The Ace pro seems very over processed. I think DJI looks better.
@MartinSlisans14 сағат бұрын
Kinda yes, but it's easy to fix in post production. DJI looks more cinematic for me.
@philk.350223 сағат бұрын
Great review. Thank you. Did you use any external lights in any footage?
@MartinSlisans22 сағат бұрын
Thank you. For shallow depths there's no really need for external light, especially during the sunny day. Shallow I mean down to some 15-18 meters. Deeper than that it's better to use light to get quality footage. In this video I used it only inside the cavern and to light up under the corals. The rest is without external light.
@schizerКүн бұрын
I need to replace my gopro7 soon 😂
@MartinSlisansКүн бұрын
😀 I have footage filmed with GoPro6 last year. Never edited it and can not push myself to do it😂 That's how bad it is comparing to new cameras🙂
@eprohodaКүн бұрын
Martin, Wow~ best ~
@MartinSlisansКүн бұрын
Thank you!
@AlexKTravelerКүн бұрын
Мартин как всегда хорошо, но хотелось бы сравнения одинакового кадра, face to face как говорится. Есть специальные крепления платформы позволяющие крепить одновременно две камеры одновременно ,соответственно так будет проще и нагляднее сравнить одинаковый кадр в одинаковых условиях просто разделив экран.
@MartinSlisansКүн бұрын
Привет. Спасибо. Такое крепление есть, просто было не с собой, плюс я почти никогда не ныряю один, за кем-то надо присматривать) Но согласен, надо будет снять таким образом, сделаю)
@tommydelonge892 күн бұрын
May I ask if you are using video light for all shorts or just underwater lights? If so how many lumens is it?
@MartinSlisans2 күн бұрын
Underwater light is a key for all dives deeper than 20 meters. Sometimes it’s a usual diving torch, other dives I use underwater video light. It’s 1800 lumens.
@pranaynalawade40442 күн бұрын
I love all your Mount Agung climb videos. I watched some of them before climbing from Besakih temple to the peak. I wanted to ask where the starting point for the East Peak trail is. I want to climb Mount Agung again but this time to the East peak.
@MartinSlisans2 күн бұрын
Hey. Thank for watching) East Peak trail starts from Kedampal, Datah, but actually trail goes up to certain point where there is a little temple at 2200 meters altitude. After that the only dense bush. Also hike starts from 600 meters altitude and it’s very steep and long, about 9 hours one way. Better to get guide for that, it’s easy to get lost there. Last time I met guys who goes that trail regular, can get their contact if you want.
@pranaynalawade40442 күн бұрын
@@MartinSlisans having their contact would be perfect, thank you so much! Would love to go with you some day hahaha
@MartinSlisansКүн бұрын
Tried to find it but looks like I didn't save it.
@SuperBluemoon33 күн бұрын
Great vid - ill not be diving 50 mtrs any time soon so my open water dives in the med should look great
@MartinSlisans3 күн бұрын
Thanks)
@andy.underwater.videos12 күн бұрын
The Log capture of the Osmo 4 is a winner, it will colour grade well. you can recover more colour from the deeper dives. In the shallows they all work fine. Osmo 4 in standard colour 10 bit is very good, I use it for B roll capture, i.e. diving into water, descending at start of dive, surfacing etc. It all depends if you want to colour grade it. If yes then the Osmo 4 is a clear choice. Once you get deeper with any action camera without lights, its never going to be good.
@MartinSlisans12 күн бұрын
Agree.
@TomSnyder-gx5ru14 күн бұрын
Wish there was more video of the actual reef instead of him talking about it!
@MartinSlisans14 күн бұрын
That year I was uploading every single day for 365 days in a row so time for single episode filming was limited)) But there is 364 other episodes with a loads of footage of Amed reefs) Enjoy.
@TatianaSukhanova-vy7cx15 күн бұрын
👍👍👍
@vegvan_ya15 күн бұрын
a lot of sweet memories
@MartinSlisans15 күн бұрын
Well said:) Same same.
@jamcamcam-webecruising232915 күн бұрын
Superb vlog Martin. Keep em coming !
@MartinSlisans15 күн бұрын
Thank you! Haven’t heard from you guys, all good?
@letsgobrandon-iq3bn24 күн бұрын
Note to self: for my next unboxing video, I’ll unbox the trash bin first.
@MartinSlisans24 күн бұрын
True))
@hagnbikeАй бұрын
I don't care for the image quality. they're all good enough. What I need it a remote control that can turn on/off multiple cameras and start/stop recording in sync. Plus if a wireless microphone can be used and will also turn on/off with the cameras and automatically pair with the camera when everything is turned on. But... none of this works. Like... not at all. There's no solution from any of the vendors and I hate it. Stop improving image quality and make them usable.
@MartinSlisansАй бұрын
Actually both DJI and Ace Pro has remote controls. Insta360 and DJI has watch like remote control. And DJI mic 2 can be connected to more than one camera same time. Works with any camera perfectly, just tested. store.dji.com/product/osmo-action-gps-bluetooth-remote-controller?vid=144561 store.insta360.com/product/gps-action-remote But they are not working underwater))
@hagnbikeАй бұрын
@@MartinSlisans At least the Insta360 remote controls cannot control more than one camera. It works for one pairing, but after turning the cameras off, the remote only turns the last connected one on. If the DJI remote control can start multiple cameras, I'l go an buy two action 5 (once out) with remote control and DJI mics... Does the DJI mic connect automatically after the camera is turned on? How fast?
@MartinSlisansАй бұрын
@@hagnbike Good point. Yes, you are right Insta360 pairing only with one camera at a time. How many cameras can be connected to one DJI remote I don't know. Mic was connecting immediately as long camera started recording when it was Action 4. I noticed that with iPhone is not that fast.
@johnmiskin4905Ай бұрын
Great review. I use the Osmo action 4 the colour is much more true to what you are actually looking when diving.
@MartinSlisansАй бұрын
Thank you. Yeah, it gives softer image and colours, agree. Just Ace Pro films against light better, while Action 4 footage is dark. Will make another video about it.
@gstrekАй бұрын
Good comparison video. I plan to use the DJI OA4 with the DJI dive case in an upcoming dive trip. If you could share your camera setting I would find that helpful. ISO range, shutter range, EV, white balance, FPS, aspect ratio, stability/RockSteady. Thank you for the video..
@MartinSlisansАй бұрын
Thank you for kind words) I actually recommend to film in normal (Dwarp not wide) mode. It's interesting do try out D-Log M but than it requiring editing and colour grading. If you are familiar with LUT's than D-Log is for you. Otherwise down to 25 meters cameras temperature sensor is doing great. I will upload soon a new video, where I was filming only in normal mode. Also I recommend to leave everything in auto mode, then there's more chance for successful footage. If there would be access to pro settings underwater, then yes, but since touchscreen doesn't work through diving case, then presetting can be dangerous simply because visibility and light changing dramatically.
@gstrekАй бұрын
@@MartinSlisans I have a number of presets for 30 and 60 fps with standard dewarp and wide FOV. Easy to access them. Color temp 5600º, normal color mode, ISO 100-800, shutter 1/200 - 1/8000, RockSteady. I am concerned about the ISO being too constrained but don't want too much noise. Color I can correct in post if needed. I will be in the Cayman Islands where the visibility and clarity is superb.
@MartinSlisansАй бұрын
@@gstrek With all that knowledge you have Action 4 will not disappoint you. Don’t think I can recommend anything simply because all depends on water conditions. I am sure that will be great footage! Enjoy the trip!
@otome3072Ай бұрын
man, am I glad I got the ace pro back in June. did u use pure mode on your ace pro in this video or the usual underwater setting?
@MartinSlisansАй бұрын
Normal mode.
@Paul_1927Ай бұрын
With the dji there seems to be some kind of grey veil over the footage - its not as clear as the ace pro
@MartinSlisansАй бұрын
Got the same feeling while filming at bigger depths, like at 50 meters plus. Edges were soft. Maybe the pressure effecting diving case. There's no problem at shallower depths. Planning to get proper housing for greater depths than will see.
@ihtius01Ай бұрын
I noticed that too. ACE images looked sharper. But I like DJI's colors better, they are warmer and more natural.
@Paul_1927Ай бұрын
Did you shoot in wide mode on the dji?
@MartinSlisansАй бұрын
I don't like wide, so all was recorded in standard.
@Paul_1927Ай бұрын
How is the footage of the ace pro so much clearer and more coulourful? Is the dji osmo action 4 footage while comparing with the ace pro colour graded or shot in Auto mode?
@MartinSlisansАй бұрын
Ace Pro footage is edited by built in AI so straight out of camera we get descent quality footage, but it's quite to edit it by yourself. While DJI footage first was filmed using D-Log M mode and of course I colour graded it, otherwise all footage is flat. Only octopus and another of last clips were filmed in normal/auto mode.
@JandonGamesАй бұрын
Great comparison video. I'm still waiting for Osmo Action 5 which will be released in August or September 2024.
@MartinSlisansАй бұрын
Thank you. Sounds exciting. Maybe also 8k, who knows.
@scubartistqnolsyАй бұрын
great review and comparison!
@MartinSlisansАй бұрын
☺️ Thank you!
@oAwwAoАй бұрын
Great video, and im getting a case soon. Wonder what type of screw mount you use to boltsnap the selfie stick?
@MartinSlisansАй бұрын
Thank you for commenting. I use standard one which comes together with diving case. On bottom I attached carabiner to attach to my diving harness. Using Insta360 invisible selfie stick.
@josevichАй бұрын
Thanks! Beautiful footage! I like Ace Pro footage better
@MartinSlisansАй бұрын
Thanks for commenting.
@OholisfliesandfishingАй бұрын
Your comparison is by far the best i have watched. I'm coming to Bali in august and i will try to introduce my 4year old kid to snorkeling for start...so i bought dji action4. Hope kiddo will love diving as much as i do.
@MartinSlisansАй бұрын
Thank you. Agree, it’s great when you can share same hobbies with your kids)
@drds9988Ай бұрын
Nice rebreather 😉
@MartinSlisansАй бұрын
The best)
@AlexKTravelerАй бұрын
Вау, Мартин ты сделал обзор экшен камер для сьемки под водой. Наконец то кто то уделил столько времени касаемо подводной сьемки именно для нее в основном я подбирал себе камеру совсем недавно и изучал.Для себя я сделал выбор в пользу DJI ACTION 4 при прочих равных, но решил подождать пока они не выпустят с дюймовым сенсором новую версию. У тебя картинка больше нравится с Insta360 ACE PRO хотя тут корекция цвета думаю поправит ситуацию но стабилизация лучше на DJI ACTION 4. В любом случае отличный обзор у тебя получился, так держать и спасибо за него.
@MartinSlisansАй бұрын
Спасибо. Думаю, я сделал ошибку в основном сравнивая хвалённый D-Log DJI c AI Ace pro. Надо было сделать Нормальный режим DJI по больше.
@AlexKTravelerАй бұрын
@@MartinSlisans Да,так было бы объективнее. И хотелось бы все таки что бы обзор был в 4к.
@vegvan_yaАй бұрын
great comparison, thanks! Thinking to buy some action cam as well. Was really interesting
@MartinSlisansАй бұрын
Thank you)
@ravikodipaka9938Ай бұрын
Amazing views and very well captured, by any chance you organise Mt.Agung Hike as a group.
@MartinSlisansАй бұрын
Hi. Thank you. No I am not doing that. I leave it for local guides. They are doing great hikes and offering great service with light meal and hot coffee included:)
@AlexKovtun-r6gАй бұрын
👍👍👍
@TatianaSukhanova-vy7cxАй бұрын
👍👍👍
@everythingunderwater08Ай бұрын
Woohoo finally the video is out 🙌 Amazing experience, and amazing view 😁 It looks so intense
@MartinSlisansАй бұрын
Wasn’t it intense?)))
@subasoulАй бұрын
Hello thanks for your video, do you like the scubapro Gorilla nova please ?
@MartinSlisansАй бұрын
Hi. Thank you! Gorilla fins are designed for flatter kick while I mostly dive using frog kick.But for holiday diver thinking this one is one of the progressive fins made. The fact that scubapro still produces and upgrades them says by itself.
@aldrawАй бұрын
Did you use the stock housing?
@MartinSlisansАй бұрын
Hi. Yes.
@scubartistqnolsy2 ай бұрын
is the ace pro purevideo mode good for deep waters or when you go inside tunnels compared to other brands?
@MartinSlisans2 ай бұрын
Purevideo is doing good as long there’s no light changes, then it’s glitching a lot. None camera can handle it in auto mode I guess, and purevideo is auto.
@scubartistqnolsy2 ай бұрын
charging cable only right? do you have any idea the max watts during charging?
@MartinSlisans2 ай бұрын
Yeah, there’s only cable in the camera box. They sent me also 3 battery charger. If charging while plugged straight in camera, full battery getting charged in some 20 mins, very fast compared to GoPro.
@scubartistqnolsy2 ай бұрын
nice! liking the videoclips of both x3 and ace pro.. if you could get your hands on an ace without the pro
@MartinSlisans2 ай бұрын
Guess it’s pretty same camera from processor perspective, just different lens and sensor, and that makes a big difference. For underwater especially. On the surface not that much.
@wylee72252 ай бұрын
Hi Martin, great video! I’m obsessed with ur torch light. May I know which model is it? Thanks in advance.😊
@MartinSlisans2 ай бұрын
Hi🙂 That was Lairas video light and it’s X-Adventurer.
@quentinmorille6832 ай бұрын
Hey. First, thanks for the video. Could you please tell me which light model you are using from X-Adventurer? How many lumen, since it seems very bright for a video diving light. Thanks in advance for your feedback.
@MartinSlisans2 ай бұрын
@@quentinmorille683Just checked on it and it’s M-8000 video light. I guess it’s 8000 lumen.
@JanHoevenaars-fk6cn2 ай бұрын
I made about 70 dives with the s tek and love them. Because i have heavy legs, they tend to sink when i hover. The s tek has 2 detachable weights on both fins so in the mediteranean sea i use no weight on the fins and in the red sea just 1. With no weight the fins float, 1 weight make them neutral and 2 makes en sink. So i think for me they are perfect. Shake the sand from your socks and remove the weights, then judge again .
@MartinSlisans2 ай бұрын
Thank you for the comment. Now it makes more sense for me why people choosing them. With or without weights on them it’s not an option for me, because they are narrow and not great for backwards moving compared with my another fins. For me it’s important since I do it a lot.
@jcazcunaga3 ай бұрын
Cool review... but guy in boxers on the back wasn't thrilled to be exposed like that 😅
@MartinSlisans3 ай бұрын
My bad))) I saw it only filmed it and had no chance to film again. I apologized to him and he forgave ))
@welwellwell713 ай бұрын
Your review was entertaining and interesting. Thanks
@MartinSlisans3 ай бұрын
Thank you 🙏
@mr_auuuuu3 ай бұрын
I wanted to know that pure video mode just have 4k 30fps. Is it enough for diving? I think if can be 60fps will be better :(
@MartinSlisans3 ай бұрын
As long you’re not slow down video in post editing, then it’s no problem.
@mr_auuuuu3 ай бұрын
@@MartinSlisans And do you think that it's need to add the red filter without light over 10m ?
@MartinSlisans3 ай бұрын
I either use light than red filter. Filters are made from plastic (I mean for action cameras) and ruins footage. Just mine opinion.
@drds99883 ай бұрын
Editing conservatism in water is a useful tool for when you need to get out of the water faster than originally planned (leaking drysuit, medical concern, equipment malfunction etc)
@MartinSlisans3 ай бұрын
Good point. Need to study this deeper. Will do another review “100 dives with it” later.
@vegvan_ya3 ай бұрын
Think to buy one in future as a spare unit for tech
@MartinSlisans3 ай бұрын
Yeah, for the primary one it’s too small. Did like 4 or 5 Tec dives so far. Gas switching is comfortable and it completes Deco almost same as my sheareater.
@dannykalin3 ай бұрын
mine is arriving today 🎉😂
@MartinSlisans3 ай бұрын
Great! Share your thoughts afterwards.
@siamosht3 ай бұрын
Thanks for the video. By the way now that Insta360 X4 is out, do you think you will get it and review it? Your review is real world.
@MartinSlisans3 ай бұрын
Thank you! Saw reviews of X4 and it looks great. Seems they have underwater case for it already. If I will have a chance will get it for sure, specially because I'm planning one cave diving trip/course, so good low light camera is must have. For caves 360 camera is a way batter than wide angle cause it's filming all around and maybe it's a motivation to get one of X4))
@siamosht3 ай бұрын
@@MartinSlisans yes they do have the housing for it. 8k will be very good to crop the 360 footage, however from what I have seen so far the low light performance doesn't match Ace Pro.
@MartinSlisans3 ай бұрын
I don't think it's even possible to get good low light on 360 cameras, especially inside housing. I wish but most probably will use Ace pro and 360 cameras together. Low light on the helmet and 360 somewhere on harness of my BCD.
@siamosht3 ай бұрын
@@MartinSlisans that is true, imagine there being a camera in a small package with all the capabilities.
@MartinSlisans3 ай бұрын
Think compact/ action cameras are the only option for me. Really would like to have some normal size with a big wide angle dome to get better videos, but cannot imagine combining it with my tec/rebreather equipment. So this type of cameras for now. Any innovations which makes my videos look better, makes me happy))
@TheEnglishRedneck453 ай бұрын
Really interesting to see this, thank you. Can you clarify something you said at 7:00 - that the RK3 feel like you're not wearing fins as they're too soft and useless after using the Eddie's? Given it sounded like the RK3 were previously your favourite fins, it's a big shift! Can you confirm?
@MartinSlisans3 ай бұрын
Thank you🙂 I mean the power Eddies gives is so much bigger than RK3 feels too soft when applying the same pressure to the blade it feels like you’re not moving. After some 5 mins I adapt to them and then all is good again. And this feeling I get every time I switch from Eddies to RK3. Don’t get me wrong RK3 is still one of my favorites, just this feeling. If you have the chance try, then it will be clear what I mean))
@TheEnglishRedneck453 ай бұрын
@@MartinSlisans I see, thank you for clarifying - have you tried the HD RK3? May be too negatively buoyant for your tastest though? And if I get the chance to try some Eddies I certainly will. The S-Tek were on my list to buy and try, but I'll remove them after your review and some thoughts from others too, primarily because of the issue of back kicking and the toe pressure.
@MartinSlisans3 ай бұрын
Yeah, I tried HD RK3's. Yes they are stiffer but not the same as Eddies. Plus the weight is bigger. And the feet pocket is big and too loose for me since they are made for drysuit boots.
@mattvish25913 ай бұрын
Thanks for this review, was considering them as a travel fin because they are light and the blades disattach, but I think I can skip them now... I hate sand in my socks 😅
@MartinSlisans3 ай бұрын
😄 I am sorry but that's how it felt for me.
@chrisrichardson48993 ай бұрын
My biases aside, I was interested to see the SP in action. Your back kick, it's pretty obvious why they aren't great, the angle of the blade is directing the water in a way that is working against you going backwards, only the part of the fin above where the blade breaks to the angle is doing anything, and that is not much surface area. The flutter stability (fin moves sideways when kicking and twists) also caught my attention, the vents are what is throwing it off I think. I would have designed some skegs atthe vents exit to impart stability basically to offset that if doing something along those lines. I think doing many dives using a flutter only that many divers will feel it in their ankles. That said, there is some neat features, and in some ways some solid design in play for them. As a cave instructor, and cave instructor trainer and evaluator I can say with absolute confidence that while back kicking is an essential skill for ALL cave divers, for cave instructors it's what we are doing for at least 50% of the dive if you are doing your job correctly and observing your students in a position to assist or intervene. I was actually a bit shocked at how good the Eddy's are at back kicking when I tried the first samples, and I designed them, so there is that. It exceeded my expectations.
@MartinSlisans3 ай бұрын
Just found a post where they say it's designed for diving professionals, but I don't think they will ever meet my needs. And I have Eddies:)