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@draxil42 21 күн бұрын

fascinating!

@merta0567 Ай бұрын

Bu masaüstü ortamı tam sürüme geldi mi

@beryesa Ай бұрын

Videoda henüz alpha sürümü çıkmamıştı, şimdi alpha ama tam sürüme daha çok var :P

@erayrafet5571 2 ай бұрын

Berk abim!

@beryesa 2 ай бұрын

@dkkogmaw1311 2 ай бұрын

what about performance are X and wayland the same or ? also last time I tryed wayland it was horrible with nvidia is it better now ?

@beryesa 2 ай бұрын

It should be better with the release of Nvidia 555 and more fixes coming in 560, coupled with the explicit sync support in Gnome 46.1 and Plasma 6.1 :)

@erik_james 6 ай бұрын

As a very conservative and offensive person I wanna say: That kinds of people pisses me off and I definitely wouldn't follow their desired pronounces and another sh$t they want me to follow. If I feel that's a dude I'm gonna call him a dude. BUT: Despite of that woke political BS, in the end of the day this person made a huge contribution to the linux community and I'm not gonna ignore this fact. So I wanna say: "Thank you very much, Victoria. Thank for your work and for spreading this valuable information to us so we can get a more clear understanding about wayland. The world definitely needs more people like you to push Linux forward. I hope you'll meet less amount of people like me in your life."

@hasanpasha01 6 ай бұрын

Why is the dude have a female name!

@softwarelivre2389 2 ай бұрын

This is really irrelevant. We should care if the presentation is good or not. Not waste our time with pointless out-of-topic discussions.

@paulojose7568 6 ай бұрын

Good talk

@julesoscar8921 6 ай бұрын

This was so interesting thank you. And please, talk 3 hours about this, i will listening

@MrChelovek68 7 ай бұрын

Wayland it's a crap in current point.

@beryesa 7 ай бұрын

Would you rather maintain Xorg then? Well, you're free to step up :)

@MrChelovek68 7 ай бұрын

@@beryesa It's so great to talk nonsense. If I need to, yes, I will support X. But, it doesn't even occur to your super-intelligent head that the 10-year protocol is not only raw, it's full of bugs? Why not clone the Surface Flinger from Android in such a case and modify it to the desired requirements? It was a well-developed technology, but for some reason it was necessary to try to crutch "our own". And now the bottom line is that just like with a single browser, a single browser can write it, but it will take a lot of time. As a result, this garbage is done by KDE, GNOME and others, who could not figure out how to display data on the screen. which is very funny. Oh yes, there was only one XORG, the rest was written on top and it was perfect in terms of structure. It didn't require anything, everything that needed to be implemented was implemented on top of the server. and here, in order to make a window manager, everyone is now obliged to write their own window server. I can't imagine a greater stupidity. And yes, the X11 is outdated and needs to be redesigned. But Wayland is never a replacement because-crooked ugliness

@MrChelovek68 7 ай бұрын

@@beryesa where is my comments?

@beryesa 7 ай бұрын

@@MrChelovek68wdym

@MrChelovek68 7 ай бұрын

@@beryesa I left another comment about the fragmentation and idiocy of the "all in one place" architecture of Wayland implementations. and one detail that complicates the development of your own server-based environments.

@izairdgh 7 ай бұрын

I'm hopeful for a bright future with wayland amazing presentation Victoria

@happygofishing 8 ай бұрын

Systemd 💀

@МаксимСоколов-д4я 8 ай бұрын

Short answer: No, you shouldn't. Yet another broken, bloated replacement for something that has been working pretty well before.

@PeakKissShot 8 ай бұрын

probonopd alt account lookin ahh

@beryesa 7 ай бұрын

“Working pretty well” - Definitely not for X developers themselves :)

@CristianMolina 7 ай бұрын

Before... Long before. Using X since late 90s,when my old Trident 8900 ISA card started being supported. X was good enough but never was great.

@MrChelovek68 7 ай бұрын

@@beryesa You know what's the funniest part? For some reason, people who work with a language that is foreign to the platform coped with hardware acceleration of rendering. And everything works perfectly. Yes, yes, C#. But the cool developers working with native C/C++ couldn't cope. How is it so funny?

@MrChelovek68 7 ай бұрын

This is the most sensible comment so far

@bravefastrabbit770 8 ай бұрын

Great presentation Victor!

@kylehennkens9578 7 ай бұрын

@Archbtw_ 7 ай бұрын

@@kylehennkens9578 bravefastrabbit770 is just being an asshole for no reason.

@merthyr1831 8 ай бұрын

Great talk Victoria! Mad respect to you and the Sys76 folks for the work you're taking on with COSMIC DE and everything else Wayland. Honestly, looking at the way you've described the Wayland approach to protocols has helped me to properly understand Wayland has chosen to approach this system instead of simply rewriting X11 using similar principles. Thanks!

@beryesa 9 ай бұрын

Why does KZbin butcher remixes 😑 Check out our projects @Sayafe

@SlinkyD 11 ай бұрын

3:50 Boy did y'all miss. Somebody might fix X before Wayland roll out default features.

@DavidLange1492 9 ай бұрын

I doubt X can be fixed, unless you mean "fixed" like the mob does.

@SlinkyD 9 ай бұрын

@@DavidLange1492 No. Functional as expected fixed. Wayland a glorious blaze of something. Works for them tho.

@flarebear5346 9 ай бұрын

When did you last use wayland btw?@@SlinkyD

@SlinkyD 9 ай бұрын

@@flarebear5346 Right now.

@merthyr1831 8 ай бұрын

The reason X is dying in favour of Wayland because quite literally every single Xorg developer almost exclusively works on Wayland nowadays. I'd be surprised if X releases a new major version between now and 2030, which is when Xorg will be officially be EoL under RHEL's LTS releases.

@dengan699 11 ай бұрын

wayland is coming anytime now! lol EDIT: but yes, very interesting talk

@MrChelovek68 7 ай бұрын

not,it's not

@DavidLange1492 11 ай бұрын

We probably need a book with clear examples to help with Wayland development. I barely can do X coding, and have no idea about Wayland development. Is there a clear path to remove X completely yet?

@szaszm_ 11 ай бұрын

Until we get that, your best bet is probably to see how other compositors solve certain problems. It's all open source, and if you can write code, you can probably also read code.

@damianateiro 11 ай бұрын

@@szaszm_Although you are right, one cannot replace something as functional as x11, with its documentation and tools, and change it for something that does not have tools or documentation made by the same developers, and time is no excuse, they had more than 10 years to do it and they have the resources of Red Hat

@DanteMishima 9 ай бұрын

I still don't know what Wayland is

@beryesa 9 ай бұрын

@@DanteMishima You should check out kzbin.info/www/bejne/mYLSgniVfal6bsk

@MrChelovek68 7 ай бұрын

@@damianateiro ibm and other organizations. But I wonder where people come from who believe that some left-wing office, whose interest lies solely in money, will do something for some no-names?