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Thank you man

Sorry but... I disagree! This is copy and color! Cheaters!!!

What's the name of the interviewer?

Can anyone, Here, tell me, When these, Kind-of, Kaleidoscopes were first sold, ln stores?

Просто потрясающе. Гениальное открытие доктора Хокни!!! Где взять этот прибор?????

So this is an audio conversation about visual effects. I literally do not have any idea what they are talking about!

Olá. Comprei uma vez mas não chegou. Fui reembolsado por vocês. O problema foi a postagem nos Correios dos EUA. Quando chega aqui no Brasil, não tem rastreamento. Gostaria muito de tentar comprar de novo, mas que fosse postado com rastreamento aqui no Brasil também.

There are quite a few holes in Hockney’s theory but that wouldn’t stop him from being so enamored with himself.

Can you share the design or template? Would love to give this a try.

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Lightening strikes on beachs were the first raw examples of glass, check it out on where did glass come from which was eventually developed into eyeglasses....👍

1609 Galileo first used his telescope could lens technology have been used for camera lucida...

Probabaly possible camera lucida obscura came from discovery of the telescope ?😃

He cannot know for sure Vermeer didn't copy directly. Some evidence seems to say he did.

Secret techniques are indistinguishable from witchcraft, hense keep his secret for the secret college. Prof Robert Temple wrote a book The Crystal Sun, about the 400 ancient lenses he has researched, going back to Sumaria and Egypt. One pharoah was found buried with "spectacles", which when analyzed by an optomotrist was found to be perfect for someone with astigmatism ! Crystal balls to magnify candles were used so women could sew at night before electricity. With the price of it, we might soon be right back there.

hahahahaha....Have to laugh at Hockney. Just cos you can't draw like the old masters then of course they THEY must have used mirrors and magic tools....hahahahaha.

NO usable Volume on iPad!

This is basically our parent's GIF way back then

Isn't it tedious when what is patently obvious is coerced into a contradictory discussion just to use up the time allocated for the interview ? It is not clever is it ? It is just boring and irritating, frankly.

Who cares still got to know color and a plethora of techniques then u got to paint it.

I remember my art teacher told me that it doesn't matter how you make art so long as you make it.

Lots more about David Hockney here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/r2TXdp6QhdaAiqM

Real sunlight has an infinite number of nuances, reflections and shade transitions, and the human eye cannot pick out and streamline all of them. Lenses and mirrors simplify this chaos of rays and reflections, organize it and create a specific flat image that can be analyzed and copied. That is why all the painters did not paint from nature at that time when the philosophers tried to determine the methods of scientific knowledge of truth, and the artists explored ways of reflecting reality in art. Some saw in lenses and mirrors a way of transferring reality to the canvas (the idea of an art as "a mirror of nature"), others, on the contrary, viewed these methods as "artistic fakes" (the Baroque idea of "an elusive reality"). Lorrain, who worked at the same time as Vermeer, is known for looking at landscapes through a special "Claude glass" while painting. Rembrandt, like all the other Dutchmen, painted "tronies" while looking at himself in the mirror. You can also find the mirror play in Velazquez' paintings. Many artists of the 16th and 17th centuries have also "revealed" their secret by painting distorted images taken from convex lenses (from Parmigianino to Elinga and Hoogstraten). One important feature of Vermeer's paintings makes it clear that he used lenses. It is the imitation of in-focus and out-of-focus effects. For example, in the "The Lacemaker" (Louvre), focus is visible on the embroidery, while the girl's face and figure is painted "out of focus" (maybe Leonardo's "sfumato" was also attempt to imitate this effect?). Of course, we don't know much about lenses from the Leeuwenhoek period, but I think a careful study of them will shed light on the painters' technique of that time. Anyway, when such artists as Turner and Monet began to paint in the open air, they already sought to depict their impressions and fantasies, and not what they actually saw, because real light cannot be depicted.

Even Vonnegut eluded to the classical painting style of having mirrors in paintings, ref. Bluebeard

As well, i believe the camera lucida is older than we think

Always be selling! Tim's Vermeer demonstrates clearly documented how a simple optical device would make paintings with qualities of Vermeer. No need for buying anything from you.

It is often said that there are no stupid questions, but there are exceptions.

C. Rose is such a lightweight...no wonder he got sacked, This is a major revelation of technique preceding the film camera (oscura). And we get fake 'controversy' so-called questions!

His art is awful. The reason he insists that there's a trick is because he can't admit to himself that he lacks talent.

Is there also chromatic abberation noticeable in Vermeer? Because lenses were not perfect like now and should have produced for instance blue fringes around white objects?

Excellent

this is not in the web page.

They are secretative because they know it's cheating. One either knows how to draw or one does not know how to draw. If one does not know how to draw one is not an artist.

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The most interesting and provocative thing David Hockney said was at the end with regard to how works are being made today, but unfortunately, Charlie let that hang.

The word left out of this conversation is "ego." Artists don't usually like to admit they had help. It diminishes their reputation or their "genius." When European artists went back to using their eye only - in the late 19th Century - Impressionism and Expressionism were born. Photographically real paintings came back in vogue in the 1970s when artists like Chuck Close embraced the use of photography in their paintings.

I want one too beacuse it was created in 1800's

Of course it lessens the master’s skills. But that's like saying taking a drop of water from the ocean lessens the ocean. I think a lot of the debate around this is from ‘experts’ who have been caught out without knowing how some paintings were done. Imagine finding out that what you thought was truth all along was wrong…

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Lol when the interviewer said ahh there you come

There are always people who like to blame artists, Johannes Vermeer lived more than 350 years ago, he was very poor and had to take care of more than 10 children, only one art lover supported him financially, due to all this suffering he died very young, was the camera obscura really so important, he cannot defend himself anymore ! Anyhow he made great paintings, they are beloved in the entire world !

Amazing

Quite cool dude

Its obvious if yoi cant draw free hand you use some device to help you copy your subject. Look at photo shop today.