Definitely a higher pitched tone compared the Top Gear headers which is what I was looking for. Surprisingly, the Cargraphic headers also increased total sound volume by at least 15-20% over the Top Gear setup. I definitely like the Cargraphic headers more but I got a great deal on a used set so for the price, Top Gear headers are pretty fantastic.

Thanks! It’s pretty crazy that the long tube design makes the car significantly louder. I currently have Cargraphic catted headers, and while they’re really nice, my heart desires a higher pitched, Porsche racecar-like exhaust note (if I can’t achieve that I will probably end up selling the GTS for a 996 GT3). After watching this video, I’m not sure how much the exhaust note would change with the Top Gear headers…I think I’ll have to keep an eye out for a used set of the Cargraphic long tube headers.

@@risktkr77 maybe a little when starting the car in the garage but I’ve never smelled the exhaust while driving whether it’s cruising, stop and go traffic, or even stop lights.

@janssentodd2200 I've got the fabspeed race headers. I've got them being put in tomorrow. I hope it's not to bad of smell. How's the sound?

@ yeah I’ve never even thought of the smell so I think you will be good as long as you don’t have any exhaust leaks. Are you pairing them with PSE?

@@janssentodd2200 I have the PSE on it now, but I do have a VALVED fabspeed exhaust to put with it.

@@risktkr77 I would expect the race headers plus aftermarket muffler is going to be quite loud and I would expect some degree of drone. My current setup with cargraphic race headers is almost too loud under WOT with just the PSE. I would try your setup with PSE first and then swap out the muffler if you want more!

For steering, I found the GT4 calibration to still be too light. I do like the GT3 RS one as a good balance. The GT3 one just feels more proper for a sports car. No modifications to the PSE. This setup is great because the car sounds stock with the valves closed. So when cruising around town or pulling into the neighborhood, I don't disturb the peace too much.

The ohlins are definitely better and if my car didn’t have the X73, I would probably just get ohlins with the X73 sway bars rather than going with full X73 setup

@@quocanhphanho8969 if you look in my rear view mirror you can see my buddy in his 981 GTS chasing me. Next time I’ll get some footage with him in front!

@@insid3493 keep at it! This was my attainable dream car for years. Keep working hard and be patient, it’s worth the wait!

@janssentodd2200 thank you! I will!

Cargraphic race manifolds with stock PSE, 93 octane tune from M-engineering, aFe dry intake filters, X73 suspension, EPS is flashed to the 991.1 GT3 calibration, ferodo DS2500 pads and sebro slotted rotors

@@derjaxxer thank you!

@@Mrhappy33664 Thank you! Yeah, I am no where near skilled enough to drive this car at it’s limit! I plan to get some track time this year so I can find the limits without launching myself down a canyon haha.

@@janssentodd2200i respect that opinion a lot! Rather find the limit on the racetrack, where you dont endanger any lives. Probs man, you got a new subscriber

Awesome, Merry Christmas! Just picked up a '16 GTS and loving it. Still have my 996, too.

@@nickwilliams5163 Oh man that is awesome. We are having not so great weather here - had my Cayman S out for only a little bit once temps were over 32 - amazing cars. The GTS has to be amazing.

@@Leo-yf1gs by far my favorite modification. Even though stock sounds great, the new headers just completely change the experience.

@@wout-janwaslander2555 sounds fantastic! I look forward to more videos!

I didn't go the softronic route. I have a Cobb AP and had a custom tune done by M-Engineering and I'm really happy with it. They send you a map, you do a few 3rd gear data logs on the AP, and they make adjustments based on those data logs. I did recently find a gas stations selling 100 octane so I mix in about 3.6 gallons of 100 octane into the 91 to get a 93-94 octane mix. M-Engineering gave me an updated map with more aggressive timing to take advantage of this. Overall very happy and I have no concern with reliability. I occasionally monitor the timing corrections in each cylinder and so far have not had any problems with pulled timing.

Sorry, it's been sold!

@@janssentodd2200how much did u sell it for? Im looking around for one and want a fair deal

@@TekGeekHD this is about 45 minutes outside of Phoenix, AZ near a little town called Tortilla Flat. As a Washington native I do really miss driving those roads through the evergreens! Let me know if you ever make it down here, always looking for more Porsches to cruise with.

@@janssentodd2200 Absolutely! Will do - small world, didn't realize you were a Washingtonian, too! :)

This is up near a town called Tortilla Flat, about 45 minutes outside of Phoenix

Thank you! I do really like these filters. Pretty easy to clean since no oil is needed. There was a noticeable increase in induction noise and also noticed by my friend who has a 981S with stock filters. The GTS does have the sound symposer so in cabin induction noise is is a bit louder even without aftermarket filters.

Thank you and congrats! Can’t really beat the sound for this price point.

How much did you pay?

@@laxman90210 ~$60k but you can buy an 981S in the$40k range and get this same sound

@@SpicyHatchback only 40k more break in miles to go!

It's great for everything!

@@ralphsmit4608 thank you! Before I bought them I confirmed with my tuner that I wouldn’t need a retune and engine seems just as happy after the swap. I did notice a shift in the powerband further up in the rev range. Seems to pull harder to red line but you can notice a very slight decreased in the low end torque compared to the Top Gear headers.

@@janssentodd2200 Thanks for the info and vs stock? I have a 981CS with a Carnewal GT exhaust and am looking into catless headers next, my car is also already tuned, and am hoping to get a bit of a power bump from stock

@@ralphsmit4608 without a tune, there isn’t too much of a difference between stock and catless but after my e-tune I noticed a pretty big bump in power.

@@adamnixon7232 thanks friend, just experimenting with different recording formats and lighting. If you’re having trouble seeing, I have a bunch of other videos recorded during the day!

Thank you! It’s a joy to drive every day!

www.emdauto.com/products/j-style-oxygen-sensor-o2-spacer-with-adjustable-inserts?variant=43065835127043 - I use these on the "post-cat" O2 sensor. Seems to do the trick!

has to be coded out I heard.

@ nope, just need to use some spacers for the O2 sensors. I’ve gone at least 10k miles with catless setup and no CEL

@@prashanthp5448 I still have the stock PSE, it’s just the headers that have been modified.

@@UberMervinPhoenix area

Asking $10,000 or better reasonable offer

After two drives, it was absolutely worth the extra money. I was lucky and found a set of very lightly used ceramic coated Cargraphic headers online for a great price and will be selling my Top Gear headers to a friend. If you look at the equal length Fabspeed headers, they have much shorter primaries which can give some increased power in the low-mid range but you lose the top end power gains. They do sound fantastic but part of the fun with these NA engines is wringing it out and I would hate to lose some power in the top end. Another less important reason is that when I change spark plugs with catless headers, I don't need to remove the actual headers anymore (this is true with probably most catless setups). Fabspeed's design would make it pretty hard to torque down spark plugs whereas the Cargraphic design gives a lot of room for a torque wrench to be used at the 6 o'clock position.

Thanks! Are you also familiar with the European Racing Headers / GT-racing? Any thoughts on those? Seems like equally length for a better price.

@@wout-janwaslander2555 I did see those as well but there wasn’t much as far as sound clips that I could find outside of one dyno run on a 981 GTS. The design is also a little funky with more bends in the primaries. I’m not sure how long GT racing has been making headers but Cargraphic has been making headers for Porsches for quite a while so I had a bit more trust in the build quality.

We are heading up there this Sunday, you should join us! Shoot me an email at [email protected] and I’ll give you details

Not sure of exact numbers since it hasn’t been on a dyno but probably around 370hp or so. Unfortunately I only have access to 91 octane so that limits the tune a little. But the car is plenty fast and after about 8 months with the headers I have no desire for more power. The sound is amazing but not quite as high pitched as a GT3 and that’s because these headers don’t have equal length primaries. They are the exact design as the soul headers but fabspeed offers headers with equal length primaries that give it that higher pitch.

@janssentodd2200 appreciate the extended answer. Very helpful, when googling "equal length headers" I do get the adverts of this top gear decat header. But if I understand you correctly, that is false? So for the GT3 sound I should go with a fabspeed decat headers.

@@wout-janwaslander2555 you may be seeing the headers they sell for the 987 which do appear to have equal length primaries. If you look at the ones for the 981 generation, the middle primary is shorter than the outside primaries. When I received mine I actually measured them out and the middle is indeed shorter. If you watch a video of the 987 with top gear headers, it does have that higher pitch sound. Like this kzbin.info/www/bejne/q57caKiZj9Kkp68si=c1--GO-QWLgnVd1v But yes, if you want a little bit more refined sound, then fabspeed is a good choice. They are an extra $1k though which is why I settled with the top gear ones.

Do it, you won't look back!. 718 is awesome but can't beat the NA 6 cylinder sound!

There are essentially 2 differences but they are unrelated to the actual design of the PSE as it's identical to either model. First, on the GTS, there are a lot more "burbles" than the S. This is due to a slightly different factor tune. The second difference is probably more subtle but the GTS has a tube (sound actuator) that runs from the intake side to the cabin behind the seats and opens up when you turn on the PSE. This doesn't change the exhaust from the outside but just allows a little more sound into the cabin.

They still exist but occur more randomly now. I would say 10% of downshifts at higher rpms will give a few pops and I can usually make it afterfire once if accelerating hard and letting off the throttle quickly. My guess is it’s just true rich conditions where there is some unburnt fuel making it past the exhaust valves rather than the ECU forcing that rich condition artificially with extra fuel.

Nope, I left it in but I’m sure it’s not that hard to remove. I’m pretty thrilled to not have any CEL and don’t want to mess that up. Although I’m guessing J-style spacers for the O2 sensors is what is actually allowing me to run this setup without a CEL. I can’t image that taking out the defouler would make a significant difference in power.

@@janssentodd2200 good to know. I also thought it would be more hassle than it's worth. Which spacers are you running? Might not matter as I'll probably take the opportunity to put a softronic tune on as well to just clear the cel

@@colejordan8520 I have the J-style ones from EMDauto. But yeah if you go with softronic you can skip them

No tune required to drive the car with this setup, you just won’t get the increase in HP/Tq

Muchas gracias mi amigo!

I’ve seen that video! Kind of a shame he hasn’t posted a mod list, I’m also curious what his exhaust setup is.