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@tombruce6398
@tombruce6398 2 ай бұрын
Had exactly the same problem with mine and the same solution thanks for the vid
@EstherArmistead
@EstherArmistead 4 ай бұрын
Where do you get your bearings?
@mikethejoatmon8287
@mikethejoatmon8287 4 ай бұрын
If it's just the bearing and not the whole assembly you want, Amazon is a good place to start. If it's the whole bearing/stud assembly, I will have to go back and look. Just let me know. Thanks for watching!!!
@EstherArmistead
@EstherArmistead 4 ай бұрын
Thank you so much!!
@JGPT1681
@JGPT1681 10 ай бұрын
Thank you sir!
@josephneville5572
@josephneville5572 10 ай бұрын
That pipe and flat stock was a pretty clever trick. WELL DONE!!!!
@ronaldschatte1383
@ronaldschatte1383 Жыл бұрын
Same sort of issues I’ve found with my auction bought John Deer 640 rake. Took all tine bars off and the “knuckles” off the ends, only 4 of the 10 had good seals on the bearings, all were in great need of grease and of course I had the twin (sans rust) bearing to yours shown in one. Before I found your video with all the great knowledge I was going to make it work with a dust cover that really reduced the slop…well, with good grease packed in too, but now I will just replace the bearing thanks to you friend! I bought a scrap 640 as well, so I will see if I can Frankenstein the two to be good for this fall season and work on the other parts over the winter, May come out being able to sell the excess parts and make the money back!
@mikethejoatmon8287
@mikethejoatmon8287 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comment. Glad you found the videos useful!!
@adamelliott2302
@adamelliott2302 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for making these videos. I've recently undertaken working on my Aunt's 256 hay rake. I started with the gearbox. Bearings and seals and ujoints for the drive shaft. One of the bolts that holds the fork to the clutch lever backed itself off sometime in the past. The old rake had done a decent bit of work with that bolt rolling around inside. Needless to say the gear set was pretty hammered...... even had what may have been the nut smooshed in-between the teeth of the ring gear. It's looking like bar bearings to be done soon.
@kylejohnson4136
@kylejohnson4136 Жыл бұрын
So are the bearings not sealed? I'm changing the bearings on my 256 tine bars and had the same idea about the grease fittings...just curious if the grease will come through the bearings if they are sealed bearings. Thanks.
@mikethejoatmon8287
@mikethejoatmon8287 Жыл бұрын
Kyle, thanks for the question. The factory bearings are sealed on both sides. If you are going to add a grease fitting to the tine bar bearing housings, just pop out the bearing seal that would go into the bearing housing first. A small flat screw driver inserted between the seal and the bearings inner race works well for this. Leave the seal in the bearings that are going to be on the snap ring side. Thanks for watching and good luck with repairs.
@hartshomesteadaustralia3837
@hartshomesteadaustralia3837 Жыл бұрын
Your a life saver I just brought one of these from a friend and have to replace one of the tine bars tried every to line it up until I watched your video so I’m gonna give it a go tomorrow the tine bars have a flat head on the end of the thread so getting the bolts of is gong to be tricky but I give it a go
@mikethejoatmon8287
@mikethejoatmon8287 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching and the comments from down under! Hope the video helps, tine bars can be a pain sometimes. Let us know how you made out repairing your rake.
@hartshomesteadaustralia3837
@hartshomesteadaustralia3837 Жыл бұрын
@@mikethejoatmon8287 will do definitely a quick question when I undone the 5 bolts on the drive shaft side oil came out is that normal
@mikethejoatmon8287
@mikethejoatmon8287 Жыл бұрын
@@hartshomesteadaustralia3837 Shouldn't be any oil. Sounds like bottom seal on the gearbox is leaking oil, possibly from a bad bearing in the gearbox or just a bad seal. Check out my video on the gearbox repair for New Holland 256 rake. I show seal and bearing numbers you need to rebuild it. Good luck with your repair!
@alexandreletourneau9163
@alexandreletourneau9163 2 жыл бұрын
Ayo tankss! Without your video I won't have finished at 5 pm !🤝
@epicjag3365
@epicjag3365 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for putting this up here it was exactly what we needed for my dad to fix it and no blow himself up, thank!
@WeathermonTaxidermy
@WeathermonTaxidermy 2 жыл бұрын
Very helpful. My husband is replacing bearings and was having a difficult time with getting the tine bar back in.
@mikethejoatmon8287
@mikethejoatmon8287 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching and the comment. Glad the video was helpful.
@davidphilpott6606
@davidphilpott6606 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!! I was pulling my hair out, and there's not much of that.
@mikethejoatmon8287
@mikethejoatmon8287 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching and the comment! Glad the video helped. Don't want people pulling their hair out, may need it for the colder months.⛄ 😀
@tommalzacher4680
@tommalzacher4680 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you sir! Awesome video and very helpful
@shadyoakssawmill7754
@shadyoakssawmill7754 3 жыл бұрын
I have been working on my New Holland 258 Rake replacing tine bar bearings and just started to reinstall the bar and was having difficulty getting it lined up so instead of fighting it I watched this video and was able to reinstall the bar in a matter of minutes your video is a home run thanks for the knowledge I will pass this on.
@mikethejoatmon8287
@mikethejoatmon8287 3 жыл бұрын
Glad the video was helpful. Thanks for the comment!
@billybobs841
@billybobs841 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you verrry much bud your a smart man thank u agin
@johnnyellis8838
@johnnyellis8838 3 жыл бұрын
Show us how to take this gear box apart please
@stevecobb7844
@stevecobb7844 3 жыл бұрын
I like your video. Love your style. Thanks
@MegaMommatee
@MegaMommatee 3 жыл бұрын
How do you take the gear box off of the 256 rake?
@mikethejoatmon8287
@mikethejoatmon8287 3 жыл бұрын
Start by taking pin/bolt out of u-joint shaft on wheel drive shaft. Use rope/twine to secure upper and lower gearbox u-joint shafts together. Remove bolts from center of tine bar spider/star. Stripper bars should hold this end of the reel up. Hub behind spider/star remove center nut/bolt holding hub on gearbox shaft. Remove 4 bolts/nuts from gearbox housing that holds gearbox to rake frame. Gearbox should slide out of hub and out of the rakes frame. Have someone hold hub when removing gearbox from rake frame hub and gearbox shaft have key way. Safety First. Hope this helps.
@localcrew
@localcrew 3 жыл бұрын
I wish my girlfriend was this quiet!
@mikethejoatmon8287
@mikethejoatmon8287 3 жыл бұрын
Don't we all wish that!!!
@localcrew
@localcrew 3 жыл бұрын
Great info.
@localcrew
@localcrew 3 жыл бұрын
Great video. Can’t wait to get crackin on the one I need to fix.
@localcrew
@localcrew 3 жыл бұрын
Very helpful video for me cause my friend has one like this (258) and it needs lots of work. Good thing he got it cheap! I just subscribed!
@davidrobertson376
@davidrobertson376 3 жыл бұрын
Really helpful thank you. I have two rakes to repair and cant wait to have them in good condition again. Dave
@davidrobertson376
@davidrobertson376 3 жыл бұрын
I am glad I have watched this as I have 2 rakes to go through. very helpful information
@mikethejoatmon8287
@mikethejoatmon8287 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comment! Glad video is helpful. Check out my other videos on 256 rake repairs.
@thomasdunn9381
@thomasdunn9381 4 жыл бұрын
My 56 has been skipping under load thought it was the spring or the gears had chipped teeth. Your video was the only video I've seen that tore into the gearbox thanks will try all. Southern Michigan.
@MegaMommatee
@MegaMommatee 4 жыл бұрын
I have a new holland 256 rollabar. I can't get it to engage.do you have any idea what could be the problem?also where do you get parts for these old pieces of equipment?
@mikethejoatmon8287
@mikethejoatmon8287 4 жыл бұрын
Aaron, Easiest part first. Parts should be available from a New Holland dealer. Have ordered from joesmachineryllc.com out of Pennsylvania. (aftermarket parts. Has parts catalog available.) Amazon and ebay also. Engage question: Is cable loose enough in engage position? If you move the engage lever by hand do you feel resistance from the spring on inside of gearbox. Is input shaft from rake wheels to gearbox turning OK when pulling rake. (Could be drive dogs in rake wheels not working correctly). To check drive dogs: Disengage gearbox, turn drive shaft between wheels forwards, should hear a loud distinct click from each rake wheel. Start with these. Let me know! Mike
@jefflogical774
@jefflogical774 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks, this has been very helpful.
@chrisrose6541
@chrisrose6541 4 жыл бұрын
My granddad was having an issue getting the time bar back into place and I found the video and loosening the bolts as you suggested on all the tine bars worked perfectly! Thanks for the video.
@mikethejoatmon8287
@mikethejoatmon8287 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching and for the the comment, glad you found it useful. Thank you too for helping your Granddad!!!
@exoditegrayc
@exoditegrayc 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Good stuff, good simple explanation, Cheap!!! Perfect!
@danieljuarez-ln7sn
@danieljuarez-ln7sn 4 жыл бұрын
Just picked up a 256. I’ve been surfing y tube, trying to learn as much as possible about this rake.. thank you for this informative video..
@landontesar3070
@landontesar3070 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for showing this in detail, just bought a couple bearings for a bar that has slop, hope it's not a worn out bar or missing snap ring...
@landontesar3070
@landontesar3070 4 жыл бұрын
I did make a gasket with a manila folder once. Never thought I'd hear of it again. Thanks for the detail.
@landontesar3070
@landontesar3070 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. Always good to know what you're getting into, esp the use of the punch. I did not see replacing the bearing, I suppose it is straightforward.
@mikethejoatmon8287
@mikethejoatmon8287 4 жыл бұрын
Landon, thanks for watching and the comments. I did do a video on tine bar bearings: New Holland 256 Tine Bar Bearing Puller.
@travisfollowell3310
@travisfollowell3310 5 жыл бұрын
What tractor is the shift boot for that will fit this?
@mikethejoatmon8287
@mikethejoatmon8287 5 жыл бұрын
Travis, I didn't use a gear shift boot on tine bar bearing, there may be one that will work though. I used a 1.5" O.D. diameter rubber washer, hardware item. See my KZbin video titled: New Holland 256 Rake Other Repairs. Thanks for watching!
@travisfollowell3310
@travisfollowell3310 5 жыл бұрын
I was talking about the shift boot on the gearbox engagement lever, was wanting to put one on mine but curious what tractor it is for so I can order the right one. Thanks.
@mikethejoatmon8287
@mikethejoatmon8287 5 жыл бұрын
@@travisfollowell3310 Sorry about the misinformation, comments were posted under tine bar bearing puller video. I picked up an aftermarket gear shift boot at our local NAPA Auto Parts Store. Part number: S 43727 or Sparex part number S.43727. Fits several different Ford models. Massey Ferguson models 100 series, 200 series, and 300 series. Hope this helps.
@travisfollowell3310
@travisfollowell3310 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@mikethejoatmon8287
@mikethejoatmon8287 5 жыл бұрын
@@travisfollowell3310 No problem! I had to do a little cut to fit to match the contour of the gearbox.
@DuchesnesCorner
@DuchesnesCorner 5 жыл бұрын
The gear box on my New Holland #56 looks identical except its oil filled. Not sure if its originally greased filled or not, but I do wonder how the top bearing is suppose to stay lubed. I recently just went through this "new to me" rake and the box looked like it had not been touched in 20 years and the top bearing was in great shape. I guess the oil must splash up there enough.
@mikethejoatmon8287
@mikethejoatmon8287 5 жыл бұрын
D.C. ,did some research, found Operators Manual for 256, 258, and 260 New Holland Rakes on KZbin. Gear box capacity approximately 1 quart of SAE No. 140 gear oil. Check oil level by removing top left cover bolt under top bearing. Oil is fine as long as seals are holding. NH recommend several years ago to fill with No.2 grease instead of oil that's the reason I added grease fittings. I believe the gear boxes are the same as #56.
@MM54334
@MM54334 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Mike, just making some hay in Victoria, Australia.👍
@lorinjones9082
@lorinjones9082 5 жыл бұрын
I couldn't get everything loosened up like you did (without a torch), but enough of them to give it a little play. The best trick was using the long punch in the hex hole to pry it into place. Thanks for the videos.
@mikethejoatmon8287
@mikethejoatmon8287 5 жыл бұрын
Glad you found video helpful. Thanks for watching and the comments. I try to post useful information to KZbin and I use what others post too.
@bobbyboykin7137
@bobbyboykin7137 6 жыл бұрын
Looks good, I will hafta rebuild my 256 soon also. Nice mods you did, will do those also !
@mikethejoatmon8287
@mikethejoatmon8287 6 жыл бұрын
Jeffery & Joe thanks for positive comments! Jeffery check to see if the back of the gear on the shaft going to the reel is rubbing the gearbox housing, have had to use machine bushing(s) between gear and bearing too.
@jby151
@jby151 6 жыл бұрын
Good advise Mike. I went ahead and replaced everything on the output shaft as well including the woodruff key holding the hub. Then added a machine bushing behind the gear as well.
@jby151
@jby151 6 жыл бұрын
very good video. Mine stopped working under a load so replaced bottom bearing that had disintegrated. still stopping and skipping under load so went into the gearbox to inspect. No teeth missing, but I'll check the spacing on the ring gear now. thanks for a really informative video.
@1995jug
@1995jug 7 жыл бұрын
Very good I need to do all of that on mine.