I am 200lb and freakin LOVE the Large Flow. Only paddled medium Gnarvana once and liked it but didn’t get me excited like the Large Flow. L Flow is floaty and playful. Goes anywhere you want it to. Stays high on the water. Has a longer water line in the bow for traditional running with big kick rocker in the stern. Have been raving about it since I got it a month ago. Gnarvana seemed to stick to the water and stay on line where Large Flow floated across the water and moved anywhere you needed it to.

Thanks! Seems like you get all of the benefits of the Mgnar in a L flow but you also get the playfulness.

@@mikecatura6210 the complaint I got about the medium and small flow is that it wasn’t the right size for the paddlers on class v and over boofed drops. But the large at my size is perfect and I like how it has that much play for boofing and stuff. Haha, stuck in cold snowy weather dreaming about paddling 😅. Demo one for sure

In the same boat my friend. Did have some nice pow turn’s today!

To me hatches are limiting. I can tie multiple dry bags and things that don't fit in a hatch or under a preshaped lid.

@themarcusallen I need inside storage for batteries etc. Not to mention a lower center mass.

more like a new wave sleek with more rocker, rails and the back foot cut off

I can't compare to the Steeze (never paddled one), but after a day in the Clutch on the Gauley--I can get it vertical on small eddylines, no problem. In the flatwater, I'm up to around 45 degrees. Not nearly as easy as an Antix, but fun enough that I probably did 50 stern squirts on my Gauley run. Hope that helps!

@@gordmccoll5009 In the states right now, check the USD prices at NOC or other online kayak shops: Clutch $1,649, Indra $1,649, ReactR $1,699, Steeze $1,649 at Calleva online. All about the same. This is what boats cost these days. FWIW these boat prices still haven't kept up with basic inflation since 2000. For example, many kayaks in the year 2000 cost $1,000 USD. Inflation since then has been approximated at 82.7%. If whitewater kayaks simply matched inflation, they'd all be selling for $1,826.60 USD. Something to think about.

thats what im saying!! I need a shipment asap!

They are only making one size, a M/L. Hopefully they will make a small and large. Idk why they would only make one size, especially with halfslices being insanely popular right now.

@@michaelcarter3149they’re probably still doing prototypes on those sizes as changing the size can result in different paddling characteristics.

We had a 220 Lb guy demo it on the Gauley yesterday. He seemed really happy with it. That said, I'm sure that it'll paddle really differently at 220 than it does at 150. The 220 guy yesterday said that it felt faster for him than his large Nirvana, but still very playable. At his weight, it'll be more of a faster, high-rockered half slice--maybe more forgiving downriver than a Large Antix 2.0. At 150, it's more of a creek boat that you can play the stern. Make sense?

I second this! I’m 6’2”, 250, and wide! I love paddling Jackson’s and I would love to get in this guy. Same thing with the waka steeze. I find that I’m just barely too big for these boats. It would be amazing to see that weight range be 180-275. Even boats that say they accommodate my weight seem to ride extremely low at the water line. I would love to be able to skip and play my way downriver in a boat that was designed to be creeked by a big boy

@@surftheearth We're not done making large boats. It's just that in this year's situation, we were only to swing one mold. Good news is that we have 4 other lines of awesome boats that all come in 3 sizes. I REALLY like the Rockstar V, Flow, Gnar, and Antix 2.0 and I'm stoked that we're able to offer all of them in 3 sizes. At your size, you should float the large Gnarvana well.

@@stephenwright8779 I hear what your saying, but what I’m getting at is that big guys still like driving Ferraris… give us the new half slice in a L/XL especially if you are going to drag out this mould as long as the antix

@@surftheearth I understand, but we can only make as many molds as we can afford to make at the moment. In this case, it was either one size or no sizes. The outdoor industry is in a weird place this year, as sales have universally shrunk due to market over-saturation, pandemic buying boom rebound, and consumer inflation stress. Rafting, guiding, and all adventure sports manufacturers are feeling the squeeze right now. We're committed to running a financially responsible, sustainable business that can be around for years and years to make more great boats. FWIW the Clutch isn't an antix replacement. It's a playable creek boat. The Antix 2.0 remains one of our top 2 best sellers in whitewater, and is still AWESOME. The Antix will still be more playful/fun for most people on most runs where they'd be comfortable in an Antix. It's much easier to play and still very forgiving unless you're on runs where you need a high-rockered creek boat hull. One reason we haven't replaced the Antix 2 yet, is that it's still great--even compared to all the other brands' versions that have followed us. It's my all-time favorite kayak in 27 years of boating. I'm still finding new things to do with it, and it still brings a smile to my face.

@@stephenwright8779 Stephen, I appreciate the honest, candid, no BS response. I look forward to checking out the new Clutch, but as you say, the Antix 2.0 is awesome!

They don’t. Otherwise I’d love to get a solid lime green boat again.

@@chrispaine2265 that's a small bummer. So many cool new boats out there. At this point I've only done used boats. I just can't get myself to pay the price for new if I don't absolutely love the color.

A lot of the time I may cut quick because I’m moving to the next point, but noted for the future. I promise the clips don’t cut right before anything that has the boat getting swallowed or anything. 👍

Just an optical illusion. This boat only comes in Medium.

All mediums, it’s just further back.