If stocks where still the same i bet you could still get a day's fishing like suck those manky fish farms that boil ma blood and anger me to the core
@DarrenBaird-kw6lx14 күн бұрын
Why folk are saying notrth Wales its the outer hebrideian uist uarris etc
@DarrenBaird-kw6lx16 күн бұрын
Look at the sixe of the river awe about a mile n a half back in the forties some doctor who spent a goods morning's fishing catching a brace of fish hetween 40lb/50lb all gone now due to that pathetic hydro dam that has wasted which for its size could not he riveled sadly long gone but i can assure you can still get the odd big fish but put putting thoses toxic fish farms in there estuary no sooner the smolts are headded down there back up chocked full of sea lice all the price for a bit of fish they have a cheek to sell as salmon
@wewillnotforget3905Ай бұрын
Atlantic Salmon, hanging off the edge, in 2024. No wonder, due to all those dead fish on the bank, 20 years ago.
@frankdooley64517 ай бұрын
The problem is definitely at sea, here in Ireland during the Covid lockdowns it was reported nearly system had very good returns of fish and those in the locality who were permitted to fish had fantastic fishing. Now the boats are back out on the high seas the numbers have plummeted again, you don't need to be Einstein to see what's happening. No more excuses are needed but rather firm action against those responsible.
@frankdooley64517 ай бұрын
I hear most of the Norwegian rivers have closed due to lack of fish. Ireland has had a shocking fall in the numbers returning. Nobody in power cares about it because the Greens hold the whip hand here at the moment.
@thedoggedangler9 ай бұрын
A truly remarkable production that really highlights the amazing lifecycle and the increasing threats to our iconic Atlantic Salmon. As a passionate salmon angler and conservationist thank you for producing, enhancing and sharing this lovely informative film.
@johnbrown3951 Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this content i.e. the film and this segment. I lived and worked on The Isle of Lewis 20 years ago and had been allowed to chose to work there and had done so after watching Paul Young fish Voshmid all those years ago and thinking I will fish there someday. I became involved on the board of the SAA and really enjoyed my time fishing in that part of Scotland. I did fish Voshmid on a number of occasions with great success. I was given a copy of the DVD by another keen angler who arrived on the island around the same time as myself and was in the same line of work when I was leaving the island and I subsequently lent it to someone as an inspiration for a holiday and a keenness to start fishing and never got it back. I am so glad it is up on KZbin a permanent reminder of those times. Thanks guys.
@Allaboutsalmon Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much John, what a lovely message. I am a little embarrassed at my line of "I've got the knowledge and you've got the gear", which is why it was great we did these little talks all those years ago so we did not rewrite history! The Hebrides continues to punch above its weight and we're always making sure we try and keep on top of as many pressures as we can. Ocean survival has gone down since you were here which is distorting the true health of the juvenile populations. Thanks again and so glad you appreciate us putting it up for all to see a point in time.
@PiscatorUK-Fishing Жыл бұрын
A wonderful fish on the brink of extinction. There was one angler that said he only takes 2 or 3 salmon a year, he doesn’t think that will make much of a difference to the many that makes it up river to spawn. Sadly this is the attitude of many anglers not just salmon anglers. Thats thousands of adult salmon lost forever not to mention the potential millions of offspring. Salmon anglers blame everything else for their demise.
@Allaboutsalmon Жыл бұрын
I understand where you are coming from, but it isn't technically correct in assessed fisheries where there is harvestable surplus. Most fish are returned but regardless, provided juvenile uptake is consistent and throughout a system, there is a harvestable surplus? Sadly, we now only look at the low end of survival of the species in many rivers, whereas we should be looking at harvestable surplus as the benchmark. Classic shifting baseline syndrome unfortunately. Back when the film was made and that recorded in the late 1990's the spawning on that particular river was very very healthy and still is, so it, as an isolated case is accurate. The chap only fished for two weeks a year in the Hebrides, where stocks were healthy and still are. But I appreciate on other rivers you would not want to kill fish, in fact, if that bad no fishing should take place at all of course. Anglers are not the problem and all organisations agree with that assessment. Back in the day, for example, in England and Wales, let's say 1970's, over 100,000 salmon were caught and killed by nets each year on average. Now only 130 were killed last year. Angling, in Wales in 2022, only 1 salmon was killed (declared at least) by an angler. We should fight to improve our rivers and in the meantime, yes, reduce angling and killing any where stocks are perilously low.
@davidgray3321 Жыл бұрын
Great footage, I hope we will have fish in the future and not only ,memories.
@Allaboutsalmon Жыл бұрын
Ultimately the salmon will change their habitat range if things continue to warm and we continue to pollute and misuse the rivers but the Hebrides is likely to be one of the last UK places for them seeing as we get a lot of rain and cooler summers. Ocean survival, as Bob said towards the end of this (20 years ago!) is the biggest issue now along with warming and drying upper catchments.
@davidgray3321 Жыл бұрын
@@Allaboutsalmon what a sad change there has been I fist saw a salmon caught in three 1979s, but there were many mistakes over cropping by Commercial and even by the rods was part of it. And many other things.
@newenglandoutdoorlore Жыл бұрын
Excellent program! The salmon's journey in the rivers then out to sea and back again and the fisherman who catch them.
@fishing4claimers0622 Жыл бұрын
very interesting..ty
@bv3bv334 Жыл бұрын
Not as exciting as Bass fishing.
@DavidDesrosiers-vt7buАй бұрын
Professor r u
@bigbang7897 Жыл бұрын
It's always the angler that takes the blame how about targeting the poachers and the high sea netting .
@simonpieman165310 ай бұрын
Clobbering coloured fish though 🤬
@martin7955 Жыл бұрын
Our salmon are destroyed in ireland farmers and greed did it
@Allaboutsalmon Жыл бұрын
where is this you speak of? And are we talking land farmers or sea? For sure, rivers like the Wye have been destroyed by agriculture... Thankfully, the fish farmers around the Hebrides have improved a fair bit of late and Grimersta, for example, had exceptional catches last year, near double their five year average, so things not so bad but there are areas now where rivers are not able to sustain a healthy stock.
@jackburke1977 Жыл бұрын
Love to take bit of time to see this part of the world. We hace land on the west coast of ireland, salmon sadly are a no show, life goal is to re introduce salmon. Need all the knowledge i can muster
@martin7955 Жыл бұрын
@@Allaboutsalmon land farmers yes come to eire and I'll show you
@davidgray3321 Жыл бұрын
That’s correct, the same applies in Scotland
@davids9549 Жыл бұрын
God I enjoyed this. My favourite fish in my favourite landscape. Too bad that salmon numbers in the region are now so reduced (and fishing for them so expensive!), so I now spend my hard-earned fishing for Pacific salmon in British Columbia, Canada, where the runs are still plentiful and the cost reasonable. Even so, last year I 'stalked' Scotland's River Oykel, and a patient wait by what I suspected to be a good lie was rewarded by the sight of a large salmon leaping vertically from the river, my first ever view of a wild Atlantic salmon in British waters - simply awesome! Many many thanks for posting this Richard.
@Allaboutsalmon Жыл бұрын
Thanks and glad you enjoyed it. Number have improved in the last three seasons. Not quite sure why but some fisheries had their best catches for fifteen years. Oykel is beautiful. I often stop there and film salmon at the falls near Oykel Bridge Hotel. Would love to go to Canada one day 🙂
@bumptybump Жыл бұрын
Lovely film Richard that almost seems from a lifetime ago. How quickly this remarkable species has come to the very brink of collapse and while there may be plenty left in some rivers, others suffer extremely variable runs from year to year. As you say in your previous comments, it's not angling that has brought us to the current state of affairs but many other factors that affect marine survival. There are many potential issues and while one may be aquaculture, it is just one of many. The days when we could harvest fish after fish with virtually no impact on stocks are gone for now but as Paul Young states in your film, this situation could again change to favour salmon survival and in years to come, there would be nothing wrong with taking a sustainable harvest but at present we appear to be a long way from this on most Scottish rivers.
@Allaboutsalmon Жыл бұрын
It's almost exactly the same here and indeed, Grimersta catches are higher. There's no doubt it is human economic activity that is the driver of declines for all species. The one thing I would say is the returns of adults varies a lot more now than twenty years ago. It was more predictable back then. That's the ocean entirely in our case because land use is zero around the river we did most of the filming on.
@Allaboutsalmon Жыл бұрын
I also love how technology has made shots so much better now and some of the footage much easier to get! It was really tough back then. UW shots with a plastic bag over a camera! 🙂
@fraser5754 Жыл бұрын
And had she put that salmon back and not killed it?
@Allaboutsalmon Жыл бұрын
I am sure it tasted delicious. Makes no difference when you have healthy runs and a harvestable stock surplus. Remember, some systems are healthy, with ample juveniles to fill the entire catchment. Granted in dying rivers returning fish is wise. Indeed, leaving them alone completely is better! But given a good run and healthy adult returning numbers to fill spawning many times over, it is not an issue to kill fish to eat.
@fraser5754 Жыл бұрын
@@Allaboutsalmon my point precisely is that we do not have healthy runs and stock of Atlantic salmon at all, indeed far from it, almost every (it could be now every single one) river in scotland is class 3 now and that's a ban on having in your possession a dead sea trout, salmon or eel, any migratory species must be returned to the water, It's a sad state of affairs mostly caused by fish farms increasing disease and parasites on the wild stock but over fishing by coastal, estuary and poachers nets and indeed anglers bagging 6 or 7 a day in the good times have led us to this. So there for IF she had returned it???? How many would that fish have produced to help the extinction threatened Atlantic salmon? It's damned foolish attitudes toward salmon like your own that got us here, you don't even know they are under threat! Ignorance and if not that, arrogance of selfish humans always ruins everything we touch. An animal world without humans would last just fine, we've been here a tiny fraction of the time the animals have and we've ruined the place with attitudes like yours. In Scots dialect I urge you "awa n bile yer heed" and serve it up "wee tatties" to the animals as it's no use to the world as if is.
@Allaboutsalmon Жыл бұрын
@@fraser5754 I'm afraid you've got me all wrong. The fish was caught in 1998 or thereabouts and a harvestable surplus was perfectly fine. Indeed, on many rivers there is still a harvestable surplus. Anglers often get confused about the Atlantic salmon. Only interested in 3 months of a five year life cycle. The river in question has data for juveniles going back 30 years. The juvenile population is the same as in the 1990's. Returning adults have reduced, most notably due to the North Atlantic Multidecadal oscillation and the impact that has on sea surface temperatures, phytoplankton and subsequent zooplankton that salmon feed on. However, despite this, the salmon population is healthy. I agree human activity of any kind tends to harm all creatures, from micro bugs to elephants and whales. You're a fair way out on poaching. I know of 50 a night being taken around the Hebrides but fortunately the Police are now helping the local bailiffs and prosecutions are happening. There are no salmon farms near most rivers suffering. The Grimersta, on Lewis, with 5 fish farms in the estuary had a rod catch of over 600 last season, best for decades. The Wye with no fish farms had 450... One is small 12 rod fishery too. So agriculture is the big one in the UK but every system is unique and the fish that run them are relatively unique, having evolved to deal with the conditions there. Of course, we sometimes (not in the wild places like Lewis and Harris) impact on catchment riparian zones a lot and this reduces the juvenile habitat significantly. Fortunately, on the river in question, no change to land use has happened in a century and thus, the population is healthy. Some years returning adults are high % and some low but always the number of eggs laid has saturated the available habitat, which is good news. I agree, in other locations, not grade 1 should not kill fish and possibly not fish at all (gradings did not exist back when the fish in the film were killed for food). But without anglers, all rivers would be sewers, although, more recently other organisations have started to focus on pollution.
@fraser5754 Жыл бұрын
@@Allaboutsalmon Atlantic salmon were endangered then and ARE endangered now! What utter nonsense to deny that! Had fish been returned back then we'd be in a far far better position now. Take the two rivers annick and Irvine in ayrshire, both abundant salmon rivers even up to the 60's yet I've fished both since 1978 and seen a handful of salmon, caught none, caught maybe 4 sea trout yet managed to catch 60-100 brown trout per year and two rainbows the idiotic office bearers of the local clubs decided to pug in for competition days. Some rivers of Britain they're extinct, most in scotland are class 3 including aforementioned ayrshire rivers and a lot of west coast salmon that are left are skinny or disease ridden
@Allaboutsalmon Жыл бұрын
@@fraser5754 Totally agree especially about Ayrshire rivers. I helped get a prosecution for the pollution incident at Catrine weir last year. My wife's family live there. I fished the Ayr and it wasn't great but did see one or two fish in the holding pools. I think what I am trying to say is that resolution is important. Blanket approach to "salmon are endangered" isn't strictly correct. Each freshwater catchment has to be looked at in isolation as regards population health - not returning adult health but population health. There are 30 times more parr than adults at present in rivers and these can be in equal abundance to the halcyon days of the 70's on less polluted rivers. Basically, anywhere near human economic activity (most of Souther Scotland, England, Wales, France etc) is suffering in freshwater as well as the general lower survival at sea. But the far North and Hebrides are far from intensive pressures and by and large are doing fine for salmon. Clearly a lower abundance of returning adults and those fish are smaller (I was a ghillie out here for 11 years back in the 90's and early 2000's) but regardless, in rivers like the one most of this film was done on, there were ample adults to replace the juveniles. It's a grade 1 along with most of the larger Hebridean rivers. Some that are not are purely down to managers not submitting catch returns on time, so a grade 3 is automatically put on it. But I hear you for Ayrshire rivers, some of the big East Coast ones too. Again, abstraction, canalisation, dams, pollution, agricultural waste and chemicals all impacting on juvenile densities per sq m. Then the protection of many fish eating birds and such that wasn't there in the past. It all takes its toll. There is no way back for many rivers because successive governments put economic development ahead of nature. That is a great pity and something I fight to change and ensure impacts are minimal. Again, much easier in the sparsely populated Hebrides where salmon runs have been pretty good the last few years, especially 2020 and 2022.
@shaunpreston32122 жыл бұрын
The greatest fish off all! And iv been lucky enough too off caught a fair few! Great fighters!👍🏴☠️
@FamasFTW982 жыл бұрын
never knew u can catch salmon o fly in saltwater
@charlesleblanc66382 жыл бұрын
Exceptional video on the silver fish. Hard to believe with all the fisherman out there that not more commented ? I personally believe that they do feed in fresh water, having witnessed some convincing examples.
@jeromeveyret21842 жыл бұрын
Great video with incredible salmon sight fishing sessions, congrats
@Allaboutsalmon2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Jerome, it was difficult back then but technology is so much getter now for better shots. I am slowly collecting the best and will, one day do something special!
@davidpriestley44373 жыл бұрын
Beautiful work, well done indeed. Sad to see it now. 2 weeks fishing in September just gone and the decline continues.
@Allaboutsalmon3 жыл бұрын
Hi David, I wouldn't base too much on this year. Back in the 1990's I estimated a good run would be 700 fish and for sure 2020 had a run similar. Why, I do not k ow? For sure 2021 was an awful salmon run for many Hebridean fisheries, yet 2020 was superb. Covid related? The good news is, parr densities and populations are still as good as decades ago, so it is all to do with ocean feeding in the main. A bit of a worry but on good ocean feeding years the runs are great. kzbin.info/www/bejne/o5OQaGpsltljY9k Check the link to an upscaled version of the film now available.
@davidpriestley44373 жыл бұрын
@@Allaboutsalmon will do thanks, and thank you for the positive response. Tight lines for 2022.
@tanksaquatics85894 жыл бұрын
Amazing
@michaelhall79214 жыл бұрын
I have always admired fishers such as Chris Tarrant who I heard put every fish back he caught....... Frankly my Welsh Pal and myself would not bother to fish if we didn't get a meal out of that hard going in the Welsh rivers we fished. Even the locals used to tell me -you're wasting your time fishing for salmon here come up to Scotland with us......... we did just that but soon could catch fish that the locals said they nor anybody else could catch, legally but they did not know what they were doing. They were on the whole wormers whereas we were all rounders bait spin and fly fishers. Even when it went fly only we caught fish but the fly was presented at the same height as the bait but brought far too much uncalled for criticism. We used to watch some of them Spey cast with a lure that was way too small and best of all they expected running fish to rise through 8 feet of water that would knock you off your feet at 2'6" deep ! There are some folks who say it's cruel to catch fish and 'let them go. Those who still like to pay extortionate bills for a rod but not take any fish at all are welcome to it but my pal who is no longer with us said if you can't knock one on the head to eat forget it...... If you can't keep one then let em alone. \he also contested the catching of fish to put back and said why torture the things????? best not to bother them at all? I think he had a point. The rules may well change next year and we may be able to keep a couple of fish for our efforts bearing in mind that there have been good runs of fish this season on the North Welsh Rivers...... There has been growing criticism, year on year of anyone who dares to knock a fish on the head and the implication is that such fishers are no better than looters of any river. It implies that any angler who has a killer instinct and is a hunter is not welcome to fish. I have noticed that in any case Welsh and English in some Scottish quarters are actually stealing fish from those locals! That applies also to some Welsh fishers and especially the commercial ones who think the same about the English ! Those with a hunting instinct could be better at what they do than those who with a hand on the hip who trust to luck with the phrase -if he wants it he'll get it. If the rules still apply that all salmon to be returned in 2021 then I'll be letting them do what they do best and run the river without the slightest hindrance and with not the slightest desire to impede their travel. Although I hear that a few sea trout can be retained if they are a foot long or bigger. That bit of Sainsbury salmon I just ate has got me thinking..... The above is why I ask is it better to not fish for them at all, the same as the Herring ban in the North Sea in the 1980ties?
@Allaboutsalmon4 жыл бұрын
I think it is better to fish for them for cultural political reasons. Anglers are the ONLY people who put time, eff0rt, money into preserving the habitats. There'd be dams on every river, farmers would pollute and fish farms would be on every estuary if nobody was there as the eyes and ears. So ultimately, the few that die and the majority caught and released are unknowing martyrs to their cause a s a species. Banning angling in the Loire (for salmon) has lead to the entire river being damed, catfish put in and all other users getting their way. Now nobody knows they have any salmon and the few left will soon be gone most likely.
@michaelhall79214 жыл бұрын
Which river/s are they running to? Must be a miracle of nature because I'm told the east coast rivers where we used to fish have been a disaster in the last quite a number of years. North Wales is the same =all salmon must be returned to the water! Better still in my opinion is to bann all fishing until there is something running the rivers , to fish for!
@Allaboutsalmon4 жыл бұрын
Your suggestion wouldn't work re banning fishing. Anglers now kill around 5% of what they catch, which is estimated to be 10% of the run, so an impact of 0.5% on the adults left to spawn. There are more fish than rhetoric would have us believe but they are not often in shoals like this, so this makes it look like there are more then there are. You can't win. All rivers in the Hebrides have fish like this when the water is low and they cannot run into the loch systems.
@ysfcmbz7 жыл бұрын
it is great. thanks a lot my dear friend.
@Allaboutsalmon7 жыл бұрын
No problem, I have now tweaked the route and moved POI slightly and will re do next chance I get. Weather due to be poor for a week I think. Then will see if I've tweaked it better for shot composition... Was never intended to be seen and only my second day!
@JonWhiteCreatives9 жыл бұрын
Wow! Such an epic view of the Isle of Lewis. Fantastic!
@DeanRead9 жыл бұрын
Stunning footage Richard, a really spectacular film
@Allaboutsalmon9 жыл бұрын
+Dean Read Thank you Dean. My first attempt at a drone film. It helps having a back garden like that to practice in! Just wish the weather would allow more time flying. :-) Only one flight day been possible since October.
@CallumPUrquhart9 жыл бұрын
The footage you have taken is excellent but the way you have edited takes it to another level. I love this!
@Allaboutsalmon9 жыл бұрын
+CallumPUrquhart That's very kind of you Callum. Enjoying learning about making films!
@132prod69 жыл бұрын
Nice clip, i am a video student in Quebec and im doing a clip for a conservation society where we found atalantic salmons. Do you give me the permission to use this superb clip ? have a nice day.
@silverleapers12 жыл бұрын
cool. Tight lines!
@Allaboutsalmon12 жыл бұрын
Thanks George, I'll set you up to view the private salmon clips now.
@Allaboutsalmon12 жыл бұрын
I'm making a blue ray film on salmon (Atlantic) in Scotland and don't want to show too much until after then. I have only a few clips public and much more private for now for people involved to see, mostly the best stuff is hidden for now. Once we've finished our project for sure I'd be happy to make more available. In fact I have over 16 hours of HD spawning footage with fish in shot at all times etc. Great fun to do. Looking forward to fresh fish in the river and sea this summer!
@silverleapers12 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing. Might want to consider making this available to wholesalers of film (ie stock film companies) .
@Allaboutsalmon12 жыл бұрын
Not very horizontal but was hand holding the camera!
@davidjay250912 жыл бұрын
Wish I was there!
@Allaboutsalmon12 жыл бұрын
This film will be pretty much all about the fish. My previous one went down well but this, in HD and me able to film way more and no time pressure mean I'm capturing everything required. Have some top scientists including Verspoor advising so it should be interesting when done. Anything you'd like to see covered, let me know and I'll do my best to capture it on film if possible, but also just write about it from research. Thanks in advance if you can suggest things.
@Allaboutsalmon12 жыл бұрын
Hi Salmo, I don't want to be public as the filming is for a documentary I'm making so it'd be daft for it all to be online before release? There are 17 clips online now but I think 6 viewable. If you pm your email address associated with youtube I'll allow you to see the clips. I'm pretty up to date on the genetics (currently reading Erik Verspoor et al's book on genetics The Atlantic Salmon: Genetics, Conservation and Management - cost me £140!!) and am aware of the parr situation. Thanks
@SalmoSalar12 жыл бұрын
Hi Richard the precocious males (juvenile males that have not migrated to sea yet) partake in spawning to such an extent that a resulting 30% of progeny from a spawning event can be attributed to these males. This allows for increased genetic diversity. Surprisingly we followed the fate of such a cross (MSW feamle*precocious male) and had an adult male return to the Shannon River at 26lbs after 2 years at sea - one of the biggest ever! You could go Public in your Channel default settings.
@Allaboutsalmon12 жыл бұрын
BTW, have one male in private going ballistic when a non dominant cock nips in to spawn. Hilarious really. He courted hen for an hour, fought many others off, then at the point of spawning gets knocked aside and he bites everything that moves for several minutes. It's in the private vids collection at this point and will be in the film, no doubt.
@Allaboutsalmon12 жыл бұрын
I've just realised that the clips are not viewable to subscribers, unless you can let me know how the devil to do that. On options for private ~I chose followers as a category to allow. I have now put up 17 clips in HD and the private are better than the ones in public. If you PM me somehow I have managed to allow people with specific email addresses. Is there an easier way? Very awkward. Tanks re comments too, I won't bother with music just yet, it's only for real enthusiasts to see for now.
@SalmoSalar12 жыл бұрын
Richard that is superb, the aggression of the larger male will be interesting to film. If you can continue to film until spawning takes place you may capture the creation of that elusive Spring salmon strain. A sound track would add to viewing experience!
@Allaboutsalmon12 жыл бұрын
It is in the Hebrides of Scotland.
@Allaboutsalmon12 жыл бұрын
I'd rather not say where it is as don't want the fish to be disturbed too much. I am very very careful and never set foot on a redd.
@Allaboutsalmon12 жыл бұрын
Hi Primula, I was a guide for eleven years on this river so know it well. I used to try to film in the water myself, then tried a camera on a pole and now have harnessed a HD camera to a rock which I lift and move to near where the fish are. Then view from the bank, sitting very still and quietly. Very hit or miss and have had whole days of nothing. However, it is important I get very good footage for a Bluray film myself and a friend are making on Atlantic salmon. Follow to view private clips.
@primula4612 жыл бұрын
fantastic clip how do you get so close to fish is the camera under water ? what river is this and where ?
@Allaboutsalmon12 жыл бұрын
All my vids uploaded in HD so choose HD in the quality cog at the bottom of vids...