athanasian Creed and performed an exorcism ritual. The things still a beast, but a tamed one and thankfully one that isn't trying to kill me anymore. Fuelled up, went for a fifteen mile ride. The cacophony on the overrun has gone from an artillery barrage to the occasional bunker buster scale backfire. It stifles its cackling politely on closed throttle as opposed to the peels of thunder that it used to produce and it pulls...hard. Only thing is, the new baffle-less Toce exhaust is at least twenty dBs louder than the previous one - and instead of that gorgeous deep booming throb of a twin, it sounds angrier, more rasping, racier and raw which belies the newly refined machine beneath me. Most importantly, I installed this tune, not for a pronounced increase power as some seem to expect (yeah, you can immediately detect the improvement to peak power, but a I said, it's the monster torque that attracts me - and that's now far more useable) - but to remedy the utterly abysmal fuelling you refer. The bike is smoother all round and the greatest enhancement is the throttle response. It has also eliminated most of the non-commanded throttle "blips" are still there, but the surging/throttle hunting, and cold start and cutting out problems have gone. In tandem with the Toce low mount full exhaust system, feels altogether like a different motorcycle. It's almost taken the challenge out of it!

Fully on my list of 'to-dos'!

Would love to see some videos about how you build your bikes!

Cheers Stuart! Look forward to it!

Fair comment. I found all the staff there pleasant and helpful but I haven't bought a bike from them or tried to

So you had a bad expeience.It,s a pity you don't say what that was and also,your lack of back-up in your accusation that they have a terrible reputation.

UTT I was riding an ER6F and it was in for a service. I was looking to upgrade to a bigger capacity bike and looking at a Z1000SX. The salesperson made a stupid comment about the 1000cc being too big for me. Really unprofessional.

Hey man, great to meet you!

Its only meant in good humour, I've been a cyclist since my teens, used to race offroad and still have numerous pedalbikes in the garage. I'm a fan of anything with wheels you can travel or mess about on!

Everyone hates spandex granola eating cox sukerz , end of story !

Hey, I've got the Pirelli scorpion rally STR on there currently. Really impressed, very good on tarmac dry and wet, and good for gentle off roading. Only downside so far is the rear has worn relatively quickly so I assume soft rubber. I had the mitas e07 on there before which I loved but they were really poor on wet tarmac and I didn't like having to tip-toe about

@@mikesbikes4941 thanks for the info it's good to know

Cheers, much appreciated!

Absolutely! Jokes aside, while it can get you in trouble, it can definately get you out of trouble too. Sitting on duel carriageways on a 50cc ped is no fun at all!

Danger Bruce becomes Bruce the muddy Lane legend

@@mikesbikes4941 I’ll take that! I much prefer to drop my bikes at a standstill😜

And you! Sorry we got split off so mist most most of the returning group, keep my.eye out for you in the future though and I'll keep up with your channel!

@@mikesbikes4941 No problem you were buys doing and so was I. Take care! Murt 🏍 💨 💨

Sadly people are never as patient as they could be when it comes to getting around cyclists! You definitely come to expect cars moving into your lane when you're on a bike though. Cheers for watching.

send it to the po-po (after deleting the speeding bit)

@@rodneyhull9764 haha, might be a bit hypocritical of me! We all make bad calls when we drive at times. Best to just expect people to make them and keep riding and enjoying the world!

I genuinely enjoy it! Be a tad better without the big ol pa needs on though.

@@mikesbikes4941 Yeah, no boxes and riding early Sunday morning in the summer would make it seem like a different city.

You may have on my black water media channel, we're separating the two to make this focused on bike content

No? The ftr scrambler?

Nope, will have to sweet talk a triumph dealer!

Thank you! Back at you and returned the favour, looking forward to going through your videos!

Honestly, I'm useless these days, I use a satnav to get everywhere! That aside though I use a couple of different apps (kurviger and calimoto) that still manage to find me roads I've never been down in 20 years of riding in Essex. I found an absolute corker or a twisty undulating road near Coggeshall heading toward sudbury last week and I've journeyed that direction probably a hundred times on different roads!

Thank you! Lots of cool little vids lined up so I'd love a subscribe!

If only I knew someone that had one eh!

It's amazing the triple whine still comes through louder than the unbaffled pipe though