Overheads , a brilliant idea . Not used by the numpty town planners of course . Great film 👍🏴
@jys16020 күн бұрын
Thanks for sharing, very interesting.
@jeffkwells2003Ай бұрын
I was born in 1945 so memories of the overhead are still amazingly fresh. My family lived in Bootle and occasionally we would use the overhead to get from the Pier Head to Seaforth and then bus home. I have a vivid memory of a primary school trip when I was in the final year when I wss probably 10 years old. We were taken to Seaforth on a special bus, then took the overhead to Dingle. Till then, I had never seen the docks south of the Pier Head and, of course, they were full of ships. Then we returned to Seaforth by the next train. On the way back we got off at Gladstone Dock and were escorted around the dock to look at a battleship in the dry dock - the King George V, I think. Then we got back on the overhead to Seaforth. This is one of the most treasured memories of my childhood and I am eternally grateful to my school (Roberts Drive Primary) for arranging it, presumably because they knew the railway was about to close. These films are pure gold to me. As much for the shots of the docks and ships as for the trains. My grandparents were both stewards on the liners so ships and the docks are a huge part of my childhood and teenage memories. I left Liverpool in 1970 for London and didn’t see the waterfront again for about 4 years. On returning, I went up the new St John’s Precinct tower with my girlfriend. I looked open-mouthed at the view of river and said to her - “where have all the ships gone?” The Liverpool I most loved - the overhead railway, the docks, the ships, the city centre before it was vandalised by planners, ended for me that day. I know all Scousers are sentimental about Liverpool but the dividing line between the old Liverpool and the present one was the disappearance of the ships and everything that went with them. Many thanks for these films. Treasure.
@johnpowell13962 ай бұрын
I was about 12 and my dad used to cycle with me from the Dingle to the transporter bridge in Widnes and then we cycled to Birkenhead where we got the ferry back to Liverpool. we stopped at a few pubs on the way and whilst dad was in the pub, he brought lemonade out to me. It was a special Sunday treat for me.
@susanellis77803 ай бұрын
Crossing the river is scary❤😊
@TheProfessional994 ай бұрын
Wonderful video- thanks!! ❤
@Onthecouch-r5r5 ай бұрын
Watched the carnival every year i lived at the top of latham ave on Boston
@michaelcollins69767 ай бұрын
Ruined and turned into a right shithole over the last 60 years.
@garyoshea21718 ай бұрын
Lived there in the 70’s. Shit hole!
@kevintraynor450811 ай бұрын
All them farms destroyed for nothing. Why didn't they spend the money on the areas at Liverpool that needed a make over at the time instead of building a new town. Bet Runcorn was beutifull before the development. I sadly was not born then so only have these vids of what Runcorn used to be like.
@graemetaylor1765Ай бұрын
Yes my father was born in Runcorn in 1927! The rolling pastures and farms all cleared for thousands of scousers! Ruined!
@kevintraynor450811 ай бұрын
Did they ever find Hitler's body to prove he was dead
@kevintraynor450811 ай бұрын
The war was not a conflict
@daicymru552711 ай бұрын
Amazing history. I can just about remember these trains.
I've been fascinated by the Docker's Umbrella for some years now. What a shame it could be saved and new rolling stock put on. My mum used to take me to Liverpool in the 1950s, the last time I went was in 1958, but by then it was all over. I cannot for the life of me remember it although I probably did see it on the many visit we paid there beforehand.
@rorymacve2 жыл бұрын
Fantastic video of a unique part of British railway history! :D I was just wondering, would it be possible for me to use this footage as part of an upcoming documentary I'm creating about the history of the Liverpool Overhead Railway?
@steandjayne88Ай бұрын
Sorry for the late reply. Yes you can show it anywhere.
@rorymacveАй бұрын
@@steandjayne88 Thank you very kindly 🙂
@johnsharp86322 жыл бұрын
Brilliant video, thanks for posting. I visited the Liverpool Museum in the Albert Dock complex earlier this year and was able to see and enter the restored coach No 3. There is a nice feature, with photographs of the line, but this video really puts it into perspective.
@incy_wincy_spiders22512 жыл бұрын
Thats my grandad getting of the train at 12:01 😊 Edward Middleton
@servisquartz66762 жыл бұрын
I love watching this video with Martin Jenkins from various Online Videos. We can learn so much history from him
@daifunka70622 жыл бұрын
such a shame, overhead was demolished
@SpotlessLeopard2 жыл бұрын
Really enjoyed this. That strange happy yet melancholic feeling that nostalgia brings.
@kmag71222 жыл бұрын
This a shit hole now 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@johnnewby87202 жыл бұрын
The Sand Stone To Build Norton Priarea Come From Runcorn Hill Not Windmill Hill Get It Right
@FaceFcuk Жыл бұрын
Yes you are right , sandstone also got sent to America and put at the bottom of the statue of liberty..
@Robdutton912 жыл бұрын
38:00 where it all went wrong… the new town
@brianfretwell38862 жыл бұрын
Nice to see that now the Museum of Liverpool new building near the pier head has the restored car on a piece of simulated overhead line inside the museum and you can look up to it from the ground floor or look into it from the first floor.
@stephensmith44802 жыл бұрын
Excellent stuff. I remember going down into the garage that was shown in the old Dingle terminus in the 90s, I think it was called Rosco engineering if I recall. I grew up in Caryl gardens, which was opposite the old Royal Southern Hospital on Hill st. The old hand point levers that used to turn the M.D& H.C Trains, into the various docks were still in place up until the 1980s when they did a lot of work for the up and coming international garden festival. The least said about that the better, a total waste of the tax payers money.
@theheirophant71132 жыл бұрын
I'd swear it was David Thewlis doing the commentary.
@Mr_Higgs3 жыл бұрын
The government today is only interested in taxing people out their cars. There need to be proper solutions to traffic. I believe other transport methods such as the overhead railway and trams should be reintroduced.
@garybrereton75213 жыл бұрын
The only fire that the overhead railway suffered was in the same year it was closed.
@garybrereton75213 жыл бұрын
Arsonist my Arson…
@northernblue10933 жыл бұрын
Rare? It's on KZbin - anyone can see it.
@snakemansnakes13 жыл бұрын
excellent film Thanks for sharing. I lived in the Wavertree area of Liverpool when I was a youngster and my Grandfather often took me and my sister and brothers on the Overhead railway to Seaforth for the day. We used to picnic on the sand and watch the ships coming and going. We loved the old railway it was a great experience looking down on the old docks. I note that the film also shows, in the background, the ever present smog. Terrible stuff in the winter through the 50's. It was a combination of fog and smoke from all the coal fired chimney pots from houses and factories alike. It caused many deaths with it's poisonous fumes. They eventually banned coal for fires and introduced so called smokeless fuel known as coke. That word has a very different meaning today.
@Olizimm3 жыл бұрын
Bellissimo video. Very nice video.
@VaultPete3 жыл бұрын
Went a few times with my kids, when they young. Great place. Was a bit run down. Back then in the early 2000s.
@marvwatkins70293 жыл бұрын
What a near sided waste of a valuable asset. Many in Liverpool eventually no doubt regretted its lost. It's too bad that no audio film of the line exists. No doubt that the later Beatles rode the LOR at least once.
@neiloflongbeck57052 жыл бұрын
No one could raise the money to save it although many tried. But the docks railway locomotives were causing the iron structures to corrode and the rolling stock was in need of replacing. £2milliin was needed for the structures alone.
@bertspeggly44283 жыл бұрын
A great video, with excellent commentary. What a pity that in the 'fifties and 'sixties the British authorities enthusiastically carried on Hitler's work, wilfully destroying so many of Britain's classic buildings and railways.
@neiloflongbeck57052 жыл бұрын
The Town and Country Planning Act 1947 and the Ancient Monuments Protection Act 1882 prevented most of what you are talking about.
@Ass_Burgers_Syndrome3 жыл бұрын
Great stuff. I swear if I hadn't been told this was Liverpool, some of the shots could be mistaken for New York or Chicago. Very similar when you watch some of those films on KZbin
@brianfearn42463 жыл бұрын
Fabulous journey back in time and very informative
@Hanzo.Azmodan3 жыл бұрын
A great little pice of archive, thanks! So Liverpool had its "Docklands Light Railway" decades before London!
@geoffbarry95403 жыл бұрын
I suppose this video epitomises the passage of time and the conundrums it will increasingly present. Are the Online Videos still copyright? I've got some on VHS from the eighties and nineties. And what happens to monumental archival content such as this going forward? When these scenes were filmed I was still in primary school in south London...one of my VHs Online titles follows a year on the Bluebell Railway n the 1980s, when I was passing through 40. How do we keep this stuff as a record, and how do we make it freely available without incurring the wrath of those who created it and possibly still have a proprietorial interest in it?
@Spookieham3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this - I had no idea this system ever existed and I thought my UK railway history knowledge was pretty good up until now.
@ianjones41163 жыл бұрын
Brilliant informative entertaining.. Now they are downgrading Liverpool Heritage status. !!! Complete idiots in charge. Thanks for sharing and taking the time to upload. I didnt know it even existed. Thanks again. 👍😎
@robtyman42813 жыл бұрын
If this had been retained, it would probably have become a 'light railway' - similar to London's DLR. Shame about such a lack of foresight. It would be a very useful asset to Liverpool today. As would the surface level Central station, if it hadn't been demolished.
@colinmumford2673 жыл бұрын
Just shows the short sightedness from all councils that is still here to this day , what a tourist attraction this would be , and perfect for Everton's new ground
@GJChurchward3 жыл бұрын
I don't think it was shortsightedness. The amount of money necessary to renew the structure, in danger of collapse, was out of the question. There wasn't a lot of cash lying round spare in 1956.
@colinmumford2673 жыл бұрын
@@GJChurchward u have to be kidding no shortsighted ,if they didn't leave it to get in that state and thought of the future , plus there was a lot of new building work still goin on from the end of the war they had more money then then they do now for re build and up grades the railways were swimming in it typical local council just like now not giving a crap
@Merseywail3 жыл бұрын
@@colinmumford267 the overhead was a private company barely able to cover its working expenses. It had nothing to do with the council or British railways. The share holders seeing the cost of repairs decided to cut their losses & close it
@colinmumford2673 жыл бұрын
@@Merseywail the council and city funding could of easy took it over at that time they took the far easier option like most do and say just rip it down ,am quite aware it was not funded by the council as it ran from Dingle though Liverpool waterfront vauxhall Bootle to seaforth , it was the first electric overhead railway 2nd oldest first to use signaling and first escalators , it's was absolutely the wrong thing to do it's as simple as that , would of easy payed for its self would of been a fantastic tourist attraction and perfect for computing today
@brianfretwell38862 жыл бұрын
The war must have started the lack of maintenance and post war the money was very hard to get. It's more that it didn't get nationalised as with the main railway companies that also had been run into the ground 1939-45.
@nathanwalker63603 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for this documentary. I found it very informative!!
@DunnyRail3 жыл бұрын
The bit at Aintree was very interesting if the Austerty was on a Race Day Special it was indeed one of the few recorded instances of these on Passenger Service. However 40681 was a Simple not a Compound as stated, no outside cylinders being the best visible clue.
@MarkHenstridge3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely fascinating what a railway, it's a shame it did not survive. I am so grateful to those who filmed this railway in every detail for us to see 65 years later. Thanks for uploading this fantastic video.
@carlarthur44423 жыл бұрын
I remember traveling on that when I was a kid , my Dad took me on it he was going to pick his wages up , Great video.i later worked on the Railway as a Signalman at James Street P S B , and before that I covered every Signalbox on the Wirral and Merseyrail . I finished up at Sandhills P S B but was made redundant in 1995 .