Get rid of the audio buzz please

Good conversation, thank you.

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They were both mature enough to know what the purpose was in each other's life when you make it more than what it should be you make it what it shouldn't be and that's not good God bless you Oprah and Stedman

Make sense 👌 😅

He never married Oprah because his kids doesn't like her and Oprah didn't want the responsibility of sharing her wealth with his ex-wife and their children. Smart move on Oprah's behalf. And she's still Black.

I'm simultaneously intrigued and put off by this episode. How is this passing as scientific inquiry at the highest level? Honest question.

About consciousness, the following is simple enough for me right now ... MEMORY = what the human brain is really good at = language = culture = religion = philosophy = politics = careers = consciousness ... so STUDY MEMORY.

I would still go with the following quotes ... 1. Feynman ... Religion and philosophy is WISHFUL THINKING. 2. Hume ... It is more likely that humans SAY what OUGHT TO BE. 3. Wittgenstein ... philosophy is playing with LANGUAGE AND DEFINITIONS. 4. Nietzsche ... It is all MADE UP. 5. Nagel ... The will to believe NEVER ENDS. 6. Clifford ... To believe without evidence is ALWAYS WRONG.

I'm a fan. he's a brilliant person. funny how importance he places on IQ and talks about it endlessly during this conversation but neglects EQ, especially humility and agreeableness, which is more important for a successful career. i say this in hindsight because i too focused on my smarts too much during my career when I should have spent more of my efforts on building relationships with my colleagues. or became a college professor and just focus on intellectual pursuits.

Learning from a female? Gtfoh 😂

Let's see: 1. We title the podcast "The Purpose of the Universe", yet fail to talk about it. 2. We instead discuss several human beliefs (God/The non-existence of God) and give our opinion on these. 3. We mention at least a dozen concepts, such as Psychic Cosmology, something whose name escapes me, but essentially means 'Scientific Tweaking'. None of these concepts are discussed at length. Hell, they're not even defined! We're supposed to already know them satisfactorily. 4. We talk about the multiple possibilities of 'reality', including 'The Matrix' and 'The Great Electronic Game' theory, in which we humans are characters in a game being played by 'super beings'. We discuss at length Mystical States, Religion, and Spirituality, all the while confusing "religion" with "spirituality". "Religion" (religare: to tie together) is a human agreement on a set of behaviors -based on shared beliefs. Religion is 'of humans, by humans, for humans'; whereas "spirituality" deals with a relationship between humans and the 'spiritual world', whose most relevant inhabitant is GOD. These distinctions are lost on the podcast interlocutors. Oh, they mention many names to lend 'legitimacy' to their musings: Freud, Jung, James, and "a cast of thousands" of lesser luminaries, whose mere mention is supposed to, perhaps, take the place of original analyses and conclusions. A very unsatisfactory hour, indeed. I proposed a thought experiment in case the topic of "Universe" is ever revisited: What happens to all the energy/matter devoured by a Black Hole, i.e., where DOES IT GO? And is it not just 'exquisitely serendipitous' that normally serious scientists can posit the existence of an entity (say, "dark matter") to 'explain' the fatal deficiency at the heart of current "cosmological expansion theory". Oh yeah, not only the existence of (never observed) "dark matter", but EXACTLY THE RIGHT AMOUNT of this "bête noir" to save the current theory. As the Church Lady on SNL used to say: How conveeeenient!

Great discussion, thank you for sharing! Bohm claimed that the fundamental nature of consciousness is not located in the physical world we perceive, but rather in a deeper, interconnected, and underlying level of reality called the "implicate order," where everything is enfolded and interconnected, and our conscious experience is a manifestation of this underlying order unfolding into the "explicate order" we observe. This is in alignment with views on consciousness expressed by Schrodinger and Planck, all of which align with panpsychism.

It's courageous of Goff to publicly admit to being a liberal Christian. They are in the minority and dismissed by Christians as being not true Christians and dismissed by atheists as being unscientific. I like his stance of avoiding the extremes and trying to understand and integrate different perspectives. At the end of the day, uncertainty and not-knowing is part and parcel of life and it takes faith to take any stance. Even empiricism is misplaced, as argued by research quantum physicist David Deutsch in his book "The Beginning of Infinity", because he argues that we mistakenly believe that we are building knowledge based on what we observe through our senses, but in fact scientists have to apply a theoretical lens to even begin to explain and interpret what is observed. Dr Kaufman's point on "the opposite" of Pascal's wager is interesting. I once heard an evangelical minister claim that if he turns out to be wrong, he would not have lost anything significant, as he still lived with passion, love, purpose, belonging, service, and what he may have missed out on, such as drug use or free sex, was something he didn't value anyway. So I don't think Dr Kaufman's argument would stick with evangelical Christians.

So much brilliant food for thought. I'm comfortable not knowing if the universe has a purpose. I believe love is the most powerful force in the universe. BE LOVE Mystical Maynard’s Purpose Statement To love deeply, learn through creative curiosity, grow each moment, create possibility, awaken and mindfully serve others with loving awareness, gratitude and a warm heart. 🙏❤🙏❤

Thank you, Scott for pulling together this excellent podcast. Thank you so much, Madison and Kenneth, for willingly discussing your vulnerabilities. And a big thank you to Madison (and Kenneth) for relating your NYC 'adventure' which reinforced how crucial it is to have a caring non-judgemental discussion of your desires and needs and how to meet them in order to create a beautiful shared experience.

same planet, different worlds.

In the robots case the robot had a creator. Where do you get off acting as if the robots invent themselves. Is this discussion even rational? I don’t think so.

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Y'all know this guy was outed as a giant creep and possible sexual abuser in the New York Times right? And you still have this video on?

I like Africa conveys her words, It's like she's not running out of words to say.

37:08 - you just lost me "we live in one of the greatest countries in the world" uh , I hate to break it to you, but , not according to the rest of the world. I can't believe someone of your supposed intelligence, would say that out loud. The USA is a Sitcom on steroids, but its not really funny.

How beautifully said!! Inspired and nourished by this one! Thank you

This was such a fun show!

The title of this is an oxymoron if there ever was one. The two of you fellas should have stayed awake in high school science classes.

Beautiful content, thank you for sharing this with us and good luck 🎉❤

This guy is so condescending and rude to the interviewer. I was thinking about buying his book, but think I’m going to pass.

38:08 ideal LTR man: -The Ideal Man (for a date or romantic partner -Assertive Confident Ptysically Attractive (to you) Socially exciting Easygoing (not controlling) Sensitive Kind Prestigious While NOt being: Aggressive Demanding Dominant Shy Pushover 44:00 dumped make less attractive men Women dumper is less attractive Man dumper is more attractive 36:08 Two Different Routes to Social Status (Cheng et al., 2013) Dominant route: Intimidation Threats Coercion Hubristic pride Prestigious route(ONLY PRESTIGE MAKES YOU MORE LIKEBLE: Emotional rush of genuine accomplishment Confidence Success Authentic pride(genuine self esteem) 56:20 Advice for "Nice Guys 1. Dial-down your eagerness 2. Be more playful and interesting 3. Be more assertive 4. Be authentic, honest, and direct 5. Get out of your head 6. Show genuine interest and curiosity 7. Do good things for others not just to get laid 8. Be flexible/handle rejection graciously

I believe we create our reality, so why not think positively to create the best life you can? There are no mistakes!

Nice guys are not that nice. This sentence 'Nice guys ALWAYS finish last' rings a lot like vulnerable narcissism. Dude is fishing for crumbs to blame others and claim the victim card so hard, and sometimes he sounds butt hurt by her answers. She is navigating those traps like a champ. :D

Eyeore is in the interview, I keep hearing him...

I don't know if there are secrets to religion, but I have never done religion well. My main interface with religion was always mother, and people keep telling me she's crazy. Just because you can attend church for free doesn't mean it's a good place to be. I mean they pray for our leaders and sound moral and stuff and I can't criticize general morality, but there have been some religions experiments that have failed because they did not allow men and women to reproduce or interact as one example. As I was leaving a family dinner this season my Uncle brought up another suggestion for a new church to try... but why? I think I need to graduate to earning rather than learning. And surely my community will respect a good worker with a decent work ethic.

WOW. 10 OUT OF 10

I read Myths of Gender years ago and it's still on my home library shelves. I think about it from time to time when gender questions arise in the public discourse. Most recently I've been frustrated when hearing individuals well known as scientists make naive claims about gender being binary and taking it as a scientific given. In particular, Michael Schermer in a video on the Quilette youtube channel recently made some comments about Scientific American going "woke" and while I was with him for most of his comments, when he got to the subject of gender issues, it set off my BS detector and reminded me about Dr. Fausto-Sterling's work causing me to revisit her book and look to find this video with what she's been doing more recently. It seems though it's not a subject that can be addressed in a sound bite, and this is a situation I've found myself in a few times recently. It seems like some debates might be in order to shake up some preconceptions from certain entrenched scientific pundits...

I have never been attracted to bad boys, but nice guys are just as frustrating. They lacked so much confidence that they couldn’t believe it when I showed interest in them, AND THEY RAN AWAY!! Similar to Jim and Nadia in American Pie! 🤷‍♀️

Love Dr. Russ' accent!

THIS! Honesty trumps feelings ANY day! THEN you KNOW their reaction is real and if they’re being honest with how your dress looks,they’ll probably be honest in other aspects of their life,making their word,their bond-integrity!

Why is a man telling us what women want? Not even bothering to watch🙄

Knew a guy who couldn't really smile with his eyes. Only when something was REALLY funny and caught him off guard did his eyes lighten up. Every girl that met him thought he was creepy. Sad because he was a good dude, just guarded.

The entire framing of dating is wrong in this pod

2 losers talkimg about what women think a creep is 😂😂

Agreed. It’s ok to show vulnerability. The right dating partner will nurture and love your authenticity. Your representative (persona during early stages of dating) will ultimately be exhausted after a few months so just be you when dating and be confident. Trust me you’ll attract the right partner. 😊

I guess the order of importance is: 1) Height 2) Money and socioeconomic status 3) large skeletal frame 4) facial looks 5) confidence (real of fake, does not mater) 6) gym (e.g. god genes for muscle building) 7) .... everything else contributes up to 10% source: trust me bro 😁 and my personal experiences with dealing with people on this planet

If, when you were a kid, you created an understanding of love that involved a parent who mostly didn't appreciate you, then maybe you seek out that same dynamic as an adult.

I think Dean was talking about NFTs in the Tik Tok section. Also, this was amazing, thank you both.

Yes nice men finish last, we end up going to escorts and brothels. Screw getting married and having kids. I will never show women sympathy or empathy ever again, like Coach Greg say. No Marriage, No Kids, No Commitment, No Cohabitation. I’ll fool around and have fun. That’s it.

Interesting dialogue. That unattractive trait stems from the idea of “Reject first before you get rejected.” It’s a defense mechanism for insecurity and more often than not, self-perceived rejection (which is where Mark’s “The Subtle Art of Not Giving a Fuck” should come in handy). And yes, a woman being angry is good because indifference means she has given up on the relationship. The opposite of love (uphold dignity) is not hate, but to use another (objectify). Ultimately, having self-awareness (of subconscious intention), self-honesty and being genuine/authentic is key. -Florence Chuah

I became widowed 11 years ago. Because I married a man that was 15 years my senior I became a widow at 46. I had a really nice 15 year marriage. I’m thankful that I got to experience a real authentic marriage, lover and friend. Some people go through their entire life and never find that. Before my husband passed away, he had been sick for 19 months so we had a lot of time to discuss many things thank God. He told me he didn’t want me to be alone and mope around for too long. He told me I had a lot of life left and encouraged me to go out and live it. I was stunned and shocked at what had happened in the dating arena while I was enjoying my marital life. The lack of integrity, honesty, and communication just blew my mind. Many friends, including family members encouraged me to try Internet dating. Well, that became more stressful than it was worth. I was very troubled by the people I was meeting. I have to say the majority of men that I met were divorced and very bitter as well. Some of these men had been divorced for two years five years and up to seven years and were so riddled by bitterness. After dealing with my husband‘s catastrophic illness, which lasted almost 20 months and then of course grieving his death. I just didn’t have the patience for this. I tried to talk to a few of them suggesting that maybe they go talk to a professional. Divorce is also a loss and you need to grieve that loss and get through it. I found a lot of these men were just on the hunt to fill the void and not really deal with the grief of marriage that crumbled. I was interested in some healthy companionship. Someone to go on a hike or a walk with. Someone to share a meal with. I don’t need any man’s money. I’m not interested in his real estate or his investments. I’m not interested in any of that. The only thing that I was looking for and could not find which sounds very depressing, but it is the absolute truth. I was looking for someone who would do what they say and say what they really truly mean. That’s all I was looking for. When Mark mentions putting on a clean shirt lol I have to honestly say a lot of the complaints from other women that were also on these dating platforms was the lack of hygiene with the men that were in the age group of 45 to 60. I don’t like to judge a book by its cover, but the exterior appearance of some of these men that I met left a little to be desired. This was a great topic . Thank you!

This explains a lot , I thought. Was simply 🦇💩 crazy, now I know.

The Christine comment had me lol. Interesting discussion of the literature on this topic Dr. B