So for those of us who dont have an oven with a digital control, is the reheat to 350 and quench in oil again at the first straw colour the same as putting it in the oven at 400 for 2hrs?
@HockTools Жыл бұрын
Tempering to 350F should get it to about Rc62. 400F will yield about Rc60 -- still plenty hard for most purposes but Rc62 will hold an edge a bit longer. 2 hours is way more than enough but there is no harm in holding at temperature for that long.
@LitoGeorge Жыл бұрын
@@HockTools thank you. So, it seems preferable to put the iron into the oven at 350F and let it ride for how many minutes (if we do not want to risk messing up with the straw coloured propane gas reheat/quench)?
@HockTools Жыл бұрын
@@LitoGeorge If you trust your oven to not exceed the set temperature you can leave it in there almost indefinitely. The "rules" say to soak for twenty minutes per inch of cross section so with our thin blades and knives, just be sure it's reached the target, let it soak for a few minutes or more and you should be good to go. If you find it's too brittle, toss it back in to, say, 375 or 400 for another soak.
@LitoGeorge Жыл бұрын
@@HockTools excellent, thank you. I have just heat treated 3 plane irons from the 1850's to 1890's. I'll be tempering them in the next hour. How would I test for brittleness (ie: too brittle?) Thank you.
@HockTools Жыл бұрын
@@LitoGeorge Take them for a test drive in some hard wood to see how they perform. If they seem too brittle you can re-temper to a higher temperature.
@ferencgyulafia Жыл бұрын
Great info...will get the Ron's book. I like that he has a lot of pictures. I'm a very visual person. My dad used the thumb nail test also. THANKS!
@hectorgordillo2 Жыл бұрын
Hi Isaac, I built a smoother with a 1 1/2” x 3 1/2” blade which works really well. Following your path, I would like to build a similar one for more general work. I would really appreciate it if you could give me your advise on the size of the blade to use and mouth opening. Thank you in advance.
@littleforest2 жыл бұрын
I recently purchased one of your blades for my plane and have one question about it: There is written France on the blade. Are they made in France? It's just for curiosity. Thanx for the answer and thanx for the blade. I really like it!
@rondo3652 жыл бұрын
That’s the best discussion I have seen of plane shape issues.
@chadlewis35153 жыл бұрын
Ron, thank you for sharing all of your hard earned information with the world. And thank you for the great products you produce. -Chad, Lewis Knife & Tool Services
@07roadking433 жыл бұрын
Too kool !
@ared18t3 жыл бұрын
It's Difficult to find a replacement chip breaker and blade for a custom plane so I'm not surprised they sell well
@robertumphres78483 жыл бұрын
Thanks Ron, hope you all are well. Great demonstration. Great for making your own little specialty chisels.
@Casiomidi13 жыл бұрын
Super video Ron -You mention Austenite (the migration of the molecules on heating) so when does Martensite occur?
@robc25363 жыл бұрын
The Martensite forms when the Austenite is cooled rapidly during the quenching.
@Casiomidi13 жыл бұрын
@@robc2536 Thank you Ron....so you end up with Martensite
@HockTools3 жыл бұрын
Yes. Martensite is the desired end product crystal structure of heat treatment. (Thanks, Rob C!)
@mainewoods18623 жыл бұрын
That was Awesome . Thank you Ron
@larryatha32213 жыл бұрын
I appreciate you sharing these. although I took metallurgy, it was from a professor who had literally taught the course 100 times and seemed to have lost most of his enthusiasm for the subject the quarter I took it. It was all about steel and we talked not an iota about non-ferrous metals. Then, the next ten years, in the design phase of my career, except for nuts, bolts, pins and inserts, I never needed to specify a steel. I always ended up working with AZ131B Magnesium (which is a tooling plate) or 6061 T6 Aluminum (very weldable) whether it was a 3/16" thick or 14" thick and virtually nothing else. So I enjoy learning about it, from my luthier blade interest.
@jimferrell17913 жыл бұрын
Thanks Ron. Hope you and Linda ar doing well. As usual, clear concise and very informative. Stay Safe
@DavidCharlesworth4 жыл бұрын
Excellent, what a joy.
@joelluesse44084 жыл бұрын
Fascinating look at metallurgy and sharpening. Thank you.
@frankdorion18434 жыл бұрын
This interview was the best discussion I've ever heard in over 60 years of woodworking on metallurgical considerations and sharpening questions for hand tool users . It was totally refreshing for its practicality and lack of bias toward particular methods. Thanks, Ron!
@chrisherald23384 жыл бұрын
Very enjoyable and informative.
@mwrcrft4 жыл бұрын
Enjoyed the video,I met Ron at WWIA bought the book and a Krenov kit after trying the plane you had at the booth. The book is a great resource.
@geraldpolmateer32554 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the service and products you have provided for woodworkers. It is hard to imagine it was 34 years ago I bought the first plane iron from you when you had a small shop. Keep up the good work.
@HockTools4 жыл бұрын
Hi Gerald! How nice to hear from you. Have you used up that blade yet? We have more, you know.
@geraldpolmateer32554 жыл бұрын
@@HockTools That plane iron is nearly gone and I have been thinking about buying some more. The good thing is I have several and rotate them. That way I can change the blade and use a sharp one rather than taking to time to sharpen it at that particular time. When I try to explain to someone how much difference there is in the irons yoiu make, they are always skeptical until I show them the results. Then so often the response is the same---wow! There were a couple of things I noticed immediately when I used the first iron I bought from you. They were the finish I could produce and how much easier the handplane pushed. It is hard to beat results. I am glad you make them, so I can do woodworking and have the best possible success.
@chavaflores30628 жыл бұрын
Very detailed, thank you. I do belive it is better to make a whole set of specific wooden planes to avoid a lot of sharpening during the workday.
@trusteeservice11 жыл бұрын
Excellent video. It offers good clear diction and lucid explanations about personal use of the subject planes. The expose about palm grip, fatigue and basic ergonomics is extremely useful in future hand planer design and development. This is one of the best videos on the net about this subject. If put to proper use it can be very useful in designing and building planes; both wood and metal. Thank you Isaac.
@jobranch111 жыл бұрын
Great video. Interesting to see how you use all your different planes.
@jeffreyforbes678711 жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed your video, Isaac, and appreciated the spontaneous, non-scripted aspect of it. This motivates me to try making a plane myself.
@SuperKwame112 жыл бұрын
Ron is nice to meet in person. Check with you local woodcraft store for one. Thanks for the video Ron. Hi to your wife as well. My son and i love Ya.
@Grimjau13 жыл бұрын
Thank you for uploading this video.
@murrmac15 жыл бұрын
old wives tale, urban myth, total fallacy. if you are working on site and you have to put your plane down on the floor, then you lay the plane on its side, to avoid the edge being nicked by grit, loose screws, protruding floornails, whatever. on a bench, there is no reason whatsoever to lay it on its side, and there is actually more risk both to your knuckles and to the blade if you do this. a wooden benchtop won't blunt the edge: think about it.
@SoCalRyeder15 жыл бұрын
that makes a sexy ass sound at 8:50. btw, these can now be bought in stores
@HockTools15 жыл бұрын
The blade is hollow ground which makes hand-held sharpening easier. The edge and the heel of the bevel set securely on the abrasive surface without the need for a honing guide. This results in the "two thin stripes" along the edge and the heel of the bevel. No need to hone the entire bevel. Our blades (and most others) are hardened throughout.
@marlon646315 жыл бұрын
this is best
@neffk15 жыл бұрын
Really nice visual aid. Comes across very clearly on video.
@OriMedian16 жыл бұрын
nice!
@pugwashsecond17 жыл бұрын
Another good tip to pass on is never put your plane straight down on the benchtop, you never quite know what might be there to blunt the edge you have just honed. The plane should be rested on it's side, or with the front of the sole supported on a strip of wood to keep the mouth and blade clear of the benchtop.